Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
On 24/03/14 22:33, Dave Park wrote: I read it and found it enjoyable. I like the conversational style. So far so good. A few other people have commented on that as well. Maybe I'll have to keep it up! I did feel a little left out because *every* article assumed some knowledge. Well, I suppose that is because for the last 17 years (!) I've been writing these articles and I started off very simple and have progressed since then. I have all my articles from the last 17 years collected together into a "book" which will, at some point soonish, be offered to my subscribers. At present there is around 390 pages of editorial and it's fully searchable and comes in at 1.5 Mb in size. I do need to try to get the ASCII art converted to proper diagrams - as per the first issue - and to make sure that all George's corrections have been included, web site links still work etc. However, once it has been done, those who have subscribed to the mailing list will get a chance to download it. Having said that, it sounds like I need a "Back to Basics" section - I'll have a think and see if I can come up with anything. Thanks. It might be a nice guide to have something beginner-level in every issue. A discussion of compilers, editors and tools might be nice. I know this has been done before, but this new listmag will become the de facto go to place for assembly information, it maybe needs to cover all bases? Flattery will get you anywhere! ;-) Thanks for the feedback Dave. Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
I read it and found it enjoyable. I like the conversational style. I did feel a little left out because *every* article assumed some knowledge. It might be a nice guide to have something beginner-level in every issue. A discussion of compilers, editors and tools might be nice. I know this has been done before, but this new listmag will become the de facto go to place for assembly information, it maybe needs to cover all bases? imho Dave On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > On 20/03/14 20:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: > > 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a >> resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( >> > And here are the results from the Scottish Jury: > > > Has anyone read it? >> > It appears that some people have, some have skimmed it and some are > planning to read it! ;-) > > Do you like it? >> > This one seems to be a yes! (Phew!) > > What don't you like? >> > So far, nothing. (Another phew!) > > Is the format reasonable? >> > Yes. Most people prefer the pdf though. > > What would you like to see changed? >> > Nothing, just do more! > > Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? >> > It would appear that it does. > > Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? >> > PDF seems to be the order of the day for most people who replied. > > Do you have any questions? >> > When will issue 2 be out! Sigh! ;-) > > Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) >> > So far, George has remained very quite. I can't believe I managed to get > through a whole issue without making a mistake. It's obvious that George is > busy! ;-) > > > So, the above is an amalgamation of replied here and ones I received > privately, so it seems that it's so far so good. > > I can assure everyone, and Derek, that I will continue to product the same > formats for each issue - pdf, html, ePub and Mobi. I've just about got my > production "system" down pat now. > > Thanks everyone who replied. > > > Cheers, > Norm. > > PS. In the words of Linux Torvalds, the next issue will be ready "when > it's ready". :-) > > > -- > Norman Dunbar > Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd > > Registered address: > 27a Lidget Hill > Pudsey > West Yorkshire > United Kingdom > LS28 7LG > > Company Number: 05132767 > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
On 20/03/14 20:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( And here are the results from the Scottish Jury: Has anyone read it? It appears that some people have, some have skimmed it and some are planning to read it! ;-) Do you like it? This one seems to be a yes! (Phew!) What don't you like? So far, nothing. (Another phew!) Is the format reasonable? Yes. Most people prefer the pdf though. What would you like to see changed? Nothing, just do more! Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? It would appear that it does. Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? PDF seems to be the order of the day for most people who replied. Do you have any questions? When will issue 2 be out! Sigh! ;-) Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) So far, George has remained very quite. I can't believe I managed to get through a whole issue without making a mistake. It's obvious that George is busy! ;-) So, the above is an amalgamation of replied here and ones I received privately, so it seems that it's so far so good. I can assure everyone, and Derek, that I will continue to product the same formats for each issue - pdf, html, ePub and Mobi. I've just about got my production "system" down pat now. Thanks everyone who replied. Cheers, Norm. PS. In the words of Linux Torvalds, the next issue will be ready "when it's ready". :-) -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
On 21 March 2014 11:52, Per Witte wrote: > Yo! Norman, > <> > <> I started with the Metacomco Assembler package. It was the best, most > professional solution at the time, but far too technical for a punter, not > in a technical or academic environment, trying to figure out things on his > ownsome. > <> Correction: I meant GST Macro Assemble (now Qmac, courtesy of QUANTA), not Metacomco. It was a loong time ago.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
I have had a quick glance, but struggling to find the time to read it at the moment - there is just SO much material to consider :) Rich > On March 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM Ian Burkinshaw > wrote: > > > Hi Norman > > Yes, I have read it. > Yes, I like it, more please. > Yes, the PDF version looks great, to me. > Nothing, to be changed as far as I am concerned. > I prefer PDF. > I am sure I will have questions, when I try to make it all work. But working > on another QL project which is exciting, hopefully more news soon. > Keep going George, keep Norman on his toes. > > Ian Burkinshaw > - Original Message - > From: "Norman Dunbar" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:12 PM > Subject: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News > > > > Evening all, > > > > the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: > > > > 1. Kindle version now available. > > > > Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular > > eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now > > have: > > > > MOBI (aka Kindle) - > > qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi > > > > * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle > > via the USB, or; > > > > * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email > > address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make > > sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if > > you have or use 3G to download the file. > > > > > > 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a > > resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( > > > > Has anyone read it? > > Do you like it? > > What don't you like? > > Is the format reasonable? > > What would you like to see changed? > > Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? > > Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? > > Do you have any questions? > > Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) > > Etc? > > > > Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! > > > > > > Cheers, > > Norm. > > > > -- > > Norman Dunbar > > Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd > > > > Registered address: > > 27a Lidget Hill > > Pudsey > > West Yorkshire > > United Kingdom > > LS28 7LG > > > > Company Number: 05132767 > > ___ > > QL-Users Mailing List > > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Rich Mellor RWAP Software www.rwapsoftware.co.uk www.sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
Hi Norman Yes, I have read it. Yes, I like it, more please. Yes, the PDF version looks great, to me. Nothing, to be changed as far as I am concerned. I prefer PDF. I am sure I will have questions, when I try to make it all work. But working on another QL project which is exciting, hopefully more news soon. Keep going George, keep Norman on his toes. Ian Burkinshaw - Original Message - From: "Norman Dunbar" To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:12 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News Evening all, the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: 1. Kindle version now available. Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now have: MOBI (aka Kindle) - qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle via the USB, or; * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if you have or use 3G to download the file. 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( Has anyone read it? Do you like it? What don't you like? Is the format reasonable? What would you like to see changed? Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? Do you have any questions? Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) Etc? Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
Yo! Norman, Apologies for lack of feedback. I guess I thought youd be inundated with acclaim and would therefore not notice ;o) But this is QL-land, of course. I should have remembered.. I dont actively program at the moment, just skim through the text and listings to remind myself what its all about. Your tutorial (so far) seems a solid piece of work, beautifully executed! I prefer the html version, but it is messy to archive due to all the little files, so after reading I keep only a copy of the pdf for future reference. I dont have readers for the other versions.. When I started programming in assembler, the first hurdle was getting my head round the logistics: How to get the code into the machine? It seems trivial now, and everyone who already knows takes it all for granted (an additional problem for those who dont). I started with the Metacomco Assembler package. It was the best, most professional solution at the time, but far too technical for a punter, not in a technical or academic environment, trying to figure out things on his ownsome. Then along came the Computer One assembler, a simple, integrated package, without a linker or library tools to complicate matters. Combined with their symbolic debugger (C1 Monitor) it was an eye-opener, and eased my way into the weird and wonderful world of 68k assembler and QDOS. The setup I use today is based on a conglomerate of the best available tools, revolving around Qmake. It is simple and fast, and very capable. However, it requires a relatively high-powered, modern system, with components from many different sources, some free, some bought. A short introduction or appendix on What You Need to Get Started might be useful to lower the threshold. A few possible setups could be described, with pointers to the necessary software. Just a thought. Im not suggesting you do the work, other than, perhaps, packaging it into the neat format of your tutorial. Perhaps people like Jochen, Dilwyn, George,.. could supply details of their setup? (You can have mine, for what its worth.) It may just nudge a few more people across that divide between theory and practice. Per On 20 March 2014 23:23, Martyn Hill wrote: > Dear Norman > > Being one of the more 'silent' list members, I none the less couldn't let > such a brilliant initiative and effort go without providing at least a > thank you! > > Yes, I read your 1st edition cover to cover and enjoyed it very much. > > The format works for me - I read in PDF. > > All I'd like to see is it continue! > > All the best and thanks again! > > Martyn Hill > > > > > On 20/03/2014 20:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: > >> Evening all, >> >> the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: >> >> 1. Kindle version now available. >> >> Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular >> eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now >> have: >> >> MOBI (aka Kindle) - qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/ >> Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi >> >> * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle >> via the USB, or; >> >> * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email >> address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make >> sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if >> you have or use 3G to download the file. >> >> >> 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a >> resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( >> >> Has anyone read it? >> Do you like it? >> What don't you like? >> Is the format reasonable? >> What would you like to see changed? >> Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? >> Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? >> Do you have any questions? >> Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) >> Etc? >> >> Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! >> >> >> Cheers, >> Norm. >> >> > -- > "There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary > and those who don't." > > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > > > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
Hi Norman, I read the PDF version on my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the mobi version on a Kindle, I much prefer the kindle version. But I think for flexibility all formats should be availabile, or even if there were only ePub, I would convert the file with Calibre to mobi format. But I thought it was very readable and am looking forward to future editions. Regards, Derek On 20/03/2014 20:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all, the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: 1. Kindle version now available. Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now have: MOBI (aka Kindle) - qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle via the USB, or; * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if you have or use 3G to download the file. 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( Has anyone read it? Do you like it? What don't you like? Is the format reasonable? What would you like to see changed? Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? Do you have any questions? Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) Etc? Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! Cheers, Norm. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
Dear Norman Being one of the more 'silent' list members, I none the less couldn't let such a brilliant initiative and effort go without providing at least a thank you! Yes, I read your 1st edition cover to cover and enjoyed it very much. The format works for me - I read in PDF. All I'd like to see is it continue! All the best and thanks again! Martyn Hill On 20/03/2014 20:12, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all, the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: 1. Kindle version now available. Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now have: MOBI (aka Kindle) - qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle via the USB, or; * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if you have or use 3G to download the file. 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( Has anyone read it? Do you like it? What don't you like? Is the format reasonable? What would you like to see changed? Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? Do you have any questions? Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) Etc? Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! Cheers, Norm. -- "There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those who don't." ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Assembly Language Mailing List News
Evening all, the latest news from the Assembly language mailing list is: 1. Kindle version now available. Issue 1 of the QL Today Memorial Assembly Language Mailing List irregular eMagazine is now available in a fourth flavour, added just today we now have: MOBI (aka Kindle) - qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk/downloads/AssemblyLanguage/Issue_001/Assembly_Language_001.mobi * You can download the Mobi version and then transfer it to your Kindle via the USB, or; * You can send the file directly to your Kindle using your Kindle's email address (You can find this under settings on your device) - however, make sure you are on WiFi otherwise Amazon will charge you for this service if you have or use 3G to download the file. 2. The amount of feedback I have had on Issue 1 so far has been a resoundingly huge amount of nothing! :-( Has anyone read it? Do you like it? What don't you like? Is the format reasonable? What would you like to see changed? Does it look ok on your eReader, if you use one? Do you prefer HTML, PDF, ePub or Mobi? Do you have any questions? Will George find something wrong? ;-) (I hope so!) Etc? Anyway, enjoy the added flavour! Cheers, Norm. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: 27a Lidget Hill Pudsey West Yorkshire United Kingdom LS28 7LG Company Number: 05132767 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
