Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-13 Thread Geogwilt
In a message dated 12/11/02 14:50:56 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you are going to use PE and you want to do it 'easily' get hold of EasyPtr (somehow) and there is a totally excellent tutorial avaiulable for download somewhere (Dilwyn's web emporium I think) which shows how to

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread ZN
On 12/11/02 at 15:57 Dave P wrote: >Thanks Nasta. Nice to see you becoming a useful member of society again ;P Why, thank you! I think... N.

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Roy Wood
In message <011601c28a98$c6658800$70065cc3@blackpc>, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Huh, just try using the DOS device in QPC (dos1_ = c:\) to access folders of any depth in the "other" OS's hard disk and you'll quickly find 36 to be a limit. I have a habit of dumping downloaded files o

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > >> A good index is essential. > >I plan to give every email a serial number. Whether a single file or one >file per email, there will be an index file with serial number, filename, >len

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones
> Finally: a small 'I told you so' for the people who keep saying the file > system is just fine and that 36 characters are enough. Funny how this can > turn out to be a limitation even for a 'simple' application, isn't it? I > TOLD YOU SO! > > Nasta Huh, just try using the DOS device in QPC (dos1

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones
> if you are going to use PE and you want to do it 'easily' get hold of > EasyPtr (somehow) and there is a totally excellent tutorial avaiulable for > download somewhere (Dilwyn's web emporium I think) Indeed, or can be emailed direct if you wish. > Until I wrote that tutorial (oops !) I used to

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, ZN wrote: > 'Has attachment' > 'Attachment removed' > > Every once in a while sort by attachment is VERY useful (as in: someone > sent me a file, where is it?). > Attachment removed is also interesting in case you want to only archive the > actual messages without attachmen

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread ZN
On 12/11/02 at 14:03 Dave P wrote: >The bitfield will actually be an integer, but I expressed it in this >example as bits: > >0 Received (1=sent with this client 0=sent with any other client) >1 Read >2 Reply sent >3 Forwarded >4 - reserved >5 - reserved >6 Archived >7 Deleted > >[timeasinteger]

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
I got hung up on the bitfield and forgot the rest. Let's try again. On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Dave P wrote: I'm currently working on how much to put in the index - quite a lot, because it'll save a lot of time. 121102001:[EMAIL PROTECTED]::[timeasinteger]:[timezone]:Subject text The bitfie

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, ZN wrote: > For a file organisation, I would vote for inbox = directory, email = file. This is precisely what i have decided to do, based on the mixed feedback. I'm currently working on how much to put in the index - quite a lot, because it'll save a lot of time. 1211020

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread ZN
[Qeymail] Darn, I can't keep up with you all even with a broadband connection - and to think that a few weeks ago people were complaining the list was dead... IIRC there is a serious limitiation in SOME file systems, and this is a _TOTAL_ number of files on a drive, which, IIRC is 65535 (if code

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread James Hunkins
Sounds very clean. I am looking forward to your program. It should also fit very cleanly into the QDT environment, especially since you plan to use the pointer environment. QDT will also be able to take advantage of the standard config blocks and will eventually offer a 'free' to use install

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > For, it would be PE, Prowess or nothing... It'll be open source, and I can do it with pointers, and anyone who wants it without pointers can take the source and edit it ;) > If you want, I could probably rapidly build you a prototype PE > applicat

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 11 Nov 2002, at 13:33, Dave P wrote: > Finally, how important would it be to use a pointer environment, or would > you be happy to use industry standard CTRL-key combinations? For, it would be PE, Prowess or nothing... If you want, I could probably rapidly build you a prototype PE applica

RE: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
- -Original Message- From: Dave P [mailto:dexter@;spodmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions... On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > Hi Dav

RE: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Norman Dunbar wrote: > Hi Dave, Hi Norman, > if you are going to use PE and you want to do it 'easily' get hold of > EasyPtr (somehow) and there is a totally excellent tutorial avaiulable for > download somewhere (Dilwyn's web emporium I think) which shows how to use it >

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, James Hunkins wrote: > I don't like the idea of a single file. Take a look at Microsoft's > email program - there have been many problems with the single file once > it gets too large. Things slow down, corruption is possible, and > trying to extract and save individual e

RE: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Dave, if you are going to use PE and you want to do it 'easily' get hold of EasyPtr (somehow) and there is a totally excellent tutorial avaiulable for download somewhere (Dilwyn's web emporium I think) which shows how to use it without having to go through the same steep learning curve that th

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-12 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, James Hunkins wrote: > > Yes, ProWess is much, much, MUCH easier to program and more powerful. > > You could even, one day, add HTML email rendering... That isn't a 'one day' thing. I plan to incorporate understanding of HTML from day 1, and have configuration that allows

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread James Hunkins
The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? I don't like the idea of a single file. Take a look at Microsoft's ema

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread James Hunkins
Yes, ProWess is much, much, MUCH easier to program and more powerful. You could even, one day, add HTML email rendering... I really don't understand why people don't program using the ProWess window manager. The usual complain was that it needed a fast QL. But these days, with the Q40, Q60 an

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 11/11/2002 9:53:36 ??, ?/? François Lanciault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: > > >Le Lundi, 11 nove 2002, à 20:17 US/Eastern, P Witte a écrit : > >>> I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out >>> in >>> very readable fashion how everything works, especially the >>>

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread François Lanciault
Le Lundi, 11 nove 2002, à 20:17 US/Eastern, P Witte a écrit : I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out in very readable fashion how everything works, especially the transactions between servers. It'll be a simple test rig. Once the mechanics are shown to work, I

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread P Witte
Dave P writes: <> > The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer > a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which > would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? > > Each has plusses and minuses. Discuss. Imho, t

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread P Witte
Dave P writes: > > In that case DATAdesign for the use you want is the best Dave! Sounds like a good idea. But check out the limitations first. > I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out in > very readable fashion how everything works, especially the transaction

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
OTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions... > > ??? 11/11/2002 4:25:07 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > &

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Malcolm Cadman wrote: > A good index is essential. I plan to give every email a serial number. Whether a single file or one file per email, there will be an index file with serial number, filename, length, date, status, etc. I am even considering copying exactly the pine

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: > In that case DATAdesign for the use you want is the best Dave! I plan to do developmental work in S*BASIC. I like to clearly lay out in very readable fashion how everything works, especially the transactions between servers. It'll be a simple tes

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there >are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or >four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit >differe

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 11/11/2002 4:40:03 ??, ?/? "Joachim Van der Auwera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: > >> > Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in >part >> > of ProWesS) springs to mind). >> >> This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other >> program, that p

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 11/11/2002 4:30:03 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: > > > >On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: > >> Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part >> of ProWesS) springs to mind). > >This will be a free, open source program. If it relies

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 11/11/2002 4:25:07 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: > > > >On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > >> I'd suggest going for pointer environment if feasible. > >Another thing to learn ;) > >I'll spend the first few weeks just building the structure and getting >back-room stuff wor

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
> > Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part > > of ProWesS) springs to mind). > > This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other > program, that program would also have to be free, and I would need to be > able to distribute it, or offer it

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: > Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as in part > of ProWesS) springs to mind). This will be a free, open source program. If it relies on any other program, that program would also have to be free, and I would ne

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dave P
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Dilwyn Jones wrote: > I'd suggest going for pointer environment if feasible. Another thing to learn ;) I'll spend the first few weeks just building the structure and getting back-room stuff working, like DNS and connecting to a mail server. > Is Qeymail based on soql or

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread jean-louis dianoux
Pointer Environment is EVER better ! - Original Message - From: "Phoebus Dokos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions... > > ??? 11/11/2002 2:33:34 ??,

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
> The main area is the actual storage method for emails. Would people prefer > a single file holding all emails, individual files for each email, which > would be indexed on startup, or individual files plus a maintained index? Why not use one the of databases which are available (DATAdesign (as

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
> While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there > are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or > four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit > different types of user, and I want to create the best experience for

Re: [ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 11/11/2002 2:33:34 ??, ?/? Dave P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ??: >Hi all, > >While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there >are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or >four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benef

[ql-users] Qeymail, last call for suggestions...

2002-11-11 Thread Dave P
Hi all, While I've done a lot of work on look-and-feel stuff for Qeymail, there are some behind the scenes things I'm not too sure about. Where three or four strategies exist to solve a problem, different solutions will benefit different types of user, and I want to create the best experience fo