Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-07-04 Thread gdgqler


On 4 Jul 2009, at 13:14, Rich Mellor wrote:

What was the outcome of this - is it possible to compile SMSQ/e on  
QDOS - presumably you need a Gold Card or Super Gold Card to be able  
to handle the file sizes?




You would have to have Super Gold Card since you need a 68020+ for  
GWASS.


Apart from making several alterations to smsg3_bas Anton found a bug  
at the beginning. Instead of "black" the program contains "BLACK%"  
which is a keyword in TPTR_EXT. If TPTR_EXT is loaded BLACK% is a  
function returning 0. If TPTR_EXT is not loaded SMSQ/E treats BLACK%  
as a variable with value 0. QDOS does not allow undefined variables!!  
The variable "black" is defined as 0 in smsg3_bas.



I know QMAC can be used to compile it


So GWASS should be able to as well.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-07-04 Thread Rich Mellor

Anton Radchenko wrote:

I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp),
but i didn't found anything related to QMAC.
If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely 
buy it!
I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS 
with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this?
And how should I proceed to by it?
  
  
I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment 
and do not advertise that they sell these programs.


You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk

Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - 
suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK


Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer

Rich
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Actually, I would like a downloadable copy of QMAC, because I live in Russia, 
and it will take a year, if they send me the disk.
It would be very thankfull if you help me to purchase it. I can pay via PayPal 
GBP 15 = ~ USD 25-26, it's ok.
Just confirm, please: I can use QMAC to compile smsq/e on QDOS :)
Thank you a lot!!!
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What was the outcome of this - is it possible to compile SMSQ/e on QDOS 
- presumably you need a Gold Card or Super Gold Card to be able to 
handle the file sizes?


I know QMAC can be used to compile it

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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-18 Thread Anton Radchenko
> > I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp),
> > but i didn't found anything related to QMAC.
> > If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will 
> > definitely buy it!
> > I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native 
> > QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this?
> > And how should I proceed to by it?
> >   
> I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment 
> and do not advertise that they sell these programs.
> 
> You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk
> 
> Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - 
> suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK
> 
> Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer
> 
> Rich
> www.rwapsoftware.co.uk

Actually, I would like a downloadable copy of QMAC, because I live in Russia, 
and it will take a year, if they send me the disk.
It would be very thankfull if you help me to purchase it. I can pay via PayPal 
GBP 15 = ~ USD 25-26, it's ok.
Just confirm, please: I can use QMAC to compile smsq/e on QDOS :)
Thank you a lot!!!
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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-17 Thread Rich Mellor

Anton Radchenko wrote:

Hi Anton,

QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which 
come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) 
although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost 
is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal.


I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and 
with printed manual.

Cost ё20

Rich



I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp),
but i didn't found anything related to QMAC.
If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely 
buy it!
I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS 
with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this?
And how should I proceed to by it?
  
I agree that Quanta do not make the most of their website at the moment 
and do not advertise that they sell these programs.


You can pay by PayPal to treasurer AT quanta DOT org DOT uk

Specify that you want QMAC on disk and ensure you include your address - 
suggest you add ?2 to cover postage within the UK


Otherwise you can order via me if you prefer

Rich
www.rwapsoftware.co.uk


  

Anton Radchenko wrote:


I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, 
read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev 
device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to 
compile the sources in GWASS.
I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy 
it, and how much it cost Nothing.
What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, 
but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either 
make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load 
all these '_link' files in GWASS.
Please, help me. :(
  


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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones

QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which
come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals)
although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost
is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal.

I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and
with printed manual.
Cost ё20

Rich


I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp),
but i didn't found anything related to QMAC.
If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will 
definitely buy it!
I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native 
QDOS with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this?

And how should I proceed to by it?
Contact Quanta treasurer John Gilpin, email address is: treasurer AT quanta 
DOT org DOT uk


Unfortunately, he is away for a few days this week.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-17 Thread Anton Radchenko
> Hi Anton,
> 
> QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which 
> come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) 
> although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost 
> is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal.
> 
> I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and 
> with printed manual.
> Cost ё20
> 
> Rich
> 
I found their web-site (http://www.quanta.org.uk/index.asp),
but i didn't found anything related to QMAC.
If it is really available at GBP 15, and I can pay by PayPal, I will definitely 
buy it!
I only need confirmation, that it is possible to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS 
with QMAC. Does somebody know something about this?
And how should I proceed to by it?


> Anton Radchenko wrote:
> > I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the 
> > sources, read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to 
> > use dev device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information 
> > about how to compile the sources in GWASS.
> > I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to 
> > get/purchase/download/buy it, and how much it cost Nothing.
> > What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with 
> > it, but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by 
> > either make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand 
> > how to load all these '_link' files in GWASS.
> > Please, help me. :(

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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-17 Thread Anton Radchenko
I made a lot of changes in smsg3_bas to run it on QDOS, and I bypass memory 
test.
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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-16 Thread gdgqler


On 16 Jun 2009, at 12:51, Francois Lanciault wrote:

Well, for a start the program smsg3_bas check is you have at least  
24 meg of ram... if I remember correctly. Difficult to achieve on a  
SGC.




Too true. But that does not need SMSQ/E or does it?

However, I remember thinking, when I produced the GWASS method,  that  
anyone wanting to compile SMSQ/E should already have a version.  
Otherwise they would be able to compile it and use it for free!


George


Francois

On 09-06-16, at 06:21, gdgqler wrote:

GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see  
whether I can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and,  
if not why not.




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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-16 Thread Francois Lanciault
Well, for a start the program smsg3_bas check is you have at least 24  
meg of ram... if I remember correctly. Difficult to achieve on a SGC.


Francois

On 09-06-16, at 06:21, gdgqler wrote:

GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see whether  
I can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and, if not  
why not.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-16 Thread gdgqler


On 14 Jun 2009, at 22:08, Tobias Fröschle wrote:


Anton,
you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage  
does

not say much about the tools needed to compile.

1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still
available through Quanta, AFAIK.

2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that  
allows

SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO
available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm  
(Scroll

down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great.

Regards
Tobias

Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot!
But...
George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe  
to compile smsqe! :(((
I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in  
QDOS 1.97, but the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not  
implemented yet". :(

Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime
Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary)  
version of smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to  
run this stuffs? Or something else...

Please, help.
Thanks in advance!
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Anton,
you did not tell you try to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS.
I have never tried this and I very much doubt this will work at all,
unfortunately.


GWASS requires a 68020+ but does not need SMSQ/E. I must see whether I  
can compile SMSQ/E with a JS rom and Super Gold Card and, if not why  
not.




You'd better try to find somebody near you who has access to a QPC or
another SMSQ/E platform and have it compiled for you.
(Or think about investing in a QPC license yourself - It's really  
worth

the money)


It certainly is worth the money.

George
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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-14 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am Sonntag, den 14.06.2009, 14:03 +0400 schrieb Anton Radchenko:
> > Anton,
> > you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does
> > not say much about the tools needed to compile.
> > 
> > 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still
> > available through Quanta, AFAIK.
> > 
> > 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows
> > SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO
> > available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll
> > down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Tobias
> Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot!
> But...
> George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe to compile 
> smsqe! :(((
> I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in QDOS 1.97, 
> but the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not implemented yet". :(
> Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime
> Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary) version of 
> smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to run this stuffs? Or 
> something else...
> Please, help.
> Thanks in advance!
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Anton,
you did not tell you try to compile SMSQ/E on native QDOS.
I have never tried this and I very much doubt this will work at all,
unfortunately.
You'd better try to find somebody near you who has access to a QPC or
another SMSQ/E platform and have it compiled for you.
(Or think about investing in a QPC license yourself - It's really worth
the money)

Regards
Tobias

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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-14 Thread Anton Radchenko
> Anton,
> you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does
> not say much about the tools needed to compile.
> 
> 1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still
> available through Quanta, AFAIK.
> 
> 2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows
> SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO
> available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll
> down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great.
> 
> Regards
> Tobias
Well, that's actually what i've tried to find, thaks a lot!
But...
George's tools would be very usefull if they do not require smsqe to compile 
smsqe! :(((
I made a lot of changes in that HUGE smsg3_bas to make it run in QDOS 1.97, but 
the main prog (sgmake) refuse to run saying "not implemented yet". :(
Either does something called "_z1", which is created at runtime
Is there something I can do with it??? Maybe download old (binary) version of 
smsq somewhere??? Or extentions to QDos which allows to run this stuffs? Or 
something else...
Please, help.
Thanks in advance!
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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-14 Thread Rich Mellor

Hi Anton,

QUANTA still holds the distribution rights on QMAC and QLINKER (which 
come together on one floppy disk together with electronic manuals) 
although we still have to pay royalties to the software house. The cost 
is GBP 15.00 per copy and you can pay by PayPal.


I also have an original QL Macro Assembler on microdrive - cased and 
with printed manual.

Cost £20

Rich

Anton Radchenko wrote:

I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, 
read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev 
device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to 
compile the sources in GWASS.
I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy 
it, and how much it cost Nothing.
What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, 
but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either 
make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load 
all these '_link' files in GWASS.
Please, help me. :(

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Re: [Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-13 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am Samstag, den 13.06.2009, 14:14 +0400 schrieb Anton Radchenko:
> I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, 
> read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev 
> device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to 
> compile the sources in GWASS.
> I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy 
> it, and how much it cost Nothing.
> What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, 
> but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either 
> make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load 
> all these '_link' files in GWASS.
> Please, help me. :(

Anton,
you didn't search hard enough ;-) Admittedly, the SMSQ/E homepage does
not say much about the tools needed to compile.

1. QMAC, if you decide to use that for SMSQ/E compilation, is still
available through Quanta, AFAIK.

2. George Gwilt has written a very comfortable set of tools that allows
SMSQ/E compilation using GWASS. There is also a comprehensive HOWTO
available on http://www.jms1.supanet.com/SQLUG/gwilt/gwilt.htm (Scroll
down a bit). Been there, done that - Works great.

Regards
Tobias

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[Ql-Users] Compiling SMSQ/E with GWASS

2009-06-13 Thread Anton Radchenko
I would like to compile the last version of SMSQ/E. I downloaded the sources, 
read all the manuals and HowTo's, installed dev_rext to be able to use dev 
device in QDos... And now I need either QMAC or some information about how to 
compile the sources in GWASS.
I could not find anything about QMAC: where/how to get/purchase/download/buy 
it, and how much it cost Nothing.
What about GWASS, I just found that it is possible to compile SMSQ/e with it, 
but how??? The 'make' programm suplied with the sources is used by either 
make_bas and smsqmake, and requires QMAC. And I didn't understand how to load 
all these '_link' files in GWASS.
Please, help me. :(

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