Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app 0.12 and modulegraph 0.14 released

2017-02-22 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 2:39 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > Hi, > > I’ve just pushed py2app 0.12 and modulegraph 0.14 to PyPI. Both primarily > contain bugfixes. > > I had hoped to fix more issues in these releases, but that hasn’t worked out > and the fixed bugs are

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] apple-Python and TLS 1.0

2017-01-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Jan 12, 2017, at 6:10 AM, Jack Jansen wrote: > > Ok, so this is a real problem:-( > > Again, I’m not deep enough into the SSL stuff to really understand this (and > specifically whether it needs a new openssl module, a new libssl, both, > something else, ….), but I’d

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] apple-Python and TLS 1.0

2017-01-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Jan 10, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote: > > Hi Jack, > > No, I think you're spot on, this is a big problem. Actually, 2.7.9-2.7.12, > even the Python.org ones, are already somewhat broken because they use > Apple's ancient OpenSSL version. All the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app release delayed

2016-12-18 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Dec 18, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > Hi, > > I had hoped to release a new version of py2app today, but didn’t due to > problems with macholib that resulted in broken application bundles. The good > news is that I found the cause of that breakage

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-14 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Dec 14, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > > conda also has a non-framework build of Python -- not sure if that would > cause any issues with the wheels. I am not up on all the technical specifics, but this suggests to me that Conda would be generally

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Dec 13, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > > Personally, I have avoided all this mess the last couple years by using conda > (miniconda install). It does a nice job of keeping entirely separate from the > system ( or any other) python, and it can manage

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC 3.2 released

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Dec 6, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com> wrote: > > >> On 6 Dec 2016, at 19:19, Glyph Lefkowitz <gl...@twistedmatrix.com> wrote: >> >> >>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren <ronaldousso...@mac.com&g

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 06/10/2016 20:26, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Andrew Jaffe wrote: >>> On 17/09/2016 18:59, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >>>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 2:56 AM, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 17/09/2016 18:59, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >> >>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Ned Deily <n...@python.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-09-13 19:33, Glyph Lefkowitz

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Oct 12, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Andrew Jaffe wrote: > > Not me. If I understand correctly, Glyph -- who undoubtedly understand the > situation better than I do -- still thinks that there's no actual bug here, > since we shouldn't be using the framework build this way, but

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 01:52, Andrew Jaffe wrote: > > That would work, and in fact I don't really need PyObjC (sorry, Ronald!) but > I've got my whole setup working with the "global" python.org > framework build, so I am used to that... and the Sierra

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Pyobjc-dev] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Oct 11, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > BTW. Has anyone experience with using LLDB on Sierra? I’m currently running > Sierra in a VM and for some reason LLDB doesn’t appear to work, in an SSH > session I cannot start programs at all and on the console

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Ned Deily <n...@python.org> wrote: > > On 2016-09-13 19:33, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:a.h.ja...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >&g

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Andrew Jaffe <a.h.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 17/09/2016 18:59, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: >> >>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Ned Deily <n...@python.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 2016-09-13 19:33, Glyph Lefkowitz

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 13, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Andrew Jaffe wrote: > > But this is the framework (non-apple!) build!… "framework build" refers to the way that Python is built. Apple's python, Python.org's python, and Homebrew's python are all framework builds. So, to be clear: this is

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 13, 2016, at 12:05 PM, Jack Jansen wrote: > > I think > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packages > is a very old location for storing Python packages. Recently things have been > installed in /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] PyObjC and macOS 10.12 (Sierra)

2016-12-13 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
> On Sep 13, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Andrew Jaffe wrote: > > Aha! > > $ ls -lt /Library/Python/2.7/site-packages/ > total 0 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 157 31 Jul 02:36 Extras.pth* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 119 31 Jul 02:36 README > $ more