Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts
Thanks Dave, I would not say violent agreement, just a discussion thats all! The wiki describes original designs going back to 1954, so there maybe a 'Syntax' version that is close or identical. From the links it appears there are many variations of the 'Syntax' family and derivatives. The 'Syntax' font download from the link you supplied "font palace" is indeed similar, however the Q tail is tapered towards the circle and not the same as the original box design. I have now three different versions of "Syntax" (no added classes) and one called Syntax Two (which is closer than Syntax) however none of these are exactly the same as the original design that I can see although I stand to be corrected. I still say the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO seems to me the closest. If Ralf can let us know where his version is from I would like to see for myself. Regards, Lee Privett -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Dave Park Sent: 03 March 2013 15:45 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_(typeface) And this: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Syntax/ Fun times! Dave On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Dave Park wrote: > I believe you guys are in violent agreement. > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt wrote: > >> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. >> I have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" >> >> >> >> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font >> is SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you >> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in >> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL >> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close >> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you >> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in >> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained >> from a forum where I put the original request , see here >> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/** >> Identifying_a_<http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Tal >> k/Identifying_a_> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will >> also see, if you look carefully, that the width of the circle part of >> the Q is not constant around the circumference although quite >> circular and although the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is >> still not exactly the same and slightly oval. If anyone does come >> across the original font used for the box on the Sinclair QL >> packaging I would be grateful. I now realise I am starting to sound >> like a 'font nerd' (if there is such a thing), so apologies for that >> :) >> >> Regards, >> Lee Privett >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: >> ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com >> [mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com> -d.com>] >> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt >> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37 >> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com >> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts >> >> Hi Dilwyn, >> >> a little correction for your site: >> >> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not >> >> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and >> documentation" >> >> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The >> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to >> make it a free font. >> >> Cheers...Ralf >> >> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk >> /smsqe.htm> >> >> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk >> /smsqe.htm> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk >> /smsqe.htm> >> > > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts
I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntax_(typeface) And this: http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Syntax/ Fun times! Dave On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Dave Park wrote: > I believe you guys are in violent agreement. > > > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt wrote: > >> As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I >> have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" >> >> >> >> Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is >> SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you >> mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in >> years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL >> initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close >> facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you >> mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in >> to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained >> from a forum where I put the original request , see here >> http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/** >> Identifying_a_<http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_> >> Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you >> look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not >> constant around the circumference although quite circular and although >> the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the >> same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font >> used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I >> now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is >> such a thing), so apologies for that :) >> >> Regards, >> Lee Privett >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com >> [mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com] >> On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt >> Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37 >> To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com >> Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts >> >> Hi Dilwyn, >> >> a little correction for your site: >> >> The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not >> >> "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and >> documentation" >> >> In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The >> Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make >> it a free font. >> >> Cheers...Ralf >> >> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> >> >> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> >> __**_ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> >> > > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts
I believe you guys are in violent agreement. On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Ralf Reköndt wrote: > As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I > have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair. > > - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" > > > > Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is > SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you > mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in > years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL > initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close > facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you > mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in > to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained > from a forum where I put the original request , see here > http://www.fonts101.com/c/**forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/**Identifying_a_<http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_> > Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you > look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not > constant around the circumference although quite circular and although > the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the > same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font > used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I > now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is > such a thing), so apologies for that :) > > Regards, > Lee Privett > > > -Original Message- > From: ql-users-bounces@lists.q-v-d.**com > [mailto:ql-users-bounces@**lists.q-v-d.com] > On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt > Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37 > To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com > Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts > > Hi Dilwyn, > > a little correction for your site: > > The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not > > "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and > documentation" > > In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The > Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make > it a free font. > > Cheers...Ralf > > __**_ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> > > __**_ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> > __**_ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/**smsqe.htm<http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm> > ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts
As Syntax Next Medium Pro was designed in 2000, it can't be the font. I have an original Syntax font, be sure it *is* the font used by Sinclair. - Original Message - From: "Lee Privett" Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in to the circle, the original Q doesn't. For a visual example obtained from a forum where I put the original request , see here http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_ Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not constant around the circumference although quite circular and although the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is such a thing), so apologies for that :) Regards, Lee Privett -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts Hi Dilwyn, a little correction for your site: The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and documentation" In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make it a free font. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Fonts
Actually Ralf, it is not the font 'Syntax', the actual closest font is SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO, a professional font (by Linotype as you mentioned) designed by H E Meier in 2000 which puts it way beyond in years, the original one used by Sinclair in 1983/84 for box the QL initially came in. The font used by Dilwyn's site is a damn close facsimile and good for most basic uses. The 'Syntax' font you mentioned does not have the correct Q as it contains a tail going in to the circle, the original Q doesnt. For a visual example obtained from a forum where I put the original request , see here http://www.fonts101.com/c/forum/topic/11130/Font_o_Talk/Identifying_a_ Font_Request_closed. For real picky people you will also see, if you look carefully, that the width of the circle part of the Q is not constant around the circumference although quite circular and although the SYNTAX® NEXT MEDIUM PRO is very close it is still not exactly the same and slightly oval. If anyone does come across the original font used for the box on the Sinclair QL packaging I would be grateful. I now realise I am starting to sound like a 'font nerd' (if there is such a thing), so apologies for that :) Regards, Lee Privett -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Ralf Reköndt Sent: 03 March 2013 10:37 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: [Ql-Users] Fonts Hi Dilwyn, a little correction for your site: The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and documentation" In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make it a free font. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] Fonts
Hi Dilwyn, a little correction for your site: The font used by Sinclair for their adverts was not "Saxony-Serial-Regular is a font which was used in QL advertising and documentation" In fact, the font used was "Syntax", a Linotype font. The Saxony-Serial-Regular seems to be a derivat with minor changes to make it a free font. Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fonts for Professional Publisher
--- Malcolm Cadman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Malcolm Cadman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:50:01 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Fonts for Professional Publisher In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabrizio Diversi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Ralf, >I am not able in any way to make Professional >Publisher working under Qpc 3.32.at least the >version I have. >What is the latest PP version released ? > >I have another question for the list : with the latest >version of Perfection (6a12) the spell-checker does >not work (spell-checker not active), while with the >old version i have it works perfectly, am I the only >one with this problem ? > >Ciao > >Fabrizio Try emailing David Gilham at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] He may be able to help you. >--- Ralf Reköndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha >scritto: > >> Hi all, >> >> wanting authentical disk labels, I have designed two >> fonts in Professions >> Publisher's HiRes font designer a *lot* of years ago >> (in fact: very long >> time ago...): >> >> QL_hires >> Sinclair_hires >> >> The first is the font, which Sinclair has used for >> the QL branded software >> packages, the latter is the sinclair label itself >> with just the needed >> letters ;-). Both fonts can be used with >> Professional Publisher or Page >> Designer 3. Dilwyn Jones is so kind to put them on >> his site. >> >> Cheers...Ralf R. >> >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm >> -- >> Malcolm Cadman >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm I will look into the problem but as I have nver used the spell checker with perfection It will be a learning experience. It sounds like the comunication interface between Perfection and the spell checker is the root cause of the problem. For what its worth I do not have the source to the perfection spellchecker. Have others on different setups had similar problems> I myself have A q60 running SMSQE v3.11 and an Aurora system running SMSQE to test with. -- David Gilham ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fonts for Professional Publisher
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fabrizio Diversi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Ralf, >I am not able in any way to make Professional >Publisher working under Qpc 3.32.at least the >version I have. >What is the latest PP version released ? > >I have another question for the list : with the latest >version of Perfection (6a12) the spell-checker does >not work (spell-checker not active), while with the >old version i have it works perfectly, am I the only >one with this problem ? > >Ciao > >Fabrizio Try emailing David Gilham at : [EMAIL PROTECTED] He may be able to help you. >--- Ralf Reköndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha >scritto: > >> Hi all, >> >> wanting authentical disk labels, I have designed two >> fonts in Professions >> Publisher's HiRes font designer a *lot* of years ago >> (in fact: very long >> time ago...): >> >> QL_hires >> Sinclair_hires >> >> The first is the font, which Sinclair has used for >> the QL branded software >> packages, the latter is the sinclair label itself >> with just the needed >> letters ;-). Both fonts can be used with >> Professional Publisher or Page >> Designer 3. Dilwyn Jones is so kind to put them on >> his site. >> >> Cheers...Ralf R. >> >> ___ >> QL-Users Mailing List >> http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fonts for Professional Publisher
Ralf, I am not able in any way to make Professional Publisher working under Qpc 3.32.at least the version I have. What is the latest PP version released ? I have another question for the list : with the latest version of Perfection (6a12) the spell-checker does not work (spell-checker not active), while with the old version i have it works perfectly, am I the only one with this problem ? Ciao Fabrizio --- Ralf Reköndt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > Hi all, > > wanting authentical disk labels, I have designed two > fonts in Professions > Publisher's HiRes font designer a *lot* of years ago > (in fact: very long > time ago...): > > QL_hires > Sinclair_hires > > The first is the font, which Sinclair has used for > the QL branded software > packages, the latter is the sinclair label itself > with just the needed > letters ;-). Both fonts can be used with > Professional Publisher or Page > Designer 3. Dilwyn Jones is so kind to put them on > his site. > > Cheers...Ralf R. > > ___ > QL-Users Mailing List > http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm > ___ Yahoo! Messenger with Voice: chiama da PC a telefono a tariffe esclusive http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Fonts for Professional Publisher
Hi all, wanting authentical disk labels, I have designed two fonts in Professions Publisher's HiRes font designer a *lot* of years ago (in fact: very long time ago...): QL_hires Sinclair_hires The first is the font, which Sinclair has used for the QL branded software packages, the latter is the sinclair label itself with just the needed letters ;-). Both fonts can be used with Professional Publisher or Page Designer 3. Dilwyn Jones is so kind to put them on his site. Cheers...Ralf R. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
