Re: [ql-users] Procedures (unknown)
Marcel Kilgus wrote: snip Hope this helps, Marcel Yes, it does. Thanks for keeping Smsq alive. François Van emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QXL: SMSQ
In a message dated 26/09/04 03:23:42 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So this assumes that all or most tasks within SMSQ/E can be done with fewer 20+ instructions. I'm not sure about that. Of course that applies on real machines only because on PC based 68K emulators that would be completely pointless Actually emulators would gain far more than the native hardware if your assumption is right and the instruction count could be significantly reduced. Marcel Instruction groups, which may appear anywhere, such as: moveq #19,d0 lp move.w d0,d1 add.w d1,d1 add.w d1,d1 move.l table(d1.w),d2 . . dbf d0,lp can be replaced by: moveq #19,d0 lpmove.l table(d0.w*4),d2 . . dbf d0,lp This not only reduces the number of instructions but also the number of registers used. This can in certain circumstances be an even greater help. Another place where using 68020+ instructions reduces the number of instructions is in the conversion of long integers to Qdos floating point. I might also mention the bit field instructions, but perhaps I has better not! George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL Hardware for free
Hi all, I'd like to get rid of my QL hardware. 'I NEED MORE SPACE FOR MY ...', she said. So it will be the garbage can or a new home (and perhaps a new life) for: a) 1 Trump Card Miracle systems b) 1 256k Expanderam c) 1 Floppy controller CST d) 1 Centronics Printer Interface Miracle systems e) 2 dual floppy drives (got them from an ex QL user) f) 1 TK2 Care Qjump g) 1 Ice h) 1 CUB Microvitec 653 i) 1 QXL card Miracle systems j) 1 Black Sinclair Printer The above hardware hasn't been used for many years and I haven't got a Black Box' anymore to do some testing. If you're interested, send me an Email. As I don't feel like sending the goods by mail, you'll have to come to QL2004 or ask someone to get one, some or all the pieces of hardware for you. I hope they will all find a new second home. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QXL: SMSQ- 68020+ Instructions
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 at 10:33:12, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 26/09/04 19:23:40 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This has been suggested as a possible topic for discussion at QL2004. Any opinions about this? Is it better for separate discussion or for the forum? I would think it a mite specialised. That is another way of saying that I know nothing about this (8-)# Tony I would welcome a discussion of the implications of using 68020+ instructions. The instructions themselves may be considered the specailised domain of that curious set of assembler programmers, but resulting programs are for everyone. I asume QD is written in assembler for example. Surely this discussion would be better as a separate meeting. Forum time will probably be limited, as it is at the end of the day. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware for free
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:04:38 +0200, Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, So it will be the garbage can or a new home (and perhaps a new life) for: a) 1 Trump Card Miracle systems b) 1 256k Expanderam c) 1 Floppy controller CST d) 1 Centronics Printer Interface Miracle systems e) 2 dual floppy drives (got them from an ex QL user) f) 1 TK2 Care Qjump g) 1 Ice h) 1 CUB Microvitec 653 i) 1 QXL card Miracle systems QXL card has found a new home already j) 1 Black Sinclair Printer I hope they will all find a new second home. Franois Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm Interested interested :-) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware for free
Interested interested :-) Phoebus Does that mean that you are coming to Eindhoven? Would be great to meet a yours truly at last ;) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QXL: SMSQ
George Gwilt writes: Another place where using 68020+ instructions reduces the number of instructions is in the conversion of long integers to Qdos floating point. Demonstration, please! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] locking a window?
Anyone have any ideas of how I can lock a window so that it can't be picked to the top under SMSQ/E if the mouse clicks on a visible part of it? It sounds like there might not be an official way to do this but creative ways are always entertaining. QDT often calls other programs which run in separate windows. The calling window is locked to the degree where it is kind of in standby and will not accept any user input. But if you accidentally click on the original window, it currently pops to the top and may accidentally cover the window that is accepting input. Any suggestions will be more than welcome. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] locking a window?
On 28 Sep 2004 at 10:42, James Hunkins wrote: (...) QDT often calls other programs which run in separate windows. The calling window is locked to the degree where it is kind of in standby and will not accept any user input. But if you accidentally click on the original window, it currently pops to the top and may accidentally cover the window that is accepting input. Any suggestions will be more than welcome. I'm not sure this will help: 1- Have a look at the documentation for IOP.PICK - you can mark a window as unlockable. I'm not sure exactly what this implies, I haven't had time to check yet. 2 -is the calling window still needed? wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QXL: SMSQ- 68020+ Instructions
On 28 Sep 2004 at 17:29, Tony Firshman wrote: Surely this discussion would be better as a separate meeting. Forum time will probably be limited, as it is at the end of the day. Umm, in view of the far-ranging repercussions this might have , a good airing at the meeting might be beneficial. Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] locking a window?
James Hunkins writes: Anyone have any ideas of how I can lock a window so that it can't be picked to the top under SMSQ/E if the mouse clicks on a visible part of it? It sounds like there might not be an official way to do this but creative ways are always entertaining. QDT often calls other programs which run in separate windows. The calling window is locked to the degree where it is kind of in standby and will not accept any user input. But if you accidentally click on the original window, it currently pops to the top and may accidentally cover the window that is accepting input. Any suggestions will be more than welcome. Provided Ive understood the situation correctly, ie QDT is the calling job that has accidentally been picked to the top, you can: Execute somejob, getting it's ID (eg FEX / EXF or FEP) read pointer, trapping pointer-in-window (vector 32) if somejob's gone then continue normal QDT operations else re-pick somejob to top of pile endif An EasyPtr program to test the concept goes: 100 OUTL 110 id = FEP(calc) 120 REPeat 130 RDPT#0; 32 140 PTOP id 150 END REPeat You'll see it is impossible to pick the window of the calling job until you quit Calc. HTH Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware for free
- Original Message - From: Marcel Kilgus Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware for free Phoebus R. Dokos (F??ß?? ?. ?t) wrote: Interested interested :-) Didn't know you'll going to be at QL2004 ;-) Of course, we would love to see you provided you don't bring that woman who says NO all the time with you, Best Wishes, Geoff PS Those who do not understand this cryptic message will have to wait unti QL2004 to learn the truth. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL2004 - Q60 Linux appeal
Unfortunately we are not expecting any Q60 representation at QL2004, but Wolgang Lenerz has promised to give a 15 - 30 minute demo of his Q60. However neither he nor George Gwilt, who is another Q60 user and who will also be at QL2004, have used the Linux possibilities of the Q60. Is there anyone who will be QL2004 and who has Q60 Linux experience? This could be either part of the formal demonstration or just giving information to anyone who is interested. On a slightly different topic if there are any of the more technical topics you would like discussed such as the 68020, we can always arrange for a small technical group to do this. Most of the speakers and demonstraters have indicated they want no more than 30 minutes so we have some spare time in the lecture room. We can arrange this sort of thing at the last minute on the day. Geoff Wicks http://members.lycos.co.uk/geoffwicks/ql2004.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] locking a window?
Wolfgang Lenerz writes: I'm not sure this will help: 1- Have a look at the documentation for IOP.PICK - you can mark a window as unlockable. I'm not sure exactly what this implies, I haven't had time to check yet. Unlockable simply means that any output by the unlockable job will be produced on screen, even if you cover its window, ie it really screws up your display! The only use Ive ever found for this feature is to do post mortems on certain programs that produce an error message and then die before you have time to read what it says. Execute such a program using EXEP filename, u Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
