Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-05 Thread Francois Lanciault
I would also like to see a SD card interface for the QL. We are in 2011 after all. Another thing I like about an SD card I/F is that it would be possible to develop a simple accelerator for the unexpended QL without the need for it to support floppy interface or hard drive. A bit like the

[Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Peter
Hi, data transfer from an SD card takes 0.4 microsecond per Byte in the most simple mode, while the minimum cycle of the QL bus is 1.0 microsecond. So both IDE and SD card are faster than the QL bus. SD cards are smaller and cheaper than IDE drives. Both offer more size than a QL filesystem

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Plastic
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Peter pg...@q40.de wrote: Hi, data transfer from an SD card takes 0.4 microsecond per Byte in the most simple mode, while the minimum cycle of the QL bus is 1.0 microsecond. So both IDE and SD card are faster than the QL bus. SD cards are smaller and cheaper

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
data transfer from an SD card takes 0.4 microsecond per Byte in the most simple mode, while the minimum cycle of the QL bus is 1.0 microsecond. So both IDE and SD card are faster than the QL bus. SD cards are smaller and cheaper than IDE drives. Both offer more size than a QL filesystem can

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread peet vanpeebles
--- On Fri, 4/2/11, Peter pg...@q40.de wrote: From: Peter pg...@q40.de Subject: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 11:02 Hi, data transfer from an SD card takes 0.4 microsecond per Byte in the most simple mode, while the minimum cycle

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Firshman
Plastic wrote, on 4/Feb/11 11:31 | Feb4: snip Everything you say is true. Common sense. The main problem you have to overcome is 25 years of inertia. People are familiar with hard drives. Also, people seem to think SD cars are dinky like microdrives. Oh what a *brilliant* misprint. Dinky

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Firshman
Lee Privett wrote, on 4/Feb/11 13:19 | Feb4: Plastic wrote, on 4/Feb/11 11:31 | Feb4: snip Everything you say is true. Common sense. The main problem you have to overcome is 25 years of inertia. People are familiar with hard drives. Also, people seem to think SD cars are dinky like

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Lee Privett
Yes apparently, but dont you think this looks even better? http://www.qlforum.co.uk/download/file.php?id=33mode=view Lee Privett - Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 Have you no *real* work to get on

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Plastic wrote, on 4/Feb/11 11:31 | Feb4: snip Everything you say is true. Common sense. The main problem you have to overcome is 25 years of inertia. People are familiar with hard drives. Also, people seem to think SD cars are dinky like microdrives. Oh what a *brilliant* misprint. Dinky

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Ian Pine
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card data transfer from an SD card takes 0.4 microsecond per Byte in the most simple mode, while the minimum

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Norman Dunbar
Ian, How many erase/re-write cycles is each bit in modern flash memory good for nowadays? SD cards would be great for storing libraries of programs and data that don't change frequently, but what about using them, for example, for frequently changing temporary files generated by running

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
A lot of them nowadays have load balancing code in the hardware. If it notices a hot spot, it reorganises the data to avoid that hot spot. Cheaper ones, probably done. I vaguely remember that Tony Tebby's drivers for RomDisq from TF Services might have had something like this. Tony? (Guess

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Plastic
Also, Tony, how feasible is it to repurpose the RomDisq work for use with removable flash-type storage like CompactFlash or SDHC? Dave On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote: A lot of them nowadays have load balancing code in the hardware. If it

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Firshman
Norman Dunbar wrote, on 4/Feb/11 15:46 | Feb4: Ian, How many erase/re-write cycles is each bit in modern flash memory good for nowadays? SD cards would be great for storing libraries of programs and data that don't change frequently, but what about using them, for example, for frequently

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Firshman
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 4/Feb/11 16:05 | Feb4: A lot of them nowadays have load balancing code in the hardware. If it notices a hot spot, it reorganises the data to avoid that hot spot. Cheaper ones, probably done. I vaguely remember that Tony Tebby's drivers for RomDisq from TF Services might

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Tony Firshman
Plastic wrote, on 4/Feb/11 16:50 | Feb4: Also, Tony, how feasible is it to repurpose the RomDisq work for use with removable flash-type storage like CompactFlash or SDHC? I have no documentation on Tony Tebby's driver. Of course anyone is welcome to contact him. Stuart Honeyball wrote the

Re: [Ql-Users] IDE versus SD card

2011-02-04 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Dilwyn Jones wrote: I vaguely remember that Tony Tebby's drivers for RomDisq from TF Services might have had something like this. Tony? I am willing to spend an amount for TT, if he is willing to derive the ROMdisque driver for the SD Cards. I'll hope, others are also willing to do so. I am