Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
On 4 Jul 2009, at 13:14, Rich Mellor wrote: What was the outcome of this - is it possible to compile SMSQ/e on QDOS - presumably you need a Gold Card or Super Gold Card to be able to handle the file sizes? You would have to have Super Gold Card since you need a 68020+ for GWASS. Apart from making several alterations to smsg3_bas Anton found a bug at the beginning. Instead of "black" the program contains "BLACK%" which is a keyword in TPTR_EXT. If TPTR_EXT is loaded BLACK% is a function returning 0. If TPTR_EXT is not loaded SMSQ/E treats BLACK% as a variable with value 0. QDOS does not allow undefined variables!! The variable "black" is defined as 0 in smsg3_bas. I know QMAC can be used to compile it So GWASS should be able to as well. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Anton Radchenko wrote: I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp), but i didn't found anything related to QMAC. If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely buy it! I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this? And how should I proceed to by it? I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment and do not advertise that they sell these programs. You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer Rich www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Actually, I would like a downloadable copy of QMAC, because I live in Russia, and it will take a year, if they send me the disk. It would be very thankfull if you help me to purchase it. I can pay via PayPal GBP 15 = ~ USD 25-26, it's ok. Just confirm, please: I can use QMAC to compile smsq/e on QDOS :) Thank you a lot!!! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm What was the outcome of this - is it possible to compile SMSQ/e on QDOS - presumably you need a Gold Card or Super Gold Card to be able to handle the file sizes? I know QMAC can be used to compile it -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
> > I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp), > > but i didn't found anything related to QMAC. > > If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will > > definitely buy it! > > I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native > > QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this? > > And how should I proceed to by it? > > > I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment > and do not advertise that they sell these programs. > > You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk > > Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - > suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK > > Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer > > Rich > www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Actually, I would like a downloadable copy of QMAC, because I live in Russia, and it will take a year, if they send me the disk. It would be very thankfull if you help me to purchase it. I can pay via PayPal GBP 15 = ~ USD 25-26, it's ok. Just confirm, please: I can use QMAC to compile smsq/e on QDOS :) Thank you a lot!!! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Anton Radchenko wrote: Hi Anton, QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal. I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and with printed manual. Cost ё20 Rich I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp), but i didn't found anything related to QMAC. If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely buy it! I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this? And how should I proceed to by it? I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment and do not advertise that they sell these programs. You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer Rich www.rwapsoftware.co.uk Anton Radchenko wrote: I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to compile the sources in GWASS. I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy it, and how much it cost Nothing. What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load all these '_link' files in GWASS. Please, help me. :( ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal. I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and with printed manual. Cost ё20 Rich I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp), but i didn't found anything related to QMAC. If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely buy it! I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this? And how should I proceed to by it? Contact Quanta treasurer John Gilpin, email address is: treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk Unfortunately, he is away for a few days this week. -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
> Hi Anton, > > QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which > come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) > although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost > is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal. > > I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and > with printed manual. > Cost ё20 > > Rich > I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp), but i didn't found anything related to QMAC. If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely buy it! I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this? And how should I proceed to by it? > Anton Radchenko wrote: > > I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the > > sources, read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to > > use dev device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information > > about how to compile the sources in GWASS. > > I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to > > get/purchase/download/buy it, and how much it cost Nothing. > > What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with > > it, but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by > > either make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand > > how to load all these '_link' files in GWASS. > > Please, help me. :( ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
I made a lot of changes in smsg3_bas to run it on QDOS, and I bypass memory test. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
On 16 Jun 2009, at 12:51, Francois Lanciault wrote: Well, for a start the program smsg3_bas check is you have at least 24 meg of ram... if I remember correctly. Difficult to achieve on a SGC. Too true. But that does not need SMSQ/E or does it? However, I remember thinking, when I produced the GWASS method, that anyone wanting to compile SMSQ/E should already have a version. Otherwise they would be able to compile it and use it for free! George Francois On 09-06-16, at 06:21, gdgqler wrote: GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see whether I can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and, if not why not. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Well, for a start the program smsg3_bas check is you have at least 24 meg of ram... if I remember correctly. Difficult to achieve on a SGC. Francois On 09-06-16, at 06:21, gdgqler wrote: GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see whether I can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and, if not why not. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
On 14 Jun 2009, at 22:08, Tobias Fröschle wrote: Anton, you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does not say much about the tools needed to compile. 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still available through Quanta, AFAIK. 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great. Regards Tobias Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot! But... George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe to compile smsqe! :((( I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in QDOS 1.97, but the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not implemented yet". :( Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary) version of smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to run this stuffs? Or something else... Please, help. Thanks in advance! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Anton, you did not tell you try to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS. I have never tried this and I very much doubt this will work at all, unfortunately. GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see whether I can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and, if not why not. You'd better try to find somebody near you who has access to a QPC or another SMSQ/E platform and have it compiled for you. (Or think about investing in a QPC license yourself - It's really worth the money) It certainly is worth the money. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2009, 14:03 +0400 schrieb Anton Radchenko: > > Anton, > > you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does > > not say much about the tools needed to compile. > > > > 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still > > available through Quanta, AFAIK. > > > > 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows > > SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO > > available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll > > down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great. > > > > Regards > > Tobias > Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot! > But... > George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe to compile > smsqe! :((( > I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in QDOS 1.97, > but the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not implemented yet". :( > Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime > Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary) version of > smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to run this stuffs? Or > something else... > Please, help. > Thanks in advance! > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Anton, you did not tell you try to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS. I have never tried this and I very much doubt this will work at all, unfortunately. You'd better try to find somebody near you who has access to a QPC or another SMSQ/E platform and have it compiled for you. (Or think about investing in a QPC license yourself - It's really worth the money) Regards Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
> Anton, > you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does > not say much about the tools needed to compile. > > 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still > available through Quanta, AFAIK. > > 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows > SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO > available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll > down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great. > > Regards > Tobias Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot! But... George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe to compile smsqe! :((( I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in QDOS 1.97, but the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not implemented yet". :( Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary) version of smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to run this stuffs? Or something else... Please, help. Thanks in advance! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Hi Anton, QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal. I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and with printed manual. Cost £20 Rich Anton Radchenko wrote: I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to compile the sources in GWASS. I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy it, and how much it cost Nothing. What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load all these '_link' files in GWASS. Please, help me. :( ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
Am Samstag, den 13.06.2009, 14:14 +0400 schrieb Anton Radchenko: > I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, > read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev > device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to > compile the sources in GWASS. > I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy > it, and how much it cost Nothing. > What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, > but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either > make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load > all these '_link' files in GWASS. > Please, help me. :( Anton, you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does not say much about the tools needed to compile. 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still available through Quanta, AFAIK. 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great. Regards Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS
I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to compile the sources in GWASS. I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy it, and how much it cost Nothing. What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load all these '_link' files in GWASS. Please, help me. :( ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
