RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-12-04 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 3 Dec 2004 at 21:58, Duncan Neithercut wrote:

 the GUI  - I find that it does not list all printer drivers
 correctly -
 loses first the one  so passes the driver ID one position out of
 step to the filter. I only have 6 installed only the Epson stylus
 ones.

Ooops, yes, done.

 Also the radio button Yes for print on the screen
 does not clear when switched off No. Both remain selected so its
 difficult to know what is selected.

Done

Ok, there is a new version on my website.

This is a real beta version, meaning that I hope to have most bugs out, the 
doc is in sync with the facilities and it *should* now work with Qdos, which 
doesn't have named pipes. That aspect is not testes (yet).
I'd be greatful if somebody could test it on a Qdos machine...

The GUI is renamed PCP, there are many bugfixes.

To be done:

** Freeze the interface between the PCP and the filters.

(this depends on the feature y'all want - up to now I've seen - colour to be 
printed it + choose the font (this latter will NOT be implemented at first, 
until somebody tells me of another fontpack i.e. normal + bold +italic+ bold 
italic).

** Implement this interface in the PCP and the filter supplied.

RTM!

as usual at:

www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com/14mljkl24/wolf/download/


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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:58:46 -,() Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

Just a quick question
I use the function SCR_XLIM in QWord to read the screen dimensions.  It  
works under SMSQ/e on QPC2 and Aurora, but returns channel not open  
under Minerva

Am I right in thinking that the reason for this is that it defaults to  
using #1.
Under SMSQ/e if #1 is not open when a command attempts to use it by  
default, then the command is redirected to #0.  This seems a fair  
assumption - but surely it would be better if system commands all used  
#0 anyway?

SCR_XLIM is an SMQ/e only function AFAIK
I thought you were using the DISPLAY2_CDE for that
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[ql-users] Checking for screen mode on Aurora

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
I have been testing out QWord on the Aurora and can report that it works  
nicely under SMSQ/e.

However, I am having problems in getting it to work under the native  
Minerva o/s.  The idea is that it talks directly with the Aurora display  
hardware and therefore avoids the need to have SMSQ/e running.

Before now, the program uses a small machine code routine to check if the  
machine it is running on is an Aurora and then it checked whether the GD2  
drivers were present.

If they were present, then it presumed it was running under SMSQ/e,  
otherwise it knows it has to talk directly to the Aurora display.  This  
used to work fine until I came to test it today.

The reason it no longer works is because the latest PTR_GEN and WMAN set  
up the system calls for GD2, even though the machine it is running on  
cannot handle it.  So, what is the best way of overcoming this - ie.  
knowing that we are using Aurora - are the drivers available to output in  
full colour?

It is no good testing the ROM version, just in case someone releases a  
high colour version of Minerva.

The code I currently use is:
RW_GD2
* Routine to check for availability of GD2 colour drivers
  moveq #0,d0Presume default is #0
  cmpa.la3,a5
  beq.s no_GD2CH No parameter
  lea.l 1*8(a3),a0
  cmpa.la0,a5One parameters?
  bne   bad_param
  btst  #7,1(a3,a6.l)First one preceded by hash?
  beq   bad_param
  movea.w   $0112,a2 SB.GTINT - Fetch the integer  
params
  jsr   (a2)
  bne   bad_exit
  moveq #0,d0
  move.w0(a6,a1.l),d0Get BASIC channel number
no_GD2CH
  bsr   GetChannelID Convert channel number to channel  
ID
  tst.l d0
  bne   what_chan

* First of all check for pointer interface
  moveq #$70,d0  IOP.PINF
  moveq #-1,d3
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0   Is the pointer interface present?
  bne   no_ptr   Return -19 (no pointer interface)
  moveq #$6F,d0  IOP.SLNK to get pointer device  
definition block
  moveq #0,d1Position in linkage to set
  moveq #1,d2Number of bytes to set (0)
  moveq #-1,d3   Timeout
  suba.la1,a1Pointer to data to set
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0
  bne   no_ptr

  move.l$128(a1),d1  Grab pt_ident
  moveq #0,d5
  cmpi.l#'PTR2',d1   Check for GD2 drivers
  bne   no_GD2
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  moveq #1,d1
  move.w#0,(a4)  Store GD2 drivers present flag
  bra   float_ret
no_GD2
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  move.w#1,(a4)
  lea.l PointerDef_addr,a4
  move.la1,(a4) Store pointer definition block  
address
  moveq #0,d1
  bra   float_ret

no_ptr
  moveq #-19,d1
  bra   float_ret
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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 11:19:24 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Sat, 04 Dec 2004 15:58:46 -,() Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

Just a quick question
I use the function SCR_XLIM in QWord to read the screen dimensions.  It  
works under SMSQ/e on QPC2 and Aurora, but returns channel not open  
under Minerva

Am I right in thinking that the reason for this is that it defaults to  
using #1.
Under SMSQ/e if #1 is not open when a command attempts to use it by  
default, then the command is redirected to #0.  This seems a fair  
assumption - but surely it would be better if system commands all used  
#0 anyway?

SCR_XLIM is an SMQ/e only function AFAIK
I thought you were using the DISPLAY2_CDE for that
Yes - you are probably right - but I think that it defaults to #1 in both  
cases

Never mind - have just opened #1 within the program to overcome this.   
Detection of high colour drivers is more of a problem though - see other  
email

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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 Yes - you are probably right - but I think that it defaults to #1 in
both
 cases

 Never mind - have just opened #1 within the program to overcome
this.
 Detection of high colour drivers is more of a problem though - see
other
 email

Most resolution checking extensions using iop.flim require an open
window channel to return maximum window size. Some such as the SMSQE
ones implicitly open a channel, so it seems to the user that it
doesn't newed one. DISPLAY_CDE extensions don't have a default
channel, you must give them the lowest valid CON channel number. It
doesn't have to be a big window though, just a little 8x8 window (some
extensions will work with minimum 2x1 window, never tested display_cde
on that).

The latest display_cde has extensions for detecting GD2 and a few
other bits and pieces. I thinkit's on my website, if not, I can email
you a copy.

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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Sat, 04 Dec 2004 19:07:11 -,() Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 18:03:18 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Yes - you are probably right - but I think that it defaults to #1 in
both
cases
Never mind - have just opened #1 within the program to overcome
this.
Detection of high colour drivers is more of a problem though - see
other
email
Most resolution checking extensions using iop.flim require an open
window channel to return maximum window size. Some such as the SMSQE
ones implicitly open a channel, so it seems to the user that it
doesn't newed one. DISPLAY_CDE extensions don't have a default
channel, you must give them the lowest valid CON channel number. It
doesn't have to be a big window though, just a little 8x8 window (some
extensions will work with minimum 2x1 window, never tested display_cde
on that).
OK - of course I should have implicitly specified a channel number !!  
Silly me.

The latest display_cde has extensions for detecting GD2 and a few
other bits and pieces. I thinkit's on my website, if not, I can email
you a copy.
Just had a look - your GD2 code looks very similar to mine (can't  
remember if I sent you the code or vice versa).  Anyway, it has the same  
problem (?) in that it will always return a value of 1 (indicating GD2  
is present) whenever the current WMAN / PTR_GEN is present, even if its  
hardware that doesn't support the GD2 drivers (or the GD2 drivers  
haven't been written, such as Minerva on an Aurora machine).

Rich,
the code was working fine... and the Aurora version (I still have) still  
works fine on my Aurora under both Minerva and SMSQ/e
Did you change anything?

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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:41:20 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


Rich,
the code was working fine... and the Aurora version (I still have) still  
works fine on my Aurora under both Minerva and SMSQ/e
Did you change anything?

Phoebus

Nope - this seems to be linked to the version of ptr_gen and wman that you  
are using

I presume that I can use the latest version on Minerva hmm not tried  
to run a program under them though... (had to reformat that hard disk as  
well - drat !!)

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[ql-users] How many repeats this time?

2004-12-04 Thread Dilwyn Jones
All right, who's been sabotaging tesco.net?

Like this email, I sent one copy to ql-users, one copy to Jochen's
QLNews list.

Every time I've dialled up tonight I've had another copy back. That's
what I get for threatening to put a picture of all those nice QL
people in a calendar.

Some of the alcohol must have leaked into the PC...and I've got to get
up at 0515 tomorrow for work, not a nice thought to go to bed on in a
moment, 10 copies of every email I send coming back.

Jochen claims I sent 5 copies to QLNews. Rather clever as I only sent
it once. In turn, his email back to me had 5 copies of the original
email attached, so that's 10 I've had back in total! I've heard of
Christmas Spirit but this is ridiculous.

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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 19:47:58 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Just had a look - your GD2 code looks very similar to mine (can't
remember
if I sent you the code or vice versa).  Anyway, it has the same
problem
(?) in that it will always return a value of 1 (indicating GD2 is
present)
whenever the current WMAN / PTR_GEN is present, even if its hardware
that
doesn't support the GD2 drivers (or the GD2 drivers haven't been
written,
such as Minerva on an Aurora machine).
You and Marcel told me how to detect GD2. If the OS/WMAN/Whatever
supports GD2 it will return GD2 present code no matter what colours.
It only detects a GD2-capable OS, you could probably go by mode number
after checking for GD2.

I think the code needs to be updated then to try and maybe set a high  
colour mode (but which one cos that depends on the hardware !!)

Problem is that WMAN is reporting that it supports GD2 - its just the fact  
that the drivers for the o/s don't exist

Where's Jochen and Marcel when you need them !!
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[ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
Dilwyn et al...
In the absence of comments from Jochen / Marcel I think the problem is  
that WMAN is reporting that GD2 is available.  What we need to do is then  
go on to see if the colour drivers are available if GD2 is present.

Guess the only way of doing this is to try and use one of the new commands  
added by the device drivers to set the ink / paper etc...  However, I  
cannot find the GD2 documentation anywhere which describes the new system  
calls - can someone point me in the right direction??

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 21:00:27 -, Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Dilwyn et al...
In the absence of comments from Jochen / Marcel I think the problem is  
that WMAN is reporting that GD2 is available.  What we need to do is  
then go on to see if the colour drivers are available if GD2 is present.

Guess the only way of doing this is to try and use one of the new  
commands added by the device drivers to set the ink / paper etc...   
However, I cannot find the GD2 documentation anywhere which describes  
the new system calls - can someone point me in the right direction??

OK - found the documentation on Thierry's website - this should surely  
also be on the SMSQ/e site and possibly Marcel's ??

Just spotted a slight problem - does anyone remember the System toolkit?   
That added some extra commands, including TRAP #3, D0=$50 to read file  
attributes (such as read only).  Let's hope there's no software that uses  
this as it is IOW.papp on colour drivers (set paper to system palette)!!

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 21:12:33 -, Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 21:00:27 -, Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dilwyn et al...
Guess the only way of doing this is to try and use one of the new  
commands added by the device drivers to set the ink / paper etc...   
However, I cannot find the GD2 documentation anywhere which describes  
the new system calls - can someone point me in the right direction??

OK - found the documentation on Thierry's website - this should surely  
also be on the SMSQ/e site and possibly Marcel's ??
This works - amended code appears below.  However, Dilwyn, if you want to  
incorporate this into the display toolkit, you will need to read the  
existing strip colour before attempting to set it with IOW.INKP - I  
haven't bothered as I shall not be calling this from BASIC.

RW_GD2
* Routine to check for availability of GD2 colour drivers
  moveq #0,d0Presume default is #0
  cmpa.la3,a5
  beq.s no_GD2CH No parameter
  lea.l 1*8(a3),a0
  cmpa.la0,a5One parameters?
  bne   bad_param
  btst  #7,1(a3,a6.l)First one preceded by hash?
  beq   bad_param
  movea.w   $0112,a2 SB.GTINT - Fetch the integer  
params
  jsr   (a2)
  bne   bad_exit
  moveq #0,d0
  move.w0(a6,a1.l),d0Get BASIC channel number
no_GD2CH
  bsr   GetChannelID Convert channel number to channel  
ID
  tst.l d0
  bne   what_chan

* First of all check for pointer interface
  moveq #$70,d0  IOP.PINF
  moveq #-1,d3
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0   Is the pointer interface present?
  bne   no_ptr   Return -19 (no pointer interface)
  moveq #$6F,d0  IOP.SLNK to get pointer device  
definition block
  moveq #0,d1Position in linkage to set
  moveq #1,d2Number of bytes to set (0)
  moveq #-1,d3   Timeout
  suba.la1,a1Pointer to data to set
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0
  bne   no_ptr

  move.l$128(a1),d1  Grab pt_ident
  moveq #0,d5
  cmpi.l#'PTR2',d1   Check for GD2 drivers
  bne   no_GD2
* New code appears in this section
* GD2 is present - however are the colour drivers present?
* Need to add code to read and store the existing INK colour and then  
reset it at teh end of the IOW.INKP call
  moveq #-1,d3
  moveq #12,d1   System Palette Colour 12
  moveq #-1,d2   No combination colour
  moveq #$52,d0  IOW.INKP - try to set ink using  
system palette
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0
  bne   no_GD2   System Trap does not exist -  
therefore no colour drivers
* End of new code
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  moveq #1,d1
  move.w#0,(a4)  Store GD2 drivers present flag
  bra   float_ret

no_GD2
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  move.w#1,(a4)
  lea.l PointerDef_addr,a4
  move.la1,(a4) Store pointer definition block  
address
  moveq #0,d1
  bra   float_ret

no_ptr
  moveq #-19,d1
  bra   float_ret
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Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?

2004-12-04 Thread James Hunkins
Sounds like someone has a virus going again.  I received several copies 
but not as part of the normal email list.  Either the virus has gotten 
email addresses from the mail list or someone with my email address 
(and others) in their address book has the virus.

Jim
On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
All right, who's been sabotaging tesco.net?
Like this email, I sent one copy to ql-users, one copy to Jochen's
QLNews list.
Every time I've dialled up tonight I've had another copy back. That's
what I get for threatening to put a picture of all those nice QL
people in a calendar.
Some of the alcohol must have leaked into the PC...and I've got to get
up at 0515 tomorrow for work, not a nice thought to go to bed on in a
moment, 10 copies of every email I send coming back.
Jochen claims I sent 5 copies to QLNews. Rather clever as I only sent
it once. In turn, his email back to me had 5 copies of the original
email attached, so that's 10 I've had back in total! I've heard of
Christmas Spirit but this is ridiculous.
Hope you've all got your QaLendars by now...
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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread James Hunkins
I actually use a 1x1 window at position 0x0 for this.  Since I don't 
normally do anything else with this but use it for a dummy channel for 
screen size detection, it works great.

One note of caution, if you do one this small, make sure you do not 
have borders set to any size other than 0.  It seems that the opw_con 
call go ahead and attempt to setup a window even if there is not enough 
room for borders.  I was getting away with this until the other day 
when it starting locking things up.  Seems like the error trapping in 
opw_con isn't quite smart enough to check for stupid code like what I 
tried to do :)

jim
On Dec 4, 2004, at 10:03 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
Yes - you are probably right - but I think that it defaults to #1 in
both
cases
Never mind - have just opened #1 within the program to overcome
this.
Detection of high colour drivers is more of a problem though - see
other
email
Most resolution checking extensions using iop.flim require an open
window channel to return maximum window size. Some such as the SMSQE
ones implicitly open a channel, so it seems to the user that it
doesn't newed one. DISPLAY_CDE extensions don't have a default
channel, you must give them the lowest valid CON channel number. It
doesn't have to be a big window though, just a little 8x8 window (some
extensions will work with minimum 2x1 window, never tested display_cde
on that).
The latest display_cde has extensions for detecting GD2 and a few
other bits and pieces. I thinkit's on my website, if not, I can email
you a copy.
Dilwyn Jones
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[ql-users] uQLx-win32

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Hi,
all...
Dutch version of the uQLx-win32 homepage uploaded (Thanks to Marco)
Spanish version thanks to Javier Guerra coming up too
Phoebus
Dutch version
URL:http://uqlx.dokos-gr.net/indexnl.html
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Re: [ql-users] QL Calendar

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
Snippety-snip
Any complaints about it being in non-QL format and I'll replace it
with a calendar with pictures of Tony Firshman, Rich Mellor, Jochen
Merz, Stuart Honeyball, Bill Richardson, Geoff Wicks, Darren Branagh,
John Mason, Roy Wood, Joachim van der Auwera, Tony Tebby and Phoebus
Dokos. You have been warned!

Dilwyn Jones
(Been at the sherry again...Trying to lose as many friends in one
email as possible!)
Please put my picture on That way surely you will lose all your friends  
forever ;-)

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Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?

2004-12-04 Thread John Gilpin

- Original Message - 
From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: QL News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?


 Sounds like someone has a virus going again.  I received several copies
 but not as part of the normal email list.  Either the virus has gotten
 email addresses from the mail list or someone with my email address
 (and others) in their address book has the virus.

 Jim

6 copies for me on two different email addresses but it's a great
QaLalendar. Thanks Dilwyn.

John Gilpin.


 On Dec 4, 2004, at 11:53 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote:

  All right, who's been sabotaging tesco.net?
 
  Like this email, I sent one copy to ql-users, one copy to Jochen's
  QLNews list.
 
  Every time I've dialled up tonight I've had another copy back. That's
  what I get for threatening to put a picture of all those nice QL
  people in a calendar.
 
  Some of the alcohol must have leaked into the PC...and I've got to get
  up at 0515 tomorrow for work, not a nice thought to go to bed on in a
  moment, 10 copies of every email I send coming back.
 
  Jochen claims I sent 5 copies to QLNews. Rather clever as I only sent
  it once. In turn, his email back to me had 5 copies of the original
  email attached, so that's 10 I've had back in total! I've heard of
  Christmas Spirit but this is ridiculous.
 
  Hope you've all got your QaLendars by now...
 
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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Sat, 4 Dec 2004 at 21:12:33, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])

OK - found the documentation on Thierry's website - this should surely
also be on the SMSQ/e site and possibly Marcel's ??
... so what is Thierry's site.

http://www.imaginet.fr/~godefroy/english/index.html

no longer works.

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:00:52 +,() Tony Firshman  
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On  Sat, 4 Dec 2004 at 21:12:33, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
OK - found the documentation on Thierry's website - this should surely
also be on the SMSQ/e site and possibly Marcel's ??
... so what is Thierry's site.
http://www.imaginet.fr/~godefroy/english/index.html
no longer works.
Tony
But this does :-)
url:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2

2004-12-04 Thread James Hunkins
Thanks, was wondering what happened to his site.  A major resource and 
I hated not being able to find it.

Cheers,
jim
OK - found the documentation on Thierry's website - this should 
surely
also be on the SMSQ/e site and possibly Marcel's ??
But this does :-)
url:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/
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Re: [ql-users] SCR_XLIM on SMSQ/e

2004-12-04 Thread P Witte
James Hunkins writes:

 I actually use a 1x1 window at position 0x0 for this.  Since I don't
 normally do anything else with this but use it for a dummy channel for
 screen size detection, it works great.

If all you want is a window channel - but no window - that doesnt affect
anything else on screen, then why not go the whole hog? con_0x0a0x0 is fine
in SMSQ/E (except for one or two older versions when this feature was
broken). If you want to be compatible with Qdos/Minerva con_2x1a0x0 is the
minimum.

Per

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Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?

2004-12-04 Thread P Witte
John Gilpin writes:

  Sounds like someone has a virus going again.  I received several copies
  but not as part of the normal email list.  Either the virus has gotten
  email addresses from the mail list or someone with my email address
  (and others) in their address book has the virus.
 
  Jim

 6 copies for me on two different email addresses but it's a great
 QaLalendar. Thanks Dilwyn.

Ha! I got 9! (so far). Thanks Dilwyn. I dont know what I did to deserve
this. Nice calendar though ;)

I also dont know how it got to me at
Aministrator @ me . fsbusiness . co . uk

Per

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Re: [ql-users] How many repeats this time?

2004-12-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:48:11 -,() P Witte  
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John Gilpin writes:
 Sounds like someone has a virus going again.  I received several  
copies
 but not as part of the normal email list.  Either the virus has gotten
 email addresses from the mail list or someone with my email address
 (and others) in their address book has the virus.

 Jim

6 copies for me on two different email addresses but it's a great
QaLalendar. Thanks Dilwyn.
Ha! I got 9! (so far). Thanks Dilwyn. I dont know what I did to deserve
this. Nice calendar though ;)
I also dont know how it got to me at
Aministrator @ me . fsbusiness . co . uk
Per
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Weird it didn't come to me but once :-)
That should teach Dilwyn not to use Outlook ;-)
Thunderbird isn't that bad and resembles OE very much btw...
(I wouldn't call it the best mailer of course... but compared to OE it is  
light years ahead :-)

Phoebus
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