Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-11-18 Thread P J P
Hello Dan, Stefan, +-- On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote --+ | On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 04:19:42PM +, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: | > Dan and I tried out confidential issues and unfortunately it is | > currently too limited for our workflow. | > | > It is not possible to add

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-11-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 04:19:42PM +, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 02:46:12PM +, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 07:47:01PM +0530, P J P wrote: > > > > I have CCed everyone from the Security Process wiki page so they can > > participate in discussing

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-11-17 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 02:46:12PM +, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 07:47:01PM +0530, P J P wrote: > > I have CCed everyone from the Security Process wiki page so they can > participate in discussing changes to the process. > > > * So ie. we need to: > > > > 1.

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-11-17 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 07:47:01PM +0530, P J P wrote: I have CCed everyone from the Security Process wiki page so they can participate in discussing changes to the process. > * So ie. we need to: > > 1. Create/setup a regular non-encrypted 'qemu-security' list. > > 2. Invite

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-11-03 Thread P J P
+-- On Tue, 20 Oct 2020, P J P wrote --+ | +-- On Fri, 16 Oct 2020, P J P wrote --+ | | * So ie. we need to: | | | | 1. Create/setup a regular non-encrypted 'qemu-security' list. | | | | 2. Invite representatives from user/downstream communities to subscribe to | | it. | | | | 3.

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-20 Thread P J P
+-- On Fri, 16 Oct 2020, P J P wrote --+ | * So ie. we need to: | | 1. Create/setup a regular non-encrypted 'qemu-security' list. | | 2. Invite representatives from user/downstream communities to subscribe to | it. | | 3. Collect & store their PGP public keys. Also create a key for

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-16 Thread P J P
Hello Darren, all +-- On Thu, 1 Oct 2020, Darren Kenny wrote --+ | On Thursday, 2020-10-01 at 16:05:58 +0530, P J P wrote: | > - A list member triaging such issue, would have to select their individual | > keys for each reply. | | Maybe, honestly not had to deal with it personally.

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-01 Thread P J P
+-- On Thu, 1 Oct 2020, Darren Kenny wrote --+ | The storage of reproducers would indeed be good to have in something | like Gitlab - but that'd require someone to extract it and store it, but | under what naming would be another issue... But really that's behind the | scenes. Yes. | > Maybe

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-01 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
. monster snip.. > > Maybe we could start with a moderated list and improvise as we go forward? > > I really think that encryption of the details of a vulnerability is > important, if somehow it gets intercepted - which is not that difficult > with e-mail - then there is the potential for a

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-01 Thread Darren Kenny
On Thursday, 2020-10-01 at 16:05:58 +0530, P J P wrote: > Hello Darren, > > +-- On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, Darren Kenny wrote --+ > | While that is true, some aliases have managed to do something here by > having > | a single key for the alias, and behind the scenes that re-encrypts the > | e-mail

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-10-01 Thread P J P
Hello Darren, +-- On Wed, 30 Sep 2020, Darren Kenny wrote --+ | While that is true, some aliases have managed to do something here by having | a single key for the alias, and behind the scenes that re-encrypts the | e-mail for each member of that alias (trying to avoid the 'list' term a |

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-30 Thread Darren Kenny
Hi Prasad, Just my 2c as someone working on a downstream distro with Qemu... On Friday, 2020-09-18 at 12:32:23 +0530, P J P wrote: > Hello all, > > +-- On Wed, 16 Sep 2020, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote --+ > | I'm surprised the lack of encryption doesn't bother you. The security bug > | reporting

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-30 Thread P J P
+-- On Fri, 18 Sep 2020, P J P wrote --+ | +-- On Wed, 16 Sep 2020, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote --+ | | Do downstream maintainers want to know about potential security bug reports | | that have not been triaged yet? | | | | Maybe there should there be a pre-announce list for bugs that have been | |

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-18 Thread P J P
Hello Alex, +-- On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Alexander Bulekov wrote --+ | * I'm guessing this will be a closed list with some application/vetting |procedure for the participants? (Maybe this is what you mean by |"moderated" ?) Yes. | * Will secalert still be subscribed (for managing CVE

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-18 Thread P J P
Hello all, +-- On Wed, 16 Sep 2020, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote --+ | I'm surprised the lack of encryption doesn't bother you. The security bug | reporting process should be confidential to prevent disclosure of 0-days. * I think it'll work only if all issue reports are encrypted. Under current

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-16 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:25:45PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 16/09/2020 15.06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > Using a bug tracker has the notable advantage over direct email CC's > > that if the security triage team needs to pull in a domain specific > > expert, that newly added person can

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-16 Thread Thomas Huth
On 16/09/2020 15.06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 01:33:38PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 12:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: >>> I think it's worth investigating whether GitLab Issues can be configured >>> in a secure-enough way for security bug

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-16 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 01:33:38PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 12:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > > I think it's worth investigating whether GitLab Issues can be configured > > in a secure-enough way for security bug reporting. That way HTTPS is > > used and only GitLab

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-16 Thread Peter Maydell
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 12:10, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote: > I think it's worth investigating whether GitLab Issues can be configured > in a secure-enough way for security bug reporting. That way HTTPS is > used and only GitLab stores the confidential information (this isn't > end-to-end encryption but

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-16 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 04:18:47PM +0530, P J P wrote: > +-- On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Peter Maydell wrote --+ > | Way way back, the idea of a qemu-security list was proposed, and it was > | decided against because there wasn't a clear way that people could send > | encrypted mail to the security

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-15 Thread P J P
Hello, +-- On Fri, 11 Sep 2020, Peter Maydell wrote --+ | Way way back, the idea of a qemu-security list was proposed, and it was | decided against because there wasn't a clear way that people could send | encrypted mail to the security team if it was just a mailing list. So that's | why we

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-14 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:38:07AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > I don't think so, as I took care to encrypt a bug report and > received the reply unencrypted =) Not sure this is the default > although, as this was my unique experience following the security > process. Hopefully a

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-14 Thread Stefan Hajnoczi
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 04:51:49PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > It sounds like you > want it to be a larger grouping than that and maybe also > want to use it as a mechanism for informing downstream distros > etc about QEMU security issues, which is to say you're > proposing an overhaul and

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-14 Thread Peter Maydell
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 09:55, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Do we think the current QEMU security process is working well for the > community as a whole in terms of our downstream consumers learning about > security flaws in an appropriate timeframe and manner ? That sounds like a question we

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-14 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 04:51:49PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 15:22, P J P wrote: > > Proposal: (to address above limitations) > > = > > > > * We set up a new 'qemu-security' mailing list. > > > > * QEMU security issues are reported to this new list only. > > > >

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-14 Thread Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
On 9/11/20 5:51 PM, Peter Maydell wrote: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 15:22, P J P wrote: >> Proposal: (to address above limitations) >> = >> >> * We set up a new 'qemu-security' mailing list. >> >> * QEMU security issues are reported to this new list only. >> >> * Representatives from

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread Alexander Bulekov
And I forgot to mention that I think it is a great idea :) . Over the past couple months, I reported a few dozen bugs on launchpad. Even though many of them are memory-corruptions and might fall under the "security-bug" label, they could be fixed faster simply because the reports can reach the

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread Peter Maydell
On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 15:22, P J P wrote: > Proposal: (to address above limitations) > = > > * We set up a new 'qemu-security' mailing list. > > * QEMU security issues are reported to this new list only. > > * Representatives from various communities subscribe to this list. (List maybe >

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 07:50:24PM +0530, P J P wrote: > Hello all, > > Recently while conversing with DanPB this point came up > >-> https://www.qemu.org/contribute/security-process/ > > * Currently QEMU security team is a handful of individual contacts which > restricts community

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread Alexander Bulekov
Hi Prasad, A couple questions: * I'm guessing this will be a closed list with some application/vetting procedure for the participants? (Maybe this is what you mean by "moderated" ?) * How will the communication be encrypted? * Will secalert still be subscribed (for managing CVE ID

Re: About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread Li Qiang
P J P 于2020年9月11日周五 下午10:21写道: > >Hello all, > > Recently while conversing with DanPB this point came up > > -> https://www.qemu.org/contribute/security-process/ > > * Currently QEMU security team is a handful of individual contacts which >restricts community participation in dealing

About 'qemu-security' mailing list

2020-09-11 Thread P J P
Hello all, Recently while conversing with DanPB this point came up -> https://www.qemu.org/contribute/security-process/ * Currently QEMU security team is a handful of individual contacts which restricts community participation in dealing with these issues. * The Onus also lies with the