Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
It was my impression that when Quanta last printed the book, they owned the rights. My copy was printed in 1989 and it says quite clearly: "Copyright 1989 Quanta" So, either Quanta does own the rights, or the book I have is wrong. Either way, I think it would be nice to see it published electronically. If Jan Jones does own the rights, maybe Quanta could approach her and ask her if she is willing to allow it to be freely distributed. I'd be willing to help scan the document in. The hardest part would be creating the graphics from the book. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Snow (OT)
On 18 Dec 2004 at 9:52, Phoebus Dokos wrote: > Come on over then :-) Leave your keys to your house at Hall C - Charles De > Gaulle airport... I will pick them up on the way over ;-) Even the > terrible weather of Paris looks nice right about now ;-) Not from where I stand... Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:59:51 +,Î(Î) Steven Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: Hello folks, Why not ask the author to relinquish copyright and allow it to be posted, maybe in pdf format. Jan Jones could not have been earning much royalties from this book recently and future sales will be negligible. I am a great believer in people releasing software and literature from copyright after they have stopped supporting the software or re-printing copies of the book. Steven Moore That is a nice idea if she agrees... However noone can force anybody to relinquish their copyright... Especially if there's still interest in their book. I do not see why an on-demand reprint scheme would be problematic... moreover the book will actually be cheaper and the author will get more royalties (And Quanta won't have to bother with other details other than uploading a PDF file) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
Hello folks, Why not ask the author to relinquish copyright and allow it to be posted, maybe in pdf format. Jan Jones could not have been earning much royalties from this book recently and future sales will be negligible. I am a great believer in people releasing software and literature from copyright after they have stopped supporting the software or re-printing copies of the book. Steven Moore On 18 Dec 2004, at 2:40 pm, Phoebus Dokos wrote: ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:36:43 -,Î(Î) Dr Colin F Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: I do so agree with the latter points, why not just ask Jan Jones if she would like her book to still be in print and earning royalties. I guess even I could answer that question! cheers Colin Yes! I don't know anyone that wouldn't agree to that unless they thought that their book was not good... but if you agree to a reprint once you will a second (and third... and fourth...) times... Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Snow (OT)
ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:46:16 +0100,Î(Î) Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: On 18 Dec 2004 at 9:39, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (.) NOOO We have enough as it is... wanna trade? :-D YS Come on over then :-) Leave your keys to your house at Hall C - Charles De Gaulle airport... I will pick them up on the way over ;-) Even the terrible weather of Paris looks nice right about now ;-) Phoebus (-9oC this morning... Had -15oC "real feel" temp this morning! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Snow (OT)
On 18 Dec 2004 at 9:39, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (.) > > NOOO > We have enough as it is... wanna trade? :-D YS Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 14:36:43 -,Î(Î) Dr Colin F Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: I do so agree with the latter points, why not just ask Jan Jones if she would like her book to still be in print and earning royalties. I guess even I could answer that question! cheers Colin Yes! I don't know anyone that wouldn't agree to that unless they thought that their book was not good... but if you agree to a reprint once you will a second (and third... and fourth...) times... Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Access to EXEP through assembly or C68?
ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:25:27 +0100,Î(Î) Wolfgang Lenerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: On 18 Dec 2004 at 3:52, James Hunkins wrote: (...) Wolfgang, while I have been following the printer stuff, I have not had a chance to dig into it enough or work out the Printer object in QDT far enough to say either way about PFF. Well, when you get to the specification part, let me know...:-))) (..) Hopefully you are heading out for some holiday fun. If so, enjoy and happy holidays! Thanks, and keep your fingers crossed for enogh snow . NOOO We have enough as it is... wanna trade? :-D Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: Sorry, but Quanta don't own the rights to Jan Jones book. The agreement was that Quanta would be the publisher and we paid Jan Jones a royalty for each book printed. We did two print runs whilst I was treasurer and sold all of them. It would be uneconomic to do another print run and publishing electronically would be illegal. John Taylor. Why? Electronic Publishing ensures Jan Jones would even get her funds faster. If the agreement is "do a run give me royalties" what is more beneficial for everyone than making money? Illegality would exist ONLY if you printed without a. Intent to pay royalties and b. an agreement... Phoebus I do so agree with the latter points, why not just ask Jan Jones if she would like her book to still be in print and earning royalties. I guess even I could answer that question! cheers Colin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Access to EXEP through assembly or C68?
On 18 Dec 2004 at 3:52, James Hunkins wrote: (...) > Wolfgang, while I have been following the printer stuff, I have not had > a chance to dig into it enough or work out the Printer object in QDT > far enough to say either way about PFF. Well, when you get to the specification part, let me know...:-))) (..) > Hopefully you are heading out for some holiday fun. If so, enjoy and > happy holidays! Thanks, and keep your fingers crossed for enogh snow . Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
ÎÎÎ Sat, 18 Dec 2004 10:46:41 +,Î(Î) John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: Sorry, but Quanta don't own the rights to Jan Jones book. The agreement was that Quanta would be the publisher and we paid Jan Jones a royalty for each book printed. We did two print runs whilst I was treasurer and sold all of them. It would be uneconomic to do another print run and publishing electronically would be illegal. John Taylor. Why? Electronic Publishing ensures Jan Jones would even get her funds faster. If the agreement is "do a run give me royalties" what is more beneficial for everyone than making money? Illegality would exist ONLY if you printed without a. Intent to pay royalties and b. an agreement... Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Access to EXEP through assembly or C68?
Thanks guys, will look at the suggestions shortly. Wolfgang, while I have been following the printer stuff, I have not had a chance to dig into it enough or work out the Printer object in QDT far enough to say either way about PFF. I am definitely hoping that it will either work as is or can be adapted a bit - will let you know. Hopefully you are heading out for some holiday fun. If so, enjoy and happy holidays! jim On Dec 18, 2004, at 12:05 AM, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: On 17 Dec 2004 at 11:55, James Hunkins wrote: Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone has any idea how to execute a program with EXEP through C68 (preferred) or assembly? I already know about the EXEC and FORK type commands but think that they basically use EXEC for their calls? I believe that Qascade and FileInfo2 both have dealt with this question. Are either of the authors on this list? I need this ability to let the users in QDT run stuff from QPAC2 or previously LRESPR'd programs such as QD or DATAdesign. Thanks, jim Have a look at the assembler source for the PFF device. There's a source file called execth_asm. You can jus adapt that. I won't be able to do this for you before the new year, since I'll be away till then, from tonight onwards. If you have any trouble, contact me then. (BTW you haven't told me whether the PFF device would be OK for your print object). Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 11:06:01 -, John Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: > ÎÎÎ Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,Î(Î) Timothy Swenson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: > >> Since Quanta owns the rights to the book, is Quanta going to be >> doing any more publishing of the book? >> If quanta btw owns the rights, why don't you upload the damn thing to Cafepress and let them print on demand for you? I could even do the layout too ;-) (For free of course... well you COULD give me one book ;-) That way... you need one-they print one... no stock or anything else I'm not at all sure that Quanta does own the rights to the book. Here are two quotes from the front pages of my July 1989 "Quanta Reprint Limited Edition": "As of December 1987 all rights in this book reverted to Jan Jones. No portion of this book may be reproduced without her written permission." "This QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was produced in response to an overwhelming demand by our members. We would like to express our gratitude to JAN JONES for allowing us to reprint this book." John It is not that big a problem anyway - I have just been rooting amongst my second hand books and have at least 3 copies for sale !! -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
Phoebus Dokos wrote: > > ÎÎÎ Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,Î(Î) Timothy Swenson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: > > > >> Since Quanta owns the rights to the book, is Quanta going to be > >> doing any more publishing of the book? > >> > > If quanta btw owns the rights, why don't you upload the damn thing > to Cafepress and let them print on demand for you? I could even do > the layout too ;-) (For free of course... well you COULD give me one > book ;-) That way... you need one-they print one... no stock or > anything else I'm not at all sure that Quanta does own the rights to the book. Here are two quotes from the front pages of my July 1989 "Quanta Reprint Limited Edition": "As of December 1987 all rights in this book reverted to Jan Jones. No portion of this book may be reproduced without her written permission." "This QUANTA LIMITED EDITION was produced in response to an overwhelming demand by our members. We would like to express our gratitude to JAN JONES for allowing us to reprint this book." John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, Phoebus Dokos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ÎÎÎ Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:30:47 -0800,Î(Î) Timothy Swenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones - Quanta Limited Edition. Published by QUANTA ISBN: 0 07 084784 3 Since Quanta owns the rights to the book, is Quanta going to be doing any more publishing of the book? Yes I am interested too... I've been trying to find the damn thing for a long time :-) I had the original back in the day but two continents and about 20 years later don't have it anymore :-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Why didn't you say - I have a copy too, so that is at least 2 up for grabs... (me and John Gilpin) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book ?
Sorry, but Quanta don't own the rights to Jan Jones book. The agreement was that Quanta would be the publisher and we paid Jan Jones a royalty for each book printed. We did two print runs whilst I was treasurer and sold all of them. It would be uneconomic to do another print run and publishing electronically would be illegal. John Taylor. On Saturday, December 18, 2004, at 01:30 AM, Timothy Swenson wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:37:28 -, John Gilpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quanta has just one copy of QL SuperBasic - The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones - Quanta Limited Edition. Published by QUANTA ISBN: 0 07 084784 3 Since Quanta owns the rights to the book, is Quanta going to be doing any more publishing of the book? Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Access to EXEP through assembly or C68?
On 17 Dec 2004 at 11:55, James Hunkins wrote: > Hi guys, > > I was wondering if anyone has any idea how to execute a program with > EXEP through C68 (preferred) or assembly? I already know about the > EXEC and FORK type commands but think that they basically use EXEC for > their calls? > > I believe that Qascade and FileInfo2 both have dealt with this > question. Are either of the authors on this list? > > I need this ability to let the users in QDT run stuff from QPAC2 or > previously LRESPR'd programs such as QD or DATAdesign. > > Thanks, > jim Have a look at the assembler source for the PFF device. There's a source file called execth_asm. You can jus adapt that. I won't be able to do this for you before the new year, since I'll be away till then, from tonight onwards. If you have any trouble, contact me then. (BTW you haven't told me whether the PFF device would be OK for your print object). Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
