[Qemu-devel] [Bug 1622582] Re: Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

2016-09-22 Thread John Snow
** Changed in: qemu
   Status: New => Confirmed

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Title:
  Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

Status in QEMU:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a q35 machine on a "SATA disk". If
  I use q35 the installation is extremely slow. With extremely slow I
  mean, that the first few minutes (10-15 minutes) on the second
  installation step (copying files to disk) nothing happens. Than there
  is some progress, maybe until 9% and than there is "silence" for
  another 10 minutes or so. Therefore I used iotop (with --only option)
  in order to see, if there are any disk operations. But as I mentioned,
  only a few times qemu writes something to disk (with about < 1M/s).
  But most of the time there is nothing from qemu. Therefore the
  installation lasts over an hour. But even worse, after installation I
  can't boot Windows. Windows-Start-Manager tells me, that windows
  couldn't be loaded because the kernel is missing or corrupt (Status
  0xc221, File: \Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe). If I use IDE on q35
  or pc-i440fx-2.6 everything works fine. There is a continuous
  installation progress and iotop shows continuous disk writes with max
  30M/s (but also 5M/s and other values...).

  I've tried qemu 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.7.0 (all versions from git).

  My host machine: 
  Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
  3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU
  16 GB RAM

  
  I used the following commands:

  "Standard" command
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -hda win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 
-cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  I think by using -hda sata will be used?!?

  With explicit ahci:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=sata-disk -device 
ich9-ahci,id=ahci -device ide-drive,drive=sata-disk,bus=ahci.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=sata-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=sata-cdrom,bus=ahci.1 -boot order=d

  I don't know if this is totally correct, because it's a little bit
  weird that I have to use ide-drive on a ich9 bus.

  Without kvm there is a continious disk write with 100 K/s - 5 M/s (works only 
with qemu 2.7.0, otherwise I get a 0x00D1 bluescreen on the setup start 
screen):
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35 -cpu IvyBridge -hda 
win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 -cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  But with all three commands the installed Windows is not working,
  because always the same error occurs: windows couldn't be loaded
  because kernel is missing or corrupt

  Interestingly both commands ("standard" command and with explicit
  ahci) works very well with a Windows 10 installation.

  In my opinion it's a "SATA problem", because if I use e.g. piix4-ide instead 
of ich9-ahci it works:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=ide-disk -device 
piix4-ide,id=ide -device ide-drive,drive=ide-disk,bus=ide.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=ide-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=ide-cdrom,bus=ide.1 -boot order=d

  With this command there is a continuous disk write and the
  installation is bootable.

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 1622582] Re: Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

2016-09-22 Thread John Snow
I can reproduce with the English version:
7b7af5fe3a01e9fd76de4dacb45a796b  
en_windows_7_professional_x64_dvd_x15-65805.iso

I can't reproduce with SP1, however:
ed15956fe33c13642a6d2cb2c7aa9749  
en_windows_7_professional_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676939.iso

We might be bumping up against a driver fix, but I still don't know the
root cause just yet. I'll have to investigate. It looks like Windows 7
submits a flurry of NCQ writes, then hangs for a while, then submits an
ATA SET FEATURES request, then another flurry of NCQ writes, then hangs
for a while again; rinse repeat.

It doesn't LOOK as if QEMU is dropping any requests, but I will have to
investigate to see if there's anything improper happening...

In the meantime, for you and anyone else who comes across this problem,
I recommend using Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 if at all possible!

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Title:
  Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

Status in QEMU:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a q35 machine on a "SATA disk". If
  I use q35 the installation is extremely slow. With extremely slow I
  mean, that the first few minutes (10-15 minutes) on the second
  installation step (copying files to disk) nothing happens. Than there
  is some progress, maybe until 9% and than there is "silence" for
  another 10 minutes or so. Therefore I used iotop (with --only option)
  in order to see, if there are any disk operations. But as I mentioned,
  only a few times qemu writes something to disk (with about < 1M/s).
  But most of the time there is nothing from qemu. Therefore the
  installation lasts over an hour. But even worse, after installation I
  can't boot Windows. Windows-Start-Manager tells me, that windows
  couldn't be loaded because the kernel is missing or corrupt (Status
  0xc221, File: \Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe). If I use IDE on q35
  or pc-i440fx-2.6 everything works fine. There is a continuous
  installation progress and iotop shows continuous disk writes with max
  30M/s (but also 5M/s and other values...).

  I've tried qemu 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.7.0 (all versions from git).

  My host machine: 
  Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
  3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU
  16 GB RAM

  
  I used the following commands:

  "Standard" command
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -hda win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 
-cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  I think by using -hda sata will be used?!?

  With explicit ahci:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=sata-disk -device 
ich9-ahci,id=ahci -device ide-drive,drive=sata-disk,bus=ahci.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=sata-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=sata-cdrom,bus=ahci.1 -boot order=d

  I don't know if this is totally correct, because it's a little bit
  weird that I have to use ide-drive on a ich9 bus.

  Without kvm there is a continious disk write with 100 K/s - 5 M/s (works only 
with qemu 2.7.0, otherwise I get a 0x00D1 bluescreen on the setup start 
screen):
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35 -cpu IvyBridge -hda 
win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 -cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  But with all three commands the installed Windows is not working,
  because always the same error occurs: windows couldn't be loaded
  because kernel is missing or corrupt

  Interestingly both commands ("standard" command and with explicit
  ahci) works very well with a Windows 10 installation.

  In my opinion it's a "SATA problem", because if I use e.g. piix4-ide instead 
of ich9-ahci it works:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=ide-disk -device 
piix4-ide,id=ide -device ide-drive,drive=ide-disk,bus=ide.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=ide-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=ide-cdrom,bus=ide.1 -boot order=d

  With this command there is a continuous disk write and the
  installation is bootable.

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 1622582] Re: Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

2016-09-13 Thread Dennis
Hi John,
thx for your quick reply and the explanation for -hda and ide-drive.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional x64 German edition. The md5 sum is:
705b6aaa5cf406428c2ab5e4d76c0cc4

If you need anything else, please let me know.

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Title:
  Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a q35 machine on a "SATA disk". If
  I use q35 the installation is extremely slow. With extremely slow I
  mean, that the first few minutes (10-15 minutes) on the second
  installation step (copying files to disk) nothing happens. Than there
  is some progress, maybe until 9% and than there is "silence" for
  another 10 minutes or so. Therefore I used iotop (with --only option)
  in order to see, if there are any disk operations. But as I mentioned,
  only a few times qemu writes something to disk (with about < 1M/s).
  But most of the time there is nothing from qemu. Therefore the
  installation lasts over an hour. But even worse, after installation I
  can't boot Windows. Windows-Start-Manager tells me, that windows
  couldn't be loaded because the kernel is missing or corrupt (Status
  0xc221, File: \Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe). If I use IDE on q35
  or pc-i440fx-2.6 everything works fine. There is a continuous
  installation progress and iotop shows continuous disk writes with max
  30M/s (but also 5M/s and other values...).

  I've tried qemu 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.7.0 (all versions from git).

  My host machine: 
  Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
  3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU
  16 GB RAM

  
  I used the following commands:

  "Standard" command
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -hda win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 
-cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  I think by using -hda sata will be used?!?

  With explicit ahci:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=sata-disk -device 
ich9-ahci,id=ahci -device ide-drive,drive=sata-disk,bus=ahci.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=sata-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=sata-cdrom,bus=ahci.1 -boot order=d

  I don't know if this is totally correct, because it's a little bit
  weird that I have to use ide-drive on a ich9 bus.

  Without kvm there is a continious disk write with 100 K/s - 5 M/s (works only 
with qemu 2.7.0, otherwise I get a 0x00D1 bluescreen on the setup start 
screen):
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35 -cpu IvyBridge -hda 
win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 -cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  But with all three commands the installed Windows is not working,
  because always the same error occurs: windows couldn't be loaded
  because kernel is missing or corrupt

  Interestingly both commands ("standard" command and with explicit
  ahci) works very well with a Windows 10 installation.

  In my opinion it's a "SATA problem", because if I use e.g. piix4-ide instead 
of ich9-ahci it works:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=ide-disk -device 
piix4-ide,id=ide -device ide-drive,drive=ide-disk,bus=ide.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=ide-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=ide-cdrom,bus=ide.1 -boot order=d

  With this command there is a continuous disk write and the
  installation is bootable.

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 1622582] Re: Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

2016-09-12 Thread John Snow
Dennis, what's the exact version, edition, region (etc) of your Windows
7 install media?

It's been a while since I've tried to install Windows 7 personally, but
around the ~2.4 timeframe I didn't have any problems. I'd like to try
with your exact media if at all possible; can you give me a checksum? If
it's official MSDN media I can correlate that and attempt to reproduce.

Thanks,
--js

PS:

(1) Yes, using -hda et al under the Q35 machine type will give you SATA
disks on the AHCI device.

(2) All ATA-related devices are a type of "ide-drive" in QEMU, there is
no explicit "SATA" drive because QEMU does not bother or care to emulate
the transport specifics. At that level, ATA and SATA drives are almost
exactly the same, apart from an expanded command verb repertoire in the
SATA spec.

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Title:
  Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a q35 machine on a "SATA disk". If
  I use q35 the installation is extremely slow. With extremely slow I
  mean, that the first few minutes (10-15 minutes) on the second
  installation step (copying files to disk) nothing happens. Than there
  is some progress, maybe until 9% and than there is "silence" for
  another 10 minutes or so. Therefore I used iotop (with --only option)
  in order to see, if there are any disk operations. But as I mentioned,
  only a few times qemu writes something to disk (with about < 1M/s).
  But most of the time there is nothing from qemu. Therefore the
  installation lasts over an hour. But even worse, after installation I
  can't boot Windows. Windows-Start-Manager tells me, that windows
  couldn't be loaded because the kernel is missing or corrupt (Status
  0xc221, File: \Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe). If I use IDE on q35
  or pc-i440fx-2.6 everything works fine. There is a continuous
  installation progress and iotop shows continuous disk writes with max
  30M/s (but also 5M/s and other values...).

  I've tried qemu 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.7.0 (all versions from git).

  My host machine: 
  Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
  3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU
  16 GB RAM

  
  I used the following commands:

  "Standard" command
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -hda win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 
-cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  I think by using -hda sata will be used?!?

  With explicit ahci:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=sata-disk -device 
ich9-ahci,id=ahci -device ide-drive,drive=sata-disk,bus=ahci.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=sata-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=sata-cdrom,bus=ahci.1 -boot order=d

  I don't know if this is totally correct, because it's a little bit
  weird that I have to use ide-drive on a ich9 bus.

  Without kvm there is a continious disk write with 100 K/s - 5 M/s (works only 
with qemu 2.7.0, otherwise I get a 0x00D1 bluescreen on the setup start 
screen):
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35 -cpu IvyBridge -hda 
win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 -cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  But with all three commands the installed Windows is not working,
  because always the same error occurs: windows couldn't be loaded
  because kernel is missing or corrupt

  Interestingly both commands ("standard" command and with explicit
  ahci) works very well with a Windows 10 installation.

  In my opinion it's a "SATA problem", because if I use e.g. piix4-ide instead 
of ich9-ahci it works:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=ide-disk -device 
piix4-ide,id=ide -device ide-drive,drive=ide-disk,bus=ide.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=ide-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=ide-cdrom,bus=ide.1 -boot order=d

  With this command there is a continuous disk write and the
  installation is bootable.

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[Qemu-devel] [Bug 1622582] Re: Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

2016-09-12 Thread John Snow
** Changed in: qemu
 Assignee: (unassigned) => John Snow (jnsnow)

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Title:
  Can't install Windows 7 with q35 (SATA)

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  I'm trying to install Windows 7 on a q35 machine on a "SATA disk". If
  I use q35 the installation is extremely slow. With extremely slow I
  mean, that the first few minutes (10-15 minutes) on the second
  installation step (copying files to disk) nothing happens. Than there
  is some progress, maybe until 9% and than there is "silence" for
  another 10 minutes or so. Therefore I used iotop (with --only option)
  in order to see, if there are any disk operations. But as I mentioned,
  only a few times qemu writes something to disk (with about < 1M/s).
  But most of the time there is nothing from qemu. Therefore the
  installation lasts over an hour. But even worse, after installation I
  can't boot Windows. Windows-Start-Manager tells me, that windows
  couldn't be loaded because the kernel is missing or corrupt (Status
  0xc221, File: \Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe). If I use IDE on q35
  or pc-i440fx-2.6 everything works fine. There is a continuous
  installation progress and iotop shows continuous disk writes with max
  30M/s (but also 5M/s and other values...).

  I've tried qemu 2.6.0, 2.6.1 and 2.7.0 (all versions from git).

  My host machine: 
  Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
  3.13.0-95-generic #142-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 12 17:00:09 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU
  16 GB RAM

  
  I used the following commands:

  "Standard" command
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -hda win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 
-cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  I think by using -hda sata will be used?!?

  With explicit ahci:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=sata-disk -device 
ich9-ahci,id=ahci -device ide-drive,drive=sata-disk,bus=ahci.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=sata-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=sata-cdrom,bus=ahci.1 -boot order=d

  I don't know if this is totally correct, because it's a little bit
  weird that I have to use ide-drive on a ich9 bus.

  Without kvm there is a continious disk write with 100 K/s - 5 M/s (works only 
with qemu 2.7.0, otherwise I get a 0x00D1 bluescreen on the setup start 
screen):
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35 -cpu IvyBridge -hda 
win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2 -cdrom win7proX64.iso -boot order=d

  But with all three commands the installed Windows is not working,
  because always the same error occurs: windows couldn't be loaded
  because kernel is missing or corrupt

  Interestingly both commands ("standard" command and with explicit
  ahci) works very well with a Windows 10 installation.

  In my opinion it's a "SATA problem", because if I use e.g. piix4-ide instead 
of ich9-ahci it works:
  qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2048 -machine q35,accel=kvm -cpu host,kvm=off -smp 
1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=1 -enable-kvm -drive 
file=win7_qemu_standard_q35.qcow2,media=disk,if=none,id=ide-disk -device 
piix4-ide,id=ide -device ide-drive,drive=ide-disk,bus=ide.0 -drive 
file=win7proX64.iso,media=cdrom,if=none,id=ide-cdrom -device 
ide-cd,drive=ide-cdrom,bus=ide.1 -boot order=d

  With this command there is a continuous disk write and the
  installation is bootable.

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