Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-11 Thread Vincent Picavet - ML
Hello,

Le vendredi 6 février 2015, 17:34:46 Tim Sutton a écrit :
 Hi All
 
 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.
 
 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
 meeting!

I will not be there tomorrow, and I just wanted to remind the points raised 
last June which were important to me.

* The Certification Authority should be an independant, non-profit org, either 
OSGeo, or QGIS association
* The certification platform should be under the CA responsibility but its 
operation be contracted to a private org after an open tender bid. The 
platform operator should not be allowed to give training.
* The exam content should be under the responsibility of the CA, but it could 
be initially contracted to a private org after an open tender bid [1]
* There should be an open process to apply as a certified trainer, allowing 
to advertise certification training and invigilate exams
* Certification should have either a fixed cost, or a cost relative to the 
GNP/mean salary of the country of origin of the trainee [2]

[1] I would rather have an open collective process to build the exams, but 
could be harder to setup.
[2] I would prefer the second option

Questions :
- do we want certified trainers or certified training companies ?

That's mainly the points on my side, and I would be happy to see all of this 
take place.

Vincent

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-11 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi Tim,

I will try to participate too.
BTW, here is old wiki page about QGIS certification
https://hub.qgis.org/wiki/17/Certification

I think it still contains some important topics to discuss.

2015-02-06 17:34 GMT+02:00 Tim Sutton t...@kartoza.com:

 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
 meeting!

 Regards

 Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-11 Thread Matteo Ghetta
Hi all,
I will try to be there with you!

Matteo
Il giorno 11/feb/2015 19.51, Alexander Bruy alexander.b...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 Hi Tim,

 I will try to participate too.
 BTW, here is old wiki page about QGIS certification
 https://hub.qgis.org/wiki/17/Certification

 I think it still contains some important topics to discuss.

 2015-02-06 17:34 GMT+02:00 Tim Sutton t...@kartoza.com:

 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
 meeting!

 Regards

 Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-11 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Vincent

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Vincent Picavet - ML 
vincent...@oslandia.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Le vendredi 6 février 2015, 17:34:46 Tim Sutton a écrit :
  Hi All
 
  We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
  certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
  #qgis-certification.
 
  If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
  along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
  meeting!

 I will not be there tomorrow, and I just wanted to remind the points raised
 last June which were important to me.

 * The Certification Authority should be an independant, non-profit org,
 either
 OSGeo, or QGIS association
 * The certification platform should be under the CA responsibility but its
 operation be contracted to a private org after an open tender bid. The
 platform operator should not be allowed to give training.
 * The exam content should be under the responsibility of the CA, but it
 could
 be initially contracted to a private org after an open tender bid [1]
 * There should be an open process to apply as a certified trainer,
 allowing
 to advertise certification training and invigilate exams
 * Certification should have either a fixed cost, or a cost relative to the
 GNP/mean salary of the country of origin of the trainee [2]

 [1] I would rather have an open collective process to build the exams, but
 could be harder to setup.
 [2] I would prefer the second option

 Questions :
 - do we want certified trainers or certified training companies ?

 That's mainly the points on my side, and I would be happy to see all of
 this
 take place.


​Ok thanks for these points Vincent.

In terms of focus for the meeting, I think we need to follow the QGIS PSC
principle of sub/task groups self organizing and try to create a CA group
with a mandate to see the CA come to being and focus the meeting more on
the formation of a group with allocated responsibilities and less on the
the details of how we do it.

So my suggestion is that ​we get say 5 core member to volunteer (and try to
include folks from education institutions in the mix since I think their
outlook is quite different). And then get regular meetings in place to make
sure things progress...say once every two weeks where we can then focus on
the details of things that you have described above.

Regards

Tim



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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-09 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi Tim,


 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
 meeting!

will be there too.

cheers!


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Re: [Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-06 Thread G. Allegri
Thanks Tim, I'll try to be there.

giovanni

2015-02-06 16:34 GMT+01:00 Tim Sutton t...@kartoza.com:

 Hi All

 We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
 certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
 #qgis-certification.

 If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
 along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
 meeting!

 Regards

 Tim

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[Qgis-developer] QGIS Certification IRC meeting, Thrus 12 Feb, 2015

2015-02-06 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi All

We will be holding a meeting on IRC to discuss QGIS training and
certification on Thursday 12 Feb 2015 and 14h00 GMT in the channel
#qgis-certification.

If you have ideas about a certification programme for QGIS, please come
along and join us, or submit your ideas but email for discussion in the
meeting!

Regards

Tim

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