Re: [Ql-Users] R: QLis30 programme
- Original Message - From: Davide Santachiara d.santachi...@libero.it To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 10:20 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] R: QLis30 programme Dear Geoff, Indeed the last QL event in Italy (2008) has been a rendez-vous between QL enthusiasts (active and non active) which was held in the company for which I work. That means the cost was zero besides for travels and a lunch event which was of course also one of the reasons for the people to join again from different parts of Italy. I agree that even if the event was attended by a relatively low number of people it has been very interesting and it was very nice to have the telecon with Daniele Terdina in the US. Anybody interested could check the report at this address: http://www.sinclairql.it/meeting2008eng.pdf It is not unlikely we will organize a similar event sometimes in Spring 2014. Best regards Davide I'm not sure which country is preferred to hold an event but I could not justify the expense of travelling outside UK at the moment. If to be held in UK what about seeing if something could be done in co-operation with The National Museum of Computing http://www.tnmoc.org, perhaps at their place in Bletchley Park? One advantage is that there would be plenty of other computing history, aside from the QL, to attract visitors. I've been meaning to make another visit to Bletchley Park for ages, so a one-day QL event there would certainly coax me out of my armchair. Ian. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] R: QLis30 programme
On 03/11/2013 16:51, Ian Pine wrote: I'm not sure which country is preferred to hold an event but I could not justify the expense of travelling outside UK at the moment. If to be held in UK what about seeing if something could be done in co-operation with The National Museum of Computing http://www.tnmoc.org, perhaps at their place in Bletchley Park? One advantage is that there would be plenty of other computing history, aside from the QL, to attract visitors. I've been meaning to make another visit to Bletchley Park for ages, so a one-day QL event there would certainly coax me out of my armchair. Ian. I hope I have not caused confusion. If there is an event it would be a UK event. My personal opinion is that there is no point in having a traditonal Quanta show. They are burnt out and are of no interest to the members. Last year's show at Manchester was the worst I have ever attended. Two days with just two presentations both on the Sunday. Scarcely any mixing and badly attended presentations. I had the impression that some people were only there because they felt they had to be and just stayed at their tables doing their own thing. At the end of the show the committee had a tut tut session and asked how we could approve attendance. They came up with a brilliant solution for this year - a carbon copy of last year! And then Sarah grumbles why attendance was bad and screams APATHY in the Quanta Magazine. (Although she did spare us the capital letters this year.) We have to break with this pattern. That's why I referred to shows abroad as possible models. Let's stop having the obsession with numbers and instead look at the quality of the event. I don't know whether Bletchley Park would be financially feasible, but I like the idea of combining some form of social activity with the business. It would also get us back nearer to the South of England. No problem with day travel for the commitee - Bletchley is on the West Coast Line which also serves the small village of Manchester. The venue is 300 metres from the station, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] R: R: QLis30 programme
Dear Geoff, Ian, Of course with my email I had no intention whatsoever to propose an event in Italy. The last international meeting was held here in 2003 and the boundary conditions for its organization were already at the limit 10 years ago. I just wanted to provide a feedback on the way we organized the last event knowing that we would have had a limited attendance. Best regards Davide -Messaggio originale- Da: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] Per conto di Geoff Wicks Inviato: domenica 3 novembre 2013 21:04 A: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Oggetto: Re: [Ql-Users] R: QLis30 programme On 03/11/2013 16:51, Ian Pine wrote: I'm not sure which country is preferred to hold an event but I could not justify the expense of travelling outside UK at the moment. If to be held in UK what about seeing if something could be done in co-operation with The National Museum of Computing http://www.tnmoc.org, perhaps at their place in Bletchley Park? One advantage is that there would be plenty of other computing history, aside from the QL, to attract visitors. I've been meaning to make another visit to Bletchley Park for ages, so a one-day QL event there would certainly coax me out of my armchair. Ian. I hope I have not caused confusion. If there is an event it would be a UK event. My personal opinion is that there is no point in having a traditonal Quanta show. They are burnt out and are of no interest to the members. Last year's show at Manchester was the worst I have ever attended. Two days with just two presentations both on the Sunday. Scarcely any mixing and badly attended presentations. I had the impression that some people were only there because they felt they had to be and just stayed at their tables doing their own thing. At the end of the show the committee had a tut tut session and asked how we could approve attendance. They came up with a brilliant solution for this year - a carbon copy of last year! And then Sarah grumbles why attendance was bad and screams APATHY in the Quanta Magazine. (Although she did spare us the capital letters this year.) We have to break with this pattern. That's why I referred to shows abroad as possible models. Let's stop having the obsession with numbers and instead look at the quality of the event. I don't know whether Bletchley Park would be financially feasible, but I like the idea of combining some form of social activity with the business. It would also get us back nearer to the South of England. No problem with day travel for the commitee - Bletchley is on the West Coast Line which also serves the small village of Manchester. The venue is 300 metres from the station, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm