Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 3:29 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jan 2023, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 9:57 PM BALATON Zoltan > wrote: > >>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > Mac OS X > #10.0 bus1

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 9:57 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: Mac OS X #10.0 bus1 mouse: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Reverts to adb mouse. No recognition as

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 9:57 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: Mac OS X #10.0 bus1 mouse: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Reverts to adb mouse. No recognition as HID device. #10.0 bus2 kbd: usb_ohci_stop

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 9:57 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > > Mac OS X > > #10.0 bus1 mouse: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Reverts to adb > > mouse. No recognition as HID device. > > #10.0 bus2 kbd: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Up to

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: Mac OS X #10.0 bus1 mouse: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Reverts to adb mouse. No recognition as HID device. #10.0 bus2 kbd: usb_ohci_stop pci-ohci: USB Suspended. Up to that point kbd pcap shows normal interrupt operation and recognition as

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Thu, 26 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: I tested all Mac OS/OSX available to me with mouse and kbd alternately connected to usb-bus1 or usb-bus2. ./qemu-system-ppc \ -M mac99,usb=off \ -L pc-bios \ -boot c \ -prom-env "auto-boot?=true" \ -display gtk -monitor stdio \ -drive

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-26 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:33 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:15 PM BALATON Zoltan > wrote: > >> I thought MacOS 8 needed old world ROM but looks like it can also load > it > >> from disk on new world machines. Then what

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread Warner Losh
> On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:59 PM, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > > Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is > confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added > explicit machine types. The default via=cuda option is not a valid > config (no real Mac has this

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: My 2 cents about naming: It seems less important how the machines are named when their name is not covering their definition. F.i. the powermac3,1 never had adb, could not be equipped with a G3 cpu, did not run at 900Mhz. True it never had ADB and

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:15 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: I thought MacOS 8 needed old world ROM but looks like it can also load it from disk on new world machines. Then what version of the ROM it has? It seems there was some change at ROM 5.2.1 then

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 3:15 PM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:49 AM BALATON Zoltan > wrote: > >> On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > >>> From a Mac OS guest perspective, via=cuda is needed for Mac OS 9.0.4 > due >

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:49 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: From a Mac OS guest perspective, via=cuda is needed for Mac OS 9.0.4 due to the 2 usb devices (mouse/kbd) issue. And for 10.0/10.1 (my guess would

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-24 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 2:49 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > > From a Mac OS guest perspective, via=cuda is needed for Mac OS 9.0.4 due > to > > the 2 usb devices (mouse/kbd) issue. And for 10.0/10.1 (my guess would be > > that these suffer the same usb

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-23 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: From a Mac OS guest perspective, via=cuda is needed for Mac OS 9.0.4 due to the 2 usb devices (mouse/kbd) issue. And for 10.0/10.1 (my guess would be that these suffer the same usb issue) The real powermac3,1 AGP has no adb. And do these OSes run on

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-23 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 22/01/2023 22:07, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 12/01/2023 23:51, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-23 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:06 PM Mark Cave-Ayland < mark.cave-ayl...@ilande.co.uk> wrote: > On 22/01/2023 22:07, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > >> On 12/01/2023 23:51, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > >>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > On

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-23 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 22/01/2023 22:07, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 12/01/2023 23:51, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 04/01/2023

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-22 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 12/01/2023 23:51, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-22 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 12/01/2023 23:51, BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via"

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-13 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:53 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: The names also show what we intend to emulate even though the emulation may not be complete or have bugs (this is also true for other machines in QEMU where a lot of them are not fully emulated,

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-12 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 12:53 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan > wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > >>> On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > >>> > Setting emulated

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-12 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Howard Spoelstra wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is confusing users so deprecate the "via"

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-12 Thread Howard Spoelstra
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:15 AM BALATON Zoltan wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > > On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: > > > >> Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is > >> confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added >

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-10 Thread BALATON Zoltan
On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added explicit machine types. The default via=cuda option is not a valid config

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-10 Thread Mark Cave-Ayland
On 04/01/2023 21:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added explicit machine types. The default via=cuda option is not a valid config (no real Mac has this combination of

Re: [PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-05 Thread Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
On 4/1/23 22:59, BALATON Zoltan wrote: Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added explicit machine types. The default via=cuda option is not a valid config (no real Mac has this combination of hardware) so

[PATCH v7 6/7] mac_newworld: Deprecate mac99 "via" option

2023-01-04 Thread BALATON Zoltan
Setting emulated machine type with a property called "via" is confusing users so deprecate the "via" option in favour of newly added explicit machine types. The default via=cuda option is not a valid config (no real Mac has this combination of hardware) so no machine type could be defined for that