Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC cmd MRUN in a program...
On 11 Oct 2009, at 22:17, Martyn Hill wrote: Could anyone say whether the behaviour that I'm seeing when using MRUN in a running SBASIC prog is expected? As part of my initial SB boot prog, I include an MRUN statement that successfully merges some useful SB definitions (only). I expect the boot prog to continue to execute the next statement, but it simply stops after merging the DEFs. I'm running this in QPC. Is this expected behaviour? I read in the manual that MRUN in a program _should_ continue with the next runnable statement in the program. I have just written a program which uses MRUN in a BASIC program (P) . MRUN loads a procedure which is called by the line following MRUN. This works in QPC2 both by RUN having loaded P and also by LRUNning P. I guess there must be something else in your BOOT which causes the trouble. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] (Another) Question - Is it possible to save the QPC state?
On 11 Oct 2009, at 22:24, Martyn Hill wrote: While I'm at it, I was also wondering whether anyone knew if QPC can be made to save the QL environment before closing so that one could start-up where one left off? I know QPC copes well if I place my laptop to sleep, but it would be helpful to be able to save the entire emulated environment so that I could nip in and out without a complete QL restart... I should probably send this directly to Marcel, but see that he reads this list... This is indeed a practical question. I use 'hibernate' on my laptop to keep the QL going. Unfortunately, sometimes, as happened last night, one of the FATAL windows' errors occurred and hibernation became restart. So I lost what I was doing. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access
On 11 Oct 2009, at 22:30, Gerhard Plavec wrote: Yo :) then it's some sort of miracle. Usually I do know what my code can do and what not. The generally used name for this sort of miracle would be bug :)) Usually more code a programmer is generating, more miracles can be discovered... In very rare cases a bug can be used as a feature - that then is real miracle :) This implies that every program contains a miracle (since no program is bug-free)! George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access
Yo :) then it's some sort of miracle. Usually I do know what my code can do and what not. The generally used name for this sort of miracle would be bug :)) Usually more code a programmer is generating, more miracles can be discovered... In very rare cases a bug can be used as a feature - that then is real miracle :) This implies that every program contains a miracle (since no program is bug-free)! Often it's a real miracle when the written code does what the programmer wanted... but may be that's onely a bug :) @+ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC cmd MRUN in a program...
Hi Martyn, Could your problem have to do with line numbers? Per Message Received: Oct 11 2009, 10:17 PM From: Martyn Hill martyn.joseph.h...@googlemail.com To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Cc: Subject: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC cmd MRUN in a program... Hi again Could anyone say whether the behaviour that I'm seeing when using MRUN in a running SBASIC prog is expected? As part of my initial SB boot prog, I include an MRUN statement that successfully merges some useful SB definitions (only). I expect the boot prog to continue to execute the next statement, but it simply stops after merging the DEFs. I'm running this in QPC. Is this expected behaviour? I read in the manual that MRUN in a program _should_ continue with the next runnable statement in the program. Regards, Martyn Hill London. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Micro Men on BBC iPlayer, QL is mentioned!!
Thanks to Derek who shared his capture with ql-users I've just seen the movie this morning. Yes, it's amusing. Even there are errors but no big harm to the whole story. It's well done, especially as it's a drama and not a documentary. A guy of the production team contacted me this January asking for the QL TV ad which I did put on YouTube back in 2007. I directed them to all my QL and QL-is-25 material which is on the web. So it's nice to see that my stuff (Launch PIC's, TV ad, QL story, etc.) inspired them bringing QL coverage in this drama. I know that Rick Dickinson did assist with models, drawings and script authentification. The QL TV ad I've put on YouTube had more than 2500 views since Micro Men was broadcasted first last Thursday. Almost 100% of those 2500 views are from the UK which is not surprising. In the 2 years before the event it had something like 9500 views in total. Amazing?! http://www.cowo.ch/downloads/SinclairQL_TV_ad_Micro_Men_aftermath_20091011.j pg Best regards, Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Micro Men on BBC iPlayer, QL is mentioned!!
Neil Riley wrote: I recorded the program! One strange thing, it showed a TV advert, Clive Sinclair was leaping over other computers of the time and it briefly showed the QL and a price of £645 or thereabouts, Screen included perhaps! It's £698 not £645. This was the RRP for the QL computer and QL Vision CRT. The other systems in the TV add (IBM PC, Apple Macintosh, Acorn BBC) are also shown and priced with mass storage and CRT. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Micro Men on BBC iPlayer, QL is mentioned!!
I really enjoyed the movie! And I like the fact, that an Austrian (Hermann Hauser) played a big role in British computer industry;-) Greetings from Vienna/Austria, Anton Am 12.10.2009 um 15:10 schrieb Urs Koenig (QL): Neil Riley wrote: I recorded the program! One strange thing, it showed a TV advert, Clive Sinclair was leaping over other computers of the time and it briefly showed the QL and a price of £645 or thereabouts, Screen included perhaps! It's £698 not £645. This was the RRP for the QL computer and QL Vision CRT. The other systems in the TV add (IBM PC, Apple Macintosh, Acorn BBC) are also shown and priced with mass storage and CRT. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and direct sector access
You are right...;-). That's a lonely bug... Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: Gerhard Plavec Often it's a real miracle when the written code does what the programmer wanted... but may be that's onely a bug :) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Using a QL Emulator on a PC with a USB floppy disk drive
Can anyone please confirm that both QPC2 and q-emulator will work with a USB floppy disk drive - I am looking to upgrade my PC, but most of them don't have built in floppy disk drives any more :-( Rich ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Using a QL Emulator on a PC with a USB floppy disk drive
Rich, Yes, they both work. QPC2 treats the drive as a native QDOS floppy right away. With Q-emuLator you have to mount it as a QDOS floppy on one of the MDV slots, but it works. Regards, Adrian --- On Monday, October 12, 2009, 6:54:33 PM, you wrote: RM Can anyone please confirm that both QPC2 and q-emulator will work with a RM USB floppy disk drive - I am looking to upgrade my PC, but most of them RM don't have built in floppy disk drives any more :-( RM Rich RM ___ RM QL-Users Mailing List RM http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Using a QL Emulator on a PC with a USB floppy disk drive
fyi. I'm running both emulators under Vista on a Sony VAIO laptop with no onboard floppy drive, so USB is the only option. --- On Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:04:03 PM, I wrote: ADI Rich, ADI Yes, they both work. QPC2 treats the drive as a native QDOS floppy ADI right away. With Q-emuLator you have to mount it as a QDOS floppy on ADI one of the MDV slots, but it works. ADI Regards, ADI Adrian ADI --- ADI On Monday, October 12, 2009, 6:54:33 PM, Rich wrote: RM Can anyone please confirm that both QPC2 and q-emulator will work with a RM USB floppy disk drive - I am looking to upgrade my PC, but most of them RM don't have built in floppy disk drives any more :-( RM Rich RM ___ RM QL-Users Mailing List RM http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Using a QL Emulator on a PC with a USB floppy disk drive
I can confirm that it works too. If you plug in two USB floppy disks, the first becomes A: and the second B: ... quite the way it should be. I wonder what happens if you plug in a third one :-))) Jochen Adrian D. Ives wrote: fyi. I'm running both emulators under Vista on a Sony VAIO laptop with no onboard floppy drive, so USB is the only option. --- On Monday, October 12, 2009, 7:04:03 PM, I wrote: ADI Rich, ADI Yes, they both work. QPC2 treats the drive as a native QDOS floppy ADI right away. With Q-emuLator you have to mount it as a QDOS floppy on ADI one of the MDV slots, but it works. ADI Regards, ADI Adrian ADI --- ADI On Monday, October 12, 2009, 6:54:33 PM, Rich wrote: RM Can anyone please confirm that both QPC2 and q-emulator will work with a RM USB floppy disk drive - I am looking to upgrade my PC, but most of them RM don't have built in floppy disk drives any more :-( RM Rich RM ___ RM QL-Users Mailing List RM http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Jochen Merz Software - Kaiser-Wilhelm-Str. 302 - D-47169 Duisburg Tel. +49-(0)203-502011 Fax +49-(0)203-502012 Email: s...@j-m-s.com Homepage: http://SMSQ.J-M-S.COM ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Using a QL Emulator on a PC with a USB floppy disk drive
Adrian D. Ives wrote: But, actually, it's a good question. If Windows did mount a third USB floppy as, say, F: would QPC mount it as FLP3_? No, QPC supports only 2 FLP drives. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the QDT desktop and SBASIC job 0 windows...
Martyn Hill wrote:
I guess I am missing some understanding of the way PE windows work -
what I would like to achieve is to treat the job 0 windows in the same
way as any other job and have them hidden by the QDT desktop whenever
QDT is brought to the top, just as one might click 'Show Desktop' in
Windows.
QDT uses a trick for the icons, they are separate programs actually,
that's why you can pick them separately. An explicit Show Desktop
option is probably possible, but would have to be implemented by QDT.
As a work around I can unfortunately just suggest to Hide SBASIC
instead, for example by this hotkey (QPAC2 necessary):
ERT HOT_WAKE(',','Button_Sleep')
Now when you're in SBASIC Alt+, will hide it.
Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] (Another) Question - Is it possible to save the QPC state?
Martyn Hill wrote: While I'm at it, I was also wondering whether anyone knew if QPC can be made to save the QL environment before closing so that one could start-up where one left off? That was always something I wanted to have, but it's actually very difficult to do properly so I've never implemented it. I know QPC copes well if I place my laptop to sleep, Yeah, a lot of work went into that one already, earlier versions didn't cope quite that well. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Micro Men on BBC iPlayer, QL is mentioned!!
Derek Stewart wrote: Here is the ADrive.com link for the Micromen file. Thanks a bunch for that, interesting movie. If one can believe it, Sir Clive was basically a giant dick. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC cmd MRUN in a program...
In message 4ad24b63.5030...@googlemail.com, Martyn Hill martyn.joseph.h...@googlemail.com writes Hi Martyn. I know that LRUN works fine, in Boot links, as I use it successfully to chain a number of smaller Boot files; rather than one long one. As well as making choices to go to differing options. Maybe MRUN runs out direction after a merge somewhere in your Boot ? Or maybe it is just a line number problem ? Hi again Could anyone say whether the behaviour that I'm seeing when using MRUN in a running SBASIC prog is expected? As part of my initial SB boot prog, I include an MRUN statement that successfully merges some useful SB definitions (only). I expect the boot prog to continue to execute the next statement, but it simply stops after merging the DEFs. I'm running this in QPC. Is this expected behaviour? I read in the manual that MRUN in a program _should_ continue with the next runnable statement in the program. Regards, Martyn Hill London. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
