Re: [Ql-Users] DISK MATE 5

[simon629--- via Ql-Users]

OK Thank you Derek  my email is simon...@sky.com OK Thank's Again Derek Simon 
Foster





On Tuesday, February 26, 2019, 2:46 pm, Derek via Ql-Users 
 wrote:

Hi,

I have extracted most of tge Menu definitions screens and was going to rewrite 
DM5 based on the usage of the compiled version.

I seem to have a little lull in hardware work. So I will revisit this personal 
project.

On 26 February 2019 12:08:19 GMT+00:00, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
>Op Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:29:17 +0100 schreef simon629--- via Ql-Users  
>:
>
>> Hi There This morning I installed Disk Mate 5 on MY Version of  
>> LaunchPad2 it Runs OK But When you Launch it it comes up with a Red
>Box  
>> with RAC when I Press C key on my Keyboard  Runs Like A dream  can
>any  
>> on help me Fix That Tiny Error
>>
>There are two known problems with DM5.
>When started it complains about the date.
>Use ESC to ignore it. Don't try to fix the date, it will produce an
>error.
>
>It also uses some FileInfo2 keywords: FEX, FEX_W, FEXF, FEX_W(),
>FEXF(),  
>FEX$.
>These conflict with SMSQ/E and are possibly switched off in your FI2
>and  
>while the replacements FI2_CALL can be used.
>So if DM5 tries to use FEX it cannot be found.
>
>My way around this was to patch the keywords to FFX in both DM5 and FI2
> 
>and switch them on again. Hopefully no other tool uses the old keywords
> 
>and no tool uses this new keyword.
>Sadly the FI2 database is part of the same _bin so this patch needs to
>be  
>done to the current _bin or the whole extensions database needs to be
>done  
>again.
>
>Bob
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Re: [Ql-Users] DISK MATE 5

[Derek via Ql-Users]

Hi,

I have extracted most of tge Menu definitions screens and was going to rewrite 
DM5 based on the usage of the compiled version.

I seem to have a little lull in hardware work. So I will revisit this personal 
project.

On 26 February 2019 12:08:19 GMT+00:00, Bob Spelten via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
>Op Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:29:17 +0100 schreef simon629--- via Ql-Users  
>:
>
>> Hi There This morning I installed Disk Mate 5 on MY Version of  
>> LaunchPad2 it Runs OK But When you Launch it it comes up with a Red
>Box  
>> with RAC when I Press C key on my Keyboard   Runs Like A dream  can
>any  
>> on help me Fix That Tiny Error
>>
>There are two known problems with DM5.
>When started it complains about the date.
>Use ESC to ignore it. Don't try to fix the date, it will produce an
>error.
>
>It also uses some FileInfo2 keywords: FEX, FEX_W, FEXF, FEX_W(),
>FEXF(),  
>FEX$.
>These conflict with SMSQ/E and are possibly switched off in your FI2
>and  
>while the replacements FI2_CALL can be used.
>So if DM5 tries to use FEX it cannot be found.
>
>My way around this was to patch the keywords to FFX in both DM5 and FI2
> 
>and switch them on again. Hopefully no other tool uses the old keywords
> 
>and no tool uses this new keyword.
>Sadly the FI2 database is part of the same _bin so this patch needs to
>be  
>done to the current _bin or the whole extensions database needs to be
>done  
>again.
>
>Bob
>
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Re: [Ql-Users] DISK MATE 5

[Bob Spelten via Ql-Users]

Op Tue, 26 Feb 2019 12:29:17 +0100 schreef simon629--- via Ql-Users  
:


Hi There This morning I installed Disk Mate 5 on MY Version of  
LaunchPad2 it Runs OK But When you Launch it it comes up with a Red Box  
with RAC when I Press C key on my Keyboard   Runs Like A dream  can any  
on help me Fix That Tiny Error



There are two known problems with DM5.
When started it complains about the date.
Use ESC to ignore it. Don't try to fix the date, it will produce an error.

It also uses some FileInfo2 keywords: FEX, FEX_W, FEXF, FEX_W(), FEXF(),  
FEX$.
These conflict with SMSQ/E and are possibly switched off in your FI2 and  
while the replacements FI2_CALL can be used.

So if DM5 tries to use FEX it cannot be found.

My way around this was to patch the keywords to FFX in both DM5 and FI2  
and switch them on again. Hopefully no other tool uses the old keywords  
and no tool uses this new keyword.
Sadly the FI2 database is part of the same _bin so this patch needs to be  
done to the current _bin or the whole extensions database needs to be done  
again.


Bob

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[Ql-Users] DISK MATE 5

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Hi There This morning I installed Disk Mate 5 on MY Version of LaunchPad2 it 
Runs OK But When you Launch it it comes up with a Red Box with RAC when I Press 
C key on my Keyboard   Runs Like A dream  can any on help me Fix That Tiny Error
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Re: [Ql-Users] Disk Mate 5

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OK Thanks for the info
 

On Thursday, 1 February 2018, 10:59, Marcel Kilgus via Ql-Users 
 wrote:
 

 simon629--- via Ql-Users wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> Is there and more news when Disk Mate 5 is being updated
> OK Thankssimon629Simon Foster

Disk Mate will never be updated, there are no sources for it anymore.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] Disk Mate 5

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simon629--- via Ql-Users wrote:
> Hi Everyone
> Is there and more news when Disk Mate 5 is being updated
> OK Thankssimon629Simon Foster

Disk Mate will never be updated, there are no sources for it anymore.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Disk Mate 5

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Hi Everyone
Is there and more news when Disk Mate 5 is being updated
OK Thankssimon629Simon Foster
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[ql-users] Disk Mate 5 - User Guide available

[Pål Monstad]

I have put the User Guide in a text file. Please visit: www.pm-data.no/dm5 to 
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5 - User Guide available

[Roy wood]

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pål Monstad 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I have put the User Guide in a text file. Please visit: 
www.pm-data.no/dm5 to download.
Thanks I will put a package together for PD release.
Have we tempted you to come back and do some programming for us again 
now? We could do with some more programmers.
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5 - User Guide available

[Pål Monstad]

Roy wood wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pål Monstad
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 I have put the User Guide in a text file. Please visit:
 www.pm-data.no/dm5 to download.
 Thanks I will put a package together for PD release.
 
 Have we tempted you to come back and do some programming for us again
 now? We could do with some more programmers.

Hm, I haven't done any QL programming since 1997 when I wrote a Jeopary game 
to use in my class. I worked as a teacher for 6 years, and the game Jeopardy 
was a big hit on TV. My students loved it. I wrote a program to control input 
from two joysticks and keep records of who pressed the button first. I asked a 
question and the fastest one could answer. The program counted points and so 
on. I had an Atari computer with the QL emulator in my classroom.

I'm not sure my wife agree I spend more time on computers than I already do :-)
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Roy wood]

Pal,
 if you are still reading this list, do you have a text copy of DM5 
manual to save me having to scan it all in for the PD release ?
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Pål Monstad]

 Pal,
   if you are still reading this list, do you have a text copy of DM5
 manual to save me having to scan it all in for the PD release ?
 --

I'll check if I have the original Calamus document. The manual was made
with Calamus, an Atari DTP program. I think I still have a backup of my
Atari stuff. I'll let you know.
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Rich Mellor]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:10:17 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source  
code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended  
colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public  
Domain.

I left the QL back in 1994 I think. It's a shame I have no backups of  
the old stuff, because I still have an Atari TT with the SMSQE-card,  
but no software. The TT was given away in 95 I think, but I was offered  
it back last year. I have not even turned in on yet.

--
Pl Monstad
I have tried Marcel's version on my QPC2 and it works fine here except for  
an error when I try to do a directory on my WIN1_ with the full tree when  
I get a string not numeric.  Hmmm shame the sources are not available.

My guess Marcel is that you have another toolkit loaded which redefines  
SORT.

Maybe you should try loading the extensions_cde AFTER you have loaded all  
your boot files.
The various keywords used by the program are quite clear towards the end,  
so that might help you spot a conflict on your system.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Rich Mellor wrote:
 My guess Marcel is that you have another toolkit loaded which
 redefines SORT.

Of course I did try it with a clean system, too.

 Maybe you should try loading the extensions_cde AFTER you have
 loaded all your boot files.

I even did it with no boot file at all.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Rich Mellor]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:42:54 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
My guess Marcel is that you have another toolkit loaded which
redefines SORT.
Of course I did try it with a clean system, too.
Maybe you should try loading the extensions_cde AFTER you have
loaded all your boot files.
I even did it with no boot file at all.
How weird - hope you remembered to use the latest menu_rext :-)
Wonder if it might be a change to the latest QPC2 - if you want to send me  
the latest QPC2 beta, I will have a look on my system :-)

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Pål Monstad wrote:
 Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source
 code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended
 colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public Domain.

In case you're curious, the result looks like this (with my personal
theme colours, look on other systems will differ as colours and even
the sprites at the top are not hard wired anymore):
http://www.kilgus.net/images/dm5.png

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[James Hunkins]

That was almost too easy.  Something tells me you may be getting more 
requests :)

Cheers,
jim
On Jan 24, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
Pål Monstad wrote:
Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source
code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with 
extended
colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public 
Domain.
In case you're curious, the result looks like this (with my personal
theme colours, look on other systems will differ as colours and even
the sprites at the top are not hard wired anymore):
http://www.kilgus.net/images/dm5.png
Marcel
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Pål Monstad]

Marcel Kilgus skrev:
Pål Monstad wrote:
Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source
code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended
colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public Domain.

In case you're curious, the result looks like this (with my personal
theme colours, look on other systems will differ as colours and even
the sprites at the top are not hard wired anymore):
http://www.kilgus.net/images/dm5.png
I must say I'm impressed! I have not seen DM5 for 8-10 years now, and it 
looks much better than I can remember. I don't think I have a working 
version around. Is it possible to mail me DM5? I'd like to try it in the 
QPC demo.
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Pål Monstad wrote:
 I must say I'm impressed!

Thanks. Fortunately you did use EasyMenu, which made things fairly
easy.

 I have not seen DM5 for 8-10 years now, and it looks much better
 than I can remember. I don't think I have a working version around.
 Is it possible to mail me DM5? I'd like to try it in the QPC demo.

I'll send you a version of my WMAN demo disc (that I've been working
on for years but never find the time to finish) with it included, so
it's ready to run. It comes with 2 different colour schemes, too.

BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

James Hunkins wrote:
 That was almost too easy.

I did design that stuff, of course it is easy :-)

 Something tells me you may be getting more requests :)

Actually I'm starting to learn how to just ignore people ;-) At the
rate it is currently going I will be able to celebrate my 1th sent
email (of those that are still in my archive, all the BBS years not
included) within the next few months. Unbelievable.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[James Hunkins]

At the
rate it is currently going I will be able to celebrate my 1th sent
email (of those that are still in my archive, all the BBS years not
included) within the next few months. Unbelievable.
Where I come from, we would call you an email wimp - only 1?
:)
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Rich Mellor]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:33:04 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pl Monstad wrote:
I must say I'm impressed!
Thanks. Fortunately you did use EasyMenu, which made things fairly
easy.
I have not seen DM5 for 8-10 years now, and it looks much better
than I can remember. I don't think I have a working version around.
Is it possible to mail me DM5? I'd like to try it in the QPC demo.
I'll send you a version of my WMAN demo disc (that I've been working
on for years but never find the time to finish) with it included, so
it's ready to run. It comes with 2 different colour schemes, too.
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
Wonder if that is more to do with the version of the runtimes being  
used Would be helpful to know which error is reported...

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

James Hunkins wrote:
 At the rate it is currently going I will be able to celebrate my
 1th sent email (of those that are still in my archive, all the
 BBS years not included) within the next few months. Unbelievable.
 Where I come from, we would call you an email wimp - only 1?

Well, you know, unlike yours those are not just forwarded joke mails.
:- And of course it would be much faster to just answer sucks to be
you to people with problems instead of spending hours to help them.
When I think back to all those mails from a certain James H. for
example... ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Rich Mellor wrote:
 BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
 it can be ignored.
 Wonder if that is more to do with the version of the runtimes being
 used Would be helpful to know which error is reported...

Q_ERR_ON
illegal parameter

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Rich Mellor]

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:54:49 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
Wonder if that is more to do with the version of the runtimes being
used Would be helpful to know which error is reported...
Q_ERR_ON
illegal parameter
Now that is a nasty one - unless, it relates to a keyword which is  
missing.  After all, Q_ERR_ON only expects one type of parameter - a list  
(?) of procedures and functions which should be monitored for error  
returns.  Now, all the keywords for QLib appear towards the end IIRC, so  
might be worth casting an eye over the list - if you want to email me a  
copy of DM5 (send it to the AOL address) I will have a look and see if I  
can spot it.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Roy wood]

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Pål Monstad wrote:
I must say I'm impressed!
Thanks. Fortunately you did use EasyMenu, which made things fairly
easy.
I have not seen DM5 for 8-10 years now, and it looks much better
than I can remember. I don't think I have a working version around.
Is it possible to mail me DM5? I'd like to try it in the QPC demo.
I'll send you a version of my WMAN demo disc (that I've been working
on for years but never find the time to finish) with it included, so
it's ready to run. It comes with 2 different colour schemes, too.
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
You do need to load the extensions. They are included in the files I 
sent to you.
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Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Roy wood wrote:
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
 You do need to load the extensions. They are included in the files I
 sent to you.

Of course without the extension it won't start at all...

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Roy wood]

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Roy wood wrote:
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
You do need to load the extensions. They are included in the files I
sent to you.
Of course without the extension it won't start at all...
That is odd it runs here perfectly.
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Rich Mellor wrote:
 Now, all the keywords for QLib appear towards the end IIRC, so might
 be worth casting an eye over the list - if you want to email me a
 copy of DM5 (send it to the AOL address) I will have a look and see
 if I can spot it.

I will send off what I have to both you and Dilwyn, thus ending my
short involvement with DiskMate. But if you do find a solution please
let me know, just out of curiosity.

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[ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Pål Monstad]

Dear friends,
I found this mail list and I guess there are still some QL users out 
there. I wrote the program Disk Mate many years ago. Are there still 
anyone using Disk Mate?

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:04:15 +0100, Pål Monstad wrote
 Dear friends,
 
 I found this mail list and I guess there are still some QL users out 
 there. I wrote the program Disk Mate many years ago. Are there still 
 anyone using Disk Mate?
 
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Hello Pal,
Of course there are some QL users in here. From time to time it is even too
active because off topic, but ok...
Arnould


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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Rich Mellor]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:04:15 +0100, Pl Monstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Dear friends,
I found this mail list and I guess there are still some QL users out  
there. I wrote the program Disk Mate many years ago. Are there still  
anyone using Disk Mate?

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It is indeed very nice to hear from any of the QL software writers who  
have been out of the scene for a while.

There have been quite a lot of developments to the original QL over the  
years, so you might have a lot of background reading to catch up if you  
are interested.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

On 23 Jan 2005 at 19:04, Pål Monstad wrote:

 I found this mail list and I guess there are still some QL users out
 there. I wrote the program Disk Mate many years ago. Are there still
 anyone using Disk Mate?

I actually bought it from you at a meeting (don't remember which) but don't
use it any more.

Wolfgang

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Roy wood]

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pål Monstad 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source 
code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended 
colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public 
Domain.
Shame about that. I think it is a very useful program
I left the QL back in 1994 I think. It's a shame I have no backups of 
the old stuff, because I still have an Atari TT with the SMSQE-card, 
but no software. The TT was given away in 95 I think, but I was offered 
it back last year. I have not even turned in on yet.
You can of course now run QL stuff on a PC with QPC2 and that has SMSQ/E 
which has improved immensely since '94 You can get the demo from 
Marcel's website

www.kilgus.net
Regards
Roy
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Roy Wood
Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501
web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

[Marcel Kilgus]

Pål Monstad wrote:
 Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source
 code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended
 colours.

Actually it's not that much of a problem as you use the standard QPAC2
window scheme. For that I have developed tools that can do most of the
conversion automatically on existing binaries. After that only a few
manual fixups needed to also make use of the new sprites. If anybody
can send me the latest release I see what I can do.

Marcel

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