Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
Phill Harvey-Smith wrote, on 13/Mar/11 22:42 | Mar13: On 13/03/2011 21:48, Martin Wheatley wrote: At 10:03 13/03/2011, you wrote: On 13 Mar 2011, at 09:09, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: > On 13/03/2011 08:18, Ralf Reköndt wrote: >> Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >>> Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): >>> >>> http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip >> >> The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. > > I think the problem is that the png filenames contain a | character which is pipe under windows, and I believe an illegal filename character. > > Cheers. > > Phill. > Ah I see. I will not be home probably until this evening. Could you please re- name re-zip and put it somewhere for download? thanks, Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm What email cleint you using Martin, it seemed to totally mangle the quoting :( It is all in the original header: X-mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 ... and yes - really mangled. I don't see it by default as I use the excellent Thunderbird addition - QuoteCollapse. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
On 13/03/2011 21:48, Martin Wheatley wrote: At 10:03 13/03/2011, you wrote: On 13 Mar 2011, at 09:09, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: > On 13/03/2011 08:18, Ralf Reköndt wrote: >> Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >>> Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): >>> >>> http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip >> >> The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. > > I think the problem is that the png filenames contain a | character which is pipe under windows, and I believe an illegal filename character. > > Cheers. > > Phill. > Ah I see. I will not be home probably until this evening. Could you please re- name re-zip and put it somewhere for download? thanks, Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm What email cleint you using Martin, it seemed to totally mangle the quoting :( Cheers. Phill. -- Phill Harvey-Smith, Programmer, Hardware hacker, and general eccentric ! "You can twist perceptions, but reality won't budge" -- Rush. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
At 10:03 13/03/2011, you wrote: On 13 Mar 2011, at 09:09, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: > On 13/03/2011 08:18, Ralf Reköndt wrote: >> Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >>> Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): >>> >>> http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip >> >> The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. > > I think the problem is that the png filenames contain a | character which is pipe under windows, and I believe an illegal filename character. > > Cheers. > > Phill. > Ah I see. I will not be home probably until this evening. Could you please re- name re-zip and put it somewhere for download? thanks, Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm _macosxis a secondary file (I think used for indexing) which is created and included when you make a Zip file on the Mac martinw ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL replacements - state of play...
I am confident a board with an FPGA solution would be very affordable. If you factor in the development costs of the FPGA's programming, and writing drivers for SMSQ/E and/or Minerva, you'd still be looking at a board that costs less than $250... It would be noticeably faster than a Super Gold Card. It would also be at most 4" square, and draw a fraction of the power of a real, live QL. Although it is the "best" solution, it's also the hardest solution. There's a lot of hardware oddness to allow for in the QL's design and a lot that simply isn't documented. One aspect of this board is that it would be able to be an ST, Amiga, QL, almost any platform could be emulated just by changing the initial configuration of the FPGA on power-up. Dave On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Francois Lanciault < francoislancia...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I would prefer a 68xxx based solution as I am a retro hardware fan... But a > FPGA is close enough :-) > > What kind of price are we talking here... I know that I would buy anything > that gives me faster speed than a superGoldCard and that is $300 or less. > > I have no interest in an emulated solution. I like hardware. > > François > > Le 2011-03-11 à 17:38, Dave Park a écrit : > > > Hi all, > > > > So here's the state of play in designing new QL replacements... > > > > Peter Graf is bogged down with some issues on his board. It has a decent > > spec but it doesn't currently "work" in a meaningful sense. He has > various > > obstacles (working alone) that mean his design will be delayed or not > > released. > > > > So, for that reason, I'm looking at the resources we have available, the > > skills people on the list have, and seeing if we can have a serious, > > focused, yet public discussion about an alternate project. I have no > desire > > to "compete" with Peter Graf. However, it is always prudent to have a > > back-up plan that doesn't rely on someone who has been working on his > > project for several years with no new product to show... > > > > I shall outline basic choices which will go far to define the machine's > > spec, capabilities and expandability: > > > > CPU: > > > > The choice here is between three things: > > > > A genuine 680X0: > > + compatibility, already designed > > - availability and price > > > > An emulated 680X0 in FPGA form: > > + highly configurable, offers single chip solution, 68k VHDL sources in > > public domain, very low cost > > - heavier design load, harder to debug. > > > > Software emulation: > > + Already here/done, highly reconfigurable, no hardware skills needed > > - Intel hardware too big for just a QL - needs to do other things too - > > expensive. > > > > Specification: > > > > What clock speed is needed to be useful? 25 MHz? 40 MHz? > > What screen resolution? It's generally agreed that basic mode 4/8 is > > insufficient so GD2 support seems to be a basic requirement. VGA seems to > be > > a minimum and DVI seems desirable. > > What storage? We only need a gig or two - it seems SDHC is a > future-proof, > > low cost, low power, low design-cost standard many could get behind. > > > > I had a fork in the road moment when discussing emulation on ARM embedded > > boards vs. emulating the 68k in an FPGA. Right now, honestly, the FPGA > wins > > and will continue to do so for a few more years (unless the perfect ARM > > board can be bought off the shelf)... > > > > I'd like to support Peter in his efforts, but make sure that there's an > > alternative in place should he trip... > > > > Besides people I am already aware of, this seems to be something > constrained > > by our skills... > > > > There's a complete functioning 68000 FPGA core open-licensed here: > > http://opencores.org/project,ao68000 which is used for Amigas and Ataris > so > > seems eminently suitable... Knowing someone who can do further FPGA > design > > to add the video/etc we need is a crunch point. (This is basically what > > Peter's doing, except I understand he designed his 68000 from scratch and > > that's where he's stuck) > > > > There seem to be a lot of people willing to work to get SMSQ/E running on > > anything if it's compatible enough - this is great and it would be smart > to > > include SMSQ/E on any platform because it's the de facto standard. > Minerva > > is in second place, and original QDOS isn't really in the running... > > > > If someone can make an FPGA happen, I can make PCBs happen, then someone > can > > make the OS happen, then we have a computer. > > > > Of course, you could always decide that QPCII or Q-emuLator would replace > > that - they will always be faster :) However, this small project may have > > wider applications too, and it would be nice to see something happen. > > > > Dave > > ___ > > QL-Users Mailing List > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > __
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
Tony Firshman wrote, on 12/Mar/11 21:05 | Mar12: Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip Re-uploaded with sensible file names Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
Francois Lanciault wrote, on 13/Mar/11 14:38 | Mar13: Hi Adrian, After reading the manual I have one question: You are talking about the maximum baud rate supported on standard QL (4800) and Superhermes (57600). But what about a QL with an Hermes chip (not superhermes, just hermes). Do you think 19200 baud would work? !9200 is fine for *output* on any QL. Hermes gives a working nominal 19200 *input*. However due to the speed of the co-processor (well lack of speed!) max throughput is around 14k. USBWiz is capable of far more than that of course, so I expect it would input at a steady 14k. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
François, I have not had the opportunity to test Hermes (because I don't have one) only superHermes, but I have every reason to believe that it will work just as well, especially if it's using the same driver code. Tony can probably give some insight on the performance of the Hermes vs superHermes. I plan to offer complete built and tested units through Memory Lane Computing, provided there is a demand (and, obviously, if we can get this driver satisfactorily through beta testing). If anyone is interested in a built unit please send an e-mail to sa...@memorylanecomputing.com giving your details and we'll get back to you on likely availability and price. Adrian -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Francois Lanciault Sent: 13 March 2011 14:38 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available Hi Adrian, After reading the manual I have one question: You are talking about the maximum baud rate supported on standard QL (4800) and Superhermes (57600). But what about a QL with an Hermes chip (not superhermes, just hermes). Do you think 19200 baud would work? Is there any plan for someone to sell the device, comlete with cable ? François Le 2011-03-13 à 08:36, "Adrian Ives" a écrit : > If anyone is interested, the draft Ser-USB user manual can be found here: > > > > http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.zip > > > > Please note that this is a PDF file. > > > > This document will be important to anyone who is participating in the > beta, but may be of general interest to others. Any comments or > suggestions are welcome but off-list, please. > > > > > > Adrian > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL replacements - state of play...
I would prefer a 68xxx based solution as I am a retro hardware fan... But a FPGA is close enough :-) What kind of price are we talking here... I know that I would buy anything that gives me faster speed than a superGoldCard and that is $300 or less. I have no interest in an emulated solution. I like hardware. François Le 2011-03-11 à 17:38, Dave Park a écrit : > Hi all, > > So here's the state of play in designing new QL replacements... > > Peter Graf is bogged down with some issues on his board. It has a decent > spec but it doesn't currently "work" in a meaningful sense. He has various > obstacles (working alone) that mean his design will be delayed or not > released. > > So, for that reason, I'm looking at the resources we have available, the > skills people on the list have, and seeing if we can have a serious, > focused, yet public discussion about an alternate project. I have no desire > to "compete" with Peter Graf. However, it is always prudent to have a > back-up plan that doesn't rely on someone who has been working on his > project for several years with no new product to show... > > I shall outline basic choices which will go far to define the machine's > spec, capabilities and expandability: > > CPU: > > The choice here is between three things: > > A genuine 680X0: > + compatibility, already designed > - availability and price > > An emulated 680X0 in FPGA form: > + highly configurable, offers single chip solution, 68k VHDL sources in > public domain, very low cost > - heavier design load, harder to debug. > > Software emulation: > + Already here/done, highly reconfigurable, no hardware skills needed > - Intel hardware too big for just a QL - needs to do other things too - > expensive. > > Specification: > > What clock speed is needed to be useful? 25 MHz? 40 MHz? > What screen resolution? It's generally agreed that basic mode 4/8 is > insufficient so GD2 support seems to be a basic requirement. VGA seems to be > a minimum and DVI seems desirable. > What storage? We only need a gig or two - it seems SDHC is a future-proof, > low cost, low power, low design-cost standard many could get behind. > > I had a fork in the road moment when discussing emulation on ARM embedded > boards vs. emulating the 68k in an FPGA. Right now, honestly, the FPGA wins > and will continue to do so for a few more years (unless the perfect ARM > board can be bought off the shelf)... > > I'd like to support Peter in his efforts, but make sure that there's an > alternative in place should he trip... > > Besides people I am already aware of, this seems to be something constrained > by our skills... > > There's a complete functioning 68000 FPGA core open-licensed here: > http://opencores.org/project,ao68000 which is used for Amigas and Ataris so > seems eminently suitable... Knowing someone who can do further FPGA design > to add the video/etc we need is a crunch point. (This is basically what > Peter's doing, except I understand he designed his 68000 from scratch and > that's where he's stuck) > > There seem to be a lot of people willing to work to get SMSQ/E running on > anything if it's compatible enough - this is great and it would be smart to > include SMSQ/E on any platform because it's the de facto standard. Minerva > is in second place, and original QDOS isn't really in the running... > > If someone can make an FPGA happen, I can make PCBs happen, then someone can > make the OS happen, then we have a computer. > > Of course, you could always decide that QPCII or Q-emuLator would replace > that - they will always be faster :) However, this small project may have > wider applications too, and it would be nice to see something happen. > > Dave > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
You can access the PDF directly here: http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.pdf -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Tony Firshman Sent: 13 March 2011 13:27 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available Adrian/ > > On 13 Mar 2011, at 12:36, "Adrian Ives" wrote: > If anyone is interested, the draft Ser-USB user manual can be found here: > > http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.zip > > > > Please note that this is a PDF file. > > > > This document will be important to anyone who is participating in the > beta, but may be of general interest to others. Any comments or > suggestions are welcome but Can you please upload a pdf as well - my phone refuses to load zip files (8-(# and you seem to have done a brilliant job. I have two usbwiz but no beta time for at least a month. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
Hi Adrian, After reading the manual I have one question: You are talking about the maximum baud rate supported on standard QL (4800) and Superhermes (57600). But what about a QL with an Hermes chip (not superhermes, just hermes). Do you think 19200 baud would work? Is there any plan for someone to sell the device, comlete with cable ? François Le 2011-03-13 à 08:36, "Adrian Ives" a écrit : > If anyone is interested, the draft Ser-USB user manual can be found here: > > > > http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.zip > > > > Please note that this is a PDF file. > > > > This document will be important to anyone who is participating in the beta, > but may be of general interest to others. Any comments or suggestions are > welcome but off-list, please. > > > > > > Adrian > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
Hi Dave, I respectfully 100% disagree. :) No worries! When a community leaves everything to one individual, any number of problems can arise. Abandonment, accident, distraction, personal matters. That was my point too - although, unmentioned. If peter has been working for a while he may be losing interest, or motivation etc. My suggestion was to **offer** assistance. I mentioned that peter may have his reasons for not asking for help, that's fine. But we should at least offer - if we are able to. > Also, often the individual has their own goals that may not coincide with the needs or best interests of the community. Agreed. Suggesting people shouldn't even talk about ideas because someone _maybe_ has a project of undefined goal and specification that they haven't publicly discussed with anyone, and which may not surface for several more years... I never suggested that we shouldn't talk about things - I enjoy the hardware discussions even though most of the time I'm clueless - I was merely suggesting that if a (similar) project to what was being discussed was actually in progress, then maybe we should consider cooperating. Respectfully, And taken as such. ;-) Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7EL Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
Adrian/ > > On 13 Mar 2011, at 12:36, "Adrian Ives" wrote: > If anyone is interested, the draft Ser-USB user manual can be found here: > > http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.zip > > > > Please note that this is a PDF file. > > > > This document will be important to anyone who is participating in the beta, > but may be of general interest to others. Any comments or suggestions are > welcome but Can you please upload a pdf as well - my phone refuses to load zip files (8-(# and you seem to have done a brilliant job. I have two usbwiz but no beta time for at least a month. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] on behalf of Lee Privett [lee.priv...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 March 2011 09:41 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva Absolutely Lee - Back to the QL- - Original Message - From: Norman Dunbar To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva On 12/03/11 17:20, Dave Park wrote: > I just want to repeat that the idea of an FPGA-based QL is not mine and > belongs to Peter Graf - the only reason I found it necessary to mention his > project was to establish that he has already done some work on a project of > this type - informally. As a non-hardware person - I don't (yet) understand electronics, and from the sidelines, should we (as a group) not therefore be helping Peter to finish his kit rather than talking/thinking about another? Are we a community? Just a thought. It's perfectly possible that Peter may not want any help, but surely we could ask/offer where we are willing and have the skills? As a hardware guy, I would say the FPGA route is the way forward. Costs will continually drop and speed will increase. The VHDL design will be transportable to newer and faster FPGA's and is therefore future proof. One possible boot up mode could be classic QL with Trump card and simulated floppies (SD). Video output could be DVI. I really hope Peter could do this. Cheers Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Draft Ser-USB User Manual now available
If anyone is interested, the draft Ser-USB user manual can be found here: http://www.memorylanecomputing.com/files/serusb_manual.zip Please note that this is a PDF file. This document will be important to anyone who is participating in the beta, but may be of general interest to others. Any comments or suggestions are welcome but off-list, please. Adrian ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
I see, that the Medic I/F supports four drives (four drive select lines). Does anybody know a bit more about the software? Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:21 AM, Norman Dunbar wrote: > On 12/03/11 17:20, Dave Park wrote: > > I just want to repeat that the idea of an FPGA-based QL is not mine and >> belongs to Peter Graf - the only reason I found it necessary to mention >> his >> project was to establish that he has already done some work on a project >> of >> this type - informally. >> > > As a non-hardware person - I don't (yet) understand electronics, and from > the sidelines, should we (as a group) not therefore be helping Peter to > finish his kit rather than talking/thinking about another? > > Are we a community? > > Just a thought. It's perfectly possible that Peter may not want any help, > but surely we could ask/offer where we are willing and have the skills? > I respectfully 100% disagree. :) When a community leaves everything to one individual, any number of problems can arise. Abandonment, accident, distraction, personal matters. Also, often the individual has their own goals that may not coincide with the needs or best interests of the community. It's also not like there would be a dilution of effort - Peter seems to prefer working alone anyway - so those others who have skills certainly shouldn't be discouraged from using them just because someone _maybe_ has a project... Suggesting people shouldn't even talk about ideas because someone _maybe_ has a project of undefined goal and specification that they haven't publicly discussed with anyone, and which may not surface for several more years... When there are people interested in developing something, that is THE time for discussing ideas and seeing who can contribute what part, even if nothing comes from it. The exercise is still important. Respectfully, Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
On 13 Mar 2011, at 09:09, Phill Harvey-Smith wrote: > On 13/03/2011 08:18, Ralf Reköndt wrote: >> Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >>> Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): >>> >>> http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip >> >> The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. > > I think the problem is that the png filenames contain a | character which is > pipe under windows, and I believe an illegal filename character. > > Cheers. > > Phill. > Ah I see. I will not be home probably until this evening. Could you please re- name re-zip and put it somewhere for download? thanks, Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
On 13 Mar 2011, at 08:57, Ralf Reköndt wrote: > Adrian Ives wrote: > >> Try these: >> http://img135.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ >> http://img153.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com >> [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt >> Sent: 13 March 2011 08:19 >> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com >> Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board >> >> Tony Firshman wrote: >> >>> Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >>> Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): >>> >>> http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip >> >> The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. How wierd. medic.zip is not a QL zip but a 'normal' zip file containing two .png files. Maybe a downloaded program might do better - I use winrar. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(1442)-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, Tring, Herts, HP23 4DG > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 09:21 + schrieb Norman Dunbar: > On 12/03/11 17:20, Dave Park wrote: > > > I just want to repeat that the idea of an FPGA-based QL is not mine and > > belongs to Peter Graf - the only reason I found it necessary to mention his > > project was to establish that he has already done some work on a project of > > this type - informally. > > As a non-hardware person - I don't (yet) understand electronics, and > from the sidelines, should we (as a group) not therefore be helping > Peter to finish his kit rather than talking/thinking about another? > > Are we a community? > > Just a thought. It's perfectly possible that Peter may not want any > help, but surely we could ask/offer where we are willing and have the > skills? Definitely. It makes no sense to waste skills in more than one project. Should Peter want/need help, I'm sure there's hidden talents in the community. Cheers, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
Absolutely Lee - Back to the QL- - Original Message - From: Norman Dunbar To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva On 12/03/11 17:20, Dave Park wrote: > I just want to repeat that the idea of an FPGA-based QL is not mine and > belongs to Peter Graf - the only reason I found it necessary to mention his > project was to establish that he has already done some work on a project of > this type - informally. As a non-hardware person - I don't (yet) understand electronics, and from the sidelines, should we (as a group) not therefore be helping Peter to finish his kit rather than talking/thinking about another? Are we a community? Just a thought. It's perfectly possible that Peter may not want any help, but surely we could ask/offer where we are willing and have the skills? Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ser-USB on Minerva
On 12/03/11 17:20, Dave Park wrote: I just want to repeat that the idea of an FPGA-based QL is not mine and belongs to Peter Graf - the only reason I found it necessary to mention his project was to establish that he has already done some work on a project of this type - informally. As a non-hardware person - I don't (yet) understand electronics, and from the sidelines, should we (as a group) not therefore be helping Peter to finish his kit rather than talking/thinking about another? Are we a community? Just a thought. It's perfectly possible that Peter may not want any help, but surely we could ask/offer where we are willing and have the skills? Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
On 13/03/2011 08:18, Ralf Reköndt wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. I think the problem is that the png filenames contain a | character which is pipe under windows, and I believe an illegal filename character. Cheers. Phill. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
Adrian Ives wrote: Try these: http://img135.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ http://img153.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt Sent: 13 March 2011 08:19 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board Tony Firshman wrote: Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. Ahhh, thank you very much! Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
Try these: http://img135.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ http://img153.imageshack.us/i/medicinterfacecircuitdi.png/ -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt Sent: 13 March 2011 08:19 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board Tony Firshman wrote: > Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: >> Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? >> >> An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) >> > Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): > > http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Medic board
Tony Firshman wrote: Ralf Reköndt wrote, on 10/Mar/11 18:37 | Mar10: Does anyone have a manual for a Medic I/F to scan in and send to Dilwyn? An EPROM dump for examining would also a be good idea...;-) Medic circuit diagram (in two scanned A4 parts which need stitching!): http://tfs.firshman.co.uk/temp/medic.zip The zipped file is called "__MACOSX" (under Windows)...8-(. Can't read it. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
