Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-22 Thread ZN
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:39:50 +0200, Palenicek Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nasta, Thanks for great info. Thanks, thinking more about it, I should still address my time critical routines into this slow-ULA memory rather than to expanded memory, because slow memory is equally slow on all

Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-21 Thread Marcel Kilgus
ZN wrote: The actual sharing is quite complex and effectively slows down the CPU access buy some 40% or so, unless there is shadowing involved, like with the GC and SGC. [...] Ah, look who's still alive :-) Thanks for the details, that was interesting for me, too. Marcel

Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-21 Thread Palenicek Jan
Hi Nasta, Thanks for great info. available memory bandwidth, and usually less. When all is said and done, you come out with about 50-60% bandwidth long term. Thanks, thinking more about it, I should still address my time critical routines into this slow-ULA memory rather than to expanded

Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-20 Thread ZN
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:35:43 +0200, Palenicek Jan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Marcel! I'm no hardware guy, but I'm pretty sure the ULA locks ALL internal memory during screen refresh, i.e. depending on model (EU/US) 50 or 60 times per second. The CPU cannot access anything at all during

Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-14 Thread Palenicek Jan
Thanks Marcel! I'm no hardware guy, but I'm pretty sure the ULA locks ALL internal memory during screen refresh, i.e. depending on model (EU/US) 50 or 60 times per second. The CPU cannot access anything at all during these times. OK, I will measure read/write time in the vram anyway. ULA should

[Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-13 Thread Palenicek Jan
Hi all, I am working on some timing critical routines for standard QL w/wo SandyQboard 512 (no GC, no Aurora). Do you know how is memory shared between CPU and ULA? Do you know how (if at all) is memory delayed when you need to access videoram at the same time ULA is accessing it? Is there any

Re: [Ql-Users] Memory contention (CPU / ULA)

2007-08-13 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Palenicek Jan wrote: I am working on some timing critical routines for standard QL w/wo SandyQboard 512 (no GC, no Aurora). Do you know how is memory shared between CPU and ULA? Do you know how (if at all) is memory delayed when you need to access videoram at the same time ULA is accessing