Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt
BTW: Does anybody knows, if this Tyche-ROM is a complete new QDOS? And 
what are the differences? Faster? Better...? Things that do not run?


Chreers...Ralf

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From: Rich Mellor


It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what that 
one is).


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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Mellor

On 13/04/2012 16:46, Ralf Reköndt wrote:
BTW: Does anybody knows, if this Tyche-ROM is a complete new QDOS? 
And what are the differences? Faster? Better...? Things that do not run?


Chreers...Ralf

- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor

It works on MG ROM, and even Tyche ROM and a TB ROM (not sure what 
that one is).


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Some more details on Tyche appear at:

http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Extremely_Rare_Sinclair_TYCHE_ROM-1452

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche ROM

2012-04-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Ah, thank you. I had a quick look through the code. There seems to be a 
backup routine and a few unknown keywords like TODIR, UPDIR, seems a bit 
like DNEXT of TK2.


Would be interesting to know, if there is code for hard directories.

Cheers...Ralf

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Some more details on Tyche appear at:

http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Extremely_Rare_Sinclair_TYCHE_ROM-1452

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-20 Thread Laurence Reeves

Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 6/Apr/11 13:23 | Apr6:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to
pronounce it (now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee.
Tyche is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:

Hmm, as Jonathan Oakley was apparently involved with the Tyche
development, this makes sense, as many of the later QView projects were
named after gods and godesses (Minerva, Hermes, etc etc)


Minerva maybe but Lau and I dreamed up Hermes.
It was not a Qview project.

Tony


Ah... but Tony... do you not remember scrabbling around looking for the 
Greek god of serial ports?


...

On the Tyche front... I (and Johnathan) pronounce it exactly as the two 
words tie and key. The OED entry for the prefix tycho- (from 
Tyche) supports this:


t - eye - k - oh

 t - as in tan
 eye - as in buy
 k - as in card, park
 oh - as in goat

The Greek spelling of Tyche is tau-upsilon-chi-eta. The upsilon does its 
usual metamorphosis from a u sound to a y, as in psycho, The chi 
just gets left with a harder k sound.


Much the same applies to the other Greek mortal, later goddess: Psyche 
(psi, upsilon, chi, iota). The Merriam-Webster will pronounce that one.


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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-20 Thread Tony Firshman

Laurence Reeves wrote, on 20/Apr/11 09:29 | Apr20:

Tony Firshman wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 6/Apr/11 13:23 | Apr6:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to
pronounce it (now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee.
Tyche is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:

Hmm, as Jonathan Oakley was apparently involved with the Tyche
development, this makes sense, as many of the later QView projects were
named after gods and godesses (Minerva, Hermes, etc etc)


Minerva maybe but Lau and I dreamed up Hermes.
It was not a Qview project.

Tony


Ah... but Tony... do you not remember scrabbling around looking for the
Greek god of serial ports?

(8-)#
Of course. Maybe we used Morpheus to help, as we are in the realms of 
the gods in this email (8-)#


...

On the Tyche front... I (and Johnathan)

(Oakley). Have I always misspelled his name, or was that a typo?

pronounce it exactly as the two
words tie and key. The OED entry for the prefix tycho- (from
Tyche) supports this:

t - eye - k - oh

t - as in tan
eye - as in buy
k - as in card, park
oh - as in goat

The Greek spelling of Tyche is tau-upsilon-chi-eta. The upsilon does its
usual metamorphosis from a u sound to a y, as in psycho, The chi
just gets left with a harder k sound.

Much the same applies to the other Greek mortal, later goddess: Psyche
(psi, upsilon, chi, iota). The Merriam-Webster will pronounce that one.



Great to see you are still lurking. Did you get my email of a few weeks 
ago?  Email me privately.


Tony

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-20 Thread gdgqler

On 6 Apr 2011, at 12:26, Norman Dunbar wrote:

 
 Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee. Tyche 
 is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:
 
 http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Tyche.htm says (amongst other stuff):
 
 Tyche (pronounced tee-chee) is the Greek goddess of fortune. Although she was 
 a daughter of Zeus, she was reputed to be quite irresponsible. She preferred 
 to run about juggling a ball than to carry the Cornucopia filled with golden 
 fruit, instead entrusting the task to her assistant Plutus. The first set of 
 dice were found in Tyche's temple perhaps indicating the capriciousness of 
 life and luck and the fickle manner in which she decided the fortunes of 
 mortals.

Tyche and Psyche are indeed both Greek words. I have never heard of Psyche 
being pronounced see key. It should be sigh key. Tyche is also, obviously, to 
be pronounced tie key (or Thai key if you like) but never Tee Chee.

The pronunciation that seems correct to me is in fact that given in Chambers 
Twentieth Century Dictionary.  This if course is published in Edinburgh 
(Scotland) and may thus be suspect to some(?).

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones

David Tubbs wrote:

At 16:51 05/04/2011 +0100, you wrote:

Question I've seen on QL Forum. What is the correct way of
pronouncing Tyche? (As in the Tyche ROM for QL-type systems)

My personal bet would be like teesh, but as was suggested it 
could

be like Tike, Tish, Tik, Taish etc. I had  alook at the Wikipedia
entry but I am not familiar with that universal pronunciation 
system

used by Wikipedia. Dilwyn Jones


I had the chip, I can only think that I got it at Milton Manor,if
that is the case it must have been spoken of and in my mind it is
firmly lodged as Tikey.


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to pronounce 
it (now why didn't I think of that?).


One Bing later and we have the suggestion from more than one source 
that it is probably like tickey, which is probably the same as your 
tikey


Thanks everyone.

Dilwyn Jones




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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 6/Apr/11 10:52 | Apr6:

David Tubbs wrote:

At 16:51 05/04/2011 +0100, you wrote:

Question I've seen on QL Forum. What is the correct way of
pronouncing Tyche? (As in the Tyche ROM for QL-type systems)

My personal bet would be like teesh, but as was suggested it could
be like Tike, Tish, Tik, Taish etc. I had alook at the Wikipedia
entry but I am not familiar with that universal pronunciation system
used by Wikipedia. Dilwyn Jones


I had the chip, I can only think that I got it at Milton Manor,if
that is the case it must have been spoken of and in my mind it is
firmly lodged as Tikey.


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to pronounce it
(now why didn't I think of that?).

One Bing later and we have the suggestion from more than one source that
it is probably like tickey, which is probably the same as your tikey

I assume the 'i' is as in 'lick'.  Tickey (A defunct threepenny African 
coin) is not exactly a common word (8-)#



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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Norman Dunbar

Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to pronounce it
(now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee. Tyche 
is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:


http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Tyche.htm says (amongst other stuff):

Tyche (pronounced tee-chee) is the Greek goddess of fortune. Although 
she was a daughter of Zeus, she was reputed to be quite irresponsible. 
She preferred to run about juggling a ball than to carry the Cornucopia 
filled with golden fruit, instead entrusting the task to her assistant 
Plutus. The first set of dice were found in Tyche's temple perhaps 
indicating the capriciousness of life and luck and the fickle manner in 
which she decided the fortunes of mortals.


Just goes to show, never trust an Internet Search Engine to give you 
*one* definitive answer! ;-) For example:


http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=Tyche

pronounces it completely differently.


Cheers,
Norman.

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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Klaus Frank og Vita Frank
I think the old Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe's name is a derivate from 
Thyce


Regards
Klaus
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From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk

To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche



Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to pronounce it
(now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee. Tyche 
is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:


http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Tyche.htm says (amongst other stuff):

Tyche (pronounced tee-chee) is the Greek goddess of fortune. Although she 
was a daughter of Zeus, she was reputed to be quite irresponsible. She 
preferred to run about juggling a ball than to carry the Cornucopia filled 
with golden fruit, instead entrusting the task to her assistant Plutus. 
The first set of dice were found in Tyche's temple perhaps indicating the 
capriciousness of life and luck and the fickle manner in which she decided 
the fortunes of mortals.


Just goes to show, never trust an Internet Search Engine to give you *one* 
definitive answer! ;-) For example:


http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=Tyche

pronounces it completely differently.


Cheers,
Norman.

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Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd

Registered address:
Thorpe House
61 Richardshaw Lane
Pudsey
West Yorkshire
United Kingdom
LS28 7EL

Company Number: 05132767
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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to
pronounce it (now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee.
Tyche is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:
Hmm, as Jonathan Oakley was apparently involved with the Tyche 
development, this makes sense, as many of the later QView projects 
were named after gods and godesses (Minerva, Hermes, etc etc)




http://www.goddess.com.au/goddesses/Tyche.htm says (amongst other
stuff):
Tyche (pronounced tee-chee) is the Greek goddess of fortune. 
Although
she was a daughter of Zeus, she was reputed to be quite 
irresponsible.

She preferred to run about juggling a ball than to carry the
Cornucopia filled with golden fruit, instead entrusting the task to
her assistant Plutus. The first set of dice were found in Tyche's
temple perhaps indicating the capriciousness of life and luck and 
the

fickle manner in which she decided the fortunes of mortals.

Just goes to show, never trust an Internet Search Engine to give you
*one* definitive answer! ;-) For example:

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=Tyche

pronounces it completely differently.
As you might expect in English, where spelling can be very 
non-phonetic, or the same spelling can be pronounced differently. 
Admittedly, it probably isn't an English word in the first place, 
though.


Never thought this thread would have so many people scouring the 
internet for a definitive answer :-)


Dilwyn Jones 




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Re: [Ql-Users] Tyche

2011-04-06 Thread Tony Firshman

Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 6/Apr/11 13:23 | Apr6:

Norman Dunbar wrote:

Afternoon all,

On 06/04/11 10:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:


Gerard Phelan had the idea of asking a search engine how to
pronounce it (now why didn't I think of that?).

That's what I did too!

http://www.forvo.com/word/tyche/

Interesting in that the word is Greek and is pronounced Tee-chee.
Tyche is/was the goddess of [good] fortune. Also:

Hmm, as Jonathan Oakley was apparently involved with the Tyche
development, this makes sense, as many of the later QView projects were
named after gods and godesses (Minerva, Hermes, etc etc)


Minerva maybe but Lau and I dreamed up Hermes.
It was not a Qview project.

Tony
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