[Ql-Users] Loft Clear out...

2011-04-02 Thread Anthony Prime
All,

I've been clearing my loft. I'm not sure if these are of any interest to
anyone, but I've uploaded three documents here:

https://public.me.com/anthony.prime

They are:
1. A promotional brochure for the Psion PC Four
2. A promotional brochure for Xchange (PC Version)
3. Psion Xchange newsletter dated Jan 1986
Each file is around 3mb and they make quite nostalgic readingŠ

Enjoy ;-)

PS ­ there are other items too, that I'll get round to scanning soonŠ
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Anthony W. Prime
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Sent using Outlook 2011 for OS X.



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[Ql-Users] Omega by Caret Limited

2011-04-02 Thread Rich Mellor
Does anyone else have a copy of this graphic adventure - see 
http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=Omegalang=en


I am having problems with the game - it works well on q-emulator, and I 
have both a Supercharged version and a Turbo version.


However, if I kill an enemy in either version, the game just hangs...

Am I missing something, or was this just a bug which was never fixed...

I wonder whether we could ever persuade Simon Goodwin to produce his 
missing program - a program to de-compile Turbo compiled programs


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[Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
I wonder if I may comment on the details of the problems with the Quanta 
Web Page on Page 4 or the latest QL Today. (I have extreme difficulty 
typing Today rather than Toady!)


The statement that Internet Explorer correctly, displays the menu items 
on the left hand side, but the rest of the screen appears blank until 
the user scrolls down to below the menu. amuses me somewhat.


I know exactly about this problem because my own web site at 
http://qdosmsg.dunbar-it.co.uk has the same problem with IE but not with 
anything else. (IE 9 does manage to display the pages properly I have to 
add.)


Equally, my old website page for QStripper used to have a comment at the 
top that said something about the big blank space and the fact that 
the menu scrolled off the top when you scrolled the page. Only IE gave 
these problems.


The cause is simple, Microsoft don't do standards. End of story. They 
think that they are too big and important for standards and ignore them, 
or change them as they see fit.


The affected web sites are using CSS and versions of IE that I have 
tested on my old web site failed miserably, up as far as IE 8 Beta, to 
render the page correctly according to the CSS rules.


At work I use the same Wiki system (DocuWiki) as I do for the above web 
site. Because the Government's chosen browser is IE 6.0 (the one with 
the most security holes and bugs in - go figure) we have to work with that.


If I use a decent template for our work wiki, it's horrible under IE, so 
I have to use one that make the system look like a late 70's web page 
rather than something a tad more modern.


My own web page doesn't display correctly using IE 6 and neither does 
the Quanta web page.


Gone are the days, thankfully, when you used to see web sites with signs 
on them saying best views in Internet Explorer, now you see Using IE? 
Shame. Why not get a proper browser that follows standards and you will 
enjoy this site all the more. (Or words to that effect!)


I decided with my own web site to use a template that I liked and if IE 
didn't work, then sorry, that's just tough. The properly written 
browsers do display the site correctly, so the solution is to get a 
proper browser. Harsh, possibly, but fair.


The world no longer cow-tows to Microsoft. Moving on 


Also on Page 4, it mentions that I created a test PDF of Volume 5 issue 
1, this was Volume 15 in actual fact, but no worries - I'm hardly one to 
criticise others for making typos am I! Not with the state of some of my 
articles. :-)


The PD I produced was in the full defaults for Open Office 3 and as 
such, the font size may have been bigger than usual. I also produced it 
with white space between paragraphs - something not often done in QL 
Today - and my biggest bugbear with the magazine.


As Geoff mentions, I created a single column layout at first as this is 
easiest to read on screen - you don't want to scroll down the page to 
read the first column, then back up and then down again to read the 
second column. In addition, where two articles share a page, you read 
down, up, down again to finish the first article, then down up and down 
to read the start of the second!


It's excellent on paper where your eyes do the moving, but not on screen 
- unless you have one of those monitors that displays a full A4 page in 
portrait format!




Cheers,
Norman.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread gdgqler

On 2 Apr 2011, at 17:08, Norman Dunbar wrote:

 
 I know exactly about this problem because my own web site at 
 http://qdosmsg.dunbar-it.co.uk has the same problem with IE but not with 
 anything else. (IE 9 does manage to display the pages properly I have to add.)

This site appears not to exist!

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] Omega by Caret Limited

2011-04-02 Thread peet vanpeebles
--- On Sat, 2/4/11, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk wrote:

 From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk
 Subject: [Ql-Users] Omega by Caret Limited
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Date: Saturday, 2 April, 2011, 16:45
 Does anyone else have a copy of this
 graphic adventure - see 
 http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=Omega〈=en
 
 I am having problems with the game - it works well on
 q-emulator, and I have both a Supercharged version and a
 Turbo version.
 
 However, if I kill an enemy in either version, the game
 just hangs...
 
 Am I missing something, or was this just a bug which was
 never fixed...
 
 I wonder whether we could ever persuade Simon Goodwin to
 produce his missing program - a program to de-compile Turbo
 compiled programs
 
 -- Rich Mellor
 RWAP Services
 
 http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
 http://www.rwapservices.co.uk
 
 -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com
 
 
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I have an original MDV of it but it does have an error on. The game runs 
though! :)

Pete.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread Norman Dunbar

I know exactly about this problem because my own web site at 
http://qdosmsg.dunbar-it.co.uk has the same problem with IE but not with 
anything else. (IE 9 does manage to display the pages properly I have to add.)

This site appears not to exist!


This is why I said that I'm not in a position to criticise people for 
making typos! The proper URL should be http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk 
and not as above. Sigh!



Cheers,
Norman.

PS. I note you are busy again George . updating pages all over the 
place!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Right, are you wearing your flame-proof suit, Norman?

Norman Dunbar wrote:


I know exactly about this problem because my own web site at
http://qdosmsg.dunbar-it.co.uk has the same problem with IE but not
with anything else. (IE 9 does manage to display the pages properly 
I

have to add.)

But IE9 does not work on Windows XP machines.


The affected web sites are using CSS and versions of IE that I have
tested on my old web site failed miserably, up as far as IE 8 Beta, 
to

render the page correctly according to the CSS rules.
Well, I use IE8 and Firefox 3.6.16 and there are plenty of websites I 
visit from time to time which fail to display as intended on one 
browser or the other (mainly IE8 I hasten to add, though not always by 
any means).


I have just spent an hour or two trying to figure out why a page on a 
site I maintain for a local craft association failed to display 
properly on Firefox - a table got its columns a bit scrambled. I am 
not sure what the problem was - I redid the page in a  slightly 
different way and the problem eventually went away, but I didn't keep 
a copy to examine why. Using comment markers in table cells MAY have 
been the problem, but I am not sure.


My own web page doesn't display correctly using IE 6 and neither 
does

the Quanta web page.

I am surprised anything displays correctly in IE6!

Quanta home page has consistently failed to display as intended on IE8 
too (Dan and Keith are fed up of me complaining about it - it won't 
get fixed before the move to the new hosts which should happen real 
soon I hope).


It isn't just the Quanta home page that fails when using IE8 for me - 
I have great difficulties with the Typo3 CMS when trying to edit the 
pages via IE8. It is much easier (and seems to be faster, though that 
is probably subjective) when using Firefox.



Gone are the days, thankfully, when you used to see web sites with
signs on them saying best views in Internet Explorer, now you see
Using IE? Shame. Why not get a proper browser that follows 
standards
and you will enjoy this site all the more. (Or words to that 
effect!)
While I would be the last person on this planet to stand up for 
Micro$oft, the plain home truth is that the majority of Windows users 
still use Internet Explorer of one version or another, despite its 
faults. To say that to your website visitors is laziness in many 
ways, as you are failing to ensure your website works for the 
majority. However, using modern web page editing software often 
produces code which is very hard or impossible to study and recode by 
hand, so this tends to become unavoidable sometimes.


Of course, I suspect if you add up all the users of Firefox, Chrome, 
Safari and any other alternative browsers you may well find that the 
sum total of the others adds up to more than the number of IEs. If all 
the other browsers all display the pages correctly, your statement 
then starts to be valid.


Rant over.

Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread gdgqler

On 2 Apr 2011, at 17:23, Norman Dunbar wrote:

 PS. I note you are busy again George . updating pages all over the place!

At long last I've found out how (not to) set up  a queue device. In the course 
of this I have found a most intriguing error in SMSQ/E which shows that no-one 
has ever used the vector written specially for queues.

More of this later perhaps!

George

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread Norman Dunbar

Corrections:

On 02/04/11 18:11, Norman Dunbar wrote:

While I would be the last person on this planet to stand up for
Micro$oft,

You only stand up just before you throw another PC running Windows out
the window! ;-)


You only stand up for Microsoft was what I meant to say!



As of two months ago, the most used browser in all of Europe was Firefox
3. See
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/firefox-3-0-is-europe-s-most-popular-browser-588938


Sigh. As of March 31st 2009. Where I got two months ago I have no idea.


Cheers,
Norman.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta's Web Collapse, PDFs again (in QL Today)

2011-04-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Hi Dilwyn,


Right, are you wearing your flame-proof suit, Norman?

No! Should I be? I'm only ironing, nothing dangerous! ;-)

Ironing, or smoothing out the bugs?

Anyway, how can you be reading your email while ironing ???

I have just spent an hour or two trying to figure out why a page on 
a

site I maintain for a local craft association failed to display
properly on Firefox - a table got its columns a bit scrambled. I am
not sure what the problem was - I redid the page in a slightly
different way and the problem eventually went away, but I didn't
keep a copy to examine why. Using comment markers in table cells 
MAY

have been the problem, but I am not sure.

It's a shame you didn't keep a copy. Actually, I'm surprised you
didn't. Making changes to a live web site is dangerous. My stuff 
is

backed up daily and the Wiki software keeps n old versions - just
in case.
But you are an IT pro...I only take weekely backups because not enough 
changes (normally) get done in one week on any of the small-time stuff 
I do.



Still, it used to be IE 5.5 and when we (the government) upgraded to
IE 6.0, we have to get the vendors to build in different bugs to 
make the

system work with IE 6. Go figure!

He he, that I can believe ;-)


It isn't just the Quanta home page that fails when using IE8 for me
- I have great difficulties with the Typo3 CMS when trying to edit
the pages via IE8. It is much easier (and seems to be faster, 
though

that is probably subjective) when using Firefox.

I suspect the problem is because the CMS uses an on screen editor to
generate content. That is working inside a web page itself and
probably using CSS. Hence, IE (whatever version) with its CSS
problems, can't work with the editor properly. Just a hunch - I
obviously don't know.

Could well be the case.


While I would be the last person on this planet to stand up for
Micro$oft,
You only stand up just before you throw another PC running Windows 
out

the window! ;-)
Yup! As the caption competition picture my son sent to me for the 
March issue of the magazine shows ;-)



the plain home truth is that the majority of Windows users
still use Internet Explorer of one version or another, despite its
faults.

As of two months ago, the most used browser in all of Europe was
Firefox 3. See
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/firefox-3-0-is-europe-s-most-popular-browser-588938
- so unfortunately it seems as if all those Windows users are 
catching

on to quality products and no longer being spoon feed mush by
Microsoft.
At long last! Seems that forcing M$ to allow Windows user to select 
other browsers might be having an influence. That article is not 100% 
clear on it, though, because the direct comparison was with IE7.0 
specifically and mentions that the figure might be different if you 
base it on users using all versions of IE. Still that was 2009, so it 
must be even truer today. Thank goodness.



To say that to your website visitors is laziness in many ways,
as you are failing to ensure your website works for the majority.
No, my website actually works for the majority. My site is based on 
a

product that produces Web Standard HTML and CSS. It's not my fault
that the people too lazy to get a proper browser (oops!) decide to
stick with a broken one. One that has butchered web standards and
now, the cows have come home to roost. (Cows? Roosting? Who's got 
the

chickens then?)
At the very best you'd have to admit that you are denying a big group 
the joys of accessing your website if it won't work on IE! Then you'd 
say (probably) thank goodness



You do know, for example, that the web standard for email is plain
text. So why then do Microsoft set their email clients up with
default that send emails in bloody HTML. It takes masses more
bandwidth and gives what extra? A bold text here or a colour there?
It's content that is important - and that's why we have CSS, it
separates the content from the styling.
Yes, that's the difficult part. Give an average emailer the choice of 
pretty colours, fonts, pictures etc under their control against simple 
plain text, you probably know which they'd choose. Probably not the 
same as you and I would.



Rant over.

And a jolly good rant it was too. I enjoyed it. Cheers!

Drat, failed in my efforts to annoy Norman :o(

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Re: [Ql-Users] Omega by Caret Limited

2011-04-02 Thread Rich Mellor

On 02/04/2011 17:19, peet vanpeebles wrote:

--- On Sat, 2/4/11, Rich Mellorr...@rwapservices.co.uk  wrote:


From: Rich Mellorr...@rwapservices.co.uk
Subject: [Ql-Users] Omega by Caret Limited
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Date: Saturday, 2 April, 2011, 16:45
Does anyone else have a copy of this
graphic adventure - see 
http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki/index.php?title=Omega〈=en

I am having problems with the game - it works well on
q-emulator, and I have both a Supercharged version and a
Turbo version.

However, if I kill an enemy in either version, the game
just hangs...

Am I missing something, or was this just a bug which was
never fixed...

I wonder whether we could ever persuade Simon Goodwin to
produce his missing program - a program to de-compile Turbo
compiled programs

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I have an original MDV of it but it does have an error on. The game runs 
though! :)

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I think yours was the one I got the Turbo version from - try killing 
something...


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