Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Wolf via Ql-Users
Hi, If I understand the circumstances correctly, I would handle the chicken and egg problem differently. The circumstances are that you're trying to develop a BOOT program, which loads a certain set of extensions. You want to avoid loading the extensions again if the BOOT program is run

Re: [Ql-Users] Launchpad now freeware

2017-08-19 Thread Darren Branagh via Ql-Users
What All that revenue Q-Celt are losing now :-) Darren Branagh Sent from My Android Phone. On 19 Aug 2017 23:40, "Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users" wrote: > My Launchpad software is now available to download as freeware from my > website. > > Both version 1 (for older

[Ql-Users] Launchpad now freeware

2017-08-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
My Launchpad software is now available to download as freeware from my website. Both version 1 (for older systems) and Launchpad 2 (for WMAN 2 systems) are available. Go to the Launchpad page to download it - read the description then click on the link to the Download page.

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
I agree, Derek, leaving TK_VER$ unaltered would be a better idea. Thus, there is less chance of any change upsetting existing programs, while new programs can use the new keyword. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Derek via Ql-Users Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 5:23 PM To:

[Ql-Users] Q-Dock now freeware

2017-08-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
I'm pleased to announce that my Q-Dock docking station software for Window Manager 2 systems has now been made freeware and is available to download from its own page on my website, where you can find a lot of information about it, screen dumps, and downloads. The manual is also available as a

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Derek via Ql-Users
Hi George, I proposed in th QL Forum adding a S or Q in the TK_VER$. But your proposed new Function sounds a good idea. RegardsDerek Original message From: gdgqler--- via Ql-Users Date: 19/08/2017 13:12 (GMT+00:00) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc:

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Derek via Ql-Users
Hi, The link works for me, even on an android tablet... Regards, Derek Original message From: Per Witte via Ql-Users Date: 19/08/2017 13:13 (GMT+00:00) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Cc: Per Witte Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Per Witte via Ql-Users
Hi Michael, I dont know why it doesnt work for you. I just clicked on the link now and it works for me. Try copying the link and pasting it in your browser. The article is about searching for specific keywords in SuperBASIC, SBASIC and compiled BASIC without the use of an external toolkit. Per PS

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread gdgqler--- via Ql-Users
> On 19 Aug 2017, at 09:21, gdgqler--- via Ql-Users > wrote: > > I would think it possible to have TK_VER$ print “TK”, “SMS” or “REM” after > the version number. Is this what people would like? It might be better to have a new keyword, TK_TYPE$, which would return

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Per Witte via Ql-Users
Your approach is commendable as an option for those who dont load a Turbo toolkit by default, but for the rest of us it doesnt do much good. Presumably, the REM version is based on the generic version which is somewhat less optimal under SMSQ/E? And Turbo-compiled tasks will use the incorporated

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Bulford via Ql-Users
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 21:08:31, Per Witte wrote: > Thats a nice solution. Not sufficient for all manner of keywords, though. A > more general solution for checking for relevant toolkits in boot programs, > without having to load a toolkit to do so can be found

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread Dilwyn Jones via Ql-Users
It makes sense to be able to identify which version of Turbo Toolkit is present. There would be two ways, one is to replace the period with a letter to identify which toolkit version, this maintains the length of the version string. However, some programs make explicit tests on the version

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread gdgqler--- via Ql-Users
> On 17 Aug 2017, at 10:25, Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users > wrote: > >> There is a keyword: TK_VER$, but only returns the version of Turbo Toolkit, >> which is the same for the SMS and QDOS versions. I would think it possible to have TK_VER$ print “TK”, “SMS” or “REM”

Re: [Ql-Users] TURBO and testing it exists

2017-08-19 Thread George Gwilt via Ql-Users
> On 18 Aug 2017, at 17:38, Per Witte via Ql-Users > wrote: > > George, the question is relevant if you write programs intended for other > people: You cant be sure THEY will load Turbo. However, IMHO, any serious > Tinkerer should load Turbo as a matter of course. I