Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-29 Thread Rickard Öberg
On 2010-12-29 19.03, Niclas Hedhman wrote: I think that every concept you describe is a 'work-around' to "give me the current [left-front-tyre]" concept. But I think that you triggered enough thinking... I am actually not interested in "local identities" but "local identity references". If we go

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-29 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: > On 2010-12-28 20.55, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> >> For each StockDividend there are a few hundred streams(), but the >> "stream names" are known to the user applications via other means and >> many streamNames are shared across many StockDivid

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-28 Thread Rickard Öberg
On 2010-12-28 20.55, Niclas Hedhman wrote: For each StockDividend there are a few hundred streams(), but the "stream names" are known to the user applications via other means and many streamNames are shared across many StockDividends. So, now; How do I get from [StockDividend]+streamname to [Div

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: > The only reason I can think of, for > architectural reasons, is if you want to do sharding and hence simplify > routing to the correct server. > > So I'm guessing there's some other problem, that is yet to be spelled out, > that you're facin

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-27 Thread Rickard Öberg
On 2010-12-27 21.35, Niclas Hedhman wrote: Uhhh... Isn't the 'burden of guilt' wrongly put here? The burden of guilt is always the same, i.e. on the one proposing that "what is in Qi4j now is not enough, because I need to do X, and am considering to do Y". You still have not really presented

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-27 Thread Stanislav Muhametsin
I am facing similar problem as Niclas, but currently it is on such small scale that I've used queries to solve it. However, I have a feeling that I will need to get rid of them because they will be used so often that their slowness will begin to show. The interesting question is, as Niclas

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-27 Thread Pablo Abad
Hi Niclas, I've found about Qi4J about two months ago, and have already convinced my fellows to try it on a new project we are starting. We faced what I think is a similar problem to what you are describing, and on the brainstorming sessions we carried, what I heard most was 'if only there wa

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Rickard Öberg wrote: > On 2010-12-25 09.51, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> >> I have a series of upcoming demands to support entity-local >> identities, and in some cases the number of entities are numerous, in >> the 1000s of the aggregating entity. Worse is that I don

Re: [qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-26 Thread Rickard Öberg
On 2010-12-25 09.51, Niclas Hedhman wrote: I have a series of upcoming demands to support entity-local identities, and in some cases the number of entities are numerous, in the 1000s of the aggregating entity. Worse is that I don't really control the implementation, downstream developers will mak

[qi4j-dev] Entity-local identities...

2010-12-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Gang, (my Christmas present to you all) I have a series of upcoming demands to support entity-local identities, and in some cases the number of entities are numerous, in the 1000s of the aggregating entity. Worse is that I don't really control the implementation, downstream developers will make th