Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Tim Walker
John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 09:18, Joe Lee wrote: I appreciate the effort that some are making to develop a GUI for QEMU - There's a few project I see that trying to achieve this. But, I wish they all could come together and work together to develop a nice GUI. I w

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread John Morris
On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 09:18, Joe Lee wrote: > I appreciate the effort that some are making to develop a GUI for QEMU - > There's a few project I see that trying to achieve this. But, I wish > they all could come together and work together to develop a nice GUI. I > would like to see a sub-proje

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Rick Vernam
On Thursday 15 June 2006 23:31, Joe Lee wrote: > I glad to see many people sharing comments and making suggestions since > this thread topic started. I seems there enough interest to have a > GUI-Frontend for QEMU. I am hopeful this can lead to getting something > started. > > I'd like to see a pol

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Rick Vernam wrote: QEMU leaves me with very few 'itches to be scratched' ... The basic tasks that a QUI should confine itself to, IMO, are already pretty darn easy - define/manage a VM (via a shell script for me), start it, stop it, pause it...etc.. Even so, I've been thinking about this for

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Rick Vernam
QEMU leaves me with very few 'itches to be scratched' ... The basic tasks that a QUI should confine itself to, IMO, are already pretty darn easy - define/manage a VM (via a shell script for me), start it, stop it, pause it...etc.. Even so, I've been thinking about this for some time - months pr

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: VNC is a good idea... But isn't it a bit "laggy" for this purpose? I think people accept a laggy mouse cursor in a VNC window that comes over the network, but won't really accept that in virtual machine that's running directly on their desktop. OTOH, I'm no VNC expert :)

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 01:33:26AM +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > Daniel P. Berrange schrieb: > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:52:14PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > > With the new VNC server capability there is no need to embed the emulator's > > existing window. You can just have a GTK/QT widget which

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
Oliver Gerlich wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 VNC is a good idea... But isn't it a bit "laggy" for this purpose? I think people accept a laggy mouse cursor in a VNC window that comes over the network, but won't really accept that in virtual machine that's running directl

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:52:14PM -0500, John Morris wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:29, Oliver Gerlich wrote: If you are familiar with Tcl/Tk, maybe you could give some hints on how to embed the Qemu window into such an app? Embedding the emulator's

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Oliver Gerlich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Schindelin schrieb: > Hi, > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > > >>Johannes Schindelin schrieb: >> >>>On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: >>> >>> BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good GUI-Fro

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Oliver Gerlich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel P. Berrange schrieb: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:52:14PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > >>On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:29, Oliver Gerlich wrote: >> >> >>>If you are familiar with Tcl/Tk, maybe you could give some hints on how >>>to embed the Qemu win

Re: [Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 05:52:14PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:29, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > > > If you are familiar with Tcl/Tk, maybe you could give some hints on how > > to embed the Qemu window into such an app? > > Embedding the emulator's window might not be the best

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > Johannes Schindelin schrieb: > > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > > > >>BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good > >>GUI-Frontend for QEMU that would be comparable to VMware. How much man > >>hours would this like

[Qemu-devel] Doing a Tcl/Tk based frontend

2006-06-15 Thread John Morris
On Thu, 2006-06-15 at 17:29, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > If you are familiar with Tcl/Tk, maybe you could give some hints on how > to embed the Qemu window into such an app? Embedding the emulator's window might not be the best way to attack the problem. Especially since you would need to be able to

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Oliver Gerlich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Schindelin schrieb: > Hi, > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > > >>BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good >>GUI-Frontend for QEMU that would be comparable to VMware. How much man >>hours would this likely

[Qemu-devel] QEMU Build error on Sparc/Solaris 10 with 20060615 CVS

2006-06-15 Thread jonathan . kalbfeld
gmake -C mips-softmmu all gmake[1]: Entering directory `/home/jonathan/experimental/qemu-snapshot-2006-06-15_23/mips-softmmu' gcc -Wall -O2 -g -fno-strict-aliasing -mcpu=ultrasparc -m32 -ffixed-g2 -ffixed-g3 -fno-delayed-branch -fno-omit-frame-pointer -ffixed-i0 -fno-reorder-blocks -fno-optimize-s

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Johannes Schindelin wrote: Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: You're right! However, as Julian pointed out: it is less than fascinating to work on a GUI, _especially_ if it is for the masses who tend to criticize without contributing*Footnote 1*. I am not sure I agree if that t

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Johannes Schindelin wrote: Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good GUI-Frontend for QEMU that would be comparable to VMware. How much man hours would this likely take? I do not know VMware. Anybody? I would be intere

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > BTW, I am curious to know how much would it cost to develop a good > GUI-Frontend for QEMU that would be comparable to VMware. How much man > hours would this likely take? I do not know VMware. Anybody? I would be interested, too, to know how complica

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > > > > You're right! However, as Julian pointed out: it is less than fascinating to > > work on a GUI, _especially_ if it is for the masses who tend to criticize > > without contributing*Footnote 1*. > > I am not sure I agree if that thought. It really de

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Johannes Schindelin wrote: Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: Some of us appriciate the fact that qemu has no "GUI" per se. ;0) Your right! the keyword is "some" but not all. I think if QEMU is to be adopted by the masses it will need to come up with a quality GUI-Frontend.

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
WaxDragon wrote: On 6/15/06, Joe Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good point on that, BUT it's not just about the GUI. It's about an "easy" way to install the product and run a given app without the need to create/setup a VM - To me that is the benefit of the VMware player. However, not much of a

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
You're right! However, as Julian pointed out: it is less than fascinating to work on a GUI, _especially_ if it is for the masses who tend to criticize without contributing*Footnote 1*. I am not sure I agree if that thought. It really depends on the mission or goal of the project. In the case f

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread WaxDragon
On 6/15/06, Joe Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good point on that, BUT it's not just about the GUI. It's about an "easy" way to install the product and run a given app without the need to create/setup a VM - To me that is the benefit of the VMware player. However, not much of a big benefit IF QEM

Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Good point on that, BUT it's not just about the GUI. It's about an "easy" way to install the product and run a given app without the need to create/setup a VM - To me that is the benefit of the VMware player. However, not much of a big benefit IF QEMU is made easy to install and has a nice GUI

[Qemu-devel] Sparc64 fixes

2006-06-15 Thread Blue Swirl
Hi, This patchset contains the following fixes to Sparc64 target: gdbstub.c: added 'p' protocol support to bypass the broken 'g' protocol, fix off-by-one error in register numbering, allow 64-bit breakpoints hw/sun4u.c: fixed broken VGA, switch to Cirrus target-sparc/translate.c: mulx and udivx

[Qemu-devel] Re: VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
Julian Seward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 15 June 2006 14:18, WaxDragon wrote: >> On 6/15/06, kadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:10 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: >> > Real world, gui's are just so easy & desirable, especially if the gui is >> > consistent a

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Oliver Gerlich
Joe Lee wrote: Some of us appriciate the fact that qemu has no "GUI" per se. ;0) Your right! the keyword is "some" but not all. I think if QEMU is to be adopted by the masses it will need to come up with a quality GUI-Frontend. However the CLI can always be in place for those who want and p

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Joe Lee wrote: > > Some of us appriciate the fact that qemu has no "GUI" per se. ;0) > Your right! the keyword is "some" but not all. I think if QEMU is to be > adopted by the masses it will need to come up with a quality GUI-Frontend. You're right! However, as Julian

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Joe Lee
Some of us appriciate the fact that qemu has no "GUI" per se. ;0) Your right! the keyword is "some" but not all. I think if QEMU is to be adopted by the masses it will need to come up with a quality GUI-Frontend. However the CLI can always be in place for those who want and prefer to use it. O

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Johannes Schindelin
Hi, On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Julian Seward wrote: > On Thursday 15 June 2006 14:18, WaxDragon wrote: > > On 6/15/06, kadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:10 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > > > Real world, gui's are just so easy & desirable, especially if the gui is > > > con

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread Julian Seward
On Thursday 15 June 2006 14:18, WaxDragon wrote: > On 6/15/06, kadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:10 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > > Real world, gui's are just so easy & desirable, especially if the gui is > > consistent across os's, and part of the original distro. I t

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread WaxDragon
On 6/15/06, kadil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:10 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: Real world, gui's are just so easy & desirable, especially if the gui is consistent across os's, and part of the original distro. I think take-up would be huge (well huge-er, current takeup is h

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] -redir revisited

2006-06-15 Thread René Korthaus
Am 14.06.2006 um 21:53 schrieb Ed Swierk: On 6/5/06, René Korthaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I researched current qemu cvs and found out that the patch was integrated not complete but to 95%. There are two lines in slirp/ misc.c that need a change (patch attached). Tested to work with Mac OS

[Qemu-devel] Final path for windows close problem

2006-06-15 Thread ZIGLIO, Frediano, VF-IT
Updated patch against CVS HEAD bye Frediano Ziglio close.diff Description: close.diff ___ Qemu-devel mailing list Qemu-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel

RE: [Qemu-devel] Sparse file support under windows

2006-06-15 Thread ZIGLIO, Frediano, VF-IT
Attached updated patch (this time against CVS HEAD) bye Frediano Ziglio PS: Thanks for apply my patches > > At least the default should be sparse files if the filesystem > supports them. > > Fabrice. > > ZIGLIO, Frediano, VF-IT wrote: > > Good question. As you like... I can remove option i

Re: [Qemu-devel] [usb] display device identifier string for user with info usb

2006-06-15 Thread Lonnie Mendez
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:17 +0200, Fabrice Bellard wrote: > OK for this patch, but the following must be changed: > > 1) All instances of strcpy and strncpy must be replaced by pstrcpy. > > 2) product_name_size must be passed as parameter to usb_host_find_device(). lo. Attached is something

Re: [Qemu-devel] VMware Player

2006-06-15 Thread kadil
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 18:10 +0200, Oliver Gerlich wrote: > Btw. regarding your earlier question about a Qemu GUI similar to VMware: > AFAIK at least two people have posted GUI patches for Qemu (look in the > mailing list archive); so far there has been little response to that, > and I suppose t