Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Commercial (price undecided yet) and a demo version: useable, but limited by the number of program icons which can be set up. Please do NOT flame me. I mean no disrespect to anyone involved in developing QL software or hardware. I am a casual user, who has just recently gotten back

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Martin
Quoting Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not flaming you by any means! Glad to see you taking such interest in the QL. Thank you, and thanks to those that responded. I had, semi-consciously, in my mind been comparing the QL software scene to, say, the Commodore 8-bit scene, where it's hard

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
If there's any information material you'd like to borrow from my website to help you with this, please feel free Dilwyn Jones I have sinclairql.{net,org,com} registered now. I'll be putting up postnuke and a few other things. The idea of a program list with maintainers/developers, home

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Gerhard Plavec
Hi old QL-fellows :) -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juli 2003 20:25 Betreff: Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally) You are mistaken. There are plenty of commercial programs and many free ones. We have the c68

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread wlenerz
On 17 Jul 2003 at 9:42, Gerhard Plavec wrote: Hi old QL-fellows :) old? he he Oh... and where can I get the OpenSource SMSQ/E to compile it by myself ? open source is an unfortunate expression (please, let's not get into THAT debate again). You can get the SMSQ/E sources from me. Send me

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Mark Martin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For me,t he decisoin to have most software as paid programs stems from a single question: What holds the QL community still together? And my answer is that I believe that it is the traders. This makes a lot of sense to me, actually.

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Mark Martin
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, the problem now is who is going to do it, and not only that, but MAINTAIN it. Its all very well putting it up to being with, but it would be a dead loss if not updated very regularly. I have sinclairql.{net,org,com} registered now. I'll be

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Tarquin Mills
Mark Martin wrote: I had hopes of porting some useful applications to QL. Or of even writing them. I'm finding, after having only just recently purchased a QXL card and setting up a box, that I almost have to purchase a bit more software to do any serious development on this box. I am

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Sinclair QL ES
- Original Message - From: Mark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally) I have sinclairql.{net,org,com} registered now. I'll be putting up postnuke

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Jonathan Dent
Hi Mark I'm sending you soQL privately let me know if it doesn't arrive Jon. - Original Message - From: Mark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-17 Thread Phoebus Dokos
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:23:06 +0200, Jonathan Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, I already sent it to him :-) Phoebus -- Phoebus Dokos - Undergrad in MIS Eberly College of Business - Indiana U. of PA

QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread Mark Martin
Quoting Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Will you be releasing this as freeware or shareware, or as a commercial product? Mark Commercial (price undecided yet) and a demo version: useable, but limited by the number of program icons which can be set up. Please do NOT flame me. I mean

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread Roy wood
SNIP I'm curious to understand why just about anything for the QL is commercial. Is there that much of a market for QL software in Europe or the rest of the world BESIDES the US? I might have a mistaken impression that any QL computing done nowadays is by dedicated hobbyists. I guess I've

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread Dave P
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Roy wood wrote: There are a lot of free programs around - go to Theirry's website and have a look. There are also a lot of commercial programs around too. One of the things I think would help would be a list just like Thierry's but with a couple of differences. Like

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread Phoebus Dokos
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:57:48 -0500 (CDT), Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Roy wood wrote: There are a lot of free programs around - go to Theirry's website and have a look. There are also a lot of commercial programs around too. One of the things I think would help would

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread Mark Martin
Quoting Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uQLx supports TCP/IP via the host for ages now and so is Q40 Linux (Q40 is a QL compatible www.q40.de in case you don't know). soQL is practically ready (for even vanilla QLs thanks to Jon Dent) and also a port of QL-uwIP for also vanilla QLs (and

Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)

2003-07-16 Thread wlenerz
On 16 Jul 2003 at 12:28, Mark Martin wrote: (...) Please do NOT flame me. people don't generally get flamed on this list, as ong as they express themselves civilly (which is you case) (...) I'm curious to understand why just about anything for the QL is commercial. Others have