Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread John Gilpin


On 11/11/2013 19:54, Geoff Wicks wrote:

On 11/11/2013 19:14, Derek Stewart wrote:

On 10/11/13 16:57, Geoff Wicks wrote:

On 09/11/2013 20:27, Derek Stewart wrote:

On 09/11/13 16:21, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Evening all,

new job, no time for hardly anything at the moment, so a serious 
delay

in replying.

In the event of there being a QL is 30 event, in the UK or abroad, 
it is

highly unlikely that I would attend.

Cheers,
Norm.


Hi,

Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!

Best Wishes,


Geoff
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Please do not be silly...



I am not being silly. You are the one that's being silly.

Someone has to organise a UK show and Quanta has refused to do it,

Best wishes,


Geoff

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Hey, Hang on Geoff,

I cannot find any record of QUANTA "refusing to organise a UK show" - ever.

Who's organised the AGM weekend for the past decade or so?

If QUANTA have failed to organise the right TYPE of event, then that's a 
different issue. It hasn't been for the want of asking for someone else 
(or some other sub-group) to put on a suitable event that QUANTA can use 
to hold their AGM at.


I seem to recall that it was you who condemned one of the very few other 
offers of help as "unsuitable venue" - a point that the QUANTA Committee 
had to agree with after receiving your report.


Another occasion of  "You die if you do and you die if you don't" I think!!

Can YOU get information from the QUANTA Membership regarding just what 
they do want?


Regards to all,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary.



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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Petri Pellinen
I would be very tempted to come over for a QL30 event in Edinburgh.

/Petri



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM, jms1  wrote:

> SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in
> Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.
>
> Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent
> and Britain?
>
> Who would come?
>
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Richard Mellor t/as RWAP Services
On Mon, November 11, 2013 8:54 pm, Tobias Fröschle wrote:
>
> Am 11.11.2013 um 21:00 schrieb Peter Graf:
>
>>> SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in
>>> Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.
>>>
>>> Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent
>>> and Britain?
>>>
>>> Who would come?
>>
>> QL is 30 in Scotland sounds cool :) I would try to come.
>>
>> Peter
>
> I might as well - It's way too long I have not been there.
>
> Tobias
>

Actually, it might be a good idea - but the main issue is whether speakers
would be willing to travel!

Rich Mellor
www.rwapsoftware.co.uk
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Tobias Fröschle

Am 11.11.2013 um 21:00 schrieb Peter Graf:

>> SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in 
>> Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.
>> 
>> Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent 
>> and Britain?
>> 
>> Who would come?
> 
> QL is 30 in Scotland sounds cool :) I would try to come.
> 
> Peter

I might as well - It's way too long I have not been there.

Tobias

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Peter Graf
> SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in 
> Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.
> 
> Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent 
> and Britain?
> 
> Who would come?

QL is 30 in Scotland sounds cool :) I would try to come.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Geoff Wicks

On 11/11/2013 19:14, Derek Stewart wrote:

On 10/11/13 16:57, Geoff Wicks wrote:

On 09/11/2013 20:27, Derek Stewart wrote:

On 09/11/13 16:21, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Evening all,

new job, no time for hardly anything at the moment, so a serious delay
in replying.

In the event of there being a QL is 30 event, in the UK or abroad, 
it is

highly unlikely that I would attend.

Cheers,
Norm.


Hi,

Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!

Best Wishes,


Geoff
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Please do not be silly...



I am not being silly. You are the one that's being silly.

Someone has to organise a UK show and Quanta has refused to do it,

Best wishes,


Geoff

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones



Quanta workshops: probably about 20 people. Based on committee members,
local NEMQLUG group members and a small number who travelled from
further afield.



Thanks Dilwyn. This is for UK events, right?

Yes.

Dilwyn


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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Derek Stewart

On 10/11/13 16:57, Geoff Wicks wrote:

On 09/11/2013 20:27, Derek Stewart wrote:

On 09/11/13 16:21, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Evening all,

new job, no time for hardly anything at the moment, so a serious delay
in replying.

In the event of there being a QL is 30 event, in the UK or abroad, it is
highly unlikely that I would attend.

Cheers,
Norm.


Hi,

Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!

Best Wishes,


Geoff
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Please do not be silly...


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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Ralf Reköndt
I would prefer Eindhoven. Ok, there were the best venues of my my QL-Life, 
my fault ;-). But I think, it would be best for all (except Sjef...;-)) to 
have a place to travel.


Cheers---Ralf


- Original Message - 
From: "jms1"


SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in 
Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.


Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent 
and Britain?


Who would come? 


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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread jms1
SQLUG could probably find a location and maybe pay for the hall in 
Edinburgh or even possibly Glasgow.


Would be somewhere different and attract people both from the continent 
and Britain?


Who would come?


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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Geoff Wicks

On 11/11/2013 15:27, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:

Hi,


Then let's be serious. What is the minimum number you would want at a
continental show to ensure its viability?


Actually, none. I just want to get a feel for the number that *might* 
come. Suppose someone were to organize something. Would it make sense 
to organise a location that can hold 20 people? 30? 100? etc


I'm quite aware that any number anyone can give is highly speculative, 
but at least I'd get a feel of what one might expect.



Personally I would see nothing wrong with an attendance as low as 12.
With the type of people who would be likely to attend a continental show
you are likely to get a good cross fertilisation of ideas that will,
either directly or indirectly, benefit the entire QL community.


Ah yes, quality not quantity...:-)

Thanks for your input!


I am suprised that so far no one has referred to the numbers attending 
the 25 year Lucerne show. I believe  about 20 people attended.


I am not sure that the Quanta attendance figures in their present form 
are  helpful, so a little amplification. As far as I can tell of the 
people who have recently attended a Quanta show only four have ever been 
to a continental event.  There is a complication that attendees at 
Quanta shows represent only about one twentieth of the UK QL community 
and a further complication that there have been no UK shows in the south 
for over 10 years. Thus the number of potential UK attendees is probably 
higher than 4, but I suspect you could still count the total on your 
fingers,


Best Wishes,


Geoff



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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,


Then let's be serious. What is the minimum number you would want at a
continental show to ensure its viability?


Actually, none. I just want to get a feel for the number that *might* 
come. Suppose someone were to organize something. Would it make sense to 
organise a location that can hold 20 people? 30? 100? etc


I'm quite aware that any number anyone can give is highly speculative, 
but at least I'd get a feel of what one might expect.



Personally I would see nothing wrong with an attendance as low as 12.
With the type of people who would be likely to attend a continental show
you are likely to get a good cross fertilisation of ideas that will,
either directly or indirectly, benefit the entire QL community.


Ah yes, quality not quantity...:-)

Thanks for your input!

Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Geoff Wicks

On 11/11/2013 07:53, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:

Hi,


Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!


Let's not get sidetracked.

I'd like to repeat my earlier question : can anyone guestimate how 
many people would attend? What about the last 6 or 7 shows, either in 
the UK or abroad : how many people came (roughly?).


Then let's be serious. What is the minimum number you would want at a 
continental show to ensure its viability?
Personally I would see nothing wrong with an attendance as low as 12. 
With the type of people who would be likely to attend a continental show 
you are likely to get a good cross fertilisation of ideas that will, 
either directly or indirectly, benefit the entire QL community.


Unfortunately we cannot say the same about the UK because, unlike the 
continent, there is no experience of running small scale shows,


Best Wishes,


Geoff

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread John Gilpin

Hi Wolfgang,

Over the past few years the attendance at the QUANTA events (2-day 
workshop, Evening dinner, and Annual General Meeting - held in 
Manchester) the average attendance -including Committee Members, has 
been about 17.


Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary & Treasurer.



On 11/11/2013 07:53, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:

Hi,


Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!


Let's not get sidetracked.

I'd like to repeat my earlier question : can anyone guestimate how 
many people would attend? What about the last 6 or 7 shows, either in 
the UK or abroad : how many people came (roughly?).



Wolfgang

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[Ql-Users] QL Today + DVD - even more re-prints (but that's the last chance)!

2013-11-11 Thread Jochen Merz
Just a quick info: I got more inquiries over the weekend for more 
re-prints. I am very glad to see there is so much interest in the

QL, in QL Today and QPC etc. ... I guess we all can take this as
a kind of compliment.

I don't want to turn anybody down, but this time it will be the final 
re-print ... definitely. So please spread the word wherever you can:
if there's interest in QL Today Volume 17 (all 4 issues) together with 
the Bonus DVD including FREE FULL QPC2 V4, then it is time to order NOW!


As all the previous re-prints are gone, I will do a (really)
final print-run. I have enabled orders for the next week: 
http://smsq.j-m-s.com/


I will collect orders, have the issues printed next week and ship 
everything the following week.


Best regardsJochen


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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz

Hi,

Quanta workshops: probably about 20 people. Based on committee members,
local NEMQLUG group members and a small number who travelled from
further afield.



Thanks Dilwyn. This is for UK events, right?



> as for estimations on how many people attend QL meetings, we had 6 at
> German QL meeting yesterday. The meeting was local and not widely
> announced. Nevertheless it took 7 hours and there was so much
> activity, that we ran out of time. I have not seen such a busy
> meeting since the Q40 prototype meeting with Tony Tebby in Eindhoven
> 1997.
>
>

Thanks Peter, all the people who attended were local, right?


Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Peter
Hi all,

as for estimations on how many people attend QL meetings, we had 6 at the 
German QL meeting yesterday. The meeting was local and not widely 
announced. Nevertheless it took 7 hours and there was so much activity, 
that we ran out of time. I have not seen such a busy meeting since the Q40 
prototype meeting with Tony Tebby in Eindhoven 1997.

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

2013-11-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Quanta workshops: probably about 20 people. Based on committee members, 
local NEMQLUG group members and a small number who travelled from further 
afield.


Hence why Rich is making the effort to try to organise something so 
different for next year, to try to improve attendance. Hopefully, if he can 
get people talking about it now, he can succeed in making it a much better 
attended event than a Quanta workshop.


Dilwyn

-Original Message- 
From: Wolfgang Lenerz

Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:53 AM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

Hi,


Why not have a QL Show in each country and we support each other...


How very kind of you to offer to organise and finance the UK event!


Let's not get sidetracked.

I'd like to repeat my earlier question : can anyone guestimate how many
people would attend? What about the last 6 or 7 shows, either in the UK
or abroad : how many people came (roughly?).


Wolfgang

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