Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Derek Stewart


On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote:

The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
scource of smsq and smsqe.

Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
by adding nulls after.

I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
directory smsq(e).bin
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Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard 
coded, is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by 
selecting the Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage 
options for QXL.WIN files.


I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a 
configuration file as well.


As I said Read The Fine Manual

Regards,

Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Derek Stewart

Kooks like Attachments are not allowed on the list.

Regards,

Derek

On 19/07/15 09:12, Derek Stewart wrote:


On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote:

The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
scource of smsq and smsqe.

Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
by adding nulls after.

I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
directory smsq(e).bin
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Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard
coded, is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by
selecting the Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage
options for QXL.WIN files.

I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a
configuration file as well.

As I said Read The Fine Manual

Regards,

Derek
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Wolf

Good grief, whatever gave you that impression?
You can freely choose where your qxl.win file should lie, of course!
Wolfgang



On 07/18/2015 11:36 PM, jms1 wrote:

The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
scource of smsq and smsqe.

Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
by adding nulls after.

I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
directory smsq(e).bin
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle

 Am 19.07.2015 um 10:12 schrieb Derek Stewart de...@q40.de:
 
 
 On 18/07/15 22:36, jms1 wrote:
 The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
 scource of smsq and smsqe.
 
 Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
 by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
 by adding nulls after.
 
 I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
 directory smsq(e).bin
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 Please the attached screen shots, the QPC2 Device storage is not hard coded, 
 is is configurable from the main configuration screen, by selecting the 
 Devices option, see QPC2 Devices.png for QPC2 storage options for QXL.WIN 
 files.
 
 I doubt that QPC1 had the QXL.WIN hard coded either, there was a 
 configuration file as well.
 
 As I said Read The Fine Manual
 
 Regards,
 
 Derek

Derek,
note the QL mailing list is one of the old-fashioned institutions that slice 
off any attachment before distribution…..

Tobias

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[Ql-Users] SMSQmulator 2.09

2015-07-19 Thread Wolf

Hi all,

Smsqmulator 2.09 is out.

It's a bugfix release, you should upgrade.

Have fun,

Wolfgang


On 07/19/2015 10:39 AM, Wolf wrote:

Good grief, whatever gave you that impression?
You can freely choose where your qxl.win file should lie, of course!
Wolfgang



On 07/18/2015 11:36 PM, jms1 wrote:

The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
scource of smsq and smsqe.

Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
by adding nulls after.

I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
directory smsq(e).bin
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[Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Grunditz
Hi

I am trying to relearn M68K assembler using the excellent book that
was posted to this list.

The problem I have now is that I can't get gwass to work. It starts
,but as soon as I try to do something (quit or assemble) it just
hangs. I only have access to SMSQmulator right now, but it should work
with that , right?

Another question is which debugger / monitor I should use.

Br

Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle

 Am 19.07.2015 um 13:03 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi
 
 I am trying to relearn M68K assembler using the excellent book that
 was posted to this list.
 
 The problem I have now is that I can't get gwass to work. It starts
 ,but as soon as I try to do something (quit or assemble) it just
 hangs. I only have access to SMSQmulator right now, but it should work
 with that , right?
 
 Another question is which debugger / monitor I should use.
 

Michael,
GWASS is great, but expects a 68020 CPU - I pretty much doubt that SMSQmulator 
is emulating one of those. (But that would somewhat hint that SMSQmulator 
advertises the wrong CPU, then?). It works well on QPC2 (which emulates kind of 
a 68010), though.

There is a stripped-down GWASS version for 68000 CPUs, named GWASL. That one 
should work, also on the black box.

The QMAC assembler, which used to be the standard assembler for professional 
software development back in the days, should also run on SMSQmulator (or 
rather, any QL) and is now free.

With regards to a Monitor: ComputerOne Monitor is by far the best of the freely 
available ones, if you can get hold of a JMon or QMON copy (Jump from Tony 
Tebby) somewhere, those are great as well. C1M used to be available in a 
„professional version“ that could even do symbolic debugging, but that seems to 
be lost somehow(?).

All of the above can be had from Dillwyn’s site.

Tobias

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones

A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk.

When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his 
updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then 
adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime,
I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't 
remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to hard 
disk to work.


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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Grunditz

 I am trying to use C1M , but ends up in this:

 http://www.update.uu.se/~micken/c1m.png

 Perhaps I am missing something, do I need to do a specify a memory
 start address in the assembler source code?

Sorry for the noise, but C1M is working , I just didn't update the
REGS display.. I thought that would update after a go was issued. So
good to go! This will be fun.

Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 19 July 2015 at 18:21, Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com wrote:

 GWASL (and GWASS, BTW) needs  to be configured to know where its support 
 files are located. You need to download the QJump standard config program 
 („config“, and you’re going to need that for quite some other programs as 
 well) and then execute it against GWASL.


 Ah ok. I remember I used something with a pointer interface for
 configs. I completely forgot about the config blocks.

Hi again,

I am trying to use C1M , but ends up in this:

http://www.update.uu.se/~micken/c1m.png

Perhaps I am missing something, do I need to do a specify a memory
start address in the assembler source code?
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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle

 Am 19.07.2015 um 17:26 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com:
 
 On 19 July 2015 at 13:15, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de 
 wrote:
 
 Am 19.07.2015 um 13:03 schrieb Michael Grunditz 
 michael.grund...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi
 
 I am trying to relearn M68K assembler using the excellent book that
 was posted to this list.
 
 The problem I have now is that I can't get gwass to work. It starts
 ,but as soon as I try to do something (quit or assemble) it just
 hangs. I only have access to SMSQmulator right now, but it should work
 with that , right?
 
 Another question is which debugger / monitor I should use.
 
 
 Michael,
 GWASS is great, but expects a 68020 CPU - I pretty much doubt that 
 SMSQmulator is emulating one of those. (But that would somewhat hint that 
 SMSQmulator advertises the wrong CPU, then?). It works well on QPC2 (which 
 emulates kind of a 68010), though.
 
 There is a stripped-down GWASS version for 68000 CPUs, named GWASL. That one 
 should work, also on the black box.
 
 I have tried GWASL now and it tells me:
 EQU_SYM file not found
 
 I have extracted the files into win1_gwasl_ and start the assembler
 with ex win1_gwasl_gwasl_bin
 
 Thanks for the suggestions about debuggers.
 
 Michael

GWASL (and GWASS, BTW) needs  to be configured to know where its support files 
are located. You need to download the QJump standard config program („config“, 
and you’re going to need that for quite some other programs as well) and then 
execute it against GWASL.

Tobias


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Geoff Wicks

On 19/07/2015 09:39, Wolf wrote:

Good grief, whatever gave you that impression?
You can freely choose where your qxl.win file should lie, of course!
Wolfgang



On 07/18/2015 11:36 PM, jms1 wrote:

The real problem is the locations for the win1 to 8 is hard coded in the
scource of smsq and smsqe.

Either alter the source code, assembling or hack smsq.bin or smsqe.bin
by removing the drive locations,  and keeping the file the same length
by adding nulls after.

I have done this for years and the win files finish in the same
directory smsq(e).bin
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A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk.

When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of 
his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then 
adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime,


Best wishes,


Geoff
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[Ql-Users] Assembly eMagazine - Issue 2, now available.

2015-07-19 Thread Norman Dunbar


Finally!

http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_002/Assembly_Language_002.pdf


Enjoy.

Cheers,
Norm.
--
Norman Dunbar
Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
27a Lidget Hill
Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7LG

Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones



Well, I have som win files lying on the SAN’s network drives. That makes 
it

easy to exchange files between QPC2s running on different machines.

Tobias


Yes, this is very useful that QPC2 lets you assign a network path for a 
QXL.WIN
Dilwyn 


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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Grunditz

 GWASL (and GWASS, BTW) needs  to be configured to know where its support 
 files are located. You need to download the QJump standard config program 
 („config“, and you’re going to need that for quite some other programs as 
 well) and then execute it against GWASL.


Ah ok. I remember I used something with a pointer interface for
configs. I completely forgot about the config blocks.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread John Gilpin
I have a .win file on a pen-stick which I use for storing the NEMQLUG 
Games and all I do is configure the QPC2 devices page where Win1_ is set 
to f:\QT10.Win where f is the drive letter given to the Pen-Stick, QT10 
is the name I have chosen for a 10Mb .win file and this worked first 
time and every time since (although if I try to run it on my Desktop PC 
I have change the drive letter allocated to the Pen-Stick as this may 
vary on different PCs or Laptops etc. Also by adding a full version of 
QPC2 to the pen-Stick, the whole programme is in one place.


Kind Regards,

John Gilpin.
QUANTA Membership Secretary
and QUANTA Treasurer
membership @quanta.org.uk
treasurer @quanta.org.uk




On 19/07/2015 18:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk.

When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of 
his updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and 
then adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime,
I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't 
remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to 
hard disk to work.


Dilwyn
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Re: [Ql-Users] gwass , SMSQmulator

2015-07-19 Thread Michael Grunditz
On 19 July 2015 at 13:15, Tobias Fröschle tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote:

 Am 19.07.2015 um 13:03 schrieb Michael Grunditz michael.grund...@gmail.com:

 Hi

 I am trying to relearn M68K assembler using the excellent book that
 was posted to this list.

 The problem I have now is that I can't get gwass to work. It starts
 ,but as soon as I try to do something (quit or assemble) it just
 hangs. I only have access to SMSQmulator right now, but it should work
 with that , right?

 Another question is which debugger / monitor I should use.


 Michael,
 GWASS is great, but expects a 68020 CPU - I pretty much doubt that 
 SMSQmulator is emulating one of those. (But that would somewhat hint that 
 SMSQmulator advertises the wrong CPU, then?). It works well on QPC2 (which 
 emulates kind of a 68010), though.

 There is a stripped-down GWASS version for 68000 CPUs, named GWASL. That one 
 should work, also on the black box.

I have tried GWASL now and it tells me:
EQU_SYM file not found

I have extracted the files into win1_gwasl_ and start the assembler
with ex win1_gwasl_gwasl_bin

Thanks for the suggestions about debuggers.

Michael
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 and Win 8

2015-07-19 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Well, I have som win files lying on the SAN’s network drives. That makes it 
easy to exchange files between QPC2s running on different machines.

Tobias

 Am 19.07.2015 um 19:45 schrieb John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.com:
 
 I have a .win file on a pen-stick which I use for storing the NEMQLUG Games 
 and all I do is configure the QPC2 devices page where Win1_ is set to 
 f:\QT10.Win where f is the drive letter given to the Pen-Stick, QT10 is the 
 name I have chosen for a 10Mb .win file and this worked first time and every 
 time since (although if I try to run it on my Desktop PC I have change the 
 drive letter allocated to the Pen-Stick as this may vary on different PCs or 
 Laptops etc. Also by adding a full version of QPC2 to the pen-Stick, the 
 whole programme is in one place.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 John Gilpin.
 QUANTA Membership Secretary
 and QUANTA Treasurer
 membership @quanta.org.uk
 treasurer @quanta.org.uk
 
 
 
 
 On 19/07/2015 18:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 A qxl.win file doesn't even have to be on a hard disk.
 
 When Roger Godley was doing his GD Xchange upgrade he sent me each of his 
 updates on a small qxl.win file. I saved them to pen memory and then 
 adjusted the QPC2 device list temporarily at runtime,
 I remember seeing a small QXL.WIN (1MB?) on a floppy disk, but can't 
 remember if it could be used from a floppy disk or had to be copied to hard 
 disk to work.
 
 Dilwyn
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