Hi Fabrizio,

it seems like the MIST is re-using the TG68 CPU core. Richard and me 
had debugged this CPU core, so it can execute most QL code.

After I prevously used other CPU cores, I will most likely stay with 
the TG68 (or a derivative) now, so the Q68 should have this 
similarity with the MIST. From what I read, the MIST probably 
resembles an original QL, while the Q68 is somewhere between SGC and 
Q40.

After demonstrating the Q68 at the Edinburgh meeting, I made a 
hardware redesign, so the Q68 board is now easier and cheaper to 
build. Also I did some work toward implementing a data/instruction 
cache.

As for Q40/Q60, the Q68 can not reach them in terms of speed. At the 
moment, the Q68 is only slightly faster than the QXL. However, since 
it is FPGA based, a later generation could benefit from faster chips 
without the need for a completely new design. If I remember 
correctly, the FPGA generation I picked for the Q68 is already 8 
years old, so there is room for more speed, should there be new 
generation Q68 someday.

In case I didn't write it here: The Q68 has 32 MB SDRAM @ 100 MHz, 
highcolor graphics, Ethernet, two SDHC slots, PS2 keyboard and 
mouse, stereo sound, SER, I2C, battery buffered realtime clock.

I didn't find time for QL work lately, but I still hope to bring the 
Q68 into a stage where it is useful for others.

All the best
Peter



On 17 Nov 2015 at 16:25, Fabrizio Diversi wrote:

> Peter,
> I remember an email  in 2013 ql-user discussing about Q68, any update about 
> the project ?Considering the work done with Mist , can it be enhanced to 
> replicate a Qx0?
> Many thanks 
> Ciao
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On 17 Nov 2015, at 14:31, pg...@q40.de wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Derek,
> > 
> >> To get SMSQ/E running on a standard QL with 640K or 896K ram, the SMSQ/E 
> >> initialisation routine would have to re-written to use the QL internal 
> >> memory map.
> > 
> > SMSQ/E on the standard QL requires a modified ROM, and can not just 
> > be loaded from QDOS or Minerva. An option would be to design an 
> > extension with shadow RAM.
> > 
> >> This is one of my pet project to get running, as the SMSQ/E source code 
> >> is available, so should be achievable.
> >> 
> >> But a couple of questions arise:
> >> 
> >> 1. Is it worth the effort, when Minerva works very well and basically 
> >> does the same thing and can be extended where it does not.
> > 
> > As the QL has the slowest hardware, it would benefit most from the 
> > fast SMSQ/E BASIC.
> > 
> > Also, a QL port of SMSQ/E would run on the Q68 with just minor 
> > modifictaions. (SMSQ/E has more advantages over QDOS/Minerva on the 
> > Q68, because of the highcolor graphics and 32 MB RAM.)
> > 
> >> The big difference, is that SMSQ/E has the Extended Environment 
> >> built-in, this can be added to Minerva at boot up, as with Language tables.
> >> 
> >> Maybe a Minerva to SMSQ/E toolkit could be compiled from existing 
> >> toolkit to give Minerva the SMSQ/E functionality.
> > 
> > Sounds nice, but I think porting SMSQ/E to the QL is less work than 
> > creating an add-on.
> > 
> >> 2: With a Gold Card or Super Gold Card fitted, can the QL internal ram 
> >> be access through some type of paging mechanism?
> > 
> > I don't think so. Only the video area.
> > 
> > All the best
> > Peter
> > 
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