Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 7 April 2014 18:15, Vincent Picavet vincent...@oslandia.com wrote: A good solution though would be to remove google layers and only use OSM and mapbox layers, which begin to be on par in terms of quality. I'm pretty sure this is against MapBox's terms of service too, unless users were made

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Also, when it comes to OSM, IMO proper TMS support should be what is (eventually) offered as implemented feature to users. That'd allow for OSM basemaps to also export properly in qgis composer. OpenLayer' layers not exporting well in qgis composer is a pretty big limitation. Maybe a simple UI to

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hello, Le lundi 7 avril 2014 12:05:05, Nyall Dawson a écrit : On 7 April 2014 18:15, Vincent Picavet vincent...@oslandia.com wrote: A good solution though would be to remove google layers and only use OSM and mapbox layers, which begin to be on par in terms of quality. I'm pretty sure

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Since the OpenLayers plugin does not (currently) work with master, perhaps we can replace it with TMS-based layers, wither through a plugin or as a native (GDAL-based) provider? Is there anything in OpenLayers that could not work with GDAL TMS mini-driver [1] ? On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:22 AM,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Since the OpenLayers plugin does not (currently) work with master, perhaps we can replace it with TMS-based layers, either through a plugin or as a native (GDAL-based) provider? Is there anything in OpenLayers plugin that could not work with GDAL TMS mini-driver [1] ? [1]

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Etienne Tourigny
Thanks for the links. Most of this information is also available at [1]. I am preparing a simple plugin to load these layers as raster layers, will keep you updated on this. [1] http://www.gdal.org/frmt_wms.html On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:32 PM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Olivier Dalang
Hi ! I agree with those saying it's better to integrate the features of top-plugin in the core, if we find the features are worth it, and if someone has the time to do so, rather than shipping dozens of preinstalled plugin. I don't like the impression it gives to have a brand new software

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Victor Olaya
I actually do not see the difference between a core plugin a something implemented directly in the core c++ code. Other than the extra time it might take to develop it. The user doesn't have to know it is a plugin, and it should be easy to actually remove a core plugin from the plugin manager

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread kimaidou
Hi Victor For me, core features (and not core plugins) are much more integrated into QGIS ui and dialogs. For example, tablemanager plugins adds some nice features , but they should be integrated in the Fields tab of the vector layer properties. Having the features separated in a plugin (core or

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-07 Thread Victor Olaya
I agree, each plugin is a different world. It's true that core development can bring further integration, but maybe moving plugins to core is a good moment to rethink how plugins can integrate in the QGIS interface and allow new ways of interacting (for instance, making it easy for a plugin to add

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 05/04/2014 18:59, Alex Mandel ha scritto: Perhaps the proposal is really, which plugins to ship by default? Which sounds the same but is slightly different or could be interpreted differently as add the plugins to core. right, thanks for clarifying. I'm +1 for adding a few more default

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-06 Thread kimaidou
Hi, I agree there are some plugin which could be added by default, whenever QGIS has no approaching feature like Openlayers plugin. For some plugins such as tablemanager, I think we would better add the features in core, to let the user modify the fields in the Fields tab of the layer properties,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-06 Thread Victor Olaya
Paolo Don't you think that adding mmqgis plugin into core will cause a lot of confusion, considering that its algorithms are already integrated in Processing (even with bug fixes in some cases)? I agree that it would be a great thing to have the OpenLayers plugin (or at least a similalar

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 06/04/2014 16:40, Victor Olaya ha scritto: Don't you think that adding mmqgis plugin into core will cause a lot of confusion, considering that its algorithms are already integrated in Processing (even with bug fixes in some cases)? oh. right.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-06 Thread Nyall Dawson
On 7 April 2014 14:53, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree that it would be a great thing to have the OpenLayers plugin (or at least a similalar functionality) available by default in core It seems that we all agree on this

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-05 Thread Etienne Tourigny
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that adding the plugins to core would be a good idea however I don't feel that we should just add them in their current state. The plugin repository has the benefit of of being able to update things faster then

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-05 Thread Alex Mandel
Perhaps the proposal is really, which plugins to ship by default? Which sounds the same but is slightly different or could be interpreted differently as add the plugins to core. I'm +1 for adding a few more default plugins to the distribution, especially if they are very common in usage. Remember

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-05 Thread AntonioLocandro
I think most users would have to download a few plugins before even considering using QGIS, which ones I certainly don't know since that would require community input via a poll or something but I would imagine a few should be installed by default like Processing e.g. Openlayers plugin once it's

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-05 Thread Etienne Tourigny
On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Etienne Tourigny etourigny@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.comwrote: I agree that adding the plugins to core would be a good idea however I don't feel that we should just add them in their current state.

[Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-04 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all. How about adding some popular, well tested plugin of general usage to main QGIS? We have done this in the past, e.g. for fTools, GDALTools, DB Manager etc., and they were good additions to QGIS. Currently the most downloaded (DESC) are: http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/openlayers_plugin/

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-04 Thread Etienne Tourigny
I think it's a great idea. +1 for openlayers, once it works with master (I don't use the others) how about adding value tool? http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/valuetool/ But we need to fix the pyqwt bug with debian before including it in main QGIS. http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7450 On Fri,

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-04 Thread AntonioLocandro
I think it's a great idea, I was actually thinking about this the other day and glad you brought the topic. Although we can install plugins certainly it becomes evident when a plugin should really become a core feature, example the Openlayers Plugin, I bet almost all people using QGIS downloads

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-04 Thread Nathan Woodrow
I agree that adding the plugins to core would be a good idea however I don't feel that we should just add them in their current state. The plugin repository has the benefit of of being able to update things faster then the release of QGIS itself if you find bugs, etc, you can also add features

Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding plugins to core?

2014-04-04 Thread Antonio Locandro
-developer] Adding plugins to core? To: antoniolocan...@hotmail.com CC: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org I agree that adding the plugins to core would be a good idea however I don't feel that we should just add them in their current state. The plugin repository has the benefit of of being able to update