Re: [Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-20 Thread Clemens Kolbitsch
On Thursday 20 September 2007 18:34:22 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> > On Thursday 20 September 2007 16:08:51 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > > Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> > > > Hi guys!
> > > > Short question: I'm having a speech at BlackHat Japan in Oktober
> > > > about something I made with qemu. Basically it is a new hardware type
> > > > (so it is just an additional file in the hw-subdirectory) --- it's
> > > > the wireless device I have been asking questions for a couple of
> > > > months ago in case someone remembers (there will be some code for you
> > > > guys soon ;-) ).
> > > >
> > > > For the conference CD, they want me to give them my code. Is it ok if
> > > > i just send them the whole qemu code I have here (I have only
> > > > modified the Makefile to include my hw/myfile.c) --- i just want to
> > > > make sure that the version is right and it compiles out of the box.
> > >
> > > As a general note, if you have modifications which are useful to a
> > > wider audience, consider to submit them as patches to this mailing
> > > list.
> > >
> > > > Is that OK with the GPL stuff?? I include all the READMEs that come
> > > > with QEMU svn, and I don't claim to be the author of QEMU or
> > > > anything. Just want to do it correctly ;-)
> > >
> > > Yes, that's fine. (You can check for yourself, the GPL isn't as
> > > incomprehensible as some other software licenses.)
> > >
> > > > Any advice, comments, etc.?
> > >
> > > Make sure to mark your version as a modified one, so people come to you
> > > when they have questions, and don't ask us about bugs/features we never
> > > heard of. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thiemo
> >
> > perfect -- thanks!
> >
> > once we get all the publication stuff behind us, you'll hear from us --
> > promised :-)
> >
> > to turn our code into a standard network card shouldn't be too much of
> > work and it's acually quite cool to have a wireless network inside qemu.
> > doesn't help much besides increasing the coolness factor, though ;-)
>
> I fairly sure some OpenWRT etc. guys will like to have it for tests.
> It reduces the likelihood of accidentially bricking their devices. :-)
>
>
> Thiemo

we actually developed it for fuzzing madwifi drivers. while doing so, we found 
out quite a lot about Atheros cards... so yes - driver developers will really 
enjoy it - however only, if they develop for atheros cards.





Re: [Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-20 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> On Thursday 20 September 2007 16:08:51 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> > Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> > > Hi guys!
> > > Short question: I'm having a speech at BlackHat Japan in Oktober about
> > > something I made with qemu. Basically it is a new hardware type (so it is
> > > just an additional file in the hw-subdirectory) --- it's the wireless
> > > device I have been asking questions for a couple of months ago in case
> > > someone remembers (there will be some code for you guys soon ;-) ).
> > >
> > > For the conference CD, they want me to give them my code. Is it ok if i
> > > just send them the whole qemu code I have here (I have only modified the
> > > Makefile to include my hw/myfile.c) --- i just want to make sure that the
> > > version is right and it compiles out of the box.
> >
> > As a general note, if you have modifications which are useful to a wider
> > audience, consider to submit them as patches to this mailing list.
> >
> > > Is that OK with the GPL stuff?? I include all the READMEs that come with
> > > QEMU svn, and I don't claim to be the author of QEMU or anything. Just
> > > want to do it correctly ;-)
> >
> > Yes, that's fine. (You can check for yourself, the GPL isn't as
> > incomprehensible as some other software licenses.)
> >
> > > Any advice, comments, etc.?
> >
> > Make sure to mark your version as a modified one, so people come to you
> > when they have questions, and don't ask us about bugs/features we never
> > heard of. :-)
> >
> >
> > Thiemo
> 
> 
> perfect -- thanks!
> 
> once we get all the publication stuff behind us, you'll hear from us -- 
> promised :-)
> 
> to turn our code into a standard network card shouldn't be too much of work 
> and it's acually quite cool to have a wireless network inside qemu. doesn't 
> help much besides increasing the coolness factor, though ;-)

I fairly sure some OpenWRT etc. guys will like to have it for tests.
It reduces the likelihood of accidentially bricking their devices. :-)


Thiemo




Re: [Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:

once we get all the publication stuff behind us, you'll hear from us -- 
promised :-)


to turn our code into a standard network card shouldn't be too much of work 
and it's acually quite cool to have a wireless network inside qemu. doesn't 
help much besides increasing the coolness factor, though ;-)


Actually, I can think of some very useful things to do with a virtual 
wireless car din qemu, so as wireless related application testing, 
wireless mesh network simulations etc etc...


This is beyond cool factor. It's useful.

Just my 2c,
Gilad


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Re: [Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-20 Thread Clemens Kolbitsch
On Thursday 20 September 2007 16:08:51 Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> > Hi guys!
> > Short question: I'm having a speech at BlackHat Japan in Oktober about
> > something I made with qemu. Basically it is a new hardware type (so it is
> > just an additional file in the hw-subdirectory) --- it's the wireless
> > device I have been asking questions for a couple of months ago in case
> > someone remembers (there will be some code for you guys soon ;-) ).
> >
> > For the conference CD, they want me to give them my code. Is it ok if i
> > just send them the whole qemu code I have here (I have only modified the
> > Makefile to include my hw/myfile.c) --- i just want to make sure that the
> > version is right and it compiles out of the box.
>
> As a general note, if you have modifications which are useful to a wider
> audience, consider to submit them as patches to this mailing list.
>
> > Is that OK with the GPL stuff?? I include all the READMEs that come with
> > QEMU svn, and I don't claim to be the author of QEMU or anything. Just
> > want to do it correctly ;-)
>
> Yes, that's fine. (You can check for yourself, the GPL isn't as
> incomprehensible as some other software licenses.)
>
> > Any advice, comments, etc.?
>
> Make sure to mark your version as a modified one, so people come to you
> when they have questions, and don't ask us about bugs/features we never
> heard of. :-)
>
>
> Thiemo


perfect -- thanks!

once we get all the publication stuff behind us, you'll hear from us -- 
promised :-)

to turn our code into a standard network card shouldn't be too much of work 
and it's acually quite cool to have a wireless network inside qemu. doesn't 
help much besides increasing the coolness factor, though ;-)

bye




Re: [Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-20 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Clemens Kolbitsch wrote:
> Hi guys!
> Short question: I'm having a speech at BlackHat Japan in Oktober about 
> something I made with qemu. Basically it is a new hardware type (so it is 
> just an additional file in the hw-subdirectory) --- it's the wireless device 
> I have been asking questions for a couple of months ago in case someone 
> remembers (there will be some code for you guys soon ;-) ).
> 
> For the conference CD, they want me to give them my code. Is it ok if i just 
> send them the whole qemu code I have here (I have only modified the Makefile 
> to include my hw/myfile.c) --- i just want to make sure that the version is 
> right and it compiles out of the box.

As a general note, if you have modifications which are useful to a wider
audience, consider to submit them as patches to this mailing list.

> Is that OK with the GPL stuff?? I include all the READMEs that come with QEMU 
> svn, and I don't claim to be the author of QEMU or anything. Just want to do 
> it correctly ;-)

Yes, that's fine. (You can check for yourself, the GPL isn't as
incomprehensible as some other software licenses.)

> Any advice, comments, etc.?

Make sure to mark your version as a modified one, so people come to you
when they have questions, and don't ask us about bugs/features we never
heard of. :-)


Thiemo




[Qemu-devel] Publicating with QEMU

2007-09-19 Thread Clemens Kolbitsch
Hi guys!
Short question: I'm having a speech at BlackHat Japan in Oktober about 
something I made with qemu. Basically it is a new hardware type (so it is 
just an additional file in the hw-subdirectory) --- it's the wireless device 
I have been asking questions for a couple of months ago in case someone 
remembers (there will be some code for you guys soon ;-) ).

For the conference CD, they want me to give them my code. Is it ok if i just 
send them the whole qemu code I have here (I have only modified the Makefile 
to include my hw/myfile.c) --- i just want to make sure that the version is 
right and it compiles out of the box.

Is that OK with the GPL stuff?? I include all the READMEs that come with QEMU 
svn, and I don't claim to be the author of QEMU or anything. Just want to do 
it correctly ;-)

Any advice, comments, etc.?
Thanks!