Re: [Ql-Users] Punk chew asian.

2013-03-23 Thread George Gwilt

On 23 Mar 2013, at 16:33, Geoff Wicks wrote:

> 
> This thread is reminiscent of Private Eye. They used to have a section on 
> their letters pages "Pendants Corner".
> 
> Then a pedant complained that it should be "Pedant's Corner".
> 
> Then another pedant corrected the previous pedant saying it should be 
> "Pedants' Corner".
> 
> The correspondence went on for some weeks before being solved by Private Eye, 
> who now call it "Pedantry Corner".

Are you a pedant scorner?

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] Punk chew asian.

2013-03-23 Thread Geoff Wicks



--
From: "John Taylor" 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:39 PM
To: 
Subject: [Ql-Users] Punk chew asian.


Now I am happy to hand this board back to the QL Pedants



This thread is reminiscent of Private Eye. They used to have a section on 
their letters pages "Pendants Corner".


Then a pedant complained that it should be "Pedant's Corner".

Then another pedant corrected the previous pedant saying it should be 
"Pedants' Corner".


The correspondence went on for some weeks before being solved by Private 
Eye, who now call it "Pedantry Corner".


Best Wishes,



Geoff 



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[Ql-Users] RE Grammer,

2013-03-23 Thread paul

Oft times the 'spoken word' sees word usage differ compared to
the 'written' word.

This CARRIES over to the informal language applied to this form
of verbal exchange in My Humble opinion.

ERGO, what the brain wants to speak ends up what the send button
causes to spew forth into the wilds of electronic communications.

Error OR No Error, the attempt to reach out should be lauded more
then the mannor of the expression.


--
Paul Holmgren
Mine: 2 57 300-C's in Indy
Hers: 05 PT GT R/T HO Stage 1
Hoosier Corps L#6
"The secret of freedom lies in educating people,
whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them
ignorant." Maximilien Robespierre 1758-1794
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

2013-03-23 Thread Dave Park
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:54 AM, David Tubbs  wrote:

> At 23:46 22/03/2013 +, you wrote:
>
>> >
>> >If contributors - no matter how correct they may be - choose to
>> 'publically'
>> >correct (even humiliate) contributors here [as I am unashamedly
>> attempting
>> >to do now] the excellent spirit we all usually enjoy will be spoiled and
>> >some would-be contributors will become/remain 'lurkers'.  We shall all be
>> >the poorer then.
>> >
>> >John in Wales
>> >
>>
>
> Oh dear, what a load of pomp.
>
> I have lurked for a shorter time than the rest of you, may be 8 years, but
> it didn't take me long to realise Tony is quite a pedant.
>
> If the group was not so precious about OT I would have chipped in earlier
> re Bill Waugh, I knew a namesake many years agowhen living in Geordie land.
> His name was pronounced as Billy Yuff. When Eviilyn published his diaries
> in the 60's I recall a cartoon, son asks father "what did you do in the
> war?".
>
> So why is Wii pronouncwd Wee ?
> What is a Wius ? like so many radii,
>
> Perhaps Wey aye is too Geordie.
>
> But back to the SUBJECT ! !
>
> Why are all these geeks so unwilling to change the subject heading ?
> A lurker knows that the real matter will have drifted off after about ten.
>
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I'm amazed we've got this far into the conversation without someone quoting
Monty Python, (either 'This parrot is dead!' or the Roman grammar scene
from 'Life of Brian').

Not only does spelling, bunktuation, grammar and emphasis have regional
variation; it also has variation through time. This is so severe that the
powers that be have to continuously publish updated versions of the
publishing style manuals. I was taught, for example, that commas were not
to be sprinkled liberally into sentences as if there were a European Comma
Mountain. No, they should be used cautiously. They should give rise to a
pause in the flow of a spoken voice. When used in pairs, if the text
between the pair of commas was deleted it should not change the meaning of
the sentence. It was very hard for me to understand that the rules I was
taught were more restrictive than the norm. Now, I am burning off the comma
supply as if the expiry date was coming up.

To those who to struggle with ambiguity in communications with others, I
say this: you're not right. You're not wrong either. They might be wrong,
or they might simply have a more fluid and carefree grasp of English.
QL-Users is not a classic tome to be passed down through the ages; some
great work of literature. It is a string of sometimes-hastily crafted notes
passed back and forth under the school desk.

The many quips over the years about typos in QL Today did something to make
the magazine more personal and human. These were not highly trained authors
practicing their craft. They were QLers helping a fellow user. Which is,
interestingly, also the primary purpose of this list.

-- 
Dave Park
Sandy Electronics, LLC
d...@sinclairql.com
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[Ql-Users] Punk chew asian.

2013-03-23 Thread John Taylor
I was surprised that Lynn Truss did not include this one.

A woman without her man, is nothing.
A woman, without her, man is nothing.

Now I am happy to hand this board back to the QL Pedants

John Taylor.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

2013-03-23 Thread David Tubbs

At 23:46 22/03/2013 +, you wrote:

>
>If contributors - no matter how correct they may be - choose to 
'publically'

>correct (even humiliate) contributors here [as I am unashamedly attempting
>to do now] the excellent spirit we all usually enjoy will be spoiled and
>some would-be contributors will become/remain 'lurkers'.  We shall all be
>the poorer then.
>
>John in Wales
>


Oh dear, what a load of pomp.

I have lurked for a shorter time than the rest of you, may be 8 years, but 
it didn't take me long to realise Tony is quite a pedant.


If the group was not so precious about OT I would have chipped in earlier 
re Bill Waugh, I knew a namesake many years agowhen living in Geordie land. 
His name was pronounced as Billy Yuff. When Eviilyn published his diaries 
in the 60's I recall a cartoon, son asks father "what did you do in the war?".


So why is Wii pronouncwd Wee ?
What is a Wius ? like so many radii,

Perhaps Wey aye is too Geordie.

But back to the SUBJECT ! !

Why are all these geeks so unwilling to change the subject heading ?
A lurker knows that the real matter will have drifted off after about ten.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today

2013-03-23 Thread George Gwilt

On 22 Mar 2013, at 23:46, Billy wrote:

> poorer and fewer perhaps
> he he
> 
> all the best Bill
> Sent from my ASUS Pad

and lesser?

A lesser mortal

(George)
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