Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect

2018-02-14 Thread Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users
pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:
> On 14/02/2018 15:04, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:
>> pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:
>>> Error returns:
>>> IMEM out of memory [SMSQ]
>> This is correct.
> If this is correct, isnt that bad news for any old toolkits that dont 
> expect the call to return on IMEM (as per the original Technical 
> Guide)? They would assume the memory is there and poke a hole in it..

Yes, actually I might be wrong here, looks like it tries to abandon
the current command in this case.

>>> Error returns: none
>> This is not ;-)
> You are certain of this?

Nah, for me nothing is certain in SBasic ;-)

By the way, if you look at the Minerva code you see

retzero
moveq   #0,d0   this was silly, but Qlib expected it!
rts

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect

2018-02-14 Thread pjwitte via Ql-Users

On 14/02/2018 15:04, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users wrote:

pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:

Error returns:
IMEM out of memory [SMSQ]

This is correct.
If this is correct, isnt that bad news for any old toolkits that dont 
expect the call to return on IMEM (as per the original Technical 
Guide)? They would assume the memory is there and poke a hole in it..



A1                                     A1 ???

This is probably correct.


Error returns: none

This is not ;-)

You are certain of this? Some of us have tried to follow some of the 
many paths this routine could take, and at least in some instances it 
appears to actually return to BASIC directly. So are you saying that 
in some instances it dosnt?

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[Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect

2018-02-14 Thread pjwitte via Ql-Users
|In later versions of the QDOS and SMSQ/E Reference Manual the 
documentation on QA.RESRI (aka bv.chrix), to test or stretch the 
arithmetic stack states:


Vector $11A Reserve Room on Arithmetic Stack QA.RESRI
Call parameters                         Return parameters
D1.L Number of bytes required          D1 ???
D2                                     D2.L ???
D3                                     D3.L ???
A0                                     A0 Preserved
A1 Pointer to RI stack (rel. A6)       A1 ???
A2                                     A2 Preserved
A3                                     A3 Preserved
Error returns:
IMEM out of memory [SMSQ]
none [QDOS]

This is strongly suspected to be incorrect. It should say the 
following (two corrections):


||Vector $11A Reserve Room on Arithmetic Stack QA.RESRI
Call parameters                         Return parameters
D1.L Number of bytes required          D1 ???
D2                                     D2.L ???
D3                                     D3.L ???
A0                                     A0 Preserved
A1                                     A1 ???
A2                                     A2 Preserved
A3                                     A3 Preserved
Error returns: none

Please complain if you know otherwise, or correct your notes, as 
appropriate


Per
|||
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Re: [Ql-Users] QA.RESRI info incorrect

2018-02-14 Thread Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users
pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:
> Error returns:
> IMEM out of memory [SMSQ]

This is correct.

> A1                                     A1 ???

This is probably correct.

> Error returns: none

This is not ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread pjwitte via Ql-Users
Ah, I see. Although I too use Thunderbird (except when Im on the hoof) 
I never realised thats how it worked. Very sorry. Pure ignorance not 
callous disregard for anyone's finer sensitivities. Also, being 
slightly dyxlespic I forget whether top or bottom posting is /de 
rigueu/r on this list. I remember that getting it wrong drove poor 
Tony Firshman spare! Sadly he hasnt been around for a while to give us 
a timely reminder. Anyway, this may be a good time to remind ourselves 
of Napoleon's excellent maxim: Dont put down the malice that which can 
adequately be explained by incompetence!


Per
On 14/02/2018 21:24, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote:

Hi Per,

On 14/02/18 20:21, pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:
If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I 
did? I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed 
something?
Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy 
would bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose..


Per


on this occasion, you just happened to be the victim, yes. Other 
culprits have done it before, not just to me though. So worry ye not!


I also get this on some Oracle lists that I follow for work, it's a 
right pain, and even when the mods tell people off, they still do it.


I'm currently scoffing a hot, decaf latte, one wine a  night midweek 
is enough, I need to be up early tomorrow and at work by 7AM.



Cheers,
Norm.



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Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread pjwitte via Ql-Users
If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I 
did? I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed 
something?
Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy 
would bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose..


Per
On 14/02/2018 20:40, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users wrote:

Good Evening All,

my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've 
been lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go 
figure, it's waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I 
should have hidden in in her suitcase!


That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is 
pi55ing down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk 
to the supermarket. And back, with the shopping!



Right, the request...

Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a 
thread and change the subject to something completely unrelated. 
Thanks.


It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I 
miss out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to 
another thread that I'm not following.


It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't 
tend to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful 
conclusion, so the new topic thread remain hidden within my 
ramblings. I just noticed a new topic thread hidden in my recent 
"Assembly language ePeriodical Issue 4" thread.


I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, 
and in reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new 
thread by replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded 
topic ends up hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out 
on stuff!


Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest!

Cheers,
Norm.

PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-)



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Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users

On 14/02/18 20:22, Dave Park via Ql-Users wrote:

Also, have you guys been following my new hardware releases on the forums
recently?


I see what you did there Dave! ;-)

And, yes, I have been following.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread Dave Park via Ql-Users
I don't know...

Having to read ALL THE THREADS sounds like an appropriate punishment for a
man who is so neglectful of his poor, loving wife. In a far off land, all
alone, just these young native men who are half naked all over the place,
virile and free.

Hell, got any of that wine left? :P

Right, to the request!

It's part of netiquette that if you drift a conversation of topic, you're
supposed to rename the thread to cover the new direction. It should still
nest under the original thread in mail readers.

This is why I mostly use the forums

I also hate it when people drift off topic within a thread!

Also, have you guys been following my new hardware releases on the forums
recently?

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users <
ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:

> Good Evening All,
>
> my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've been
> lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go figure, it's
> waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I should have hidden in in
> her suitcase!
>
> That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is pi55ing
> down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk to the
> supermarket. And back, with the shopping!
>
>
> Right, the request...
>
> Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a thread
> and change the subject to something completely unrelated. Thanks.
>
> It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I miss
> out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to another
> thread that I'm not following.
>
> It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't tend
> to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful conclusion, so
> the new topic thread remain hidden within my ramblings. I just noticed a
> new topic thread hidden in my recent "Assembly language ePeriodical Issue
> 4" thread.
>
> I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, and in
> reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new thread by
> replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded topic ends up
> hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out on stuff!
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest!
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
> PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-)
>
> --
> Norman Dunbar
> Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
>
> Registered address:
> 27a Lidget Hill
> Pudsey
> West Yorkshire
> United Kingdom
> LS28 7LG
>
> Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users

Hi Per,

On 14/02/18 20:21, pjwitte via Ql-Users wrote:
If Ive sinned, Norm, please forgive. Are you refering to anything I did? 
I ax cause I havent noticed the problem, so perhaps I missed something?
Anyway, enjoy your wine, although I would have thought a hot toddy would 
bring more cheer after your wet waddle to Waitrose..


Per


on this occasion, you just happened to be the victim, yes. Other 
culprits have done it before, not just to me though. So worry ye not!


I also get this on some Oracle lists that I follow for work, it's a 
right pain, and even when the mods tell people off, they still do it.


I'm currently scoffing a hot, decaf latte, one wine a  night midweek is 
enough, I need to be up early tomorrow and at work by 7AM.



Cheers,
Norm.

--
Norman Dunbar
Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
27a Lidget Hill
Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

Company Number: 05132767
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[Ql-Users] A polite request

2018-02-14 Thread Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users

Good Evening All,

my wife is currently in Central America, chasing sloths, and I've been 
lambasted because she didn't get her Valentine's card. Go figure, it's 
waiting here for he but that's not good enough - I should have hidden in 
in her suitcase!


That's just so you know what kind of night I'm having, plus, is pi55ing 
down and I'm soaked having just (stupidly) decided to walk to the 
supermarket. And back, with the shopping!



Right, the request...

Please, please, please do not "hijack" a thread. Don't reply to a thread 
and change the subject to something completely unrelated. Thanks.


It's a complete pain in the backside (see, I'm being polite!) when I 
miss out on some interesting topics because someone has replied to 
another thread that I'm not following.


It's especially painful when someone replied to my threads - I don't 
tend to read my own stuff after the topic has come to a graceful 
conclusion, so the new topic thread remain hidden within my ramblings. I 
just noticed a new topic thread hidden in my recent "Assembly language 
ePeriodical Issue 4" thread.


I use Thunderbird, I have it configured to list emails in threads, and 
in reverse date order with most recent first. If you start a new thread 
by replying to another, and change the subject, your threaded topic ends 
up hidden within the original topic thread and I miss out on stuff!


Anyway, I just wanted to get that off my chest!

Cheers,
Norm.

PS. Yes, I have had a large glass of crisp white wine tonight! ;-)

--
Norman Dunbar
Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
27a Lidget Hill
Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

Company Number: 05132767
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[Ql-Users] QA.RESRI - QDOSMSQ eference guide

2018-02-14 Thread Wolf via Ql-Users

Hi,

thanks, Per, for pointing out the inconsistencies in the entry 
conditions in vector QA.RESRI.


I'll make a note in the next version of the "QDOS SMS Reference guide" 
(ex Technical Manual and ex QDOS SMS reference manual) that on SMSQ/E it 
is not necessary to save the stack pointer in BV_RIP(A6) before calling 
this vector. However, I'm going to leave the general requirement in, 
since I don't know how this is handled in QDOS (AH, JM, JS etc), or in 
Minerva.



Wolfgang
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