[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T281202: Deprecation policy

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  Gotcha. I think we've concluded this ticket so closing. Feel free to reopen 
if you'd like to further discuss anything.

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T281202: Deprecation policy

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  The ticket is T283565 . But I 
propose to keep the old script and have renamed it. Is was created for the 
compat to core migration, is very simple, doesn’t use AST but works good enough.

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T281202: Deprecation policy

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  > But I am also fine with your proposal and it might be better to have one 
big change with 7.0 than douzands every month. I explicitly aggree with your 
points above.
  
  Great! Thanks Xqt. :)
  
  > But what about deprendencies? Does it need to increase the major release 
too?
  
  My understanding is that yes, it should. For example Stem (my Tor project) 
supported Python 2.6+ in its 1.x series and raised its requirement to Python 
3.6+  upon version 
2.0 because that was the oldest Python release that wasn't EOL.
  
  When we release Pywikibot 7.0.0 we should consider bumping any dependency 
versions that are particularly old or lack features we want (like the 
setuptools features you mentioned).
  
  > The earliest date for 7.0 is after 6.5. Probably 7.0 comes in September. I 
do not want to increase the major release every month. What would be a good 
frequent? Quarterly, yearly?
  
  Very much agreed. Major version bumps should be infrequent since they can 
necessitate code changes from our users. Yearly or every couple years seems 
like a good cadence to me but this is wholly up to you.
  
  > if we have major release changes less than quarterly, a DeprecationWarning 
is appropriate again
  
  As discussed above I don't think DeprecationWarnings are useful but if you'd 
like to resume using them for something then happy to discuss.
  
  > Can we increase the update_script.py script to show the problems?
  
  Oh interesting. I didn't know about update_script.py. Maybe we should file 
another ticket to expand update_script.py to include conversions for all our 
codebase's present deprecations?
  
  I'm not sure what you had in mind but this could certainly be a useful 
upgrade tool if we keep it up to date.

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T284299: Install setuptools >= 49.4.0 on Toolforge

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  As a workaround we could temporarily install newer setuptools 
into`/shared/pywikibot/setuptools`, like we do with `mwparserfromhell`. Not 
sure if it will work this way though.

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T284299: Install setuptools >= 49.4.0 on Toolforge

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  This can be temporarily solved by installing newer version of setuptools into 
`/shared/pywikibot/setuptools`, similarly we install `mwparserfromhell` here

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T284939: Toolforge bots stopped working

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Merged] T284299: Install setuptools >= 49.4.0 on Toolforge

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T284939: Toolforge bots stopped working

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T284939: Toolforge bots stopped working

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  Since beginning of June all Pywikibot scripts in Toolforge fail to run due to 
the following issue:
  
(setuptools 33.1.1 (/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages), 
Requirement.parse('setuptools!=50.0.0,<50.2.0,>=49.4.0; python_version < 
"3.6"'))

A package necessary for pywikibot is outdated.
Please update required module with:


pip install "setuptools!=50.0.0,<50.2.0,>=49.4.0"


You may continue on your own risk; type CTRL-C to stop.

CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "pwb.py", line 399, in 
if not main():
  File "pwb.py", line 394, in main
module)
  File "pwb.py", line 93, in run_python_file
check_pwb_versions(package)
  File "pwb.py", line 51, in check_pwb_versions
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AttributeError: 'Version' object has no attribute 'release'
CRITICAL: Exiting due to uncaught exception 
  
  **Expected behavior**
  Scripts should not throw critical error with this message. Also Toolforge 
Pywikibot installation is not installed using setuptools (it is cloned by git), 
so the message is pointless here.
  
  **Configuration**
  Toolforge, Python 3.5.3, Debian 9.13 Stretch (Linux 4.19), python3-setuptools 
33.1.1 

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T284930: Add support for shiwiki to Pywikibot

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T284930: Add support for shiwiki to Pywikibot

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T284930: Add support for shiwiki to Pywikibot

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  Change 698553 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):
  
  [pywikibot/core@master] Add support for dagwiki and shiwiki
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/698553

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T283823: Global options aren't documented in sphinx

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T283823: Global options aren't documented in sphinx

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  Change 699765 had a related patch set uploaded (by Xqt; author: Xqt):
  
  [pywikibot/core@master] [sphinx] Add global options to sphinx doc
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/699765

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T281202: Deprecation policy

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  In T281202#7130863 , 
@atagar wrote:
  
  > I amended our deprecation policy 

 in the following ways...
  >
  > 1. Copy the description of semantic versioning I wrote for Tor. We now 
explain what version numbers convey in terms of backward compatibility.
  > 2. Drop the description of DeprecationWarnings vs FutureWarnings.
  > 3. Drop the "Deprecations might be expedited when necessary" clause. If we 
break backward compatibility we should bump our major version number.
  > 4. State that prior to version 6.3.1 we did not use any particular 
versioning scheme since we haven't been following semantic versioning's policy 
for code removal.
  >
  > Xqt, would you mind taking a look? To be very clear if we adopt this policy 
we should do the following...
  >
  > 1. **All deprecated code will be removed upon Pywikibot 7.0.0.**
  > 2. **No deprecated code will be removed until then.** This includes code 
deprecated all the way back in 3.1.
  
  The curent rule was to increase the major version number if the Python code 
base wasn't supported (e.g. dropping 2.7) or a supported MediaWiki release has 
been dropped (see 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Compatibility). Incompatible 
code changes has to be announced first with FutureWarning. This is the same as 
Python deprecates some functions. But I am also fine with your proposal and it 
might be better to have one big change with 7.0 than douzands every month. I 
explicitly aggree with your points above.
  
  But what about deprendencies? Does it need to increase the major release too?
  
  With 6.4.0 setuptools 49.4.0 is required due to version parsing and added in 
the setup.py/requrements.txt which can be updated easily.
  With 6.4,0 also extract_templates_and_params_mwpfh and 
extract_templates_and_params_regex are removed. These both are functions which 
are dispatched and should never be used directly. I don't want to revert those 
changes in the current code.
  
  With 6.0 all deprecations are now FutureWarnings including argument 
deprecations of functions and methods.
  
  The earliest date for 7.0 is after 6.5. Probably 7.0 comes in September. I do 
not want to increase the major release every month. What would be a good 
frequent? Quarterly, yearly? In meantime we still need the FutureWarnings and 
if we have major release changes less than quarterly, a DeprecationWarning is 
appropriate again.
  
  Can we increase the update_script.py script to show the problems?

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T284414: imagetransfer.py: Add an option to ask to resume with next page when NoPageError happens

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T284414: imagetransfer.py: Add an option to ask to resume with next page when NoPageError happens

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  Change 699701 had a related patch set uploaded (by Xqt; author: Xqt):
  
  [pywikibot/core@master] [IMPR] Skip pages which does not exist on source site
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/699701

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T284886: pagegenerators_tests.TestTextIOPageGenerator tests are failing on Appveyor CI

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[Pywikipedia-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T284886: pagegenerators_tests.TestTextIOPageGenerator tests are failing on Appveyor CI

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