On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 02:12:03PM +0200, Klaus Jensen wrote:
> On Sep 24 03:20, Dmitry Fomichev wrote:
> > From: Niklas Cassel
> >
> > E.g., if the user sets CC.CSS to Admin Only, NVM namespaces should be
> > marked as inactive.
> >
>
> Hmm. I'm not convinced that this is correct. Can you reference the spec?
>
"If the user sets CC.CSS to Admin Only, NVM namespaces should be marked as
inactive."
After reading the spec several times, I agree that this statement is false,
although I really wish it wasn't :)
My interpretation was based on:
From CC.CSS:
"If bit 44 is set to ‘1’ in the Command Sets Supported (CSS) field, then the
value 111b indicates that only the Admin Command Set is supported and that no
I/O Command Set or I/O Command Set Specific Admin commands are supported."
The NVM Command Set is a Command Set, so I assumed that since the Command
Set was not supported, trying to do something like CNS 00h (Identify Namespace),
would return an zero-filled struct. (Since the namespace belongs to a
Command Set that is not supported.)
To me it seems silly that a namespace can be "active" at the same time
as the Command Set that the namespace belongs to is not enabled,
but that seems like how the spec is written...
Additionally in TP4056 section 5.19 it says:
"If an attempt is made to attach a namespace to a controller that supports the
corresponding I/O Command Set and the corresponding I/O Command Set is not
enabled by the I/O Command Set profile feature, then the command shall be
aborted with a status of I/O Command Set Not Enabled."
But if you already have a e.g. a Key Value namespace attached, and boot up with
e.g. CC.CSS = NVM, or CC.CSS = Admin, you will have a namespace belonging to a
disabled command set attached (and "active" :p).
But if you have no namespaces attached, boot up with CC.CSS = NVM or
CC.CSS = Admin, you will not be allowed to attach your Key Value namespace.
(5.19 says nothing about CC.CSS, but let's assume it isn't supposed to be
allowed.)
Will you be allowed to attach a ZNS namespace? (Since CC.CSS != ALL Selected,
I would assume that is is not supposed to be allowed.)
Now, will you be allowed to attach a NVM namespace when CC.CSS = Admin?
(I assume that the intention is that you should.)
CC.CSS can only be changed when the controller is disabled.
I assume that you can attach NVM namespaces even when CC.CSS = Admin.
(Attaching namespaces != NVM is probably not allowed when
CC.CSS != ALL Selected.)
Attaching namespaces are persistent. Even if you restart with CC.CSS = Admin,
they will still be attached, and active.
(Although you might not be able to do anything with them... see the next
section.)
You can not change to a profile (using Set Profile) that lacks a command set
that you are currently using. This change is while the controller is enabled,
so I guess it is ok that this check is stricter than CC.CSS.
Things would have been way simpler if the controller just deattached
non-supported namespaces internally at power on...
> My /interpretation/ (because the spec is vague on this point) is that
> with TP 4056, if the host writes 0x0 to CC.CSS, you will (should) just
> see Invalid Command Opcode for namespaces not supporting the NVM command
> set since we are operating in a backward compatible way.
If a controller is booted with CC.CSS = NVM Command Set:
We have an attached Key Value namespace. (It will be set as active.)
I think that we can agree that any IOCS Key Value specific command
will fail.
We have an attached Zoned Namespace. (It will be set as active.)
Sure, any IOCS Zoned Namespace Command specific command will fail.
Your interpretation is that it will allow NVM Commands, since a Zoned Namespace
implements the opcodes of the NVM Command Set.
Each Command Set has a table with the opcodes that it supports.
In e.g. Key Value Command Set, opcode 01h means "Store command"
but in NVM Command Set, opcode 01h means "Write command".
These commands are totally different, and uses completely different dwords.
So I don't think that it is obvious that CC.CSS = NVM, should allow
"NVM reserved opcodes" for certain Command Sets, but not in others.
Like so many other things in NVMe, this will probably be vendor specific.
For devices only supporting NVM + ZNS, it will probably support NVM
Command Set commands even when CC.CSS = NVM, but it's probably not
something that can be guarantee to be true for all devices supporting
a Command Set that extends the NVM Command Set.
Kind regards,
Niklas
