Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-25 Thread Barak Azulay
On 11/17/2011 06:14 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. What we're suggesting is let's drop

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, to describe the calls you're proxying. The existing infrastructure in QEMU

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Jamie Lokier
On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we want to include an ISO (eventually) that contains binaries. Paolo Bonzini wrote: ovirt-guest-agent is

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/17/2011 02:59 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, to describe the calls you're proxying. The

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/17/2011 02:46 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent.

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Alon Levy
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:59:35AM -0600, Michael Roth wrote: On 11/16/2011 02:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Adam Litke
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Eric Gaulin
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:58:33AM -0600, Adam Litke wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 03:46:37AM -0500, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - I have been following this thread pretty closely and the

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 22:24:51 Adam Litke wrote: I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. Not

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-17 Thread Luiz Capitulino
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:09:10 +0200 Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 22:24:51 Adam Litke wrote: I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested,

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of requirements are strictly overlapping or if there

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Alexander Graf
On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific management tooling will need to communicate with qemu (via

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 05:01:00PM -0600, Michael Roth wrote: On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulay bazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Gal Hammer
On 15/11/2011 19:33, Alon Levy wrote: Does it have a seperate system level and user level part in Linux? It No. The ovirt-guest-agent have only one instance running in the system level. Gal.

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Dor Laor
On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of requirements are strictly overlapping or if there are any

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we want to include an ISO (eventually) that contains binaries. This

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Dor Laor
On 11/16/2011 02:07 PM, Alon Levy wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 04:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there,

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we want to include an ISO

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 11/16/2011 02:42 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: On 11/16/2011 07:39 AM, Dor Laor wrote: On 11/16/2011 03:36 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: We have another requirement. We need to embed the source for the guest agent in the QEMU release tarball. This is for GPL compliance since we want to include an

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 02:16 AM, Ayal Baron wrote: - Original Message - Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around collecting requirements. We can then figure out if the two sets of requirements are

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulaybazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: But

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 11/16/2011 02:47 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: On 11/16/2011 06:07 AM, Alon Levy wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:53:45AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 11/15/2011 11:39 PM, Ayal Baron wrote: snip If you want to talk about convergence, the discussion should start around

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulaybazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote:

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Adam Litke
I have been following this thread pretty closely and the one sentence summary of the current argument is: ovirt-guest-agent is already featureful and tested, so let's drop qemu-ga and have everyone adopt ovirt-guest-agent. Unfortunately, this track strays completely away from the stated goal of

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: On 11/16/2011 06:13 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 10:16:57 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 08:05, Barak Azulaybazu...@redhat.com wrote: On Wednesday 16

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-16 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/16/2011 11:53 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: On Wednesday 16 November 2011 17:28:16 Michael Roth wrote: 2) You'd also need a schema, similar to qemu.git/qapi-schema-guest.json, to describe the calls you're proxying. The existing infrastructure in QEMU will handle all the work of

[Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Barak Azulay
Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to converge the efforts to a single agent that will serve

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Myers
On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Subhendu Ghosh
On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote: On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to converge

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Anthony Liguori
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to converge

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Myers
On 11/15/2011 01:08 PM, Subhendu Ghosh wrote: On 11/15/2011 01:01 PM, Perry Myers wrote: On 11/15/2011 12:24 PM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Ayal Baron
- Original Message - On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Michael Roth
On 11/15/2011 11:24 AM, Barak Azulay wrote: Hi, One of the breakout sessions during the ovirt workshop [1] was about the guest tools, and focused mainly on the ovirt-guest-agent [2]. One of the issues discussed there, was the various existing guest agents out there, and the need to converge

Re: [Qemu-devel] converging around a single guest agent

2011-11-15 Thread Barak Azulay
On Wednesday 16 November 2011 02:42:30 Alexander Graf wrote: On 16.11.2011, at 00:01, Michael Roth wrote: But practically-speaking, it's unavoidable that qemu-specific management tooling will need to communicate with qemu (via QMP/libqmp/HMP/etc, or by proxy via libvirt). It's through those