Re: [Ql-Users] What would you most like to see in a new version of QDOSMSQ?

2011-01-29 Thread P Witte

Norman Dunbar wrote:

On 27/01/11 15:48, gdgqler wrote:

  

Of course. but why at runtime?


Code reuse and/or share-ability. If you have 10 applications running and
each one needs the same library code, isn't it much better to have one
copy used by all, rather than running the system with 10 copies of the
same code? That way, the space hogged by the 9 duplicates can be used to
run another application?

  



I dont get you. Whats wrong with toolkits and Things? They work like 
dlls. If the punter doesnt have loaded what you need you can always load 
it from the program's home directory.


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[Ql-Users] Android

2011-01-29 Thread P Witte
Does anyone know if there is enough of Linux left in Android to compile 
and run uQLx? Has anyone tried?


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Re: [Ql-Users] Question

2011-01-10 Thread P Witte

Rich Mellor wrote:


On 10/01/2011 15:00, Rich Mellor wrote:

On 10/01/2011 14:50, gdgqler wrote:

On 10 Jan 2011, at 14:32, Lee Privett wrote:

In QDOS/SMSQ/E the 'AT' keyword allows the print statement an 
imaginary y/x character cursor location to be used. Is there away 
of knowing where this is as a function?


for example:

10 AT 10,20 PRINT FRED;
20 PRINT LOCX : remark this would return 24
30 PRINT LOCY: remark this would return 20


10 AT 10,20 PRINT FRED
20 PRINT LOCX : remark this would return 1 (or 0)
30 PRINT LOCY: remark this would return 11

I don't know of any extensions which contain functions like LOCX and 
LOCY. The trap #3 call SD_CHENQ returns the cursor position in 
characters. It would therefore be easy to produce the keywords LOCX 
and LOCY.


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I had a quick look through my SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference Manual and 
can't find anything.


I am sure I wrote a small function (CURSOR_POSX and CURSOR_POSY) to 
get at these values but which program I used it in, I can't think for 
the life of me!.




Of course, there is an easier way...

Use the CHANS toolkit from DIY toolkit (volume C) and then use

PRINT CHAN_W%(#3,34) to grab the x position on channel #3
PRINT CHAN_W%(#3,36) to grab the y position on channel #3


Or try

PRINT CHAN_W%(#ch; 82): rem SD_XPOS
PRINT CHAN_W%(#ch; 84): rem SD_YPOS

for position in cursor coordinates, which is what I think you want.

It may be possible to do this without a toolkit by using the extended 
PEEK commands found in SMSQ/E and Minerva. I havnt tried, though.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Question

2011-01-10 Thread P Witte

Rich Mellor wrote:


On 10/01/2011 15:00, Rich Mellor wrote:

On 10/01/2011 14:50, gdgqler wrote:

On 10 Jan 2011, at 14:32, Lee Privett wrote:

In QDOS/SMSQ/E the 'AT' keyword allows the print statement an 
imaginary y/x character cursor location to be used. Is there away 
of knowing where this is as a function?


for example:

10 AT 10,20 PRINT FRED;
20 PRINT LOCX : remark this would return 24
30 PRINT LOCY: remark this would return 20


10 AT 10,20 PRINT FRED
20 PRINT LOCX : remark this would return 1 (or 0)
30 PRINT LOCY: remark this would return 11

I don't know of any extensions which contain functions like LOCX and 
LOCY. The trap #3 call SD_CHENQ returns the cursor position in 
characters. It would therefore be easy to produce the keywords LOCX 
and LOCY.


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I had a quick look through my SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference Manual and 
can't find anything.


I am sure I wrote a small function (CURSOR_POSX and CURSOR_POSY) to 
get at these values but which program I used it in, I can't think for 
the life of me!.




Of course, there is an easier way...

Use the CHANS toolkit from DIY toolkit (volume C) and then use

PRINT CHAN_W%(#3,34) to grab the x position on channel #3
PRINT CHAN_W%(#3,36) to grab the y position on channel #3


Or try

PRINT CHAN_W%(#ch; 82): rem SD_XPOS
PRINT CHAN_W%(#ch; 84): rem SD_YPOS

for position in cursor coordinates, which is what I think you want.

It may be possible to do this without a toolkit by using the extended
PEEK commands found in SMSQ/E and Minerva. I havnt tried, though.

Per


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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta mags

2010-12-31 Thread P Witte

Tony Firshman wrote:


QL-MyLink-DT wrote, on 30/Dec/10 20:50 | Dec30:

I know.. I know... Dilwyn said hasn't!

But, as I'm John in Wales and West of Chester.

I report that I recieved my QUANTA yesterday (Wednesday), bearing an 
'audit

trail' -

Manchester 07.08 pm. etc. etc. On which date? aaah... that's far too
smudged to read - even with a magnifier. Funny that - everything else is
legible.

It's Quite Logical; they know you're onto it Dilwyn! :-)

Happy New Year to All


We need to hear from someone North of Forth (8-)#


Got my eQuanta alright, but QLT has still to arrive up north! (Perhaps 
'cause my family had reindeer steak for Xmas again?)


A Happy QL-ing New Year to all!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Quanta mags

2010-12-31 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones wrote:




As I now have mail for half my street I'd better become a postman for
the day... if I've got post for half the street, who's got the other
half of my mail??? G. It was Per the Norwegian who ate the
reindeer, honest...I only wrote the Santa game... (there, back on
topic).


As to that, you have a lot to answer for, Mr Jones: I wasted nearly 
two hours catching reindeer in a maze! ;o) (But I swear I didnt eat any!)



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[Ql-Users] Super Astrologer query

2010-12-28 Thread P Witte

Hi guys,

In connection with a recent death in the family, Id like to get the time 
of birth of the person in question. He gave it to me in the 80s to use 
in the DP's program Super Astrologer. However, I cant get the program to 
work right now, probably configuration issues, and I need the program to 
tell me what the data means. The data looks like this.


ASTRO---
FIRSTNAME SURNAME
*25.06.1930
17.15
+1.00
 8.2000 E
49.3000 N

The location is in Germany. It could be simple, the time given being 
17.15 GMT+1. But I seem to recall some fiddle about sidereal time. The 
+1 may also not relate to the time.


Does anyone have an answer or opinion, or would someone be able to 
check? It would be a great help, especially if the answer came soon ;o)


Wishing you all happy year ahead!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Super Astrologer query

2010-12-28 Thread P Witte

Ralf Reköndt wrote:


P Witte wrote:


Hi guys,

In connection with a recent death in the family, Id like to get the time
of birth of the person in question. He gave it to me in the 80s to use
in the DP's program Super Astrologer. However, I cant get the program to
work right now, probably configuration issues, and I need the program to
tell me what the data means. The data looks like this.

ASTRO---
FIRSTNAME SURNAME
*25.06.1930
17.15
+1.00
 8.2000 E
49.3000 N

The location is in Germany. It could be simple, the time given being
17.15 GMT+1. But I seem to recall some fiddle about sidereal time. The
+1 may also not relate to the time.


Of course, the  program was written (if I correctly remind) by Elmar 
Duensser, a german guy. Try to contact him here:


elmar.duens...@t-online.de

Mabe he reminds his old program...;-).

Cheers...Ralf


Thanks. I'll give it a try

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Re: [Ql-Users] TCP_ and SCK_ driver documentation?

2010-12-18 Thread P Witte

Petri Pellinen wrote:

Hello everyone,

as part of my quest to create an ethernet card for the original QL I'm
looking at the existing TCP implementations to get ideas about the
interface to the devive driver.

Looking at QemuLator's release notes (
http://terdina.net/ql/VersionHistory.html ) I see a mention of QDOS
tcp_ and sck_ device drivers. Are these documented anywhere?

In case anyone is interested I have a working prototype board based on
the wiznet 5300 chip. Before refining the hardware implementation
further I want to take a look at the software side. Fortunately, the
W3500 has a rather simple (but powerful) programming model so the
device driver implementation looks fairly straightforward.
  

Is the move to IPv6 going to have an effect on current and future hardware or 
software for Qx systems?


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Re: [Ql-Users] A small machine code program...

2010-11-26 Thread P Witte

Marcos Cruz wrote:

En/Je/On 2010-11-26 17:17, P Witte escribió / skribis / wrote :


The rules are simple -
write out the values 1 to 100 on screen
If the value is divisble by 3 write 'FIZZ' after the number
If the value is divisble by 5 write 'BUZZ' after the number
If the value is divisble by 3 and 5 write 'FIZZBUZZ' after the number



Maybe the shortest thus far? -- calcutations instead of conditional
structures, kind of Forth's style:

1for i=1to 100:print i!FIZZ(to 4*not i mod 3);BUZZ(to 4*not i mod 5)

(73 bytes including LF). 


More alternatives:

1for i=1to 100:print i!FI(to 2*not i mod 3);BU(to 2*not i mod 5);ZZ

(74 bytes including LF). 


1deffn m(n):ret 4*not i mod n:enddef:for i=1to 100:print i!FIZZ(to 
m(3));BUZZ(to m(5))

(91 bytes including LF).

1deffn t$(a$,n):ret (a$ZZ)(to 4*not i mod n):enddef:for i=1to 100:print 
i!t$(FI,3);t$(BU,5)

(99 bytes including LF).

1deffn t$(a$,n):ret a$(to 4*not i mod n):enddef:for i=1to 100:print 
i!t$(FIZZ,3);t$(BUZZ,5)

(95 bytes including LF).

A pretty waste of time :-)


Very nice ;o) I'd like to raise your 73 to 72: You dont need the line 
number unless you start with a def* (You could remove the lf too, but 
then you cant LOAD or DO it. ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] List of QLing 'Terms'

2010-11-18 Thread P Witte

Tony Firshman wrote:


Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 18/Nov/10 11:27 | Nov18:
snip


In time, I'd like to build a beginners section (needs a bettername as it
would be for returners too) on my website with articles like this and
some of the more commonly asked questions (such as how to transfer files
between QL and other computers, unzipping etc etc). There are such
articles on there already, but a bit scattered and not easy enough to 
find.

Basics?


Fundamentals, perhaps? Wont scare off the Knowitalls who really need
it.

Per

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[Ql-Users] Hrm

2010-10-25 Thread P Witte
Did anyone say anything? Or was that just the latest viagra spam that 
went through the shredder?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question

2010-09-13 Thread P Witte

Urs Koenig (QL) wrote:
Petri Pellinen wrote: 
greetings from sunny Finland. I recently found my old QL in 
my father's attic and am going to put in some quality 
retrocomputing time. It's great to see that there are still 
people active around this piece of hardware.

Is it the Finnish or English version of the QL?

A few days ago I bought a Finnish version (MGY ROM) on eBay.
I made a few pictures and put them on my Windows Live Photo
Gallery. See:
http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/browse.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomp
uters

There's a stricker on the bottom of my Finnish QL. It seams
to have a sentence in both Finnish and Swedish. 
http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomput

ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG


This link doesnt seem to work


It reads:
SINETIN MURTAMINEN KIELLETTY
FÖRSEGLINGEN FAR EJ BRYTAS


The seal must not be broken


Could you please translate this for me?

Greetings from Switzerland, Urs


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Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread P Witte

gdgqler wrote:


On 17 Jun 2010, at 23:44, P Witte wrote:


 The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing, where data storage 
and even processing power is an off-site, on-line service. Thats a major 
paradigm shift - back to square one, some three or four generations ago.


Aha! But how do you program for this?

George


You dont. It programs you.

Per



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Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-19 Thread P Witte

Norman Dunbar wrote:

George,


The current trend appears to be towards Cloud computing,

Aha! But how do you program for this?


Cloud is the latest marketing paradigm/buzz word to hit the IT world.
Like most other next great things it will pass and fade from memory.

All it means is that instead of you or your company owning a pile of
servers onto which you install and run stuff, like Oracle databases,
WebLogic app servers and so on, huge companies like Amazon and
(possibly) Google own the servers and you rent space on them as and when
you need.

You pay by the time used and if you need, say, to run a training course,
switch on a few more processor cores (or whatever) and pay the extra for
that training course only.

The problem is, all your data is on Amazon's servers - do you know that
Amazon are making the security work? How safe is your data? Who else can
see it?

It's fine under certain circumstances, but personally, I don't trust it.
However, I have become very cynical with the IT business - having been
in it far too long - and all these next great things that so far, have
all come to nothing!

Best avoided.


But surely you see that it could spell then end of the Personal 
Computer, in which case the next great thing becomes significant and 
not merely a fad. The issues you raise regarding privacy and security 
will be solved, otherwise this idea will vanish (until needed on some 
other occasion). The most common devices to access these vast 
resources may well look very different from our standard PCs of today. 
They could be small, always-online mobile devices with lots of bling 
and little brain. In other words smartphones or iPads or what have you.


Of course there will be thousands of old fogeys, like me, and perhaps 
you, who wont take to all that jazz, but will continue to issue our 
curses and incantations over strange black boxes from another era, 
nay, civilisation. Still, I have a DropBox account, and find it very 
handy. Its like a folder in Explorer except its located in the Cloud. 
Anything I copy there is immediately replicated across all my PCs and 
physically reside there, as well as in the cloud. If my house burns 
down with my computers and backups I can still access my data from 
anywhere. If the Cloud should become inaccessible, I still have copies 
across my computers. Privacy? I only store zipped and encrypted files 
in DropBox unless I decide to share.


So its not all bad. It may not be the final word in computing 
paradigms, but you dont NOT take the ferry because youre convinced 
that in ten years time therell be a bridge.


These DropBox guys dont at present seem to want to program you or 
rifle through your private papers. I suppose they make their money by 
getting you addicted and then selling you more space above the two Gig 
free bait. Seems fair enough to me.


Google Docs, Calendar, etc are really a peek into a possible future of 
Cloud Computing. (Is it true that Google is as big as General Motors?) 
If it is, they must be doing something right. It is right if it makes 
sense, but more often it is right if it makes a profit and so you make 
damned sure it makes sense too, by making every other way of doing 
things increasingly difficult and expensive, and finally obsolete.


In the end it comes down to: Eat shit! A trillion flies cant be 
wrong! We all do it, you know. We all finally succumb to that 
scatological temptation. (Hands up all here with PCs! Right! See! I 
rest my case.)


Per
(feeling a bit strange after those tablets my doctor gave me %o$  )
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Re: [Ql-Users] USB Floppy Disks and The QL Future

2010-06-17 Thread P Witte
Damn, I missed all the fun as Orange havent delivered the mail for 
over a week ;o( Not even the message to tell me that I need to agree 
to their new conditions before I can use my mail account (via an email 
client or even their webmail interface). How dumb and unhelpful is that!


Regarding floppies, No, you cant format DD disks in Vista or W7 as the 
native drivers dont support it. No problem reading them, though, and 
no problem formating HD disks from W7 or from within QPC - at least 
there shouldnt be. Solution: Copy your old stuff to HDDs and go on living!


As for the QL future, I guess there aint any, at least not at the 
present (if that makes sense). Modern computers have evolved far 
beyond what was envisaged when the QL was young. Surely we dont need 
yet another way of doing the same old tired things any fool can now do 
with Linux, Windoze or Macs. The current trend appears to be towards 
Cloud computing, where data storage and even processing power is an 
off-site, on-line service. Thats a major paradigm shift - back to 
square one, some three or four generations ago.


There is still the possibility that some of the seminal concepts from 
the QL era will come round again in a new form in the future, so its 
worthwhile hanging on in there and keeping it alive as best we can. 
And if not, weve still had our moneys worth!


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Re: [Ql-Users] International QL-Meeting 2010 in Vienna - More News

2010-05-26 Thread P Witte

Gerhard Plavec wrote:


Hi Per :)

I don't know where people coming from outside ist staying (Jochen Merz, 
Marcel Kilgus, Tony Tebby and Firshman, Wolfgang Lenerz, Urs König)...


Worst case, you can stay in my home - there is the show location, so it 
is not like a hotel... more like camping :)


If  you tell me when your plane arrives in Vienna, may be I find someone 
for picking you at the airport.


Thank you very much! A tough decision between conviviality, price and
convenience..

I must gratefully decline being picked up at the airport as my plane
arrives late (22.05 + the time it takes to negotiate the cattle run on
arrival, ++ the almost inevitable delays these days)

Also thanks for the very kind offer to let me stay at your place,
Gerhard :o) That would be the proper and sensible thing for me to do!
However, at present I live out the sticks and I feel I really need
some city around me on this short break!

Holiday Inn is probably Out unless a) someone would like to share a
smoking double bed with me. No? I thought so, or b) someone out
there would like to purchase a super QXL2 card from me, now, sadly,
surplus to requirements (see separate mail)

Tony, you didnt mention whether you were staying at HI City or South.

Anyone else got lodgings in a more down-market central location?

Per

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[Ql-Users] QXL for sale!

2010-05-26 Thread P Witte

Hi all,

I have for sale a QXL2 ISA card with 8Mb memory. It sports an 
MC68EC040RC25 CPU (25MHz, I believe) and comes with a systems disk 
(still readable) and the original printed manual.


The only way I can justify getting rid of my dear old QXL card is to 
help to finance an other good (for me) QL cause!


It was new in 1996 and was in use daily until retired when QPC on a PC 
reached higher speeds, in about 1997 or 1998.


I have no way of testing whether it still works but then, what could 
go wrong? Assuming alls well, Im open to offers of £100 or more.


Id prefer to sell to someone attending the KuEl show in Vienna as that 
will save on the hassles and considerable (I live in a super-high-cost 
country, remember) expense of PP. Also, we may then possibly be able 
to test it.


Bidding off list (or on list if this is allowed) to end by next Wednesday.

Per

PS I reserve the right not to sell to the highest bidder!
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Re: [Ql-Users] International QL-Meeting 2010 in Vienna - More News

2010-05-24 Thread P Witte

SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote:


Hi to all,

does anybody know who will be visiting the show?



Although living in Bergen, Norway is a bit like living in Timbuctoo,
as far as the rest of the world is concerned, I hope to be there ;o)
Flying in late on Friday and out on Monday.

It would be nice to stay somewhere where other QLers are holed up;
alternatively somewhere cheap (and preferably both) Whats the best
advice on this, please?

Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] Cakking Dilwyn

2010-04-01 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones wrote:



... and sorry for 'cakking' you, Dilwyn (8-)#

Tony
It's only taken until today for me to realise that the 'cakking' was a 
TF mistype of 'calling'...


:-)

Dilwyn Jones


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No, no. 'Cakking' means 'being shamed into disclosing your personal 
email address via a public forum'. It is derived from 'cacking', which 
is, for example, when someone is called up over the PA system at a 
busy airport. Would Dilwyn Ezekiel Obediah Jones please report 
IMMEDIATELY to Customs at gate 5. and such like.


No, Dilwyn, Im afraid it is quite clear you have been cakked!

Commiserations,

Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] QLtoday

2010-01-11 Thread P Witte

I wrote:


SMSQ - Jochen Merz writes:


Hello François,

great! I am glad all the mags arrive now :-)



Not quite :o( The surviving reindeer must have taken umbrage


QLY arrived today! (Hence the new name ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] QLtoday

2010-01-06 Thread P Witte

SMSQ - Jochen Merz writes:


Hello François,

great! I am glad all the mags arrive now :-)



Not quite :o( The surviving reindeer must have taken umbrage

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Re: [Ql-Users] Reindeer quiz - ANSWERS

2010-01-03 Thread P Witte

Norman Dunbar writes:

Evening all.





Per
(Eats shoots and leaves)

Like all good vegetarians. In Scotland, where I come from, vegetarians
*are* food! ;-)


Not this vegetarian! I just forgot the bloody comma ;o)

Per


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Re: [Ql-Users] SAV files

2010-01-03 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones writes:


Does anyone have information on the format of _sav basic files (as used 
by Liberation Software's QSAVE utility and the equivalent command in 
SBASIC)?


Heres (an incomplete) decode of the file structure. Below that an 
example file. HTH


Per

QSAVE file structure
March 22nd 2001

*
Head
dc.w 'Q1'00   flag

dc.w $0380   02   ? version ? This with SMSQ/E2.xx
  $0380 = Hex  bin  ?
 $02C0, $ from Norman - dont know 
what it 	  implies, perhaps vanilla?


dc.w count   04   number of names

dc.w source-names06   size of name list

dc.w lines   08   number of lines in program

*
names0A   start names list


For each name:

dc.w type00   bits 0..11 as for name-table entry
  bits 12..15 ?
  bit #12: var is paramter
  bit #13: var is ?
dc.w valp02   value pointer? Always 0?

dc.w nlen04   name length

dc.b namechars   06.. name bytes, padded to even number


*
source

actual tokenised SB program file

---

Example code of test program (SMSQ/E):

10 REMark Test
20 number=1
30 PRINT number
40 number = two


dc.w'Q1'flag

dc.w$0380   ? vers? Ive seen 0B40, 0100, 120,.

dc.w3   count names

dc.wsource-namessize of name list

dc.w4   line count

names
dc.w$0800
dc.w$
dc.w5,'PRINT '

dc.w$0202 type Top bit or two set on some, for some reason
dc.w$
dc.w6,'number'

dc.w$0202 type
dc.w$
dc.w3,'two '

source
dc.w$0010
dc.w$8D00   line number
dc.w10  10
dc.w$811E   REMarkREMark
dc.w$8C00   rem text
dc.w4,'Test'   Test
dc.w$840A   eol
dc.w$0002   ?

dc.w$8D00
dc.w20  20
dc.w$8800  namenumber
dc.w$0001  name index
dc.w$8401  = =
dc.w$F801
dc.l $4000  float1
dc.w$840A  eol

dc.w$FFFE  ?
dc.w$8D00  line number
dc.w30  30
dc.w$8800  namePRINT
dc.w$  name index
dc.w$8001  one space
dc.w$8800  namenumber
dc.w$0001  name index
dc.w$840A  eol

dc.w$0004  ?
dc.w$8D00  line num
dc.w40
dc.w$8800  namenumber
dc.w$0001  index
dc.w$8001  space
dc.w$8401  = =
dc.w$8001  space
dc.w$8800  name two
dc.w$0002  index
dc.w$840A  eol


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Re: [Ql-Users] Reindeer quiz - ANSWERS

2010-01-02 Thread P Witte

Norman Dunbar wrote:

I never said it would be a proper quiz by the way!

* How many reindeer are employed by Santa?
Two.


Over here there are (or were) at least three


* What are their names (Spelling need not be correct)?
Rudolf and Olive.


Yksi, Kaksi, Kolme (1, 2, 3 in Finnish)


* What sex is the red nosed reindeer?
Female.


A female called Rudolf?


* Why do you say that?
Only female reindeer keep their antlers throughout winter.


Actually, you can buy them down at the market over here. A media-savvy 
reindeer, as Santa's surely must be, would know that.




Ok, maybe a bit of clarification is required for the answers to the
first two questions above:

Everyone knows abouit Rudolf, so that's one reindeer.
The song  of the same name has the words Olive, the other reindeer used
to laugh and call him names - so that's two. No others are mentioned! ;-)

So, two reindeer are in Santa's employ, Rudolf and Olive.


All wildly off topic, of course ;o) All I said was that QLT hadnt 
arrived here in Norway, possibly due to one of the postman's reindeer 
having been eaten, and not even by me. I had nut roast, tho Ive no 
idea whose nuts. Bang! There probably went Olive. At least he'll have 
a sporting chance of keeping his antlers next year!



ducks  runs again



Per

(Eats shoots and leaves)
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Re: [Ql-Users] Happy New Year

2010-01-01 Thread P Witte
Not arrived in Norway yet either. We had reindeer steak for Christmas, 
(not me personally, of course, Im a veggie) so the postman might have 
been one short..


Wishing us all a great 2010!

Per

SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote:


Thanks Dilwyn

may I wish the same to you and all the others on the list too.

I'm a bit surprised that there has been no comment about the
QL Today issue 2 which I sent out middle of December - or was
the post too slow to deliver before Xmas?

Jochen



Dilwyn Jones wrote:

May I be the first to wish the entire QL community a very happy new year!

Dilwyn Jones


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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-17 Thread P Witte

John Gilpin wrote:


Is there a reliable way of listing all the 'extras' currently loaded and 
is there a way of getting a list of 'extras' each extension should load 
- say from the .bin file that is being LRESPRd?. This would be useful in 
determining whether an extension will overwrite a particular entry 
already loaded.


There is no accurate way to determine which unique extensions will be 
loaded by any given toolkit, for mainly three reasons.


1. Extensions will overwrite any previous extension with the same name
2. A toolkit may selectively load only some extensions
3. Theoretically, (but unlikely) a toolkit could generate extension 
name(s) on the fly or alter the names of existing extensions!


Using a program or editor to determine which extensions will be loaded 
may fail for the reasons above.


Having said that, most toolkits are pretty straightforward, so only 
reason 1. above will apply.


EXTRAS in job #0 is pretty reliable, except you cannot tell which 
keywords have been redefined. If you really need to know, youd have to 
load one toolkit at a time, dump the keyword list using EXTRAS, reboot 
and do the next. Then you could decide in which order to load the 
toolkits.


Is there a recognised sequence that extensions should be loaded in? - 
i.e. TK2 before Menu_rext.


Because of reason 1. given above, the order of toolkits loaded can be 
significant. One toolkit's PEEKS might do something completely 
different to another's. There is no general rule apart from testing to 
see what works. For the main toolkits, Id follow Dilwyn's advice, for 
any additional toolkits, load those that are required by the programs 
most important to you last! If you end up with a heart-rending 
conflict, youll have to resort to patching. But thats another topic ;o)


Is there a way of getting say EXTRAS loaded without loading all the 
other 400+ 'keywords' contained in TK2?


Ah, but you may need TK2 for many good reasons. Invisibly to the user, 
it redefines a number of existing internal keywords (such as CALL, 
DIR, DELETE, and many others). TK2 contains the LRESPR keyword we all 
find so useful, and it also contains many other useful non-keyword 
facilities, like bug fixes for the QL ROMs (I seem to recall).


There are, however, lighter versions - and even a configurable version 
 - out there (Dilwyn will know)




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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-16 Thread P Witte
Only poking you a bit, John. Nothing serious ;o) Id be more than happy 
to look at your boot script(s) to see if I can spot any obvious flaws. 
Sometimes all it takes is a new Per of I's


Per

John Gilpin wrote:


Contrary to Per's comments, I am most grateful to the many people who 
have posted helpful advice regarding my recent BASIC problems in 
transferring some programs which I wrote many years ago from an Aurora, 
SGC, QuBide machine to QPC2 on my PCs. I am still investigating the 
disappearance of EXTRAS loaded from my BOOT program - a situation which 
only occurs in QPC2 (not on the Aurora machines). The offered solutions 
to my query about being able to step through the program are, as has 
been noted on this list, very slow and time consuming but I have 
attempted them in the hopes of identifying the error(s). In hindsight, 
what I had in mind, was something more along the lines of the trace 
facility found in PSION Archive and Xchange (archive) which I use 
extensively. From advice offered by contributors on this list, I am 
currently checking the full list of EXTRAS at various points in the 
program to see if the missing ones all disappear together or a few at a 
time at various points. I may well have a few VERY BASIC questions 
regarding the use of EXTRAS to do this, later today. Having said all 
this, I have to accept that the programs concerned do work well (the 
first time round) and it is only on the occasion when having closed a 
program I need to use it again that I find that without a full 
power-down and reBOOT the programs will not run due to missing 
extensions. I thought that once loaded (LRESPRd), toolkits etc remained 
loaded until the machine was powered-down. Do I have this BASIC premise 
correct?


Thank you all for your help and guidance.

Regards,

John Gilpin.



P Witte wrote:

giggler wrote:


On 14 Nov 2009, at 16:04, P Witte wrote:

The way the question was formulated, a line by line stepping 
through a program - specifically, a boot script - was wanted. This 
hardly adds to the responses already given, although its fine if 
only a few lines want monitoring.


You can use QMON to step through an assembly program. But this is

 usually too time-consuming. It is better to go quickly to a
 specific place and step through a few instructions there. In
 aBASIC program it would be equally futile to examine the
 results of every single instruction. I think that it is the
 ability to examine each instruction which is wanted. I have
 certainly once or twice used my Puse after each instruction
 in a short stretch of code.

Little point in us discussing it as the original petitioner seems to 
have found what he wanted and moved on to better things. Or perhaps 
hes still single-stepping through some endless loop his boot script! 
;o) In which case your arguments certainly win the day!


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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-16 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus wrote:


François Van Emelen wrote:

Of course this is only true for extensions/toolkits loaded in Job 0.


Yes, forgot to say that.


Extensions/toolkits loaded in another Job are only available in that job.
'EXTRAS' doesn't always show all the available keywords. A bug or a feature?


This was a feature on QDOS based machine (EXTRAS does not list any
keywords in ROM, as only the extras should be shown) which turned
into a bug on SMSQ/E based machines (there it was not guaranteed that
new keywords are not in the ROM address area). I fixed that in v2f99.


Unless he is refering to the feature that EXTRAS in SBasic daughters 
only displays keywords once they have actually been used. And that 
includes ALL non-language keywords (ie INPUT, but not REPeat, etc)


Quite neat really, but I cant remember why ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-16 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Contrary to Per's comments, I am most grateful to the many people who



I had a look at John's boot program but lack of time prevents me from 
taking a very detailed look.


Basically, his program revolves around code like:



Sounds like the real problem here is one of complexity ;o)

As others have already commented, all but the simplest boot files 
should be split into at least two files. One for loading the core 
components and another (or a choice of others) for the rest.


(I use a third tier for the most dynamic components, such as default 
directory or win_drive selection. This is easily accessible from my 
Qascade Start Menu to pop straight up in an editor.)


One of the problems is communicating between any secondary boot files 
and the primary one. This seems to be one of the issues here. There 
are many ways around it, and John's way of dumping EXTRAS to a file 
and parsing that file is valid, although perhaps somewhat slow and 
cumbersome.


A quicker method might be for the primary boot file to create a status 
file on the fly and the secondaries to parse that instead. It should 
be a lot more concise and therefore quicker.


However, there are a lot of toolkits that provide a way of checking 
whether keywords have been loaded, including my FINDNAME_BIN (258 
bytes). Such a toolkit could be loaded by the primary, and the 
secondary boot script would use something like


IF FINDNAME%(Q_L): DO_THIS: ELSE: DO_THAT

(This works the same in daughter SBasics as in job#0, BTW)

The problem with boot files is that they tend to grow and evolve, and 
as so much depends on these increasingly tweaked and convoluted 
creations, one finds it hard to tidy them up or start again from 
scratch. If you spend more than an hour or so trying to debug one, it 
is perhaps time to start afresh!


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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-16 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones wrote:



The reason why John got the specific error message at line 210 of his 
program is simply that MENU_REXT checks if it is being installed twice. 
But that doesn't of course explain why the Q_L extension is not being 
found when he looks for it, unless it's something to do with the order 
of QLiberator files being installed or something like that.


Another technique for communicating between boot files is to let the 
primary boot write to the secondary directly. No parsing required!


BOOT1:

optionally lrespr Prowess and set pws flag accordingly
optionally lrespr Wman/ptrgen and set pe flag accordingly
..
..
c = fopen('flp1_BOOT2')
if pws: print#c; '1 pws = 1': else: print#c; '1 pws = 0'
if pe: print#c; '2 pe = 1': else: print#c; '2 mpe = 0'
..
close#c
..
lrun flp1_BOOT2

BOOT2:

1 pws = 0
2 pe = 0
..
..
120 if pws then
130  do_this
140 else
150  if pe then
160   do_that
170  end
180 end
..

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus wrote:



With all the different OS and release versions it's difficult to keep
everything in sync.


As you say. I too have a number of corrections, but no longer know 
whether they apply or not, as there were so many intermediate versions.


Thus

sms.sevt (trap #1, $3a) A0+ all preserved. My notes says HBA 3.04 smashed!

iob.elin (trap#3, $4) was a terrible mess. I wrote to TT about it and 
he agreed, but I dont know it was ever fixed


Theres more, but this is perhaps not the time/place.. Would be great 
if someone were to take on to edit these manuals. Perhaps the 
simplest for now would be for that someone to compile an Errata 
database and maintain it in some public place on the web?



2. Page Section 16 15
For vector SB.INIPR A4 is altered on return


As far as I see, the register is saved before the call. Or is it a
QDOS bug?


QPTR Manual

1. Page 60
In IOP.RPXL it seems that A1 is not preserved.


This was fixed in later PE releases and SMSQ/E.


Last time I checked iop.rpxl wasnt working at all!

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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-15 Thread P Witte

giggler wrote:


On 14 Nov 2009, at 16:04, P Witte wrote:


The way the question was formulated, a line by line stepping through a 
program - specifically, a boot script - was wanted. This hardly adds to the responses 
already given, although its fine if only a few lines want monitoring.


You can use QMON to step through an assembly program. But this is

 usually too time-consuming. It is better to go quickly to a
 specific place and step through a few instructions there. In
 aBASIC program it would be equally futile to examine the
 results of every single instruction. I think that it is the
 ability to examine each instruction which is wanted. I have
 certainly once or twice used my Puse after each instruction
 in a short stretch of code.

Little point in us discussing it as the original petitioner seems to 
have found what he wanted and moved on to better things. Or perhaps 
hes still single-stepping through some endless loop his boot script! 
;o) In which case your arguments certainly win the day!


Per

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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-14 Thread P Witte

gdgqler wrote:


On 8 Nov 2009, at 09:44, John Gilpin wrote:


Is there a way of stepping through a BASIC program, line by line, for debugging 
purposes?  If so how?


The way I debug BASIC programs is to use a routine called Puse, which causes a 
pause.

DEFine PROCedure Puse
 LOcal a$(2)
 OPEN#20,con
 a$=INKEY$(#20,-1)
 CLOSE#20
END DEFine

By placing this inside the program I can see what's happening. For example

2000 Fling: REMark some procedure
2005 Puse:PRINT Line 2000:Puse

allows me to see if I have gone past line 2000. Pressing any key allows the 
program to continue (to the next Puse).


The way the question was formulated, a line by line stepping through 
a program - specifically, a boot script - was wanted. This hardly adds 
to the responses already given, although its fine if only a few lines 
want monitoring.


To your example I venture to suggest the following improvement:

DEFine PROCedure Puse(l%)
 LOcal c%
 c% = FOPEN('con_')
  PRINT#c%; 'Line'! l%

or

  LIST#c%; l%: rem Unless compiled, of course
  PAUSE#c%; -1
 CLOSE#c%
END DEFine

Call with

2005 Puse 2000


You can add a PRINT facility to Puse by:

 DEFine PROCedure(b$)
.
.
  PRINT#20,b$
.
.
END DEFine

This works well even inside compiled BASIC programs.


Actually,

DEFine PROCedure(b$)

doesnt work at all ;o) Probably just a ruse to see if anyone was 
paying attention.


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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-14 Thread P Witte

Tony Firshman wrote:


gdgqler wrote, On 14/11/09 08:15:

On 8 Nov 2009, at 09:44, John Gilpin wrote:

 
Is there a way of stepping through a BASIC program, line by line, for 
debugging purposes?  If so how?



The way I debug BASIC programs is to use a routine called Puse, which 
causes a pause.


DEFine PROCedure Puse
 LOcal a$(2)
 OPEN#20,con
 a$=INKEY$(#20,-1)
 CLOSE#20
END DEFine

By placing this inside the program I can see what's happening. For 
example


2000 Fling: REMark some procedure
2005 Puse:PRINT Line 2000:Puse

allows me to see if I have gone past line 2000. Pressing any key 
allows the program to continue (to the next Puse).


You can add a PRINT facility to Puse by:

 DEFine PROCedure(b$)
.
.
  PRINT#20,b$
.
.
END DEFine

This works well even inside compiled BASIC programs.
  


... and of course further de-bugging info could be added, like printing 
critical  global variables each time.


Right you are. I miss Minerva SuperBasic's watch variable facility, eg:

120 WHEN x  10: PRINT X is now too big!
..
130 FOR x = 5 TO 12: PRINT x

will print

5
6
7
8
9
10
X is now too big!
11
X is now too big!
12

Pity it didnt make it into SBasic

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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-09 Thread P Witte

P Witte wrote:


John Gilpin wrote:


Is there a way of stepping through a BASIC program, line by line, for 
debugging purposes?  If so how?


You could try something like this:


I wrote a somewhat more sophisticated trace program in the early days, 
but it relies on the SuperBasic variables to do its stuff. That no 
longer works in SBasic. So, just because I felt like it, I wrote a new 
version this evening. It is very simplistic, but should be adequate 
for testing simple boot scripts and the like. Alter to suit your style:


100 REMark Simple TRACE V3.00
110 REMark pjwitte 20091109
120 :
130 inp$ = 'win1_someprogram_bas'
140 oup$ = 'ram1_test_bas'
150 c% = 0:  REMark Trace channel
160 t% = -1: REMark Timeout
170 :
180 ci% = FOP_IN(inp$): ERT ci%
190 co% = FOP_OVER(oup$): ERT co%
200 :
210 REPeat
220  IF EOF(#ci%): EXIT
230  INPUT#ci%; l$
240  l% = l$
250  s% = (' ' INSTR l$)
260  l$ = l$(s% + 1 TO)
270  IF OK THEN
280   PRINT#co%; l%! 'T.'! l%; ':'! l$
290  ELSE
300   PRINT#co%; l%! l$
310  END IF
320 END REPeat
330 :
340 PRINT#co%; l% + 1! 'STOP: REMark TRACE'
350 PRINT#co%; l% + 2! 'DEFine PROCedure T.(n%)'
360 PRINT#co%; l% + 3! 'LIST#'; c%; '; n% : PAUSE'! t%
370 PRINT#co%; l% + 4! 'END DEFine T.'
380 CLOSE
390 :
400 DEFine FuNction OK
410 IF ('def ' INSTR l$) = 1: RETurn 0
420 IF ('define ' INSTR l$) = 1: RETurn 0
430 IF ('loc ' INSTR l$) = 1: RETurn 0
440 IF ('local ' INSTR l$) = 1: RETurn 0
450 RETurn 1
460 END DEFine OK
470 :

NB! Only SBasic accepts procedures and variables containing a dot, so 
alter accordingly for SuperBasic!


To test it try using the program as its own input!

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Re: [Ql-Users] More BASIC Queries

2009-11-08 Thread P Witte

John Gilpin wrote:


And here's yet another one for you:-

Having LRESPRed various extensions in my Boot program, what would cause 
some or all of the resulting EXTRAS to disappear from the EXTRAS list?


Having run the boot, I have checked the EXTRAS list and been happy that 
what I wanted is there. Then, after allowing the boot program to call 
the next program in the sequence using ex 'win1_next program.exe' which 
subsequently returns on completion, I find that re running the same boot 


Do you seriously mean RE running the same boot program after LRESPRing 
the extensions? Some extensions may not like being LRESPRed more than 
once!


program fails since some of EXTRAS are no longer there. What sort of 
error should I be looking for?


If you mean that you continue running the boot program after executing 
 some other program, you may be looking at some dodgy extensions or 
corrupt files


Is there a way of stepping through a BASIC program, line by line, for 
debugging purposes?  If so how?


You could try something like this:

(assumes no gotos etc or RENUM source file first and save)

set line_number% to 10
open_in#input file_to_debug
open_new#output debug_file

loop until end of input file:
input#input line$
remove line number from line$
print#output: line_number%! list! line_number%! :pause:!  
   line$
increment line_number%
end loop

close all

Then run debug_file

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Re: [Ql-Users] qxl.win

2009-11-08 Thread P Witte

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I've run into an unusual program with my WIN1_ (a QXL.WIN) which I have 
been unable to resolve.



DIR WIN1_  gives 84847/1048560 sectors, it's a 512MB QXL.WIN, with 
11,716 files on it.


Despite reporting 84847 sectors free it says Drive Full. Deleting one 
file will let me save one file normally, then it runs into Drive Full 
next time I try to save anything. So it's not as if it's write 
protected, for example.


Anyone any idea what's happening? Could I have run into the maximum 
number of files a QXL.WIN file might hold, for example (directory full)?


Ive got a disc 63943/655358, with 13,023 files and 859 directories. 
Perhaps you have a lot of files in a single directory?




It was running on a pen drive, so I tried copying it to C: drive and 
using it from there with QPC's win1_ pointing to C:\QXL.WIN. Same result.


Next step will be create a new blank QXL.WIN and copy everything there 
to see if that gives the same result (i.e. checking for fragmented 
qxl.win?)


Thats what Id try. Even if you copied all your files into the root 
directory they should all fit!


I just tried:

for i = 1 to 99: save 'win5_t'i: at 0,0:print i,

on a blank qxl.win file. Its still going strong at 16000 files plus!
I'll let you know the final answer unless Marcel gets there first ;o)


Per


Help!

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Re: [Ql-Users] qxl.win

2009-11-08 Thread P Witte

James Hunkins wrote:

I have had that happen occasionally in the past, especially when I was 
doing a lot of developing for QDT which generated a lot of files every 
time I rebuilt it.  My guess is that it is some sort of fragmentation or 
less likely a file system table corruption.


What I did to resolve it was to recursively copy all directories and 
files to a brand new drive and then, after exiting QPC, rename the 
original as a backup name (just in case) and rename the new one as the 
original name.  In QPC you can also just change the names in the 
configuration for each drive.


I used the 'cp' command (I think that it came with some Unix command 
set) to do the copying.  One time hint, do not run it in verbose mode or 
else, depending on how many files, it will seem to take forever.


Once you verify that the new drive is good, then you can get rid of the 
original that you backed up.  I have never had a failure in doing this.



Copying the entire qxl.win file takes the entire directory data 
structure with it so if it had a problem before, it will still have one.


Exactly right Jim. Way to go! I presume cp maintains the file dates, 
etc? Otherwise I have a home grown routine for this if anyone needs one.




On 08-11-2009, at 6:42 PM, P Witte wrote:



Next step will be create a new blank QXL.WIN and copy everything there 
to see if that gives the same result (i.e. checking for fragmented 
qxl.win?)


Thats what Id try. Even if you copied all your files into the root 
directory they should all fit!


I just tried:

for i = 1 to 99: save 'win5_t'i: at 0,0:print i,

on a blank qxl.win file. Its still going strong at 16000 files plus!
I'll let you know the final answer unless Marcel gets there first ;o)


Cant wait for the final result as after about 16k files in one 
directory things really start to slow down! No wonder, as for each 
save the filing subsystem has to check every entry before the next 
save can occur.


Having determined that there is no arbitrary limit, I presume that the 
max number of files in one directory is probably around 32k (though it 
could be 65k) However, the practical limit at present is about 16k - 
20k as after that, even on a 2.66 GHz Core Duo, things slow down 
unbearably.


Qpac absolutely hates having to read such a large directory, and if a 
Sort is switched on it takes forever!


A theoretical answer would be much quicker to obtain, but Im rather 
rusty at the moment and would know where to look for the data. But 
this way of finding out also gives some practical insights.


The final figure at closing time is: 27490 files in the root 
directory! and that took almost one hour to complete.


Good night!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Further BASIC Question.

2009-11-07 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus writes:


John Gilpin wrote:

Having changed window sizes (and other parameters) in my program, I have
written a procedure to reset all the devices/parameters etc to their 
default settings before returning. I have most of the other defaults but
not the three windows #0, #1 and #2. Is this information recorded 
anywhere? If so, where?


Just use the WMON command, it will do everything for you.


As usual, Marcel is spot on ;o)

However, (on larger screens under SMSQ/E) I prefer to have my main 
console window on the right hand side of the screen, as the older 
programs tend to pile up on the left covering the command console. 
Normally, I also want to leave some space for the Button Frame on top. 
Therefore Ive set up two hotkeys on 'B' and 'b' which put the console 
where I want it. (The listings below should be concatenated with 
colons to put them on a hotkey.)


Incidentally, this also answers your question ;o)

Set windows top right, leaving room for BF:

OUTLN#0,512,242,SCR_XLIM-512,14
WINDOW#0;512,62,SCR_XLIM-512,194:BORDER#0;1,255
WINDOW#1;256,178,SCR_XLIM-256,14:BORDER#1;1,255
WINDOW#2,256,178,SCR_XLIM-512,14:BORDER#2;1,255
CLS#0:CLS#1:CLS#2

Reset windows, but place them top right:

OUTLN#0,512,256,SCR_XLIM-512,0
WINDOW#0;512,52,SCR_XLIM-512,204:PAPER#0;0:INK#0;4:BORDER#0;1,255:CLS#0
WINDOW 256,202,SCR_XLIM-256,0:PAPER 2:INK 7:BORDER 1,255:CLS
WINDOW#2,256,202,SCR_XLIM-512,0:PAPER#2;7:INK#2;2:BORDER#2;1,255:CLS#2

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Re: [Ql-Users] Further BASIC Question.

2009-11-07 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus wrote:


P Witte wrote:

Just use the WMON command, it will do everything for you.

As usual, Marcel is spot on ;o)

However, (on larger screens under SMSQ/E) I prefer to have my main 
console window on the right hand side of the screen, as the older 
programs tend to pile up on the left covering the command console. 
Normally, I also want to leave some space for the Button Frame on top.


Per, use the WMON ,SCR_XLIM-512,14 command, it will do everything for you :-)

(note the comma as the first parameter, it's no typo!)


Not quite ;o) But that doesnt mean that most of us shouldnt find it 
sufficient


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC2 screen size

2009-10-27 Thread P Witte



Giggler writes:


I would be happy myself with a 2048x2048 limit. I suppose I was just 
testing that some of my programs actually take whatever size is 
presented without limit (except of course ram size). Perhaps others 
might want an even bigger limit for QPC2!


There are some other unexpected limits though. FILL appears to have a 
problem at higher resolutions. I havent tested what the limits might 
be, I only know that there doesnt seem to be any problem with FILL on 
my 1280x768 screen, while on a 1640x1050 it certainly crashes QPC. 
This is probably downt to a Qdos/Smsqe issue.


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Re: [Ql-Users] XTC68 Status Report

2009-10-25 Thread P Witte

Adrian D. Ives writes:




ToolWatcom Name MinGW Name
~~~ ~~
Assembler   as68qas
Compilerc68 qc
Front End   qcc qcc
Linker  qld qld
Pre-Processor   qcppqpp
Make Utilitymakeqmake


I dont have much of an idea of what all this means, but FYI there 
already is a widely distributed and popular program called Qmake. 
Please consider whether this might cause confusion




Seems like youve done some great work there, Adrian!

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Re: [Ql-Users] [Fwd: Re: Help with BASIC/SBASIC WINDOWS]

2009-10-15 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus writes:

Ive had a blocked pipe in my qlusers system somewhere. Just had the 
odd mail until today when I got 107 all at once!



P Witte wrote:

Of course this isnt half as clever as it looks, as nowadays you arnt
guaranteed (AFAIK) that ALCHP wont return a negative address.


Is that so? ALCHP returns a memory address, so at least on QPC you
would have to have more than 2GB of memory to achieve this. On MMU
based systems it could be possible in theory, but I'm not aware that
it's the case.


Id swear that on one (or more) of the systems Ive used over the years 
Ive had to

watch out for negative addresses. Whether it was on a QVME or QXL, I dont
recall, only Ive been shy of them ever since. Probably mere superstition.


The much more grave problem is the other one you mention yourself,
namely that ALCHPed memory is discarded upon release of a job, so
you're returning an illegal pointer. Please never ever anybody use
this method. If you insist, use RECHP. This introduces a small memory
leak, but that's preferable to having a race condition.


My intention was to warn, as the technique of producing your own error 
messages is quite legal, but it breaks down in the case where it is a 
job's dying croak. However, for the purpose of interactively testing 
small scripts, there is usually never a problem.



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Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC cmd MRUN in a program...

2009-10-12 Thread P Witte
Hi Martyn,

Could your problem have to do with line numbers?

Per



 Message Received: Oct 11 2009, 10:17 PM
 From: Martyn Hill martyn.joseph.h...@googlemail.com
 To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
 Cc: 
 Subject: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the expected behaviour of the SBASIC 
cmd MRUN in a program...
 
 
 Hi again
 
 Could anyone say whether the behaviour that I'm seeing when using MRUN 
 in a running SBASIC prog is expected?
 
 As part of my initial SB boot prog, I include an MRUN statement that 
 successfully merges some useful SB definitions (only).
 
 I expect the boot prog to continue to execute the next statement, but it 
 simply stops after merging the DEFs.
 
 I'm running this in QPC. Is this expected behaviour? I read in the 
 manual that MRUN in a program _should_ continue with the next runnable 
 statement in the program.
 
 Regards,
 Martyn Hill
 London.
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Re: [Ql-Users] QUIT (was something else)

2009-10-06 Thread P Witte

Tony Firshman writes:


Dilwyn Jones wrote, On 5/10/09 11:31:

Gee Dee Gee QLer - sounds like something from a nursery rhyme :o)

Sounds better than Supreme Toady which I got called when I was QL 
Today editor - I think that one was down to Per as well.




Per Witte - Wet tripe

Dilwyn Llewellyn Jones:  Linen jolly lewdly sewn

Tony Firshman - Mannish forty (only 24 years out!)

George D Gwilt - Giggled or wet


My mind runs along different lines. I often find myself nick-naming 
people, although Ive never analysed the underlying rules too carefully.


Thus Per Vert, Tory Freshman, Billy Bones and, as weve seen, Giggler. 
Mostly I keep them to myself. (No offence intended or given, I trust 
;o) Ive been given many names by others too. When I worked for HP I 
was known as Twisted Per by the guys in the networking department. I 
hope Wet Tripe wont catch on, though, as the very thought makes me 
sick ;o)


Any other DNA (National Dyslexic Association) members here, BTW?
(If you missed the joke, the answer is Yes ;o)

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[Ql-Users] QUIT (was something else)

2009-10-04 Thread P Witte

gdgqler writes:



On 3 Oct 2009, at 17:03, P Witte wrote:


As it is not widely advertised and the documentation is hard to find,
I thought I should just mention that as of SMSQ/E 3.06 the QUIT
keyword takes an optional longword parameter. Earlier versions will
simply ignore this


A useful bit of information. Where is this recorded?

I suppose you go to the witch's wood and find the parchment under the 
third stone from the left. Or is it in one of the QL Today's?


It would be good to know.


Its RTFB, George ;o) I only happen to know cause I snuck the feature 
in myself. When researching for my reply, I couldnt find a trace of it 
in the documentation, but perhaps I just missed it.


BTW, how do you pronounce your nom de guerre? My dyslescia nags me to 
think of you as Giggler ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] [Fwd: Re: Help with BASIC/SBASIC WINDOWS]

2009-10-03 Thread P Witte

Bob Spelten writes:


Op Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:37:11 +0200 schreef John Gilpin 
thegilp...@btinternet.com:



I understand that there is no need to compile BASIC programs when using
QPC2 (SMSQ) - the SBASIC code can be EXEC'd without TURBO or QLIBERATOR.

Do I take this to mean that I just Ex win1_program_bas?And if it's 
as easy as that, what are the benefits and drawbacks of doing this?



It's as easy as that.
One small drawback can be that when a Qliberated program crashes there 
usually is the infamous red screen with an error message.
This is not always the case with executed SBasic, it just disappears. 
That's why I always write and test my SBasics in QD and use the 
qd/sbas thing to execute from there. Then QD will report the error.


As it is not widely advertised and the documentation is hard to find,
I thought I should just mention that as of SMSQ/E 3.06 the QUIT
keyword takes an optional longword parameter. Earlier versions will
simply ignore this

QUIT error_code

where error_code are the usual suspects. If you EW program_bas, and
program_bas terminates with a QUIT error_code parameter, the calling
program will receive the error message.

Below follows an example using a home made error code. (The Home made
error codes principle has always been part of SMSQ/E (and if IRRC,
Qdos) but most people, I suspect, will have forgotten all about it ;o)

1 REMark Example of QUIT
2 REMark Using own error message
3 REMark by pjwitte 2009
4 :
100 addr = ALCHP(100)
110 erm$ = 'something got seriously buggered here..'  CHR$(10)
120 POKE_W addr, LEN(erm$), erm$
130 er = BIN('1'  BIN$(addr, 32)(2 TO))
140 REMark La di da
150 QUIT er
160 :

If the program snippet above is saved as ram1_Test_bas (for example)
then if

EW ram1_Test_bas

is executed from another basic console it should return the error
message something got seriously buggered here..! (pardon my Latin!)

Of course this isnt half as clever as it looks, as nowadays you arnt
guaranteed (AFAIK) that ALCHP wont return a negative address. Another
potential pitfall is if you use

er = FEW(ram1_Test_bas)

and try to work out the error message from there, as the location of
the error message is no longer defined since the job that owned the
space has disappeared!

However, the concept is valid. Youll just have to find a workaround
for those issues.

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Re: [Ql-Users] [Fwd: Re: Help with BASIC/SBASIC WINDOWS]

2009-10-03 Thread P Witte



I wrote:


1 REMark Example of QUIT
2 REMark Using own error message
3 REMark by pjwitte 2009
4 :
100 addr = ALCHP(100)
110 erm$ = 'something got seriously buggered here..'  CHR$(10)
120 POKE_W addr, LEN(erm$), erm$
130 er = BIN('1'  BIN$(addr, 32)(2 TO))
140 REMark La di da
150 QUIT er
160 :


Line 120 should actually read something like

120 POKE_W addr, LEN(erm$): POKE addr + 2, erm$

I was using one of my own keywords to test and then edited it out in 
the email before sending it off in a hurry without re-testing! Just as 
well I was bleating in the wilderness, otherwise Id have had a torrent 
of protests!


QUIT -10

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Re: [Ql-Users] Next issue/volume of QL Today

2009-08-26 Thread P Witte

Hi all,

Just to say Ive moved again. If anyone needs my physical address just 
mail me ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] International QL Mac are 25 event will be hosted in Lucerne, Switzerland on Sat/Sun Oct 31-Nov 1, 2009

2009-07-04 Thread P Witte

Tony Firshman writes:


gdgqler wrote, On 4/07/09 15:42:


On 3 Jul 2009, at 00:40, Tony Firshman wrote:

 and I will probably bring my Macbook Pro rather than QL 
hardware.  I have given most of my QL stuff to Rich Mellor.


My MacBook Pro runs Windows XP and so, of course, QPC2 too.



... so does mine, and Qemulator.


Whew! Glad to hear it ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] I need help!!!

2009-06-19 Thread P Witte

Bob Spelten writes:


What are these popup help routines? They sound interesting.

It is an example routine, how to make Hint windows popup in EasyPtr 
programs.

It was described in QL Today volume 10, issue 3.
It was on one of the QLT disks and can also be found on Per's site.
(http://www.witteware.com/knoware/)


Sorry, the site is currently down while I search for a cheaper host.

My articles Taking a Hint (pop-up hints and reading lines longer than 
can be displayed in a regular grid), and Pox (using pop-up windows 
larger than, or outside, the main program outline) were intended to 
demonstrate that much of the stuff weve become accustomed to in modern 
mainstream programs are relatively easily achievable on QL systems 
too. Most of the techniques used wont be news for many of the 
contributors to this thread. Anyone else can simply use and modify the 
S*Basic routines listed.


An upcoming article (Ive been told it will appear in the next QLT), 
Resz, is about interactive resizing of windows It was inspired by 
Ralf Reköndt's comment on this list: ..how nice [it would be] to use 
the Windows facility of changing a window size in the lower right edge 
of a window.. - and the subsequent discussion.


My demo in the latter article shows up an annoying (lack of?) feature 
in ptrgen that it doesnt recognise that a mouse button is pressed when 
it initialises: it assumes buttons are up :o(


And while we are at it: It would be great if ptrgen would be extended 
to allow registering a keystroke modifier, such as ALT, CTRL and SHIFT 
together with a mousebutton press. A couple of spare bits in the 
pointer record might be available for this? That would allow mass 
selects and toggles, as in Windows etc.


Thanks to Dilwyn and others for the brief demo on using scrollbars!

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Re: [Ql-Users] I need help!!!

2009-06-19 Thread P Witte


I wrote:

An upcoming article (Ive been told it will appear in the next QLT), 
Resz, is about interactive resizing of windows 


That should be Wresz, not that its important..




Thanks to Dilwyn and others for the brief demo on using scrollbars!


By others I meant Bob Spelten, of course ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] uqlx-win32

2009-05-05 Thread P Witte
Id be interested in such a package. Had a go with Cygwin/uQLx some 
time ago but had only limited success. Getting rid of the debris was a 
pain, iirc.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:


I did get an earlier version running once, of uQLx-Win32, on a WIN98 
machine, with the help of Phoebus at that time.
I think this is the point - without help it can't be got running if you 
don't know about Cygwin environment.


As only 6 files are needed, surely it would make more sense to just 
provide these? Probably not strictly legal packaging up 6 files from the 
package I guess but what fool is going to download hundreds of megabytes 
just to get 6 files to get a single emulator running?



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[Ql-Users] QL is 25 bash

2009-04-19 Thread P Witte

Well? How did it go? Where can we view the pics?

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today article.

2009-03-30 Thread P Witte
Thanks for the clarification, Roy. And sorry you had to make it. 
Thanks for the service, subsidy and fun you have provided over the 
years! I wish you better satisfaction with your other ventures.


Per

Roy wood wrote:


I have spent the last week deliberating about whether to write anything 
here about the article in QL Today. In some ways I was very disinclined 
to do it because I did not want it to turn in one of those acrimonious 
arguments that run on these pages.


I would, however, like to run in a little background information.


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Re: [Ql-Users] SINCLAIR QL's 25th birthday

2009-03-25 Thread P Witte
I found the original receipt of my first QL ;o) Its dated 12th March 
1985, serial no. D12-059637. It sported JM ROM. Viking, Norway were 
the distributors, although this was a UK version, not a Norwegian 
model. The price was a whopping 6900 NOK, or about £600.


A month or two later I bought a Cub colour monitor and a Brother EP44 
typewriter/printer. The Cub blew up after a few weeks, but the QL has 
worked flawlessly for years and, AFAIK, still does. The only repair I 
can remember having made was replacing the keyboard membrane.


Prior to all that I had waited months for the QL to arrive in Norway. 
In the end I bought some other home micro instead. A lot of people 
deride the QL microdrives, but they never gave me much trouble, apart 
from being rather slow. The alternative for most home micros of the 
day was a tape deck which, to my mind was a lot worse. That was the 
case with the one I bought. I hated it and sold it again when the QL 
finally arrived; technically the best machine of its time!


In the summer of '85 I went on holiday to the UK. There I ordered a 
Medic 512k interface with dual 3.5 floppies. When it didnt arrive on 
the date promised, I went to Basingstoke to pick it up in person. The 
address I was given turned out to be an empty house! I spent the 
better part of the day sleuthing, which included a phone call to QL 
World (or User), who warned me, off the record, that there was 
something fishy going on at Medic.


However I finally located the Medic workshop. Mr Whatshisname was 
there (as was Mr Beatty, of Sector Software) and explained the trouble 
they were having with suppliers, etc, which was the reason for the 
delay. Being forewarned, I opted to take away the stuff without 
finished software or the cover on the interface. Luckily! as a few 
months after the whiff came the bang!


Ah, happy days!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Last chance saloon?

2009-02-08 Thread P Witte
Did I just hear the sound of another nail going in the coffin or was 
that just my drunken neighbour falling down the stair again ?


Per

Geoff Wicks wrote:

The Just Words! website is due to close in a weeks time.

The site host, Lycos, is cutting out all unprofitable activities, and although 
they promised site hosting would remain until at least the end of March they 
have now brought the closure forward to 15th February.

I have been investigating alternative hosts with the intention of making the 
site a little more professional and until this weekend was intending to 
relaunch the site as soon as possible. I am now having serious second thoughts 
and may keep the site permanently closed.

Rewriting the site for a new host will be a time consuming task given the numerous links that have to be changed and I have to consider whether the usage of the site - 9 people per week - justifies this time investment. 

QL activities take up much of my time that could be devoted to other things. In particular I have a number of family history projects that are on permanent hold. I have still not kept a promise to a niece that I made 3 years ago. 


It is very tempting to abandon the QL to be able to spend more time on family 
history. The last time I wrote anything for one of the family history magazines 
I was paid generously for my work. The article produced a large number of 
reactions including one from a distant relative I had never heard of before and 
who had masses of family photos. In return she got a mass of detail from me 
that peviously she had known nothing about. The QL prevents from doing more 
work like this.

If you want something from the Just Words! website, download it in the next 7 
days,

Best wishes,

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Re: [Ql-Users] slowdown

2009-01-27 Thread P Witte
I prefer Process Explorer, available from 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/default.aspx or 
www.sysinternals.com. Its a more advanced version of the built-in one. 
 Perhaps more palatable for sub-planet-sized brains ;o) It usually 
does the job for me


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:



Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Help. My laptop has been driving me mad today with the constant
disk activity. I've spent most of the day trying to find out what is 
going on and drawn a blank.


Check out ProcMon, it will perhaps tell you what caused the activity:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx

Marcel



Wow, creates a HUGE amount of data, most of it meaningless to me.

The FileOpen etc activity seems to be caused by a 'softmodem' and the 
wireless RaLink card. Even when turned off and not connected to the router.


Regular QueryOpen, CreateFile, QueryNetworkOpenInformationFile, 
QueryStandardInformationFile, CloseFile


Masses of RegOpenKey, RegCloseKey etc. (don't know what they all mean).

Nothing that really ties in as far as I can tell.

No toolbars or anything new installed in the last couple of days.

Even sound gets affected, a simple system Ping sound gets broken up into 
P-i-n-g sounding like an underwater bubbling sci-fi sound!



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Re: [Ql-Users] Pointer test

2009-01-27 Thread P Witte
I suppose what TT calls Window Request (see way down below) is the QL 
equivalent of a 'desktop' type job in this case. Anyway, thats the 
sort of thing that appears to be missing here. Im glad to hear that 
you have managed to work around the issue in your super QDT. But Im 
unsure whether you have also solved the problem I mentioned initially?


Hmm, Ive just checked a solitaire-type card game Im (theoretically) 
working on. I use drag and drop there, which involves, among other 
steps, creating a window, outline and all, containing the card I want 
to move. Amazingly, it works just as it should! I right-click on a 
card to pick it up, drag it to some other location and let go of the 
button to drop it. So I may have found a workaround after all! (One 
can see an illustration at my website under Games/Cabal). I'll have to 
investigate..


Per

James Hunkins wrote:


Exactly - if you are moving icons between windows, you need to take 
control of it all. I actually got carried away as I was dragging between 
desktop and separate windows, all with different jobs. All I can say is 
that database sharing the the QL message passing stuff works quite well.


We have to do a bit more on the QL than for example Windows as we don't 
seem to have a separate 'desktop' type job (which is why the icons in 
QDT do not automatically redraw in all cases) but it still works quite 
well.


jim


On 26-Jan-09, at 3:07 PM, P Witte wrote:

James Hunkins wrote:

You will have had better success than me, then. But I find that unless
I have exclusive rights to the screen it is easy to loose the sprite
and mess up the operation. It is many years since I worked on this
problem, so I cant remember what I tried. I suppose one could OUTLine
the whole screen..

Per
I do custom sprites for copy and moving with QDT, using the different 
pointer routines. Maybe not usable from within an existing call but 
doable.

jim
On 25-Jan-09, at 1:14 PM, P Witte wrote:
gdgqler wrote:

On 25 Jan 2009, at 13:18, P Witte wrote:


Ive been fiddling with a program of mine, wondering why I cant make 
it work. The problem boils down to the following: The code below 
does exactly what it should, EXCEPT the first time it is run! To 
test it do the following:


(You need ptrmen, the EasyPointer [EP] toolkit, loaded). Fire up a 
SB daughter job (the example expects at least two QL windows #0  
#1.) LOAD the program, type run and then press and hold ENTER or the 
RMB (ie DO) to execute. The first time it runs it displays Key up 
although a key is actually down! You need to release the key and 
then depress it again to get the correct result. Subsequent 
execution also gives the right result. To reset it, you need to 
start it in a pristine SB job again (ie one that has not yet had its 
OUTLine set).


I suspect the problem lies with the PI rather than EP. Its 
annoying because it prevents some fine tweaking of a user interface 
Im working on - and because its just plain wrong. Ive spent more 
time than I can afford on trying to work around the problem, to no 
avail. Any ideas?


Per

1 DIM pv%(15)
2 x% = -1: y% = -1
3 mv% = 1 + 2 + 4
4 :
5 OUTL#0
6 CLS
7 RDPT#0; 48, x%, y%
8 :
9 PRINT; 'HIT or DO. ESC to quit'
10 :
11 REPeat loop
12  RDPT#0; mv%, x%, y%: PVAL#0; pv%
13  AT 2,0
14  IF pv%(7)  4: PRINT 'key up',: ELSE : PRINT 'key down',
15  IF pv%(6) = 27: EXIT loop
16 END REPeat loop
17 :
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This looks like the trouble I had with the resizing by outline 
program. When the second program starts, although I am holding down 
the mouse button, the PE software does not acknowledge this. I had to 
test first for a mouse button being down. Once the PE software 
accepts this then I can test for button up.

George
Exactly! So much for drag'n drop on the QL. Bummer ;o( Another pity is 
that the so called Window Request (bit #7 set in termination vector) 
only allows a limited number of pointer sprites to be used (move, 
resize and empty window). It would have been nice to be able to use 
any sprite, thus allowing, for example, a sprite (representing some 
object) to be dragged from one window and dropped on another. When I 
retire in about 2025 I'll take a look at these issues ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] Pointer test

2009-01-26 Thread P Witte

James Hunkins wrote:

You will have had better success than me, then. But I find that unless
I have exclusive rights to the screen it is easy to loose the sprite
and mess up the operation. It is many years since I worked on this
problem, so I cant remember what I tried. I suppose one could OUTLine
the whole screen..

Per
I do custom sprites for copy and moving with QDT, using the different 
pointer routines. Maybe not usable from within an existing call but doable.


jim


On 25-Jan-09, at 1:14 PM, P Witte wrote:

gdgqler wrote:

On 25 Jan 2009, at 13:18, P Witte wrote:


Ive been fiddling with a program of mine, wondering why I cant make 
it work. The problem boils down to the following: The code below does 
exactly what it should, EXCEPT the first time it is run! To test it 
do the following:


(You need ptrmen, the EasyPointer [EP] toolkit, loaded). Fire up a SB 
daughter job (the example expects at least two QL windows #0  #1.) 
LOAD the program, type run and then press and hold ENTER or the RMB 
(ie DO) to execute. The first time it runs it displays Key up 
although a key is actually down! You need to release the key and then 
depress it again to get the correct result. Subsequent execution also 
gives the right result. To reset it, you need to start it in a 
pristine SB job again (ie one that has not yet had its OUTLine set).


I suspect the problem lies with the PI rather than EP. Its annoying 
because it prevents some fine tweaking of a user interface Im working 
on - and because its just plain wrong. Ive spent more time than I can 
afford on trying to work around the problem, to no avail. Any ideas?


Per

1 DIM pv%(15)
2 x% = -1: y% = -1
3 mv% = 1 + 2 + 4
4 :
5 OUTL#0
6 CLS
7 RDPT#0; 48, x%, y%
8 :
9 PRINT; 'HIT or DO. ESC to quit'
10 :
11 REPeat loop
12  RDPT#0; mv%, x%, y%: PVAL#0; pv%
13  AT 2,0
14  IF pv%(7)  4: PRINT 'key up',: ELSE : PRINT 'key down',
15  IF pv%(6) = 27: EXIT loop
16 END REPeat loop
17 :
___
This looks like the trouble I had with the resizing by outline 
program. When the second program starts, although I am holding down 
the mouse button, the PE software does not acknowledge this. I had to 
test first for a mouse button being down. Once the PE software accepts 
this then I can test for button up.

George


Exactly! So much for drag'n drop on the QL. Bummer ;o( Another pity is 
that the so called Window Request (bit #7 set in termination vector) 
only allows a limited number of pointer sprites to be used (move, resize 
and empty window). It would have been nice to be able to use any sprite, 
thus allowing, for example, a sprite (representing some object) to be 
dragged from one window and dropped on another. When I retire in about 
2025 I'll take a look at these issues ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] Pointer test

2009-01-25 Thread P Witte

gdgqler wrote:



On 25 Jan 2009, at 13:18, P Witte wrote:



Ive been fiddling with a program of mine, wondering why I cant make it 
work. The problem boils down to the following: The code below does 
exactly what it should, EXCEPT the first time it is run! To test it do 
the following:


(You need ptrmen, the EasyPointer [EP] toolkit, loaded). Fire up a SB 
daughter job (the example expects at least two QL windows #0  #1.) 
LOAD the program, type run and then press and hold ENTER or the RMB 
(ie DO) to execute. The first time it runs it displays Key up 
although a key is actually down! You need to release the key and then 
depress it again to get the correct result. Subsequent execution also 
gives the right result. To reset it, you need to start it in a 
pristine SB job again (ie one that has not yet had its OUTLine set).


I suspect the problem lies with the PI rather than EP. Its annoying 
because it prevents some fine tweaking of a user interface Im working 
on - and because its just plain wrong. Ive spent more time than I can 
afford on trying to work around the problem, to no avail. Any ideas?


Per

1 DIM pv%(15)
2 x% = -1: y% = -1
3 mv% = 1 + 2 + 4
4 :
5 OUTL#0
6 CLS
7 RDPT#0; 48, x%, y%
8 :
9 PRINT; 'HIT or DO. ESC to quit'
10 :
11 REPeat loop
12  RDPT#0; mv%, x%, y%: PVAL#0; pv%
13  AT 2,0
14  IF pv%(7)  4: PRINT 'key up',: ELSE : PRINT 'key down',
15  IF pv%(6) = 27: EXIT loop
16 END REPeat loop
17 :
___



This looks like the trouble I had with the resizing by outline program. 
When the second program starts, although I am holding down the mouse 
button, the PE software does not acknowledge this. I had to test first 
for a mouse button being down. Once the PE software accepts this then I 
can test for button up.


George


Exactly! So much for drag'n drop on the QL. Bummer ;o( Another pity is 
that the so called Window Request (bit #7 set in termination vector) 
only allows a limited number of pointer sprites to be used (move, 
resize and empty window). It would have been nice to be able to use 
any sprite, thus allowing, for example, a sprite (representing some 
object) to be dragged from one window and dropped on another. When I 
retire in about 2025 I'll take a look at these issues ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Merry X-Mas

2008-12-25 Thread P Witte

Norman Dunbar writes:


 Ok, mine arrived today at about 14:30. I have just about finished
 reading it and it is now 16:34!


Thats the downside to being a contributer ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] Program updates

2008-12-23 Thread P Witte
Hello Norman


 Prowess is an alternative window manager. We were discussing an idea 
 for simulating outline dragging in Wman.

 Yes, I know. My point being that Prowess was built on top of WMAN wasn't
 it? I'm sure that in order to run Prowess, WMAN had to be loaded. If so,
 and they managed this new border-dragging-resize then surely, WMAN must
 have had something to do with it under the covers?

Im far away from home right now, so cant check, but I think not. Prowess is an 
alternative to Wman and therefor had the freedom to do things differently. I 
was trying to push the envelope of Wman to see whether it could be pressed into 
behaving as weve come to expect from the competition. I found the Application 
(sub) Windows to be the most versatile, although very clumsy to use. Using AWs 
you can simulate stretch bars of all kinds
/ Corner (2 AWs)
  +-+
  |   |- Side
  |  |   - Divider
  |   |
  +-+
  ^
   |  Up/Down

To do all of those at once requires about 13 of them, so its really fiddly 
business. Some reasons to use AWs are that the PI will do the work of detecting 
the window in focus and any buttons pressed, as well as displaying the pointers 
of your choice, eg resize up/down or sideways or corner.

Using an AW as a title bar simplifies simulating the effect of moving a window 
by dragging it via its titlebar. Its not perfect, as it complicates having 
other objects there as well. So you either have to make your own display 
routines, use multiple AWs, or accept a patchy titlebar. You can also use AWs 
to create the effect of different layouts, etc. But its all rather cumbersome. 
EasyMenu can only work with 32 AWs, if I remember correctly, so you may soon 
run out of slots.. Info Windows can also be used in many non-obvious ways for 
all kinds of decoration. You can use them to create lines and shadows, and also 
use them to fake states, hide stuff, etc.

I dont suppose weve ever seen a program that uses Wman to its full extent, 
mainly because its 1) difficult to get to grips with (complex and lacking in 
documentation) 2) Fiddly and inflexible, and 3) doesnt lend itself to 
objectifying: Due to the data structures it is virtually impossible to create 
re-usable object libraries. Still, it is reasonably compact (as these things 
go) and fast, and I suppose those where more important criteria at the time of 
design.

Its possible to write pointer-driven programs that dont use Wman at all. I have 
written a few myself in S*Basic. They can be much more flexible, but tend to 
look rather clunky unless you are prepared to use lots of resources and effort 
on the pixel-, rather than character- level. 

 Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but with WMAN I can set the OUTLN of my
 window initially, then when doing a move, I can set it to the new
 location and preserve the contents.

 In addition, I can tell when the pointer goes onto the border (can't I?)
 and when a mouse is down.

The internal window move routine only returns on completion so you cant 
(easily) read the pointer record at the same time.



Seasons best and all that,

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Re: [Ql-Users] Program updates

2008-12-19 Thread P Witte
Actually it is quite possible to do what Dilwyn says, as I demonstrate 
in my FastFind program, released in 2002. You simply set the outline 
to the whole screen without clearing the window. You have to provide 
your own drawing routine, of course, to draw the interactive 
outline. Once the user is satisfied, the outline is set to the 
desired size and the application window is redrawn.


In fact, FF demonstrates a number of techniques I, at least, have 
never seen on the QL before, such as dropping the Move icon in favour 
of using most of the title bar, resize, as described, MRU lists, etc.


This was my first attempt at a program that put form over 
functionality, so its main function, finding stuff quickly, as the 
name suggests, was/is a bit patchy and incomplete, although there is 
some internal stuff too, that you wont find elsewhere, such as date 
input menus, sophisticated wild card searches, my Memory Manager 
(allowing for reserving and releasing tiny amounts of memory without 
the heap fragmentation penalties of QDOS) etc. I dont think anyone 
except Marcel ever bothered even to try it, so I cant be bothered to 
waste any more time on improving it.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Although I haven't tried it, I daresay that if the outline is a  thin 
application window to the left and another above the icon you  
mention, it might be possible to click on this and to drag the  
outline horizontally or vertically (instead of diagonally).  
Additionally, if a different pointer (e.g. small double arrow) is  
defined for these thin windows the pointer could change as it moves  
into these windows.


The problem with this is that you are confined to the current PE  
outline which is the current size of its main window. So you can  
print an outline which can be altered but not made bigger than the  
current window. This means that you can reduce the size of window by  
this means but cannot increase it. My solution is to use another  
program altogether to draw the outline which can be made as large as  
the whole screen.

Ah, yes, the outline size limit of course.

Ah well, nice idea while it lasted :-(


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Re: [Ql-Users] stop printing

2008-12-16 Thread P Witte
The first thing I do is remove the paper from the input tray. Then 
cancel the print job in Windoze. Then switch the printer on and off 
until its print buffer has emptied. Eventually all parts of the chain 
error out or give up in exhaustion. The details depend on your OS 
version, printer and setup, of course.


Its a horrible business. Cant think why M$ and the printer makers 
havent been able to find a solution to this in all these years, but I 
suppose they dont really mind: Our pain is their gain.


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

I accidentally started an enourmous SDUMP printout from QPC and can't stop it!

I've used PAR_ABORT and PAR_CLEAR in QPC2 and tried deleting the print job in 
Windoze. No joy - it looks like Winodze will only stop it at the end of the 
print job. Closing down Windoze and switching off the printer just makes it 
resume when the computer's restarted.

I forgot I was sending an SDUMP print for Epsons to a HP printer which ain't Epson 
compatible. So it prints every byte of graphics data as text, about 2 or 3 
characters per page. At this rate the house will be buried in paper. Anyone know how to 
force Windoze to stop???

Help! (Put Windoze on pause for now, but it will stop anything else printing 
until I can clear it)


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Re: [Ql-Users] *** SPAM *** EasyPEasy et al

2008-12-01 Thread P Witte

George Gwilt wrote:


EasyPEasy is intended to make it easier to write PE programs using 
Assembly Language.



Had a little peek and it seems promising ;o) I have sooo little time 
for any programming myself at the moment that it will be a while 
before I get to use it ;o( Just dont stop developing because you think 
 theres no interest! Yes, we are dwindling in number, but who knows 
what the future holds? And if that future never arrives, us hangers-on 
will not live to know it. In the mean time, theres still a lot of 
intellectual stimulus, useful work and not least, good fun, to be had 
from the old QL!


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Re: [Ql-Users] Loose Items and sprites.

2008-10-16 Thread P Witte
Just a quick answer: Are yoiu aware of the document called display_txt 
in the extras/doc folder in the SMSQ/E sources? It explains the new 
(and old) sprite formats in great detail. I think you may finbd some 
mopre answers there..


Per

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Is there any way to use one of the predefined sprites as a loose item
object in a manner similar to how we can set the window sprite to 0 and
get the default arrow pointer etc.

I want to put the default sprites for move, sleep, wake, resize etc into
loose items so that I don't end up having the clunky mode 4 sprites
showing when I'm in high colour and so on.

I've set up a loose item and used all values between 0 and 20 - so far -
and  got a few hits, but it doesn't match up to the various pointer
sprite values.

So far I have these values :

0 = blank (or something white - I have a white background so I may not
see it!)
1, 4, 5, 10, 15, 18, 17 = a Red 'X'.
2, 3, 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 19, 20 = Fatal error.
6 = a magenta 'CF1'
8 = a green bent arrow pointing to the left and down.
16 = a small '8', green on a black background.

What I'm after is to set up loose items with a non-pointer to the
internal sprites rather than me designing something that is going to
look daft in high colour mode, for example, when I activate MOVE by a
CTRL+F4, say, I get a nice pair of interlocking 'windows' which looks
nothing like the sprite I'm currently using. I'd like my loose items'
sprites to look like the pointers that appear when activated.

Thanks.


Cheers,
Norman.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SQLUG Website

2008-10-12 Thread P Witte

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have 125 MB of space although currently about half of that is in use 
but as the initial rush to use the QL Forums has died off and no-one has 
been there for over a fortnight, I'm seriously considering removing the 
forum again as a non-starter.


Norman, your documentation site is great! It must have been 
painstaking work! Much too good for the likes of us ;o)  I hope people 
will support it and add to it. There are already pockets of such 
information available on various sites. I wish the people behind would 
help to add their information to your site. Perhaps some prompting 
from you if you see anything appropriate might do the trick?


Regarding the forum, AFAIC, the ql-users list serves most of my needs. 
With communications as sparse as they are at the moment is there 
really a need for another forum? Of course, if it were to stimulate a 
renewed enthusiasm, I certainly would welcome it ;o)


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Re: [Ql-Users] sub-£100 notebook

2008-09-06 Thread P Witte
After using the eeePC 701 for a while, I gave it up as too limiting 
for my purposes. The battery life is crap, the fan whirres incessantly 
because the thing produces far too much heat. It also seems stupid to 
put up with a 7 screen when the box is more like 10. So all in all, 
after the initial rush I find I need something a little more 
sophisticated to get by on the move whilst having a real PC at home. 
The 901 seems a lot more promising but theyre still flogging the 
inferior 900s here, so itll have to wait. On the other hand, a couple 
of hundred ££ more will get you a real sub notebook..


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Re: [Ql-Users] hypertext query

2008-08-25 Thread P Witte
Dont know if it ever materialised for the QL. There was a program for 
the Atari ST called Hypertext. Perhaps your correspondent was thinking 
of that?


Per

Dilwyn Jones wrote:

Can anyone help with this query I've just received?

Dilwyn Jones

I'm trying to locate information about software I used on a QL in the 
mid-80s. As far as I
remember it was called something 'Hypertext'. It offered hypertext 
jumps in documents and
ran via a C compiler. I'd welcome any information on it that you know 
about or any pointers

to other that might know more.
TL 



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Re: [Ql-Users] Random

2008-07-18 Thread P Witte

Andy Barber wrote:


Can I use z%=RND(-1,0,1)?


RND takes the parameter(s) RND([[min%] TO ] max%) to return a quasi 
random integer between min% and max%. Or you can use RND on its own, 
in which case it returns a fp number between 0 and 1



Will this give me a 33.3...% chance of giving a random number?


What are the remaining 66.66..% to be?

Is this what youre trying to achieve:

SELect ON z% = 1: PRINT 1: = 2: PRINT RND: = 3: PRINT 3

or something different?

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Re: [Ql-Users] I want a NEW QL

2008-06-17 Thread P Witte

Andy Barber writes:



I have decided that I'll get my old Pentium 1 computer out of my

 Lock-up, Format the HD, Install Ubuntu Linux,  emulate the QL on
 that machine. I have the QL Emulators' CD, which has TK2 on it,

has it also got Minerva on the CD as well?


The best QL emulator is undoubtedly QPC2, (commercial). But sadly it 
doesnt run under Linux. Also it doesnt run very satisfactorily under 
Wine ( - although it almost does!).


If you have an old copy of Windows kicking around, you should be able 
to run it in a virtual machine under Linux and run QPC2 on that (Ive 
tested the free VirtualBox on a Vista machine and run QPC2 quite 
happily on a virtual W2k. VirtualBox runs under Linux too.


I havent tested Qemulator, another, excellent commercial emulator, in 
the same way. It should be interesting to see whether it runs under 
Wine. I couldnt get QL2k to run under Wine, but I havent yet 
thoroughly debugged my setup and the boot process - there is still hope.


Last but not least, theres uQLx, which runs under Linux and is free. 
Not much development seems to be happening on that front at the 
moment. It doesnt do hicolor and Im not sure it will run SMSQ/E, the 
latest, and some would say the best, incarnation of Qdos. However, it 
is very much to the taste of old Linux aficionados, Qdos purists and 
SMSQ/E license dissenters (Im not commenting, only referring ;-) 
Hardware purists, of course, excluded.


And this is where you may have to choose. Where lies your identity in 
QL-hell?


Only joking. Welcome to the group(s)!


Now what I would like to know is how does QDOS/SuperBasic interface

 with the Linux TCP/IP ports, are their any Internet related QL
 programs existing, (Browser, Mail, News, RSS, FTP, etc.)?

We all write our own here.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Benchmarks

2008-05-12 Thread P Witte

Jimmy writes:


Hi Per,

Stock speed of the EEE PC is 630 Mhz as Asus decide to downgrade bus speed to 
70 Mhz instead it's nominal
100 MHz speed.

This can be tweaking by overclocking as I've do it under Windows.

But there is some problems doing this :
- Battery life is incredible less (about half an hour)
- Temperature of the EEC PC goes from 45°C to 55°C


Aah, thats why.. :(


Your bench is interesting...


Thanks. Id be interested to hear about the modifications you made..

I will test QL2K too, but Ive run out of time for now.

Just noticed an error in my figures: The VAXmips line in GCC Dhrystone 
was wrong:


eee Comparative Benchmarks
   20080512b

1 2345
|  eee   |   NB   |   PC   |   QXL  |  SGC/Au|

#   C68 Dhrystone v2.1

ms/DS   |  47|  24|10.6| -  |-   |
DS/s|  21,115|  41,632|  93,985|   8,892|   5,000|
VAXmips |  12,018|  23,695|  53,492| 5.1|-   |

#   GCC Dhrystone v2.1

ms/DS   |  37|  19| 8.5|||
DS/s|  26,724|  53,419| 118,204|||
VAXmips |  15,210|  30,403|  67,276|||

#   Bogomips v1.4

bogomips|   28   |   58   |  165   | |   13.8|

1) eee PC, 4Gb Surf, 630MHz, running the inbuilt Linux, latest
   Wine and QPC2
2) Notebook, 1.2GHz, 600MHz FSB, WXP
3) PC, 2 Core duo, 2.66GHz, Vista
4) QXL 20 MHz under W98 DISP_UPDATE 1,0 (D Santachiara, 28/08/1999)
5) SGC/Aurora/24MHz/4Mb/SMSQ/E2.90/Cache on (JG  P Witte, March 1999)

9 years ago it seems we were happy to put up with a fraction of
the speed of the eee PC!

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Re: [Ql-Users] QXL.WIN internal format?

2008-04-26 Thread P Witte
John Hall writes:

 Hi, Norman.
 
 The chain actually belongs to the header/map and map entry $F
 (containing $) is the last in the chain.
 Hmmm, see above. This is where I seem to lose the plot. Are you
 saying that the zero block in the map, holding $0001 is telling me
 (a) where on disc to find the 4 sectors for this block PLUS (b)
 where the second block in this file is (ie, map entry $0001).
 
 Hmm... the map chain is, perhaps, a bad example because it is not
 actually associated with a file.
 
 Consider the root directory:
 
 The medium header tells us that its first group number is $10, i.e.
 its first 4 sectors are sectors $40, $41, $42, $43 on the disk.
 
 If the $10-th entry in the map is zero, the directory is contained
 within those 4 sectors.
 
 If not, the map entry tells us its next group number, i.e. where its
 next 4 sectors are.
 
 For your disk, the $10-th map entry is $5c, so the 5th sector is
 sector $170 (since $5c*4 = $170) and the 8th sector is sector $173.
 
 If the directory is more than eight sectors in length, the $5c-th
 entry will be non-zero, and so on...
 
 For all other files, the first group number is, as you say, stored in
 the directory entry (offset $3a) for that file.

Good stuff all this. I hope someone's taking notes! It would be nice 
to have this information in a neat documentary form. Luckily, this 
seems to be what Norman (condolences!)is trying to do with his 
well-made and useful QDOSMSQ.Dunbar-it.co.uk site. Thanks guys!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Xchange with HP Laserprinter

2008-04-19 Thread P Witte
Christopher Cave writes:

 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have just collected my LaserJet 6P from the repairers and would like 
 to be able to use it with PSION programs. So, if anyone has already set 
 up the Psion driver for this, or similar LJets, I too would very much 
 like to know. In the meantime, does anyone have a driver for a DeskJet 
 500? For this machine I don't even have a user's manual.


Ive got Psion XChange drivers for HP Deskjet. Think it was for a 500 
or 550. I seem to remember the settings for many early DeskJets and 
LaserJets were more or less the same.

Mail me off-list if you want a copy of the xchange_dat, or download 
and install PED off my website (www.witteware.com/knoware, 
Programs/Utilities/PED); an XChange deskjet driver is included there.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc

2008-04-08 Thread P Witte
Hi Fabrizio and anyone else whove tried the Asus EeePc. Is it any good?
Can you happily run a QL emulator on it (particularly QPC2)? My notebook
has to be retired a year or so early due to a cracked hinge and I need
to find a temporary replacement.

Per

Fabrizio Diversi wrote:
 Ciao,
 maybe could be of interest that, as Per request, I tested Qpc on my new Asus 
 EeePc . It works perfectly with an amazing speed index of 84 with Qpc under 
 WinXp 
 Not tested under linux (uqlx) or qpc under wine.

 This piece of hardware is really value added for what provide respect to the 
 cost.

 Ciao

 Fabrizio


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 Da: George Gwilt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Inviato: Venerdì 18 gennaio 2008, 6:44:40
 Oggetto: Re: [Ql-Users] List problems


 On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:58, Per Witte wrote:

   
 Who the hell is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never sent anything to
 them. And where's the mail been these past 8 days? And how come they
 arrived on the list, but I didnt get a copy?

 Apart from changing my address and resubscribing a few days ago, Ive
 done no wrong.

 Uuugh! Just now 4 more mails were returned, some of them including a
 copies of mails sent - and seen  - on the list in November 2007!!  
 Is the
 list host spinning out or what?
 


 A baker's dozen of my old emails also have been returned. One was  
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Re: [Ql-Users] Sprites

2008-03-13 Thread P Witte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 OK, I had a look at it.
 It seems that the sprite definition is not quite correct:
 
 blank_sprite
  dc.w 1,0    this should be $0100, 0 I think.
 
 SNIP
 
 Not sure whether that really is important now.
 
 Well it might save me problems when I get around to discussing sprites and 
 pointers in my articles - so thanks. And maybe Rich will appreciate it as 
 well!

If theres still a problem try making the size 2x1. (PI v2.x can cope 
with a 0x0 sized sprite.)

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Re: [Ql-Users] Qdos Internals - rises again!

2008-03-13 Thread P Witte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 The web site formerly known as 'Qdos Internals' has been off line for some 
 time but now it is (almost) back again!
 
 I have apparently got 5 sub-domains at dunbar-it.co.uk so I've paid a hosting 
 company the massive sum of £2.00 per month (or £22.00 per year) to give me 
 125 MB and a decent bandwidth, plus I can just about install anything I want 
 with very few restriction. (www.5quidhost.co.uk) They have a free option too 
 - pay them a visit, you might be pleasantly surprised.
 
 Anyway, I've created a Wiki on my sub-domain and I'm in the process of 
 converting my old HTML pages into a Wiki format. Once I'm done with the 
 conversion, I'll be opening the Wiki up to all and sundry (well, to 
 subscribers only) so that we can collectively create the definitive online 
 QDOS SMSQ/E repository of knowledge! (or something like that anyway).
 
 The web site is www.qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk - remember it is under 
 construction but I find a Wiki easier to create and change as I'm behind a 
 huge firewall at work, so lunch time updates as in the past, are no longer 
 possible as FTP etc is restricted.
 
 Maybe one day I'll actually finish it!

Potentially stunning! ;o)

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Re: [Ql-Users] IOP_RPTR event vector - where is it documented.

2008-02-26 Thread P Witte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 However, when that was drafted (at least the copy I have), the job
 event byte (sending events to jobs) didn't exist yet, I presume it is
 NOT zero'd on exit, but am not sure.
 Well my experiments, granted very simple, show the LSB ony is non-zero
  the remainder are zero. Mind you, how exactly do I send an event to 
a job?
 
 If I PICK the job, or button frame it, then DO it's button, I get the same
  event both times - $2D with a Key Stroke of $08.

These are a different kind of event. You need to use a trap 
(sms.sevt)to send a job event. Used for jobs communication.

Eg job A, a game say, is at the top of its program loop waiting for 
either user input or a job event (using mcallt in EP). Another job, 
job B, running an independent timer asynchronously, sends a 
pre-arranged event to job A signifying Time's up!. This triggers job 
A's call and drops into the program's time-out handling code.

The above it what I do in D-Miner. The Timer toolkit (source code 
included on www.witteware.com/knoware  toolkits/Timer) demonstrates a 
use of job events.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL2K

2008-02-12 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes:
 Has anyone had any experience in getting QL2K or QLay2 emulators to 
 print from the parallel port of a PC?
 
 My printer is connected to USB, so I can't test the printing.
 
I suppose youve considered using QPrint..?

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Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC

2008-01-29 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:

 Hi Malcolm,
 
 How exactly did you get Linux to co-exist with Windows XP ?
 
 No rocket science there.


There appears to be a problem with your clock, though, as that is 
about a month behind the times!

I had a number of dual-booted setups some years ago, in the time of 
W95..W98 and RedHat Linux V1.x..3.x. It was a bloody nightmare! 
Frequently the accumulated crash mess could only be resolved by a 
clean install of everything, and it could take days to put the system 
together again. In the end I gave up and stuck with Windows, as the 
only OS that could run my favourite QL emulator: QPC2.

 From what people have said on this list, Linux/Wine/QPC2 is not (yet) 
a very comfortable solution, so Im stuck with Windows a while yet, it 
seems.

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Re: [Ql-Users] List problems

2008-01-28 Thread P Witte
Tony Firshman writes:

 P Witte wrote:
 
 Per/
 PS: Did my mail re VirtualBox arrive? I sent that about 24hrs ago, 
 before reverting to my old email address.

 This one?
 
 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:11:51 +0100
 From: Per Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes. Thanks. All appears to work now after changing back from googlemail.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Portable computers - experiences

2008-01-28 Thread P Witte
Tony Firshman writes:


  My backup is my old notebook, and I aim to be able to use it at a 
moments notice.

Thats how I like it too. Presumably you mirror your data on the other 
machine? Do you use any particular tools for that, like a backup or 
version control program?

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Re: [Ql-Users] List problems

2008-01-27 Thread P Witte
I wrote:

P Witte wrote:
 Further to my list problems, Im reverting to my old address (luckily I 
 managed to revive it while I was in the UK for the holiday) to see if 
 it helps. Ie, this is a test.

It took 1 hour, but at least it arrived! While I was subscribed via my 
googlemail account, no mail from me to this list ever arrived in my 
own inbox. Perhaps its just something clever going on?

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Re: [Ql-Users] List problems

2008-01-27 Thread P Witte
Tony Firshman writes:
  P Witte wrote:
  I wrote:
 
  P Witte wrote:
  Further to my list problems, Im reverting to my old address 
(luckily I managed to revive it while I was in the UK for the holiday) 
to see if it helps. Ie, this is a test.
  It took 1 hour, but at least it arrived! While I was subscribed 
via my googlemail account, no mail from me to this list ever arrived 
in my own inbox. Perhaps its just something clever going on?
 
  Google (amongst others) often blacklist whole ISPs if they detect 
any one of the ISPs
  customers is the source of spam. Of course this is usually because 
their machines have been hijacked.
 
  This kind of unintelligent blocking is compromising the whole email 
system.  I for one now *never* rely on email for important info.

Youre right. email reliability has dropped for me too this past year 
or so. But people dont help either. They expect you to receive mails 
they send and react accordingly when you dont reply!

Per

PS: Did my mail re VirtualBox arrive? I sent that about 24hrs ago, 
before reverting to my old email address.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPC/Vista

2007-12-16 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes:

 Billy wrote:
 Is there an upgrade to a QPC version that works with Vista?
 
 Yes, 3.34 beta 3 is on my site. Don't be fooled by the beta, nobody
 has reported any problems so far.

A possible reason may be that not many QPC2 runners have Vista yet. 
However, Im pleased to report that Ive been using QPC2 3.34 beta 2 on 
Vista for a few days now, and all seems fine! Aero Glass an all! So: 
Well done, Marcel!

Taking the opportunity of wishing y'all the customary seasonal 
merriness and all that!

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[Ql-Users] Changes

2007-12-16 Thread P Witte
After the next five days, Im told, I can no longer use my 
fsbusiness.co.uk email account.

My new email address is pjwitte at googlemail dot com.

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Re: [Ql-Users] macros

2007-11-22 Thread P Witte


Dilwyn Jones wrote:
 Ah, this looks very promising - thanks.

 I would welcome ideas for other simple facilities to include. It was a 

1) Please let the macro file be human-readable rather than a binary 
dump. Easy to hand alter and debug!

2) Next version to include mouse-clicks too, eh ;-) I can think of 
ways to read them, but not to stuff them back into the inter-face.

Regarding the other side of your project: what to do once youve 
recorded the data, I wrote a keyword that stuffs the keyboard queue. 
The syntax for STUFF is:

 STUFF -timeout% | code% | string$ [, -timeout% | code% | 
string$ ] * (optionally repeated)

where:
 -timeout% is a negative integer from -1..-32k frames
 code% is a character code from 0..255
 string$   is a qstring

It uses legal traps and is supposed not to get confused by you 
changing keyboard queue midways.. You can find a copy on my website 
under Programs/Utilities/LX2. The zip file contains the STUFF_bin 
toolkit. Let me know if you can use it, with or without some modification.

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[Ql-Users] Whos a nerd?

2007-11-16 Thread P Witte
There are only 10 kinds of people: nerds, and the rest

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Re: [Ql-Users] Whos a nerd?

2007-11-16 Thread P Witte
P Witte wrote:

  There are only 10 kinds of people: nerds, and the rest

Or more precisely: There are only 10 kinds of people: Nerds and NOT nerds

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on a stick

2007-10-13 Thread P Witte
I wrote:

 Dilwyn Jones writes:
 
 
 The web page with information about QL On A Stick is now online:
 www.dilwyn.uk6.net/qos/index.html
 
 Nice piece of work that, Dilwyn!
  A round of applause, please, gents and ladies.

Ok, ok. Im sure we can stop now and get back to writing..

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Re: [Ql-Users] QL on a stick

2007-10-12 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes:


 The web page with information about QL On A Stick is now online:
 www.dilwyn.uk6.net/qos/index.html

Nice piece of work that, Dilwyn! A round of applause, please, gents 
and ladies.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tea for two?

2007-10-05 Thread P Witte
gwicks writes:

 Just a reminder that the Birmingham workshop is this weekend.

Im devastated, but I wont be able to attend this time :o( Wish you all 
a jolly time!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Using different devices

2007-09-03 Thread P Witte


Malcolm Cadman writes:

 Can anyone help me with using a portable Zip Drive as a source, running
 QPC, and being attached to 2 different PC's ( not at the same time ) ?



 Once QPC2 is running you can use the SBasic function QPC_NETNAME$ to
 find out which machine youre running under (provided youve set this
 under Windows first). I have different directories for the different
 platforms SMSQ/E runs under, containing the different
 platform-specific configuration files such as printer drivers,
 FileInfo2_cfg, MenuConf_inf, etc. On my QPC2 systems I use the net
 name to tell them apart.
 
 Umm ... can you explain more about how to set up a net name ?  I've not 
 used that feature. That is interesting.

Right click on the My Computer icon on the desktop, or open the System 
module in the Control Panel. Select the Computer Name tab and click on 
Change... then give your computer a nice name ;o) That name, which 
should be unique on your LAN, is returned by the function QPC_NETNAME$.

 Going back to what I said earlier ... having more that one boot file, 
 one loading another, using LRUN, seems to clear the BASIC memory area of 
 a windrive$ variable that I have just obtained from user input.
 
 I was hoping for a way of preserving that value, so that the next boot 
 file could then use the variable.

There are different ways of passing information to SBasic jobs:

o You can MRUN (or MERGE) stuff, of course. That retains the values of 
any variables set prior to MRUN.

o You can also use the EW/EX progname_bas; 'data' to pass 
information to a program or module, which in turn can read that 
information from the pseudo variable CMD$. Try this (call it 
ram1_test_bas):

100 open#1; 'con': cls#1: print#1; CMD$: pause#1: quit

thus:

EX ram1_test; 'data'

It should print 'data' to the screen. (Note you dont have to specify 
the _bas unless you also have a ram1_test_exe!)

o You can also use QUIT number to return a value from a sub program:

100 open#1; 'con': cls#1
110 IF CMD$ == 'data' then
120  print#1; 'ok!': pause#1; 100: quit 1000
130 ELSE
140  quit -15
150 END IF

Test with:

print FEW('ram1_test_bas'; 'data')

and

print FEW('ram1_test_bas'; 'x')

o You could also use the environmental varables, as implemented in 
Richard Zidlicski's(?) ENV_BIN

There are other ways too, but this should be a good start.

Bestaluck!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Using different devices

2007-09-03 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes:


 I can configure the shortcut to start in %CD%\QPC2\ (%CD%  being a
 system variable for the current directory). However the target and 
 icon locations appear, stupidly, to have to be specified exactly: 
 K:\QPC2\QPC2.exe. Is there a way around this?
 
 Probably not, but why exactly do you have the shortcut? Depending on
 why you use it, a batch file instead might be an option.

I thought it nicer just to have an icon in the root of the device 
rather than opening a folder first to locate the executable.. A batch 
file does the trick:

/qpc2/qpc2.exe

Problem is the console wont go away until I quit QPC2.. Thanks for the 
tip anyway!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Using different devices

2007-09-03 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes:

 I thought it nicer just to have an icon in the root of the device
 rather than opening a folder first to locate the executable.. A batch 
 file does the trick:

 /qpc2/qpc2.exe

 Problem is the console wont go away until I quit QPC2..
 
 Using
 
 start \qpc2\qpc2.exe
 
 in the file instead should do the trick.

In the end I settled for a QPC2.bat containing:

@echo off

title QPC2 Shortcut

start /d qpc2 /b qpc2.exe

 rem Bell  chr(7))

exit

Thanks again,

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Re: [Ql-Users] Mailing list [OT]

2007-09-02 Thread P Witte
Bruce N writes:
 Per,
 
 The list has been running on a US Web hosting account since 2003 run
 by a company called www.dreamhost.com .
 
 Bruce

Thanks for the information!

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Re: [Ql-Users] Using different devices

2007-09-02 Thread P Witte
Malcolm Cadman writes:

 Can anyone help me with using a portable Zip Drive as a source, running 
 QPC, and being attached to 2 different PC's ( not at the same time ) ?
 
 On the first computer it is seen as a source - win2_ - on the second 
 computer it is seen as a source - win4_
 
 The software - like QDT and Launchpad - is configured to recognise the 
 win drive source as - win2_
 
 Which means when the source is seen as - win4_ - this is not correct.
 
 Also, rather than have one very long boot file to load everything, I 
 have a number of small boot files that load one after the other, 
 depending on what configuration I am using.
 
 Is there an easy way to preserve the value the physical source - in this 
 case either as win2_ or win4_ across the different boot files ?
 
 Can DEV_USE do this ?
 
 Or an Environment variable ?
 
 At present my initial, short, boot file just gets input from the user as 
 to which computer is being used, which sets windrive$ to either be - 
 win2_ or win4_
 
 However, the value is not being held when the next boot file is loaded 
 with an LRUN.

Ive made a QPC2 system to run off a USB memory stick. This should be 
pretty much the same for a zip disk, but I'm not sure..

On the USB disk I have the following structure:

QPC2.lnk; Shortcut to QPC2
- QPC2 ; QPC2 program directory
QPC2.exe; QPC2 executable
..  ; other stuff
- win1
QXL.win ; win1_

- win2
QXL.win ; win2_
..

Ive configured QPC2 to use the following devices: \win1\QXL.win for 
win1_, \win2\QXL.win for win2_, etc

That means that whatever drive letter Windows issues for the USB drive 
QPC2 will always find my QXL.win files.

Once QPC2 is running you can use the SBasic function QPC_NETNAME$ to 
find out which machine youre running under (provided youve set this 
under Windows first). I have different directories for the different 
platforms SMSQ/E runs under, containing the different 
platform-specific configuration files such as printer drivers, 
FileInfo2_cfg, MenuConf_inf, etc. On my QPC2 systems I use the net 
name to tell them apart.

Thats all you really need to do to get QPC2 to work on different systems.

However, in my case I wanted to configure the Windows shortcut 
(QPC.lnk as above)to be drive letter-independent too, but that only 
partially worked. Perhaps someone knows a way of doing this?

I can configure the shortcut to start in %CD%\QPC2\ (%CD%  being a 
system variable for the current directory). However the target and 
icon locations appear, stupidly, to have to be specified exactly: 
K:\QPC2\QPC2.exe. Is there a way around this?

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[Ql-Users] Mailing list [OT]

2007-08-20 Thread P Witte
Im with another group who are considering a mailing list. This list 
has worked very well in recent years (regular, free, no spam, no ads). 
But I cant find out whos hosting it, unless it is QVD himself. So, how 
/where do I set about setting up such a list?

TIA

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