Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Benchmarks
Hi Per, Stock speed of the EEE PC is 630 Mhz as Asus decide to downgrade bus speed to 70 Mhz instead it's nominal 100 MHz speed. This can be tweaking by overclocking as I've do it under Windows. But there is some problems doing this : - Battery life is incredible less (about half an hour) - Temperature of the EEC PC goes from 45°C to 55°C Your bench is interesting... Cheers, Jimmy. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de P Witte Envoyé : lundi 12 mai 2008 15:25 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Benchmarks I guess yall must be slavering after those benchmarks. Well, although theres no harm in slavering a bit, in the interests of public service, Ive just gone and sampled them. Here are the results of my endeavours: (If your email client messes up my nice table, just cut and paste the text into your favourite plain text editor) eee Comparative Benchmarks 20080512 1 2345 | eee | NB | PC | QXL | SGC/Au| # C68 Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 47| 24|10.6| - |- | DS/s| 21,115| 41,632| 93,985| 8,892| 5,000| VAXmips | 12,018| 23,695| 53,492| 5.1|- | # GCC Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 37| 19| 8.5||| DS/s| 26,724| 53,419| 118,204||| VAXmips | 12,018| 23,695| 53,492||| # Bogomips v1.4 bogomips| 28 | 58 | 165 | | 13.8| 1) eee PC, 4Gb Surf, nominally 900MHz, but possibly only 6-700MHz, running the standard Linux, latest Wine and QPC2 2) Notebook, 1.2GHz, 600MHz FSB, WXP 3) PC, 2 Core duo, 2.66GHz, Vista 4) QXL 20 MHz under W98 DISP_UPDATE 1,0 (D Santachiara, 28/08/1999) 5) SGC/Aurora/24MHz/4Mb/SMSQ/E2.90/Cache on (JG P Witte, March 1999) 9 years ago it seems we were happy to put up with a fraction of the speed of the eee PC! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Benchmarks
Jimmy writes: Hi Per, Stock speed of the EEE PC is 630 Mhz as Asus decide to downgrade bus speed to 70 Mhz instead it's nominal 100 MHz speed. This can be tweaking by overclocking as I've do it under Windows. But there is some problems doing this : - Battery life is incredible less (about half an hour) - Temperature of the EEC PC goes from 45°C to 55°C Aah, thats why.. :( Your bench is interesting... Thanks. Id be interested to hear about the modifications you made.. I will test QL2K too, but Ive run out of time for now. Just noticed an error in my figures: The VAXmips line in GCC Dhrystone was wrong: eee Comparative Benchmarks 20080512b 1 2345 | eee | NB | PC | QXL | SGC/Au| # C68 Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 47| 24|10.6| - |- | DS/s| 21,115| 41,632| 93,985| 8,892| 5,000| VAXmips | 12,018| 23,695| 53,492| 5.1|- | # GCC Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 37| 19| 8.5||| DS/s| 26,724| 53,419| 118,204||| VAXmips | 15,210| 30,403| 67,276||| # Bogomips v1.4 bogomips| 28 | 58 | 165 | | 13.8| 1) eee PC, 4Gb Surf, 630MHz, running the inbuilt Linux, latest Wine and QPC2 2) Notebook, 1.2GHz, 600MHz FSB, WXP 3) PC, 2 Core duo, 2.66GHz, Vista 4) QXL 20 MHz under W98 DISP_UPDATE 1,0 (D Santachiara, 28/08/1999) 5) SGC/Aurora/24MHz/4Mb/SMSQ/E2.90/Cache on (JG P Witte, March 1999) 9 years ago it seems we were happy to put up with a fraction of the speed of the eee PC! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Norman, Interesting all of this ... just shows that given a challenge there is still someone prepared to experiment with computer equipment ... :-) Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening all, What you should have is: * tiny fingers * sharp eyesight Not Vista then! :-) This little number seems to be a nurd's delight. Vista's bin dun: http://www.modaco.com/content/asus-eee-pc-http-www-eeeasy-com/261965/ins talling-vista-on-the-eee-ive-done-it-and-it-works/ Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Benchmarks
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Per, It seems like you are the geezer to do a good review of the eeePC and its capabilities for the QL magazines ... :-) I guess yall must be slavering after those benchmarks. Well, although theres no harm in slavering a bit, in the interests of public service, Ive just gone and sampled them. Here are the results of my endeavours: (If your email client messes up my nice table, just cut and paste the text into your favourite plain text editor) eee Comparative Benchmarks 20080512 1 2345 | eee | NB | PC | QXL | SGC/Au| # C68 Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 47| 24|10.6| - |- | DS/s | 21,115| 41,632| 93,985| 8,892| 5,000| VAXmips| 12,018| 23,695| 53,492| 5.1|- | # GCC Dhrystone v2.1 ms/DS | 37| 19| 8.5||| DS/s | 26,724| 53,419| 118,204||| VAXmips| 12,018| 23,695| 53,492||| # Bogomips v1.4 bogomips | 28 | 58 | 165 | | 13.8| 1) eee PC, 4Gb Surf, nominally 900MHz, but possibly only 6-700MHz, running the standard Linux, latest Wine and QPC2 2) Notebook, 1.2GHz, 600MHz FSB, WXP 3) PC, 2 Core duo, 2.66GHz, Vista 4) QXL 20 MHz under W98 DISP_UPDATE 1,0 (D Santachiara, 28/08/1999) 5) SGC/Aurora/24MHz/4Mb/SMSQ/E2.90/Cache on (JG P Witte, March 1999) 9 years ago it seems we were happy to put up with a fraction of the speed of the eee PC! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
Hi Fabrizio and anyone else whove tried the Asus EeePc. Is it any good? Can you happily run a QL emulator on it (particularly QPC2)? My notebook has to be retired a year or so early due to a cracked hinge and I need to find a temporary replacement. Per Fabrizio Diversi wrote: Ciao, maybe could be of interest that, as Per request, I tested Qpc on my new Asus EeePc . It works perfectly with an amazing speed index of 84 with Qpc under WinXp Not tested under linux (uqlx) or qpc under wine. This piece of hardware is really value added for what provide respect to the cost. Ciao Fabrizio - Messaggio originale - Da: George Gwilt [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: Venerdì 18 gennaio 2008, 6:44:40 Oggetto: Re: [Ql-Users] List problems On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:58, Per Witte wrote: Who the hell is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never sent anything to them. And where's the mail been these past 8 days? And how come they arrived on the list, but I didnt get a copy? Apart from changing my address and resubscribing a few days ago, Ive done no wrong. Uuugh! Just now 4 more mails were returned, some of them including a copies of mails sent - and seen - on the list in November 2007!! Is the list host spinning out or what? A baker's dozen of my old emails also have been returned. One was sent in October 2007. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
P Witte schrieb: Hi Fabrizio and anyone else whove tried the Asus EeePc. Is it any good? Can you happily run a QL emulator on it (particularly QPC2)? My notebook has to be retired a year or so early due to a cracked hinge and I need to find a temporary replacement. Per, I got one - Nice little beast. Mine is running uqlx and linux, at the moment, so I have no experience with QPC2 on it - uqlx runs fine, though. What you should have is: * tiny fingers * sharp eyesight as both keyboard and screeen are really, really small. uqlx at 800x480 gives on-screen characters 3-4 mm high - So you should be used to read the small print. If you are a 10-finger touch-typist, forget the eeePC - you won't fit them on the keyboard all together. It's fast enough for serious work and small enough to carry it everywhere. Got 3 free USB ports, so easy to expand. But you need to get used to the small scale. Tobias Per Fabrizio Diversi wrote: Ciao, maybe could be of interest that, as Per request, I tested Qpc on my new Asus EeePc . It works perfectly with an amazing speed index of 84 with Qpc under WinXp Not tested under linux (uqlx) or qpc under wine. This piece of hardware is really value added for what provide respect to the cost. Ciao Fabrizio - Messaggio originale - Da: George Gwilt [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: Venerdì 18 gennaio 2008, 6:44:40 Oggetto: Re: [Ql-Users] List problems On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:58, Per Witte wrote: Who the hell is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never sent anything to them. And where's the mail been these past 8 days? And how come they arrived on the list, but I didnt get a copy? Apart from changing my address and resubscribing a few days ago, Ive done no wrong. Uuugh! Just now 4 more mails were returned, some of them including a copies of mails sent - and seen - on the list in November 2007!! Is the list host spinning out or what? A baker's dozen of my old emails also have been returned. One was sent in October 2007. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
Evening all, What you should have is: * tiny fingers * sharp eyesight as both keyboard and screeen are really, really small. uqlx at 800x480 gives on-screen characters 3-4 mm high - So you should be used to read the small print. If you are a 10-finger touch-typist, forget the eeePC - you won't fit them on the keyboard all together. I'm pretty sure a new bigger model is coming 'soon' - which is apparently not 'soon' as in Sinclair speak - with more memory, more storage and a bigger screen. Because it comes with Linux installed it has been quite a popular subject in the Linux magazines, everyone loves it, says how great it is except for the small screen and keyboard. I note however from the Asus.com web site that Windows XP is now available as an optional OS. Not Vista then! :-) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
Norman Dunbar schrieb: Evening all, What you should have is: * tiny fingers * sharp eyesight as both keyboard and screeen are really, really small. uqlx at 800x480 gives on-screen characters 3-4 mm high - So you should be used to read the small print. If you are a 10-finger touch-typist, forget the eeePC - you won't fit them on the keyboard all together. I'm pretty sure a new bigger model is coming 'soon' - which is apparently not 'soon' as in Sinclair speak - with more memory, more storage and a bigger screen. For the sole purpose of running an emulated QL, I don't really see a big advantage in a larger screen: The resolution will be bigger - but the screen won't be - at least not much. This ends you up with even smaller physical pixels - And a QL font is still 6x9, that means the characters will be even harder to read (uqlx cannot scale the QL screen like you can do with QPC) Regarding memory, I have invested in a cheap 8GB SD card that gives me more than enough headroom and added a 2Gig RAM chip. I use the eeePC for internet connectivity and QLing while travelling. It's fine for that, because it even fits in light luggage and you can carry it everywhere. But I'm still happy with my home laptop with large screen and normal keyboard which is fine if you don't need to carry it. Cheers Tobias Because it comes with Linux installed it has been quite a popular subject in the Linux magazines, everyone loves it, says how great it is except for the small screen and keyboard. I note however from the Asus.com web site that Windows XP is now available as an optional OS. Not Vista then! :-) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc
Hi, I have an EEE PC, and I make run it run QL2K on a heavy modded EEE PC. This is sure that EEE PC is very little but as I choose a black model, something on it recall me the ZX81 ;-) We have made some modification on QL2K to be more suitable with its particular screen resolution 800x480 in GDI mode. DirectDraw mode already works perfectly. This will be available in the next release of QL2K (which is under validation). We will release sound emulation too which can play a SuperBasic command like BEEP 5,100 ;-) We have made important mods on the EEE PC 4G by : - Adding a touchscreen, - Adding a Bluetooth screen internally, - Adding 2 internal 32 GB USB keys, - Adding a very small USB HUB inside, - Installing MS Windows XP and ESET Antivirus. In this case we are very very far of its initial low price. But I've not done this only for QL2K but for my activity : as an ultra light PC is very usefull. (We're thinking to add a 3G+ key or something equivalent). So for activities like training, maintenance, commercial this may be a good solution if you are agree to break ASUS warranty... As we develop an pseudo-KVM I'm plan to use it as a remote controller of my Media Center. I just try QPC2 and it works very well both in windows or full screen mode. I was very surprise by its performance. It build on a celeron base but by tweaking it a little (putting it's FSB à 100 MHz instead of its original 70 MHz) it's reactivity it very acceptable and you can play at TrackMania Nations without any problem (still on Windows). I have used a little it's original OS called Xandros (derivate of Debian Distribution). It work correctly but I still need Windows for the moment. Now it's sure that releasing QL2K under Unix it's a too heavy work for me. Finally I don't recommand the EEE PC for a daily use as Norman say it. It is just fun to use it. Cheers, Jimmy. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Norman Dunbar Envoyé : mardi 8 avril 2008 21:46 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [Ql-Users] Asus EeePc Evening all, What you should have is: * tiny fingers * sharp eyesight as both keyboard and screeen are really, really small. uqlx at 800x480 gives on-screen characters 3-4 mm high - So you should be used to read the small print. If you are a 10-finger touch-typist, forget the eeePC - you won't fit them on the keyboard all together. I'm pretty sure a new bigger model is coming 'soon' - which is apparently not 'soon' as in Sinclair speak - with more memory, more storage and a bigger screen. Because it comes with Linux installed it has been quite a popular subject in the Linux magazines, everyone loves it, says how great it is except for the small screen and keyboard. I note however from the Asus.com web site that Windows XP is now available as an optional OS. Not Vista then! :-) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
