Re: [QGIS-Developer] Deprecating OpenLayers Plugin?

[Nyall Dawson]

On 7 June 2018 at 08:48, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Il 06/06/2018 12:55, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
>> Hi Nyall, Primin, others:
>>
>> Il 06/06/2018 11:50, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
>>
>>> While we are discussing this - I'd also like to seem the same logic
>>> applied to the OpenLayers plugin. That plugin has very serious issues,
>>> more so than the Rectangles/ plugin (since OpenLayers can cause data
>>> corruption!). Better alternatives exist now (XYZ tiles,
>>> QuickMapServices plugin).
>>>
>>> I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
>>> marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.
>>
>> I understand your point, and I confirm that a large number of users
>> complain about this. I'd appreciate, before taking any step, if the
>> original author would comment on this.
>
> as far as I can understand, OL plugin is the sole that can be used
> legally; the others may violate GG licence (caution: IANAL).
> One alternative to deprecating would be to state clearly advantages
> (legality) and disadvantages (limitations or bugs) clear in the
> description and about.

I understand that's the case, but at the same time -- what's
ultimately better for our users? I think that given:

- there's a demonstrated need for this plugin, yet only in narrow
circumstances (users who specifically require Google Maps base layers,
and have made the call that using the Open Layers approach is legally
acceptable for their organisation)
- there's very serious, long standing issues here, causing real world
data corruption, and wasted time/frustration by our users, and better
alternatives exist which meet the needs of most users

we should deprecate it and mark it with a large warning, and ideally
see it moved it to a 3rd party plugin repo (which is not included in
the default QGIS install).

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Deprecating OpenLayers Plugin?

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi all,

Il 06/06/2018 12:55, Paolo Cavallini ha scritto:
> Hi Nyall, Primin, others:
> 
> Il 06/06/2018 11:50, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:
> 
>> While we are discussing this - I'd also like to seem the same logic
>> applied to the OpenLayers plugin. That plugin has very serious issues,
>> more so than the Rectangles/ plugin (since OpenLayers can cause data
>> corruption!). Better alternatives exist now (XYZ tiles,
>> QuickMapServices plugin).
>>
>> I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
>> marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.
> 
> I understand your point, and I confirm that a large number of users
> complain about this. I'd appreciate, before taking any step, if the
> original author would comment on this.

as far as I can understand, OL plugin is the sole that can be used
legally; the others may violate GG licence (caution: IANAL).
One alternative to deprecating would be to state clearly advantages
(legality) and disadvantages (limitations or bugs) clear in the
description and about.

All the best.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Changelog for 3.2 now active

[Régis Haubourg]

Thanks a lot Ismail and Tim!

Regards,
Régis

2018-06-06 21:10 GMT+02:00 Tim Sutton :

> Hi All
>
> Ismail Sunni has patched the changelog - it no longer requires moderation
> for categories, versions &  entries. I hope that makes the process much
> smoother now!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 05 Jun 2018, at 08:57, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Signed PGP part
> Hi
>
> Thanks for the kind comments. We have an open ticket for getting rid of
> the pending state stuff:
>
> https://github.com/kartoza/prj.app/issues/806
>
> We thought it was a great idea in the beginning, now we realise it was a
> crap one :-P
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On 04 Jun 2018, at 17:26, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:
>
> I see, there is a lot of Tim's good will involved in this tool.
> This is much appreciated!
>
> Thanks for approving, Régis.
>
> Cheers
> Matthias
>
> On 06/04/2018 05:18 PM, Régis Haubourg wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias, I approved 3 pending entries for you .
> The current Projecta workflow makes entries disappear when you submit
> them, and one with privileges must approve it (Tim, Richard and I, IIRC)
>
> I agree this is surprising and suboptimal, but we rely on Tim's efforts
> for having projecta, which is already a great tool.
> Régis
>
> 2018-06-04 17:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn  >:
>
>Thanks Etienne and Richard,
>
>I am aware that there is a documentation hook in place.
>
>I was under the impression that in the past new changelogs where
>pre-populated with commit messages containing [FEATURE] and I just had
>to fill the details and add others that were missing. But if you say it,
>I must be mixing something up here.
>
>I added everything manually now. I can't see it nowhere, but I hope it's
>in some review queue.
>
>Thanks
>Matthias
>
>On 06/04/2018 05:03 PM, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
>
>
> Nope, nothing is added automagically...
>
> What we have is a githook which adds an issue in the documentation
>
>issue
>
> list when a QGIS commit msg contains [FEATURE]:
>
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues
>
>
>
>
> Developers, Funders or just normal users have to add features for the
> Changelog theirselves, eventually based on something like:
>
> git log --oneline | grep FEATURE
>
> As 3.2 is coming, PLEASE add items to
>
> http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.2.0/
>
>
>
>
> so we will have a well filled nice changelog around the actual
>
>release!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>
>
> On 2018-06-04 16:43, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> interesting, even those commits tagged with [FEATURE] are not in the
> changelog, if I am not wrong, those were added automatically in
>
>the past.
>
>
> Matthias
>
> On 06/04/2018 04:08 PM, DelazJ wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is it normal that
>
>http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.2.0/
>
>
> provides only 5 new features?
>
> Harrissou
>
> 2018-03-03 12:15 GMT+01:00 Richard Duivenvoorde
>
>mailto:rdmaili...@duif.net >
>
> >>:
>
> On 03-03-18 08:33, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> >> I'm not sure if it's an issue with my projecta account, but I
> can't
> >> access the "pending entries" page for 3.2. I get a
> "changelog.qgis.org 
>
>
>
> >> 
> >> redirected you too many times" error.
> >>
> >> Is this a known issue?
> >
> >
> > No its not a know issue and its not raising anything on sentry
> for us
> > either. I approved the pending entries, if it does it again
> please ping
> > me and I will get one of my team to take a look.
>
> Well, yes it is, all 'normal' users have this, Etienne is aware
> of it.
> That is the reason I made Regis 'manager', as it is the only way
> to not
> being redirected. Adding permissions to a normal user do not fix
> this.
>
> I agree that the 'pending/moderation' stuff is causing more
>
>issues.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Changelog for 3.2 now active

[Tim Sutton]

Hi All

Ismail Sunni has patched the changelog - it no longer requires moderation for 
categories, versions &  entries. I hope that makes the process much smoother 
now!

Regards

Tim

> On 05 Jun 2018, at 08:57, Tim Sutton  wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for the kind comments. We have an open ticket for getting rid of the 
> pending state stuff:
> 
> https://github.com/kartoza/prj.app/issues/806 
> 
> 
> We thought it was a great idea in the beginning, now we realise it was a crap 
> one :-P
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 04 Jun 2018, at 17:26, Matthias Kuhn > > wrote:
>> 
>> I see, there is a lot of Tim's good will involved in this tool.
>> This is much appreciated!
>> 
>> Thanks for approving, Régis.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Matthias
>> 
>> On 06/04/2018 05:18 PM, Régis Haubourg wrote:
>>> Hi Matthias, I approved 3 pending entries for you .
>>> The current Projecta workflow makes entries disappear when you submit
>>> them, and one with privileges must approve it (Tim, Richard and I, IIRC)
>>> 
>>> I agree this is surprising and suboptimal, but we rely on Tim's efforts
>>> for having projecta, which is already a great tool.
>>> Régis
>>> 
>>> 2018-06-04 17:12 GMT+02:00 Matthias Kuhn >> 
>>> >>:
>>> 
>>>Thanks Etienne and Richard,
>>> 
>>>I am aware that there is a documentation hook in place.
>>> 
>>>I was under the impression that in the past new changelogs where
>>>pre-populated with commit messages containing [FEATURE] and I just had
>>>to fill the details and add others that were missing. But if you say it,
>>>I must be mixing something up here.
>>> 
>>>I added everything manually now. I can't see it nowhere, but I hope it's
>>>in some review queue.
>>> 
>>>Thanks
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>>On 06/04/2018 05:03 PM, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
 
 Nope, nothing is added automagically...
 
 What we have is a githook which adds an issue in the documentation
>>>issue
 list when a QGIS commit msg contains [FEATURE]:
 
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues 
 
>>>>> >
 
 Developers, Funders or just normal users have to add features for the
 Changelog theirselves, eventually based on something like:
 
 git log --oneline | grep FEATURE
 
 As 3.2 is coming, PLEASE add items to
 
 http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.2.0/ 
 
>>>>> >
 
 so we will have a well filled nice changelog around the actual
>>>release!
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard Duivenvoorde
 
 
 
 On 2018-06-04 16:43, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> interesting, even those commits tagged with [FEATURE] are not in the
> changelog, if I am not wrong, those were added automatically in
>>>the past.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> On 06/04/2018 04:08 PM, DelazJ wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is it normal that
>>>http://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/version/3.2.0/ 
>>> 
>>>>> >
>> provides only 5 new features?
>> 
>> Harrissou
>> 
>> 2018-03-03 12:15 GMT+01:00 Richard Duivenvoorde
>>>mailto:rdmaili...@duif.net> 
>>> >
>>  
>> > 
>> On 03-03-18 08:33, Tim Sutton wrote:
>> 
>> >> I'm not sure if it's an issue with my projecta account, but I
>> can't
>> >> access the "pending entries" page for 3.2. I get a
>> "changelog.qgis.org  
>> >
>>>>
>> >> >
>> >> redirected you too many times" error.
>> >>
>> >> Is this a known issue?
>> >
>> >
>> > No its not a know issue and its not raising anything on sentry
>> for us
>> > either. I approved the pending entries, if it does it again
>> please ping
>> > me and I will get one of my team to take a look.
>> 
>> Well, yes it is, all 'normal' users have this, Etienne is aware
>> of it.
>> That is the reason I made Regis 'manager', as it is the only way
>> to not

Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 2018-06-06 12:59, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 06/06/2018 11:22, DelazJ ha scritto:
I'd be in favor of fixing the current issue of freeze while 
deprecating

it with a message in its description (in Plugin Manager) inviting
potential users to migrate to the alternatives.


+1


But then I think, we should change plugin manager behaviour in: always 
show ALL deprecated plugins in a way that it is clear that the plugin is 
deprecated, BUT also make it possible to see the alternatives in the 
description.


Created a Feature Request: https://issues.qgis.org/issues/19125

Regards,

Richard

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Paolo Cavallini]

Il 06/06/2018 11:22, DelazJ ha scritto:

> Agreed  with Loïc. We often claim and try (Paolo?) to avoid redundant
> plugins. If in this case there are (better?) alternatives, we should not
> revive the plugin imho.
> I'd be in favor of fixing the current issue of freeze while deprecating
> it with a message in its description (in Plugin Manager) inviting
> potential users to migrate to the alternatives.

+1
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi Richard,


Il 06/06/2018 11:39, Richard Duivenvoorde ha scritto:

> Well, no offence either, but I think humans in general are conservative
> and like habits and structure :-)
> 
> So Matthias' (probably valid) point is: now we deprecated the (old
> Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin), people get lost because the miss
> there 'old/valuable/' plugin...
> Fact is also that older plugins popup earlier in google results if you
> google for certain words.
> 
> So the best way to handle this is to 'market' (better working) plugins
> more by maybe writing some blogposts, make people aware of your plugin
> in mailing lists etc etc?
> 
> In this way natural selection/evolution should make that the
> plugin-dino's finally get extinct because of Google finding the
> alternatives :-)
> 
> In general I think it is ok to deprecate plugins! In this case: an
> unmaintained buggy one, which has better alternatives... why keep it?
> But we have to find an (for us easy) way to help people who got lost
> because of a deprecation...
> (while writing I see Thomas is answering: I put a pointer to better
> working plugin in a fixed version. I think that is a good solution!)

as it often happens, I fully agree with you. Let's keep on reducing
duplication and confusion among users.

All the best.
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Tom Chadwin]

Alexander Bruy wrote
> 2018-06-06 12:50 GMT+03:00 Nyall Dawson 

> nyall.dawson@

> :
>> I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
>> marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.
> 
> Maybe better to point to core fucntionality than yet another plugin?

The functionality isn't the same. Core functionality lets users manually add
tileservers. OpenLayers and QMS plugins allow users to add *preconfigured*
tileservers. Do I recall that QMS adopted native tileserver functionality
where possible? I'd therefore point users to QMS, as Nyall suggests.

Tom



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[QGIS-Developer] Deprecating OpenLayers Plugin? (was: Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated)

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi Nyall, Primin, others:

Il 06/06/2018 11:50, Nyall Dawson ha scritto:

> While we are discussing this - I'd also like to seem the same logic
> applied to the OpenLayers plugin. That plugin has very serious issues,
> more so than the Rectangles/ plugin (since OpenLayers can cause data
> corruption!). Better alternatives exist now (XYZ tiles,
> QuickMapServices plugin).
> 
> I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
> marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.

I understand your point, and I confirm that a large number of users
complain about this. I'd appreciate, before taking any step, if the
original author would comment on this.
Thanks Pirmin.
All the best.

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Thomas Baumann]

@ Richard Duivenvoorde :

I am talking about the Rectangles Ovals Digitizing plugin (
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/rectovalDigit/  )
Current version is 1.1.2

The code is currently available at
https://github.com/vinayan/RectOvalDigitPlugin

The author itself ( Pavol Kapusta ) is ok with the idea of deprecating the
plugin.

I emailed the current maintainer Vinayan Parameswaran ( vinayan...@gmail.com)
to find out if he still maintains the plugin but did not get an answer.

If someone else knows how to get in contact with him feel free to do so.

My fork of the plugin with the bugfix is available at

https://github.com/rdbath/RectOvalDigitPlugin/

as version 1.1.3.

Thomas







Am Mi., 6. Juni 2018 um 10:48 Uhr schrieb Richard Duivenvoorde <
rdmaili...@duif.net>:

> On 2018-06-06 10:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:
> > Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti
> > :
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
> >> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/
> >>
> >> FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Loïc
>
> >
> > NOW I TRIED TO UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH THE BUGFIX AT
> > HTTPS://PLUGINS.QGIS.ORG/PLUGINS/ADD/ BUT I GET FOLLOWING
> > ERROR-MESSAGE:
> >
> >  "You cannot modifiy this plugin. "
> >
> > How should I proceed?
> >
> > Thomas
>
> I'm happy to move owner/maintainership to Thomas or Loïc, if needed.
>
> But it is not fully clear to me about which plugin (version) you
> (Thomas) are talking?
>
> So please:
> - make sure you have consent from the old maintainer to take over
> - sent me your username
> - the name of the plugin that you want ownership of
> - fix metadata of your new version so you credit yourself AND old
> maintainer
> - fix metadata so it points to your new maintained repo/docs/plugin
> site.
>
> Then we can move maintainership (and/or remove deprecated flag)
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Alexander Bruy]

2018-06-06 12:50 GMT+03:00 Nyall Dawson :
> I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
> marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.

Maybe better to point to core fucntionality than yet another plugin?


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Nyall Dawson]

On 5 June 2018 at 23:44, Matthias Kuhn  wrote:

>
> From my point of view, this patch should be shipped even without a
> general overhaul.
> The plugin in use and probably causing data loss, reducing productivity
> and giving bad reputation for QGIS (I guess many are not aware that it's
> actually a plugin which is responsible for the situation, that their
> QGIS is slowing down).

While we are discussing this - I'd also like to seem the same logic
applied to the OpenLayers plugin. That plugin has very serious issues,
more so than the Rectangles/ plugin (since OpenLayers can cause data
corruption!). Better alternatives exist now (XYZ tiles,
QuickMapServices plugin).

I'd be very much in favour of deprecating the OpenLayers plugin and
marking it with a "install QuickMapServices" instead warning.

Nyall
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 2018-06-06 11:13, L.Bartoletti wrote:

Not for me :)

I maintain only my fork (CADDigitize), and I preferer work on cad
integration into qgis :)

No offense to my question, but why use this plugin again, since
CADDigitize or QAD (and maybe others) do the same job (better) and 
more?


Regards

Loïc


Well, no offence either, but I think humans in general are conservative 
and like habits and structure :-)


So Matthias' (probably valid) point is: now we deprecated the (old 
Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin), people get lost because the miss 
there 'old/valuable/' plugin...
Fact is also that older plugins popup earlier in google results if you 
google for certain words.


So the best way to handle this is to 'market' (better working) plugins 
more by maybe writing some blogposts, make people aware of your plugin 
in mailing lists etc etc?


In this way natural selection/evolution should make that the 
plugin-dino's finally get extinct because of Google finding the 
alternatives :-)


In general I think it is ok to deprecate plugins! In this case: an 
unmaintained buggy one, which has better alternatives... why keep it?
But we have to find an (for us easy) way to help people who got lost 
because of a deprecation...
(while writing I see Thomas is answering: I put a pointer to better 
working plugin in a fixed version. I think that is a good solution!)


Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Thomas Baumann]

In the fixed version of the plugin I have written in the about section:
"about=THIS PLUGIN IS NO LONGER ACTIVELY MAINTAINED. PLEASE USE CADDIGITIZE
INSTEAD: https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/;

So the idea behind the update is just to fix the problem for the users who
have installed the plugin and point them to an alternative.
I think that these users won't find out that they should get rid of the
plugin if it's just flagged as deprecated or does the user get a message
for already installed plugins if they get flagged as deprecated?


Am Mi., 6. Juni 2018 um 11:22 Uhr schrieb DelazJ :

> Hi,
> Should we not take the occasion to get rid of this plugin
>
> 2018-06-06 11:13 GMT+02:00 L.Bartoletti :
>
>>
>>
>> No offense to my question, but why use this plugin again, since
>> CADDigitize or QAD (and maybe others) do the same job (better) and more?
>>
>> Agreed  with Loïc. We often claim and try (Paolo?) to avoid redundant
> plugins. If in this case there are (better?) alternatives, we should not
> revive the plugin imho.
> I'd be in favor of fixing the current issue of freeze while deprecating it
> with a message in its description (in Plugin Manager) inviting potential
> users to migrate to the alternatives.
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> Regards
>>
>> Loïc
>>
>>
>> On 06.06.2018 10:48, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
>> > On 2018-06-06 10:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:
>> >> Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
>> >>> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/
>> >>>
>> >>> FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards
>> >>>
>> >>> Loïc
>> >
>> >>
>> >> NOW I TRIED TO UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH THE BUGFIX AT
>> >> HTTPS://PLUGINS.QGIS.ORG/PLUGINS/ADD/ BUT I GET FOLLOWING
>> >> ERROR-MESSAGE:
>> >>
>> >>  "You cannot modifiy this plugin. "
>> >>
>> >> How should I proceed?
>> >>
>> >> Thomas
>> >
>> > I'm happy to move owner/maintainership to Thomas or Loïc, if needed.
>> >
>> > But it is not fully clear to me about which plugin (version) you
>> > (Thomas) are talking?
>> >
>> > So please:
>> > - make sure you have consent from the old maintainer to take over
>> > - sent me your username
>> > - the name of the plugin that you want ownership of
>> > - fix metadata of your new version so you credit yourself AND old
>> > maintainer
>> > - fix metadata so it points to your new maintained repo/docs/plugin
>> site.
>> >
>> > Then we can move maintainership (and/or remove deprecated flag)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Richard Duivenvoorde
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[DelazJ]

Hi,
Should we not take the occasion to get rid of this plugin

2018-06-06 11:13 GMT+02:00 L.Bartoletti :

>
>
> No offense to my question, but why use this plugin again, since
> CADDigitize or QAD (and maybe others) do the same job (better) and more?
>
> Agreed  with Loïc. We often claim and try (Paolo?) to avoid redundant
plugins. If in this case there are (better?) alternatives, we should not
revive the plugin imho.
I'd be in favor of fixing the current issue of freeze while deprecating it
with a message in its description (in Plugin Manager) inviting potential
users to migrate to the alternatives.

Regards,
Harrissou

Regards
>
> Loïc
>
>
> On 06.06.2018 10:48, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
> > On 2018-06-06 10:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:
> >> Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti
> >> :
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
> >>> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/
> >>>
> >>> FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Loïc
> >
> >>
> >> NOW I TRIED TO UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH THE BUGFIX AT
> >> HTTPS://PLUGINS.QGIS.ORG/PLUGINS/ADD/ BUT I GET FOLLOWING
> >> ERROR-MESSAGE:
> >>
> >>  "You cannot modifiy this plugin. "
> >>
> >> How should I proceed?
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >
> > I'm happy to move owner/maintainership to Thomas or Loïc, if needed.
> >
> > But it is not fully clear to me about which plugin (version) you
> > (Thomas) are talking?
> >
> > So please:
> > - make sure you have consent from the old maintainer to take over
> > - sent me your username
> > - the name of the plugin that you want ownership of
> > - fix metadata of your new version so you credit yourself AND old
> > maintainer
> > - fix metadata so it points to your new maintained repo/docs/plugin site.
> >
> > Then we can move maintainership (and/or remove deprecated flag)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Duivenvoorde
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Patrick Dunford]

The main other issue with it is if I have a form that I need to fill in 
the fields on, that doesn't pop up when you rightclick. You have to go 
find it in the table and then fill the fields in.



On 06/06/18 20:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:
Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti 
mailto:lbartole...@tuxfamily.org>>:


Hi,

I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/

FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.

Regards

Loïc

Hi,

good to know that there is a acitvely maintained alternative to the 
old plugin.


I agree with Matthias that a patch should be shipped.

( "/From my point of view, this patch should be shipped even without a
general overhaul. The plugin in use and probably causing data loss, 
reducing productivity

and giving bad reputation for QGIS (I guess many are not aware that it's
actually a plugin which is responsible for the situation, that their
QGIS is slowing down)./ " )

The current version of the plugin has more than 7 Downloads so 
probably there are a lot of people affected by the bug.


What's really nasty about the plugin is the fact that is slows down 
QGIS even if you don't use it's functionality. As soon as it is 
installed it listenes to the currentLayerChanged signal and connects 
the editingStarted and editingStopped signal again and again to the 
toggle function.


At the company I'm working for this bug had caused a lot of 
frustration until I found out what caused QGIS to slow down, freeze 
and crash.
Indeed the users (of course) did not differentiate between the core 
QGIS and plugins   and their feedback just was that their QGIS is slow 
and unstable.



*Now I tried to upload a new version of the plugin with the bugfix at 
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/add/ but I get following error-message:*


"You cannot modifiy this plugin. "

How should I proceed?


Thomas






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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[L.Bartoletti]

Not for me :)

I maintain only my fork (CADDigitize), and I preferer work on cad
integration into qgis :)

No offense to my question, but why use this plugin again, since
CADDigitize or QAD (and maybe others) do the same job (better) and more?

Regards

Loïc


On 06.06.2018 10:48, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
> On 2018-06-06 10:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:
>> Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti
>> :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
>>> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/
>>>
>>> FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Loïc
>
>>
>> NOW I TRIED TO UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH THE BUGFIX AT
>> HTTPS://PLUGINS.QGIS.ORG/PLUGINS/ADD/ BUT I GET FOLLOWING
>> ERROR-MESSAGE:
>>
>>  "You cannot modifiy this plugin. "
>>
>> How should I proceed?
>>
>> Thomas
>
> I'm happy to move owner/maintainership to Thomas or Loïc, if needed.
>
> But it is not fully clear to me about which plugin (version) you
> (Thomas) are talking?
>
> So please:
> - make sure you have consent from the old maintainer to take over
> - sent me your username
> - the name of the plugin that you want ownership of
> - fix metadata of your new version so you credit yourself AND old
> maintainer
> - fix metadata so it points to your new maintained repo/docs/plugin site.
>
> Then we can move maintainership (and/or remove deprecated flag)
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Duivenvoorde

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 2018-06-06 10:34, Thomas Baumann wrote:

Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti
:


Hi,

I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/

FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.

Regards

Loïc




NOW I TRIED TO UPLOAD A NEW VERSION OF THE PLUGIN WITH THE BUGFIX AT
HTTPS://PLUGINS.QGIS.ORG/PLUGINS/ADD/ BUT I GET FOLLOWING
ERROR-MESSAGE:

 "You cannot modifiy this plugin. "

How should I proceed?

Thomas


I'm happy to move owner/maintainership to Thomas or Loïc, if needed.

But it is not fully clear to me about which plugin (version) you 
(Thomas) are talking?


So please:
- make sure you have consent from the old maintainer to take over
- sent me your username
- the name of the plugin that you want ownership of
- fix metadata of your new version so you credit yourself AND old 
maintainer
- fix metadata so it points to your new maintained repo/docs/plugin 
site.


Then we can move maintainership (and/or remove deprecated flag)

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] Rectangles-Ovals-Digitizing plugin deprecated

[Thomas Baumann]

Am Di., 5. Juni 2018 um 19:08 Uhr schrieb Loïc Bartoletti <
lbartole...@tuxfamily.org>:

> Hi,
>
> I forked it some years ago since it wasn't maintained, see
> https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/CADDigitize/
>
> FYI, it's integrated into QGIS 3.
>
> Regards
>
> Loïc
>

Hi,

good to know that there is a acitvely maintained alternative to the old
plugin.

I agree with Matthias that a patch should be shipped.

( "



*From my point of view, this patch should be shipped even without a general
overhaul.  The plugin in use and probably causing data loss, reducing
productivity and giving bad reputation for QGIS (I guess many are not aware
that it's actually a plugin which is responsible for the situation, that
their QGIS is slowing down).* " )

The current version of the plugin has more than 7 Downloads so probably
there are a lot of people affected by the bug.

What's really nasty about the plugin is the fact that is slows down QGIS
even if you don't use it's functionality. As soon as it is installed it
listenes to the currentLayerChanged signal and connects the editingStarted
and editingStopped signal again and again to the toggle function.

At the company I'm working for this bug had caused a lot of frustration
until I found out what caused QGIS to slow down, freeze and crash.
Indeed the users (of course) did not differentiate between the core QGIS
and plugins   and their feedback just was that their QGIS is slow and
unstable.


*Now I tried to upload a new version of the plugin with the bugfix at
https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/add/
 but I get following error-message:*

"You cannot modifiy this plugin. "

How should I proceed?


Thomas
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[QGIS-Developer] Plugin [1476] QNEAT3 approval notification.

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Plugin QNEAT3 approval by zimbogisgeek.
The plugin version "[1476] QNEAT3 1.0.0" is now approved
Link: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/QNEAT3/
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