Re: [Ql-Users] found unused stuff

[Kenn Van Hauen via Ql-Users]

Thank you Paul for sharing here. Yes, I would be interested in buying the 
Aurora from you.

Please let me know how you’d like to proceed.

All my best,

Kenn

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> On 19 Oct 2019, at 01:54, paul via Ql-Users  wrote:
> 
> 
> While the mood is with me, I manage to get through a box or 3
> that has been tucked away for years.
> 
> Decided I could tackle the task once again the other day, and
> after the first box, settled for a smaller one as the last one today.
> 
> FOUND:  Knew I had the stuff, but a 'one of the top 10 life
> disasters' interrupted the using of these and I never returned
> to QL'ing like I used to.
> 
> 1:  Aurura COMPLETE, still in its padded envelope
> 2:  ROMdisq, Complete also.
> 
> Neither of these have been used once bought new.
> 
> Any market for these?
> 
> 
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> The history of liberty is a history of limitations
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Re: [Ql-Users] vDrive QL

[Kenn Van Hauen via Ql-Users]

Strange logic. I am pleased that Apple doesn’t say the same when they launch 
new iPhones!

Indeed, I am very grateful for a price-point that allows me to participate as 
an enthusiast...thank you Charles.

Kenn

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> On 24 Sep 2017, at 16:17, Dave Park via Ql-Users  
> wrote:
> 
> They all sold out in minutes, which means they were priced too low.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Kurt K via Ql-Users <
> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
> 
>> I checked the link for the vDriveQL and all sold out, sadly, hopefully
>> more will be available in the future.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 3:33 PM, RWAP Software via Ql-Users <
>> ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Charlie Ingley has now listed a batch of his vDriveQL units on
>> sellmyretro :
>>> 
>>> https://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/vdrive-ql-28715
>>> 
>>> He has not yet listed the vMap.
>>> 
>>> For those who have not come across this - the vDriveQL connects to the
>> QL microdrive expansion slot (and can be mounted in a ZX Microdrive case if
>> you like) and allows you to allocate microdrive image files to the QL
>> microdrive slots.
>>> 
>>> The vMap is an extra board which plugs into the microdrive connectors on
>> the QL motherboard and allows you to move the slots allocated to the
>> internal microdrive units, so it is then easy to (say) run a copy protected
>> game from a microdrive image file on an SD card mounted in the external
>> vDrive.
>>> 
>>> Rich Mellor RWAP Software www.rwapsoftware.co.uk www.sellmyretro.com
>>> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] email bounced back

[Kenn Van Hauen]

John,

Your e-mail prompted me to enquire why I haven’t recently received copies of 
the magazine? I didn’t receive the below mentioned e-mail either.

Many thanks,

Kenn

 On 27 Jun 2015, at 14:33, John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Hi all QLers,
 
 I recently sent out the eMag version of QUANTA Magazine and one of the 
 recipient's emails bounced back to me.
 
 Can anyone help me with a working email address for Philip Harvey-Smith?  The 
 address starting   afra AT aurigae.demon DOT co  DOT uk   is the one that 
 is not working.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 John Gilpin.
 QUANTA Membership Secretary
 and QUANTA Treasurer
 membership @quanta.org.uk
 treasurer @quanta.org.uk
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Sorry to hear the bad news. I have no suggestions to how you resolve the PC 
problem but given the urgency, if you have web access and your netbook 
supports, then I recommend using Prezi (prezi.com) to complete the presentation.

Hopefully when you then have the advantage of time, you'll be able to resolve 
the underlying PC problem.

Good luck.

Kenn

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 On 9 Oct 2014, at 12:39, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 
 After last night’s thunderstorms (it might be coincidence) my PC today is on 
 a real go-slow. No-go might be a better term for it.
 
 Continuous hard disk access for several minutes when you click on any icon in 
 a Windows program, starting a program takes 10 minutes or more, it took 
 nearly 5 minutes to type one of the paragraphs in this email.
 
 I can’t find a solution online other than the inevitable “reinstall 
 everything from scratch” which I know is a pathetic and unhelpful response 
 from people who try to help but usually have no understanding of the problem.
 
 I’ve switched off the anti-virus and backups temporarily, in case the 
 continuous hard disk activity is down to that (the last scan was clear). 
 Windows has been restarted with no change. Just one program (Windows Live 
 Mail) running, but the same no matter what’s running. Even QPC2 is slugged to 
 a crawl.
 
 Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity 
 slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the 
 lists shown in Task Manager for example.
 
 If I’m to complete a presentation for QL Is 30 I need to resolve this quickly 
 today.
 
 I wouldn’t normally ask something like this on this list, I used my netbook 
 (which is fine, so it’s not the wireless router [which shows little or no 
 traffic – so no major update in progress] or broadband for example) to search 
 online for any help, which was fruitless. I can’t use the netbook for the 
 presentation as the PC is too slow to transfer the large files to it to work 
 on.
 
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 pledge...

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Ditto

Sent from my iPhone

 On 7 Oct 2014, at 18:51, Petri Pellinen p...@iki.fi wrote:
 
 Good evening,
 
 I just sent 50% (£ 25.00) of my £50 pledge. Will follow up with the
 rest of the amount if necessary.
 
 Looking forward to meeting fellow QLers in Edinburgh.
 
 Kind regards,
 Petri
 
 On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:
 Hello all!
 
 The QL is 30 event is upon us and it is time for us to meet our pledge
 commitments. The good news is that the event was organized a lot more
 economically than was originally thought. For that reason, and allowing for
 the QUANTA match on donated funds, it is expected that we only need to
 raise HALF the amount we originally pledged.
 
 Here is a reminder of the pledges that were made:
 
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
 Jiří Doležal £ 50
 Kenn Van Hauen   £ 70
 
 TOTAL£500
 Quanta Match £500
 
 Available: £1,000
 
 I have forwarded £75 (50%) now, and if the 50% pledges fall short, I'll
 make an additional top up donation immediately after the event, when the
 donations have been tallied.
 
 Your donations need to be submitted to the following PayPal address:
 *treasu...@quanta.org.uk
 treasu...@quanta.org.uk*
 
 If anyone has an objection to using PayPal, you can email
 treasu...@quanta.org.uk and make an alternative arrangement.
 
 Thank you everyone for pledging!
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:
 
 Currently:
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
 Jiří Doležal £ 50
 Kenn Van Hauen   £ 70
 
 TOTAL£500
 Quanta Match £500
 
 Available: £1,000
 
 Now, who would like to organise an event? The risk is now very low. :)
 
 Dave
 Sandy Electronics
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Kenn Van Hauen vanha...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I am happy to contribute the remaining £70. Kenn
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Feb 2014, at 15:26, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:
 
 In light of this fabulous email from QUANTA, The pledge tally now
 stands at:
 
 Currently:
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
 Jiří Doležal £ 50

 TOTAL£430
 Quanta Match £430
 
 Available:   £860
 
 Thank you QUANTA and everyone else so far. Just £70 more and we'd hit
 £1000!
 
 Dave Park
 Sandy Electronics
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:35 AM, John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
 
 Further to your emails Re: [QL-Users] QLis30 pledge..., I have great
 pleasure in advising you as follows:
 
 At a meeting of the QUANTA Committee on Sunday 02/02/2014, the topic
 of a
 Workshop to celebrate QLis30 was discussed and it was decided that if,
 due
 to Rich Mellor's ill health, we (QUANTA) will not be able to support
 his
 venture in Cambridge, then we would like to add our name to the QLis30
 pledge such that we will match the fund  up to a maximum of £500. It
 was
 also decided that QUANTA may offer further support by attending the
 event
 to show a QUANTA presence.
 
 This came about after much discussion regarding QUANTA's willingness to
 support such an event and how much we should be prepared to spend in
 order
 to differentiate between over-spending and not wanting to support
 both
 of which have received some criticism of late on this list.
 
 As we do not continually monitor this email list, please address any
 further correspondence tocommit...@quanta.org.uk   - thanks.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 John Gilpin.
 QUANTA Treasurer.
 treasu...@quanta.org.uk mailto:treasu...@quanta.org.uk
 
 
 On 06/01/2014 19:23, Dave Park wrote:
 
 Hehe, ok. Thank you even more!
 
 Currently:
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
 
 TOTAL£380
 
 I think that is getting close to a good incentive for someone to
 organize
 a
 show, now.
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, extdgl42 externa...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com
 Sent: Jan 6, 2014 10:33 AM
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30

Re: [Ql-Users] Anybody heard from Sandy Electronics (Dave Park)

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Ian, I find myself in the same situation. Regards Kenn

Sent from my iPhone

 On 28 Jul 2014, at 19:17, Ian Burkinshaw ian.burkins...@btopenworld.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry to bring this up.
 
 But placed an order with Sandy Electronics two months ago, I have not 
 received the goods.
 
 I have placed an order before, with no problems.
 
 I have e-mailed Dave Park via two e-mail addresses, and no reply.
 
 So I feel I need to warn others. This is the last thing I wanted to do.
 
 However if I have missed something or something has happen to Dave then I am 
 very sorry.
 
 I guess I will have to write off £96
 
 Ian Burkinshaw
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Re: [Ql-Users] Sandy Electronics change of focus?

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Dave,

As I wrote to you after your presentation at the Italian QL meeting, I am very 
excited about your roadmap of products.

When I decided to dust off my QL 6 months ago after 25 years in the loft, it 
was really difficult and very expensive to source the necessary add-ons for my 
standard QL, for it to be of practical use in this age.

The fact that you are producing a new batch of Aurora cards, have the backplane 
and embedded power supply available, and can provide Minerva is simply 
excellent for someone in my position that needs to catch up.

As for your approach and rationale for SuperRAM - UltimIDE - UltraQ - QL2, 
it is thoroughly ambitious but it is also very well thought through as to how 
you are going to get there. In my humble opinion, this programme will 
future-proof QL interest for many years to come.   

If you have to make a priority decision then my vote would be to focus on the 
products that takes us forward and enhances the appeal of the QL. With that in 
mind, I think your grouping is about right and only you can decide where to 
draw the line.

Kind regards,

Kenn

On 30 May 2014, at 20:14, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have been struggling with some things here at Sandy recently, and I
 decided I need to make some changes.
 
 One of the problems I have is that I have outlined a clear path of products
 I know we can deliver over time, but I have also taken on a lot of side
 projects. The side projects do take up a lot of my time, but they also are
 consuming all the money. UltimIDE could have been produced twice as quickly
 if I was sitting on the funds to do it, instead of spending those funds
 also on many and varied side projects.
 
 Another aspect of this:
 ​ ​
 I have very limited space, and about half of my space is taken up with side
 projects. It has reached the point where I have no actual desk space to
 prototype or test on any more. My wife has asked me to move the QL system
 off the dining room table into my room and I just don't have the room to
 move it in!
 
 Removing all these other projects would free up much needed space and give
 me room to breathe and to be more organised with the remaining projects.
 
 For this reason, I am seriously considering slimming down operations to
 focus entirely on just a limited few projects. All other projects could be
 dropped, sold off at cost to recover the funds and pay to return samples
 and etc.
 
 Here's what
 ​ could​
 stay:
 Microdrive pads - until current batch runs out (I have just made a lifetime
 batch of 10,000)
 Minerva MK 1
 Aurora
 SuperRAM, UltimIDE, UltraQ, QL2
 Q-Regulator
 
 Here's what
 ​ would​
 get cut:
 Gold Card battery replacements (I w
 ​ould
 sell off the remaining prototypes)
 QL on a Disk (remaining stock w
 ​ould
 be sold off at lower prices)
 QL1.5
 Minerva MK II
 ZX Printer belt
 ZX80 case replacement
 Software projects
 
 Here's what I
 ​am
 
 ​un​
 decided on:
 A backplane relevant to current case/PSU designs
 ​Embedded p​
 ower supplies
 ​ - I have a batch.​
 
 
 I welcome feedback/discussion on the above. My mind isn't firmly made up. I
 just think that I am not serving my customers very well and that I really
 need to focus on only a few lines of products. Also, I do not like the
 feeling of living paycheck to paycheck over the hardware projects because
 of money being frittered away on side projects that don't add to the pool.
 
 What do you think?
 
 -- 
 Dave Park
 Sandy Electronics, LLC
 d...@sinclairql.com
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Meeting 2014 - Italy: LIVE

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Thank you Davide for arranging a very interesting Skype session earlier...I 
really enjoyed hearing Dave talks us through his exciting product roadmap.

Kind regards,

Kenn

On 18 May 2014, at 14:09, Davide Santachiara d.santachi...@libero.it wrote:

 
 Hi All,
 
 14 people are attending in Modena the Italian 2014 QL Meeting.
 
 Michele Perini is attending via Skype from Toronto, Dave Park from Texas.
 
 Anybody who would like to join via skype the international videoconference
 with presentation from Dave Park should join WITHOUT video (audio only) the
 skype address dtm-technologies
 
 Start time is slightly earlier than planned: 15:30 local time which is
 twenty minutes from now
 
 Best regards
 
 Davide
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 pledge...

[Kenn Van Hauen]

I am happy to contribute the remaining £70. Kenn

Sent from my iPhone

 On 4 Feb 2014, at 15:26, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:
 
 In light of this fabulous email from QUANTA, The pledge tally now stands at:
 
 Currently:
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
 Jiří Doležal £ 50
 
 TOTAL£430
 Quanta Match £430
 
 Available:   £860
 
 Thank you QUANTA and everyone else so far. Just £70 more and we'd hit £1000!
 
 Dave Park
 Sandy Electronics
 
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:35 AM, John Gilpin thegilp...@btinternet.comwrote:
 
 Further to your emails Re: [QL-Users] QLis30 pledge..., I have great
 pleasure in advising you as follows:
 
 At a meeting of the QUANTA Committee on Sunday 02/02/2014, the topic of a
 Workshop to celebrate QLis30 was discussed and it was decided that if, due
 to Rich Mellor's ill health, we (QUANTA) will not be able to support his
 venture in Cambridge, then we would like to add our name to the QLis30
 pledge such that we will match the fund  up to a maximum of £500. It was
 also decided that QUANTA may offer further support by attending the event
 to show a QUANTA presence.
 
 This came about after much discussion regarding QUANTA's willingness to
 support such an event and how much we should be prepared to spend in order
 to differentiate between over-spending and not wanting to support both
 of which have received some criticism of late on this list.
 
 As we do not continually monitor this email list, please address any
 further correspondence tocommit...@quanta.org.uk   - thanks.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 John Gilpin.
 QUANTA Treasurer.
 treasu...@quanta.org.uk mailto:treasu...@quanta.org.uk
 
 
 On 06/01/2014 19:23, Dave Park wrote:
 
 Hehe, ok. Thank you even more!
 
 Currently:
 Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150
 Mark Martin  £ 30
 Petri Pellinen   £ 50
 Doug L   £150
  
 TOTAL£380
 
 I think that is getting close to a good incentive for someone to organize
 a
 show, now.
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM, extdgl42 externa...@earthlink.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 From: Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com
 Sent: Jan 6, 2014 10:33 AM
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QLis30 pledge...
 
 Mark, Petri, Doug, THANK YOU!
 
 Doug, I translated it as £133, but I'd consider it generally understood
 that you'd PayPal $200 and they'd do the conversion at current exchange
 rates at that time, so it might be more or less.
 
 Current running total of pledges: £363
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:24 AM, DougL externa...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 USD200 let me xlateto pounds/xlate say tomorrow.
 
 Doug L. 37830 USA
 
 QL Foreverr
 Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Android phone
 
 Mark Martin storycraf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com
 wrote:
 
 I offer to sponsor £150 towards the cost of any organized 'QL is 30'
 show. If others would like to chip in a little, it could make a
 Kickstarter-style fund.
 
 *Conditions:* Event must be held between March 2014 and December
 2014,
 
 in a
 
 generally accessible location to QL users. This includes any
 traditional
 
 location like a scout hut, Eindhoven, etc. The Outer Hebrides or
 rural
 
 Romania probably won't count. The event must be properly open to the
 public, properly advertised, and what the members of this list
 consider
 
 'properly organised'. Event can be organised by an individual or a
 company.
 
 In the event of an individual or company combining with Quanta to run
 the
 
 event, the fund will be divided equally between them. The pledge
 will be
 
 paid towards costs of running the show, and will be sent to the
 organiser(s) by paypal four weeks before the organized event. In the
 circumstance the event is cancelled for *any* reason, the pledge(s)
 must be
 
 returned *immediately*.
 
 *List of pledges:*
 
 *Sandy Electronics / Dave Park£150*
 
 Mark Martin£30
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 Dave et al: let's increase that from USD200 to BP150; I had guessed that
 of the two the USD200 was greater. So, that should be BP380. I hope this
 doesn't clutter up the thread; I don't think so.
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD News

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Me as well please. Kenn

Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Dec 2013, at 10:01, Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Initially 2 for me too
 
 
 On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Ian Burkinshaw 
 ian.burkins...@btopenworld.com wrote:
 
 Hi Peter
 
 If it helps in gaining a measure outside Germany, I would be interested in
 2/3 QL-SD units.
 
 Ian Burkinshaw
 - Original Message - From: Peter Graf pg...@q40.de
 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL-SD News
 
 
 
 Francois Lanciault wrote:
 
 Looking forward to an official news with price and availability.
 
 At the moment QL-SD is only available within Germany, orders through the
 German QL Forum. Current price is EUR 60 including a preformattet SDHC
 card, Minerva operating system and drivers EPROM, Microdrive slot access
 unit and shipment. QL-SD is in a phase of testing, gathering experience,
 improving the manual, and investigating the (Super) Gold Card issues.
 
 Should experiences and pre-orders be encouraging, the next batch is
 planned prior to the German Sinclair meeting in April.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] Ql is 30

[Kenn Van Hauen]

Agree! Let's get behind Rich's offer. Kenn

Sent from my iPad

 On 3 Dec 2013, at 19:26, Dave Park d...@sinclairql.com wrote:
 
 I think we should hold the event in Las Vegas, Nevada.
 
 Las Vegas has many convention halls and are ideally set-up for hosting such
 a popular and successful event. Las Vegas has also worked hard to build the
 infrastructure required to feed the massing hordes. Furthermore, Vegas has
 entertainment and services needed to properly support the QL community in
 the manner to which it has become accustomed. Why Las Vegas, though? It's a
 holiday destination. Once you accept that for most people, traveling
 internationally to get to any location means taking a holiday or vacation,
 you logically end up in a situation where it makes sense only if the
 location is vacation-friendly.
 
 Las Vegas is vacation-friendly!
 
 Now, I can hear what you're saying... Dave just suggested Las Vegas
 because it's in Murica! No, not so. It will require less travel for all
 you Europeans than it would for me. For me it would be a 4,200 mile (6,760
 km) round trip drive. But I'd do it. :)
 
 Sorry, I can't go on any longer :)
 
 Folks, I love and care for you all, but I want to bang your heads together.
 It doesn't matter if the show is large or small, here or there. We can
 barely even put on a show, so the fact one might happen at all is a
 miracle. There have been at least three good offers to host a show, and one
 clear request for movement and funding by Quanta, and yet nothing has
 happened. It is now very VERY late in the day to hit the April/May target
 for a show. Everyone feels let down and nobody feels responsible.
 
 For my money, I think Rich's (RWAP's) offer to host a show was the most
 sound, and represented the combination of good location, minimal cost, and
 best exposure to other users to grow the community. However, watching us
 squabbling like little girls must have been very off-putting for him. We
 should be thankful if he even thinks it's worth serving this community any
 more.
 
 We should all be ashamed.
 
 Dave
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 On 03/12/2013 15:15, Peter wrote:
 
 Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 8. It should not be restricted to the QL only, but at least be themed and
 addressed as an all Sinclair event. Open for everyone, even for alien
 retro
 computer systems (ATARI, COMMODORE, AMSTRAD, etc.).
 Even at a Sinclair-only meeting, the QL would already be an almost
 negligible minority. If the scope is widened to even more systems (with
 even bigger user base), the QL completely moves out of focus.
 
 I have attended retro meetings in the past - they are nice if one is
 primarily interested in general computer history and chat, but I would not
 travel to England for just that. For my taste, QL is 30 requires a very
 clear focus on the QL!
 
 I would definitely prefer a dedicated QL event with an audience of only 10
 or 20 persons, to a general retro meeting with 100 or more. The recent
 German QL meeting has proved how busy and interesting a small event can
 be.
 
 Maybe I'd drive 50 km for a general retro meeting, 300 km for an all
 Sinclair meeting, but to motivate me for travelling to the UK, only the QL
 will do ;-) Please consider this just my personal taste - if the majority
 prefers a general event, it's fine.
 I agree with Peter on this.  We need to think small - quality not
 quantity. If a meeting of 10 people results in benefits for the whole QL
 community then it is a worthwhile event.
 
 Small events are easier and cheaper to organise. You can use smaller and
 cheaper halls - workplaces, schools, church halls or - dare I say it - a
 scout hut. Catering can also be done cheaply and easily. Tea, coffee,
 biscuits plus soup and rolls.
 
 For this reason I liked the idea of a possible Edinburgh event especially
 as Peter and other German users had expressed an interest. It would be the
 core of a good meeting.
 
 I have already announced my intention not to renew my Quanta subscription
 in January. I would be happy to give the £20 saved as a contribution to the
 cost of a hall,
 
 Best Wishes,
 
 
 Geoff
 
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