Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Dilwyn Jones]

Lee Privett wrote:


Well I hope so, even if you're not a QUANTA member but still a QL
enthusiast, I believe that every additional hint/quote/comment or thought
dropped on to the Raspberry  Pi website forum or directly in an email to 
one
of the people there adds the chance to get others on board in supporting 
the

QL and SuperBASIC being a noted part of this hardware, stimulating young
people all over the world in to the joys of QL programming. Incidentally I
have recently got a copy (finally) of Jan Jones' definitive guide (QUANTA
version) and found it takes a total of just over fours to read cover to
cover (2 hours on the plane going, 2 hours on the plane back) and found a
good quote I really liked, "SuperBASIC is a language designed by 
programmers

for programmers"

Well said, Lee.

I can't remember where I read it, but there's a fascinating story somewhere 
about Jan Jones and the history of SuperBASIC. It might have been either in 
Tony Tebby's articles in QL Today, or possibly in the Sinclair history 
articles on Chris Owen's Wordl of Spectrum Spectrum and QL site, where the 
implication was that had Jan Jones not been willing to write SuperBASIC 
largely in her own time (there's faith for you), it might never have seen 
the light of day in a QL from Sinclair, or at least not in its eventual 
released form. SuperBASIC in its day (and still is to a great extent) a 
wonderful BASIC interpreter for home computers and of course since then 
SBASIC has built on this to become a "Super-Duper BASIC" if you like.


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Lee Privett]

Well I hope so, even if you're not a QUANTA member but still a QL
enthusiast, I believe that every additional hint/quote/comment or thought
dropped on to the Raspberry  Pi website forum or directly in an email to one
of the people there adds the chance to get others on board in supporting the
QL and SuperBASIC being a noted part of this hardware, stimulating young
people all over the world in to the joys of QL programming. Incidentally I
have recently got a copy (finally) of Jan Jones' definitive guide (QUANTA
version) and found it takes a total of just over fours to read cover to
cover (2 hours on the plane going, 2 hours on the plane back) and found a
good quote I really liked, "SuperBASIC is a language designed by programmers
for programmers"



On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bryan Horstmann  wrote:

> I've also been in contact with them about SBASIC and the QL on it, and
> probably many more have too.
>
> Bryan H
>
>
> On 30/08/2011 05:33, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
>> Hey Lee,
>>
>> On 30/08/11 16:50, Lee Privett wrote:
>>
>>> Just picked this up as I have been rather busy,
>>>
>> Me too.
>>
>>  Italy has lovely icecream
>>>
>> Oh indeed it does. And the food as well, yum!
>>
>>  and lastly I confess :)
>>>
>> Good man, well done. The Ql is famous (famouser (sorry Tony!)) now.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Norm.
>>
>>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Bryan Horstmann]

I've also been in contact with them about SBASIC and the QL on it, and 
probably many more have too.


Bryan H

On 30/08/2011 05:33, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Hey Lee,

On 30/08/11 16:50, Lee Privett wrote:

Just picked this up as I have been rather busy,

Me too.


Italy has lovely icecream

Oh indeed it does. And the food as well, yum!


and lastly I confess :)

Good man, well done. The Ql is famous (famouser (sorry Tony!)) now.

Cheers,
Norm.



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Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Norman Dunbar]

Hey Lee,

On 30/08/11 16:50, Lee Privett wrote:

Just picked this up as I have been rather busy,

Me too.


Italy has lovely icecream

Oh indeed it does. And the food as well, yum!


and lastly I confess :)

Good man, well done. The Ql is famous (famouser (sorry Tony!)) now.

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Dilwyn Jones]

I take it this means Lee asked awkward questions, and then fled the country 
for a while, just in case :-)


Actually, well done Lee for taking the QL message straight to the heart of 
Raspberry Pi. The more they are aware of us, the more likely I guess they 
will be to co-operate to help us make a QL of it.


Dilwyn Jones

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From: Lee Privett

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Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and 
running content



Just picked this up as I have been rather busy, Italy has lovely icecream
and lastly I confess :)

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Norman Dunbar 
wrote:



Sunday, 29th August.

Just watched a video of Eben doing a presentation. At around 11:45 he
mentions the "best email he has had" in which someone asked if they could
have a Rasberry Pi with a QL emulator so that it could fit inside the old 
QL

Case to make it look as if they were still running their old QLs.

Ok, confess, who was it? ;-)


Cheers,
Norm.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
Thorpe House
61 Richardshaw Lane
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fwd: [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Lee Privett]

Just picked this up as I have been rather busy, Italy has lovely icecream
and lastly I confess :)

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote:

> Sunday, 29th August.
>
> Just watched a video of Eben doing a presentation. At around 11:45 he
> mentions the "best email he has had" in which someone asked if they could
> have a Rasberry Pi with a QL emulator so that it could fit inside the old QL
> Case to make it look as if they were still running their old QLs.
>
> Ok, confess, who was it? ;-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Norm.
>
> --
> Norman Dunbar
> Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd
>
> Registered address:
> Thorpe House
> 61 Richardshaw Lane
> Pudsey
> West Yorkshire
> United Kingdom
> LS28 7EL
>
> Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back andrunning content

[Computer Research Centrum, Ltd]

>I work for Genesi , and I would like to help you with this.
>
>The ARM core is little endian , so if it doesn't contain tons of assembler it 
>should build.
>I will try it myself later this week.

OK, perfect.
Once it will be able to compile for ARM on Genesi, it will be possible to run 
it on Raspberry too.
J.D.
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Re: [Ql-Users] [Raspberry Pi] August update - boards back and running content

[Michael Grunditz]

28 aug 2011 kl. 10:01 skrev Jiri Dolezal:

>> We've had a busy month! We received our alpha boards two weeks ago, and 
>> already have a desktop environment and hardware-accelerated 3d and video up 
>> and running. Work on the final board design is proceeding well. For more 
>> details, check out our website at: http://www.raspberrypi.org
> 

snip


> Yes, for a QL emulator...
> I already have Genesi Efika Smartbook MX (ARM notebook) with Ubuntu 10.10.
> I tried to compile two Linux emulators.
> 
> QL68000.h:694: error: static declaration of ‘big_endian’ follows non-static 
> declaration
> make: *** [Init.o] Error 1
> QL68000.h:694: error: static declaration of ‘big_endian’ follows non-static 
> declaration
> make: *** [general.o] Error 1
> QL68000.h:694: error: static declaration of ‘big_endian’ follows non-static 
> declaration

Hi

I work for Genesi , and I would like to help you with this.

The ARM core is little endian , so if it doesn't contain tons of assembler it 
should build.
I will try it myself later this week.

/Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] uQLx

[Marcel Kilgus]

Computer Research Centrum, Ltd wrote:
>>in QDisk.c for the lines (around line 295) containing 'WA', 'A5' & 'B5'
>>as part of a switch statement.  If your processor is a big endian one, 
>>the code should work; however, if it is little endian (like the x86 
>>processors), then the tests will definitely fail - changing them to 
>>'AW', '5A' and '5B' should fix the working, but not the warnings.

No, the code is correct and does work (would be somewhat silly if a
central piece like this didn't work on PCs, the platform most people
use for uQLx). Check the RW macro definiton.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] uQLx

[Computer Research Centrum, Ltd]

>in QDisk.c for the lines (around line 295) containing 'WA', 'A5' & 'B5' 
>as part of a switch statement.  If your processor is a big endian one, 
>the code should work; however, if it is little endian (like the x86 
>processors), then the tests will definitely fail - changing them to 
>'AW', '5A' and '5B' should fix the working, but not the warnings.

ARM is, is far as I know, "bi-endian".
Very complicated.
   J.D.
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