Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
On 02/01/2019 23:43, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users wrote: The hard disk map can be corrupted by a variety of software: the main culprits are probably the GST Linker (old version, not the one supplied by Quanta) and any software which draws arcs or uses ATAN, ASIN or ACOS (QDOS only, not SMSQ/E!). Strange. Does anyone know why the above could result in a corrupted MAP for a hard disc? Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List
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Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
I solved the problem deleting, with Qxlwinreader, config file in the unreadable file and copying an old config from a backup qxl.win. Now it’s all’ OK. Thank you very much for your advice. Have a nice night. Renato Inviato da iPad > Il giorno 3 gen 2019, alle ore 00:43, Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users > ha scritto: > > hdutils DRVCHK and DRVLINK are QL side - they are QL executables. I have no > instructions for them, just this extract from the SMSQ/E manual. > Dilwyn > -- > DRVCHK and DRVLINK Hard Disk Utilities > > DRVCHK and DRVLINK are two hard disk utilities. In an ideal world you should > need neither, and if all is well there should be no harm done if you try > them. The programs will work on “QLWA” type hard disks, i.e. on the Miracle > Harddisk, all ACSI and SCSI harddisks connected to ATARIs, the QXL and QL > formatted disks on the Q60. They will also work with QXL.WIN type hard disk > containers, as used on QPC, SMSQmulator, Q68 and newer versions of SMSQ/E > for the Q60. We have no experience with the Falkenberg Harddisk interface > (it might trash your harddisk, we don't know), but it will not work on the > QUBIDE. > > DRVCHK is rather like a soft format which checks the readability of the free > sectors on the drive. It does not check the sectors which have been > allocated to files. If you find that reading some files is becoming > unreliable, you should copy the contents to a new file and then delete the > old file. This returns the sectors to the free space list. Executing DRVCHK > will check all the free sectors and eliminate unreadable sectors. Unreliable > sectors may not get eliminated and it might be useful to execute DRVCHK more > than once. If you have a rather unreliable drive, you may find it worthwhile > executing DRVCHK after a hard disk format as an additional check. > > DRVLINK is intended to repair the hard disk map of contents when this has > been corrupted. (Note that as the hard disk map is in the form of linked > lists similar to those used by MSDOS and other low grade operating systems, > continuing to create, delete or modify files on the disk when you suspect > that it may be corrupted is very unwise. It is safe to copy files to new > backup disks, but DO NOT OVERWRITE old backup disks, or you may find that > your backups are corrupted as well!). The hard disk map can be corrupted by > a variety of software: the main culprits are probably the GST Linker (old > version, not the one supplied by Quanta) and any software which draws arcs > or uses ATAN, ASIN or ACOS (QDOS only, not SMSQ/E!). > > The most obvious symptoms of corrupted maps are "drive full" messages when > the drive is not full or "bad or changed medium" when accessing files. In > the latter case, execute DRVLINK first, then delete the bad files, and > finally execute DRVCHK to check the freed sectors. > > DRVLINK may not completely repair the hard disk map, but it should put it > into a state where it will not get any worse. BEWARE: although DRVLINK is > believed to be safe, there could possibly be circumstances where the cure > could be worse than the disease. Corrupted maps are quite rare, so there has > not been much opportunity to exercise DRVLINK. > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
hdutils DRVCHK and DRVLINK are QL side - they are QL executables. I have no instructions for them, just this extract from the SMSQ/E manual. Dilwyn -- DRVCHK and DRVLINK Hard Disk Utilities DRVCHK and DRVLINK are two hard disk utilities. In an ideal world you should need neither, and if all is well there should be no harm done if you try them. The programs will work on “QLWA” type hard disks, i.e. on the Miracle Harddisk, all ACSI and SCSI harddisks connected to ATARIs, the QXL and QL formatted disks on the Q60. They will also work with QXL.WIN type hard disk containers, as used on QPC, SMSQmulator, Q68 and newer versions of SMSQ/E for the Q60. We have no experience with the Falkenberg Harddisk interface (it might trash your harddisk, we don't know), but it will not work on the QUBIDE. DRVCHK is rather like a soft format which checks the readability of the free sectors on the drive. It does not check the sectors which have been allocated to files. If you find that reading some files is becoming unreliable, you should copy the contents to a new file and then delete the old file. This returns the sectors to the free space list. Executing DRVCHK will check all the free sectors and eliminate unreadable sectors. Unreliable sectors may not get eliminated and it might be useful to execute DRVCHK more than once. If you have a rather unreliable drive, you may find it worthwhile executing DRVCHK after a hard disk format as an additional check. DRVLINK is intended to repair the hard disk map of contents when this has been corrupted. (Note that as the hard disk map is in the form of linked lists similar to those used by MSDOS and other low grade operating systems, continuing to create, delete or modify files on the disk when you suspect that it may be corrupted is very unwise. It is safe to copy files to new backup disks, but DO NOT OVERWRITE old backup disks, or you may find that your backups are corrupted as well!). The hard disk map can be corrupted by a variety of software: the main culprits are probably the GST Linker (old version, not the one supplied by Quanta) and any software which draws arcs or uses ATAN, ASIN or ACOS (QDOS only, not SMSQ/E!). The most obvious symptoms of corrupted maps are "drive full" messages when the drive is not full or "bad or changed medium" when accessing files. In the latter case, execute DRVLINK first, then delete the bad files, and finally execute DRVCHK to check the freed sectors. DRVLINK may not completely repair the hard disk map, but it should put it into a state where it will not get any worse. BEWARE: although DRVLINK is believed to be safe, there could possibly be circumstances where the cure could be worse than the disease. Corrupted maps are quite rare, so there has not been much opportunity to exercise DRVLINK. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Can I modify from windows the config file ? -Messaggio originale- From: Renato Barigazzi via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:52 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Renato Barigazzi Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted QXLWinreader can read old the files in qxl.win but qpc2 cannot read! -Messaggio originale- From: Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Norman Dunbar Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Evening Renato. Are there any errors displayed? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
QXLWinreader can read all the files in qxl.win but qpc2 cannot read! -Messaggio originale- From: Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Norman Dunbar Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Evening Renato. Are there any errors displayed? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
QXLWinreader can read old the files in qxl.win but qpc2 cannot read! -Messaggio originale- From: Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Norman Dunbar Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Evening Renato. Are there any errors displayed? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Hi, only QPC2 does not see this qxl.win -Messaggio originale- From: Norman Dunbar via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Norman Dunbar Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Evening Renato. Are there any errors displayed? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Evening Renato. Are there any errors displayed? Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
All those programs work on the QL side or Windows side ? -Messaggio originale- From: Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 11:16 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Dilwyn Jones Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted There are some utilities out there such as Tony Tebby's DrvCheck and DrvLink (see hdutils.zip on Utilities page on my site http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/utils/index.html). There are a number of programs out there which MAY prove useful, such as Wolfgang Lenerz's Wined http://www.wlenerz.com/qlstuff/#wined which may prove useful, plus programs such as QxlWinReader on same page and another qxl win reader whose name I've forgotten (QXL.WIN explorer?) which may be able to "explore" the content even if not actually able to fully recover the file. This all depends on the nature of the corruption of course. **Always** read instructions of such programs carefully and if possible consult with other users for their experience before you embark on anything. It is only TOO easy to cause further damage and render any chances of recovery even smaller than before. All of my QXL.WIN failures over the years have been covered by backups or use of Tony's programs on a couple of occasions when the backups were unreadable back in the days when my backups were on CD and Iomega zip drives. Easy for me to be wise after the event obviously (sorry if that causes offence Renato), but of course Simon's advice is best - always backup, since it is so easy to copy a QXL.WIN somewhere as a backup since it's just a normal (if rather large) Windows-style file. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: simon629--- via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: simon...@sky.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Yes All ways Back up your win file to Dropbos On Wednesday, 2 January 2019, 21:06:07 GMT, Renato Barigazzi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi Is there anyway to recover a corrupted Qxl.Win ? I cannot open it in QPC2. Best regards Renato ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Hi I have saved qxl.win to my dropbox, but how can you read this file ? -Messaggio originale- From: simon629--- via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 10:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: simon...@sky.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Yes All ways Back up your win file to Dropbos On Wednesday, 2 January 2019, 21:06:07 GMT, Renato Barigazzi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi Is there anyway to recover a corrupted Qxl.Win ? I cannot open it in QPC2. Best regards Renato ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
There are some utilities out there such as Tony Tebby's DrvCheck and DrvLink (see hdutils.zip on Utilities page on my site http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/utils/index.html). There are a number of programs out there which MAY prove useful, such as Wolfgang Lenerz's Wined http://www.wlenerz.com/qlstuff/#wined which may prove useful, plus programs such as QxlWinReader on same page and another qxl win reader whose name I've forgotten (QXL.WIN explorer?) which may be able to "explore" the content even if not actually able to fully recover the file. This all depends on the nature of the corruption of course. **Always** read instructions of such programs carefully and if possible consult with other users for their experience before you embark on anything. It is only TOO easy to cause further damage and render any chances of recovery even smaller than before. All of my QXL.WIN failures over the years have been covered by backups or use of Tony's programs on a couple of occasions when the backups were unreadable back in the days when my backups were on CD and Iomega zip drives. Easy for me to be wise after the event obviously (sorry if that causes offence Renato), but of course Simon's advice is best - always backup, since it is so easy to copy a QXL.WIN somewhere as a backup since it's just a normal (if rather large) Windows-style file. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: simon629--- via Ql-Users Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 9:36 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: simon...@sky.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted Yes All ways Back up your win file to Dropbos On Wednesday, 2 January 2019, 21:06:07 GMT, Renato Barigazzi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi Is there anyway to recover a corrupted Qxl.Win ? I cannot open it in QPC2. Best regards Renato ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Yes All ways Back up your win file to Dropbos On Wednesday, 2 January 2019, 21:06:07 GMT, Renato Barigazzi via Ql-Users wrote: Hi Is there anyway to recover a corrupted Qxl.Win ? I cannot open it in QPC2. Best regards Renato ___ QL-Users Mailing List ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[Ql-Users] QXL.WIN corrupted
Hi Is there anyway to recover a corrupted Qxl.Win ? I cannot open it in QPC2. Best regards Renato ___ QL-Users Mailing List
