Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Except that AnyGui was never a good idea. A wrapper around a wrapper around a wrapper around a . just too much! While I agree with the assertion that a large part needs to be

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Chris Barker
Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Except that AnyGui was never a good idea. A wrapper around a wrapper around a wrapper around a . just too much! While I agree with the assertion that a large part needs to be written in a lower level language, I don't agre

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Chris Barker wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: 4. AnyGui seemed like a really good idea to me. Lots of good ideas never get the attention and effort they deserve. Except that AnyGui was never a good idea. A wrapper around a wrapper around a wrapper around a . just too mu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Chris Barker
Bob Ippolito wrote: 4. AnyGui seemed like a really good idea to me. Lots of good ideas never get the attention and effort they deserve. Except that AnyGui was never a good idea. A wrapper around a wrapper around a wrapper around a . just too much! As far as I can tell, there are two good i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 14, 2005, at 1:46 PM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: 3a Command R can wait for the third tier because I have a trick: I run a script "onchange.py python somefile.py" which runs somefile.py whenever I save the file. But a newbie wouldn't know how to create this script. Stakeout? For reference: ht

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-14 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> 3a Command R can wait for the third tier because I have a trick: I > run a script "onchange.py python somefile.py" which runs somefile.py > whenever I save the file. But a newbie wouldn't know how to create > this script. Stakeout? Best regards Wolfgang Keller _

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac Newbie IDE help...

2005-02-14 Thread Andrew Meit
On Feb 14, 2005, at 6:01 AM, Hartman wrote: So an environment (in the vernacular, not the Unix sense) is what the beginner needs -- an IDE from within which everything you need to do can be done, and not dangerously much else. But if the IDE is complete enough for this beginner to work in, isn't

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Jon Schull wrote: On Feb 13, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 13, 2005, at 17:53, Jon Schull wrote: So in prioritized order (numbers are prioritized; letter ordering is not) 1a. A peppy native aqua, crash-free text editor with optional syntax highlighti

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-13 Thread Jon Schull
On Feb 13, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 13, 2005, at 17:53, Jon Schull wrote: So in prioritized order (numbers are prioritized; letter ordering is not) 1a. A peppy native aqua, crash-free text editor with optional syntax highlighting There are plenty of these, including but not

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2005, at 17:53, Jon Schull wrote: |Let me conclude with a question: what *should* be in a newbie-friendly |> Python IDE? If you were writing one, what would you like to see in it? |>Well, that is a good point. I suppose everyone will have a differing |>opinion on that, particularly in

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-13 Thread Jon Schull
|Let me conclude with a question: what *should* be in a newbie-friendly |> Python IDE? If you were writing one, what would you like to see in it? |>Well, that is a good point. I suppose everyone will have a differing |>opinion on that, particularly in terms of goals. For me, I'd like to |>see a s

[Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Mac newbie

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Walzer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 |Let me conclude with a question: what *should* be in a newbie-friendly |> Python IDE? If you were writing one, what would you like to see in it? |>Well, that is a good point. I suppose everyone will have a differing |>opinion on that, particularly in t