Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Bob Spelten

Op Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:13:03 +0200 schreef Rich Mellor
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On 12/04/2012 14:44, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc4Xoz75yHI

please help
surely someone can convert a microdrive into a compact flash and sd  
memory read/write
does she still need the 6808with 8bit bus - this video was 8bit ide  
for 8bit z80 machine

was there no software that used the network?
didnt anyone bother to sort out the video ram add a second video ram  
page or more modes please
even the amstrad +2ab3grey keyboards were slightly nicer - simple  
decent keyboard?
did she have a keypad conenctor like the 128? no one bung a 68090 on  
there!


Can anyone come up with a suitable reply to this enquiry? Not sure  
where to start (apart from mentioning the QL-SD card project).


Dilwyn Jones


Just a thought on video modes...

An excerpt from the QL Wiki talks about several solutions to this..

* A program in the Quanta software library allows you to split a screen  
vertically in two, with one half displaying MODE 4 and the other half  
displaying MODE 8 - http://www.quanta.org.uk/?id=88
* A program Dithvide allows two images to be interlaced, tricking your  
mind into thinking that there are more colours -  
http://omega.webnode.com/products/product-2/
* The THOR XVI home computer included a MODE 12 command, which provided  
16 colours on screen at 256x256 pixels


* The Aurora Motherboard, which provided up to 768 x 576 pixel displays  
at 256 colours



Actually Aurora can use up to 1024x768 only in mode 4 under SMSQ/E.
But its mode 256 reduces the resolution to 512x480.
To complicate matters and confuse the public, Auroras mode 16 was never
implemented in SMSQ/E.
And GD2 defines Auroras mode 256 as the new mode 16 (QLT v8i1 page 52).

* The SMSQ/e Operating System, which, when used on Q40, Q60, QPC2, the  
QXL or Q-emuLator, can display 16 bit colour support at very high  
resolution.



I believe Q40/60 is limited to 1024x512.
I doubt QXL will go beyond 1024x768, it's limited by the (old ISA) parent
hardware and its own 4 or 8MB memory.
QPC2 is only limited by its modern parent hardware, and can then also do
mode 16 (256 colours).

By the way, I can't get the Quanta library guide to work on Q-emulator  
for some reason (cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs error -15 when it tries  
to open the database...)



Are you shure you have the DBAS extension loaded?
Is it Q-emulator or Norman's Libguide_exe? If so you can try
SuQcess (plug) to see if the dbs is valid.

Bob

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 13/04/12 13:44, Bob Spelten wrote:

Are you shure you have the DBAS extension loaded?
The flp's boot file should do that automagically, if I remember 
correctly. (I checked, yes it does!)



Is it Q-emulator or Norman's Libguide_exe? If so you can try
SuQcess (plug) to see if the dbs is valid.

Works perfectly on QPC. Although my libguide is very old!

Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 15:43, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 13/04/12 13:44, Bob Spelten wrote:

Are you shure you have the DBAS extension loaded?
The flp's boot file should do that automagically, if I remember 
correctly. (I checked, yes it does!)



Is it Q-emulator or Norman's Libguide_exe? If so you can try
SuQcess (plug) to see if the dbs is valid.

Works perfectly on QPC. Although my libguide is very old!

Cheers,
Norm.

I have just checked - it works on Q-emulator with Minerva, but not with 
a JS ROM for some reason


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Norman Dunbar

By the way, I can't get the Quanta library guide to work on Q-emulator
for some reason (cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs error -15 when it tries
to open the database...)


The error message you should see is as follows:

Cannot open file_name for READ access. Press ENTER ... - which means 
that there was a problem opening the file in normal QDOS read only mode.


Cannot open file_name as a database. (nn) Press ENTER ... - which 
means the file opened correctly in QDOS mode, but the opening of it as a 
database failed.


-15 is Bad Parameter, which is coming back, I suspect from the attempt 
to open the file as a database. in DBAS, that means, according to the 
docs, Not a database. Interesting!


I wonder if the database file has somehow been corrupted? Are the first 
4 characters DBAS? The file header is documented in the file 
organize_doc which should be in the DBAS disc in the Quanta library.



Cheers,
Norm.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 13/04/12 16:01, Rich Mellor wrote:

I have just checked - it works on Q-emulator with Minerva, but not with
a JS ROM for some reason


Hmmm. I developed it on a JS ROM, all those years ago!

I've just checked in QPC, VER$ says HBA - so not a JS ROM here then.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 16:02, Norman Dunbar wrote:

By the way, I can't get the Quanta library guide to work on Q-emulator
for some reason (cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs error -15 when it tries
to open the database...)


The error message you should see is as follows:

Cannot open file_name for READ access. Press ENTER ... - which means 
that there was a problem opening the file in normal QDOS read only mode.


Cannot open file_name as a database. (nn) Press ENTER ... - which 
means the file opened correctly in QDOS mode, but the opening of it as 
a database failed.


-15 is Bad Parameter, which is coming back, I suspect from the attempt 
to open the file as a database. in DBAS, that means, according to the 
docs, Not a database. Interesting!


I wonder if the database file has somehow been corrupted? Are the 
first 4 characters DBAS? The file header is documented in the file 
organize_doc which should be in the DBAS disc in the Quanta library.



Cheers,
Norm.



You are correct - the full error is:

Cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs as a database. -15 Press ENTER ...

The database starts with DBAS

As I say, the program runs fine under Minerva and I have opened it and 
resaved it.


It still will not open under a JS ROM on q-emulator.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 16:03, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 13/04/12 16:01, Rich Mellor wrote:

I have just checked - it works on Q-emulator with Minerva, but not with
a JS ROM for some reason


Hmmm. I developed it on a JS ROM, all those years ago!

I've just checked in QPC, VER$ says HBA - so not a JS ROM here then.


Cheers,
Norm.


Hee hee - QPC does not run QDOS - only SMSQ/e

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 13/04/12 16:06, Rich Mellor wrote:

You are correct - the full error is:

Cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs as a database. -15 Press ENTER ...

The database starts with DBAS

As I say, the program runs fine under Minerva and I have opened it and
resaved it.

It still will not open under a JS ROM on q-emulator.


The source code isn't complicated. Open the file as a qdos file first, 
then take the 32 bit channel number and use that to open the file as a 
database.


If the database id returned is negative, we have an error, bale out 
after displaying the error.


So the problem must be/is in the DBAS library or Q-Emulator I think, 
especially as it opens fine in other ROMs.


Difficult one to solve I think.


Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 13/04/12 16:08, Rich Mellor wrote:

Hee hee - QPC does not run QDOS - only SMSQ/e


I hate it when that happens!

Thanks for being gentle with me!

Mind you, it shows how well Marcel has done with QPC when it just works 
and just works in a manner that makes me think it's still QDOS. Ditto 
for SMSQ/e of course!




Cheers,
Norm.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 16:10, Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 13/04/12 16:06, Rich Mellor wrote:

You are correct - the full error is:

Cannot open flp1_libguide_dbs as a database. -15 Press ENTER ...

The database starts with DBAS

As I say, the program runs fine under Minerva and I have opened it and
resaved it.

It still will not open under a JS ROM on q-emulator.


The source code isn't complicated. Open the file as a qdos file first, 
then take the 32 bit channel number and use that to open the file as a 
database.


If the database id returned is negative, we have an error, bale out 
after displaying the error.


So the problem must be/is in the DBAS library or Q-Emulator I think, 
especially as it opens fine in other ROMs.


Difficult one to solve I think.


Cheers,
Norm.


I have tried a few different configurations..

It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what that 
one is).

But not AH, JM, or JS ROMs.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt
BTW: Does anybody knows, if this Tyche-ROM is a complete new QDOS? And 
what are the differences? Faster? Better...? Things that do not run?


Chreers...Ralf

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From: Rich Mellor


It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what that 
one is).


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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 16:46, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
BTW: Does anybody knows, if this Tyche-ROM is a complete new QDOS? 
And what are the differences? Faster? Better...? Things that do not run?


Chreers...Ralf

- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor

It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what 
that one is).


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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Ah, thank you. I had a quick look through the code. There seems to be a 
backup routine and a few unknown keywords like TODIR, UPDIR, seems a bit 
like DNEXT of TK2.


Would be interesting to know, if there is code for hard directories.

Cheers...Ralf

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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Dilwyn Jones

I have tried a few different configurations..

It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what that 
one is).

But not AH, JM, or JS ROMs.

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For what it's worth, I get exactly the same results on Qemulator v 3.1.2 
with the JS ROM image, and likewise it works OK on the Minerva image.


I tried a copy of the LIBADMIN package which Quanta uses to update the 
library guide, that gives the same error message with JS.


Yet I am sure I remember using it on my Minis-QL when I was librarian, but 
I'm not 100% sure as you could change ROM version on that (I set it up so I 
could use JM/JS/Minerva for software testing), so it may not have been JS 
when I used LIBADMIN, although that was the usual ROM I had in it.


Only other thing I can think of is to check memory configuration used with 
the JS system as I'm sure I remember at one stage that there was a patched 
JS ROM which worked with 4MB or more - it's on my website ROMs page - 
although I'm not sure which version of the JS Daniele supplies with 
Q-emuLator.


Dilwyn


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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Ade Vickers
Rich Mellor wrote:

 I did speak to Peter Graf about this a couple of years ago - 
 and he said that [an SD card microdrive cart] would just be too expensive
a solution, 
 even if it were feasible.

I can see why that would be - there'd be some complex  high precision
engineering required, and you'd only sell a few dozen of them at best, even
if you could set the price at something the hobby world is likely to stand -
and after all that, how many QLs still have decently clean read heads, after
X miles of MDV cart has passed through them.

IMHO, a far better - and much easier - approach would be to make an SD card
drive which plugged into the microdrive expansion slot  appeared as
MDV3,4,etc. I can't imagine the logic is that difficult, and I suspect an
Arduino could bit-bash it with ease. Not sure if that's a new idea of if
something already exists? (the QL-SD card project that Dilwyn mentioned?)

Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] Fw: query

2012-04-13 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Norman Dunbar wrote:
 Mind you, it shows how well Marcel has done with QPC when it just works
 and just works in a manner that makes me think it's still QDOS. Ditto 
 for SMSQ/e of course!

Actually I hope it works much better than QDOS ;) The SBASIC command
line history in SMSQ/E is something I'm particularly proud of and
wouldn't want to live without anymore (yes, I know about the HISTORY
extension for QDOS).

Marcel

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