Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-21 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Rashad Thanks so much for your email below….sometimes things are not always easy to figure out, especially as QGIS gets bigger and more complex. We will really value your contribution as we move forward … and we will try to come up with a solution that works well for everyone. Best regards

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-20 Thread Rashad Kanavath
Hello, Sorry for the misunderstanding about my last mail, I didn't want to be disrespectful. I would like to continue the discussion about this contribution. We will push this contribution and try to answer to all questions, comments or issues about it. We will submit with my colleagues in few da

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 08/02/2018 10:31, Rashad Kanavath ha scritto: > I don't know what these developers are going to do with a bugfix after a > new release. That's some kind of mystery unsolved to me. we are doing regular point releases, an approach which has proven very successful IMHO > I hope there will be zer

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-08 Thread Rashad Kanavath
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Il 07/02/2018 11:18, Victor Olaya ha scritto: > > I dont see the advantage in having providers in core. > > I see the following: > * tests (already available in our infrastructure) > * translations > * more exposure > * documentation > > >

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, I disagree heartily: without GRASS and SAGA QGIS is currently unsuitable for serious, comprehensive GIS analysis work. Full stop. Missing one specific alg, even if not used daily, means having to switch to other software. We have already removed R provider: even if used by a tiny minority,

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread G. Allegri
I'm much more in favour for out of core providers, for the same reasons reported by Victor. Having only GDAL and QGIS algorithms in core will reduce the number of available algorithms out of the box, but: - from my experience - comprising years of feedbacks from the courses I teach - the most freq

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 07/02/2018 11:18, Victor Olaya ha scritto: > I dont see the advantage in having providers in core. I see the following: * tests (already available in our infrastructure) * translations * more exposure * documentation > And if there is an > advantage, it's clearly not in how easy it is going to

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Rashad Kanavath
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Victor Olaya wrote: > I dont think that it is possible to make it more generic. It's not only > descriptors with only outputs and inputs. Each backend app has its own > logic. GRASS needs outputs to be converted to its own format. SAGA accepts > only SHP for vector

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Victor Olaya
I dont think that it is possible to make it more generic. It's not only descriptors with only outputs and inputs. Each backend app has its own logic. GRASS needs outputs to be converted to its own format. SAGA accepts only SHP for vector layers and generates its own SDAT format for raster outputs.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi Rashad, 2018-02-07 15:41 GMT+02:00 Rashad Kanavath : > Do you see a possibility of a generic processing provider?. One that can > read descriptor files and run algorithms!. This is possible in the ideal world of ponies and rainbows. In real world we need to deal with different types of the inp

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Rashad Kanavath
Hello victor, Do you see a possibility of a generic processing provider?. One that can read descriptor files and run algorithms!. I see processing as a single plugin (included in QGIS or not). And if it can avoid need to have sub-plugin managed by all those other development team. That's even bett

Re: [QGIS-Developer] External providers in QGIS

2018-02-07 Thread Victor Olaya
I dont see the advantage in having providers in core. And if there is an advantage, it's clearly not in how easy it is going to be to maintain the plugin. If the people responsible of a given backend (like OTB) are going to maintain it (which makes sense), why putting it in core where they don't ha