Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-24 Thread Phoebus Dokos
ÎÎÎ Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:46:32 +0100,Î(Î) wolfgang mÃhlegger  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote:

Phoebus Dokos schrieb:
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now  
on  the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be  
possible in  most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were  
already capable)
... and with a multiplayer over lan option :-)
Let's not push it... although with the current QPC that *would* be an  
option and not that difficult to implement :-)

Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-24 Thread Marcel Kilgus
John Hall wrote:
> How will 3.08 (and 3.09 if it remains QPC-only) be treated in the
> version history and change log?

The changes will be mentioned in the version history like with every
other release (as can already be seen on my page at
http://www.kilgus.net/qpc/versionssms.html), but probably not in the
file-level change log as the files that got changed are not part of
the distribution anyway.

Marcel

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[ql-users] Holiday Music For All !!

2004-12-24 Thread Paul Holmgren
http://www.inet.hr/~sazivano/Move/Farting_Santas.htm
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Re: [ql-users] QDT icons

2004-12-24 Thread James Hunkins
Another quick note for images that anyone would like to use for an icon 
in QDT.  They need to have what I call hard edges.  If you have an edge 
that goes from black to white in steps, for example, since I have not 
incorporated Marcel's alpha yet (coming later), if you put this kind of 
image onto a dark background it looks like it has a messy white/off 
white type halo - not a good thing.

If you want your image to have this kind of soft edge, then I can give 
it a solid color background.   Be sure to let me know if that is your 
preference versus transparency.

Cheers,
jim
On Dec 23, 2004, at 1:04 AM, James Hunkins wrote:
This is my last call for graphics for QDT icons before the upcoming 
release.

If anyone has a favorite program (especially their own) that they want 
a custom icon for in QDT for, you need to get it to me by Dec 31st at 
the latest (I would appreciate them before then if possible).

I can import any major format.  Ideally they should be 40 by 40 pixels 
but in many cases, I can reduce them with Photoshop from as high as 
48x48 unless there is too much tiny, critical detail.

If you want to design your own and you are using Photoshop or 
equivalent, please head to my web site to pick up the Photoshop color 
swatch with the colors that QDT uses.  You can directly download it 
at:

http://www.jdh-stech.com/QDT/Resources/QDT_Icon256.aco
For transparency, please use the last color in the swatch [named 
transparent]  (my conversion routines will swap it into transparency).

If you have any questions about icons and QDT, please contact me at 
the email address given on the website.

http://www.jdh-stech.com/
Thanks,
jim
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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:56:57 -, Dilwyn Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

Once it's settled and everyone stops arguing about it, I'll see about  
adding it to display_cde.
No comment on the code so I guess it will have to wait until the new year.
Seems straightforward enough, the only real difference is that your code  
assumes #0 if no channel is specified, display_cde insists on a channel  
parameter IIRC.

Given that there is some uncertaintly about some of the code used, what  
I might do is add it as an extra function rather than replace the  
existing one for now. The code is similar enough that once we're all  
happy it works as it should, it should be simple enough to integrate  
into display_cde.
Yes it should :-)
Rich - you asked about articles about this type of subject matter being  
made available, if you can come up with a list of what should be  
generally available or which you'd like to try to consolidate as general  
documentation material, I'll see what I have on disk here from past  
Toadies and send them to you once I've asked Marcel, Jochen, Wolfgang  
and anyone else whose articles fall into your list. Indeed, if you chaps  
are listening, would it be OK for Rich to have the material to see what  
he can come up with in terms of collating material with a view to public  
availability. Or, if you prefer, I could send what material I have to  
Rich once he tells me what he wants and he can ask you on a case by case  
basis.
I want any articules on programming in the new colour drivers or latest  
versions of smsq/e.
Lots of new commands have been added to smsq/e and the pointer environment  
since I last updated the SBASIC Reference Manual, and there are plenty of  
new traps and extended definition blocks since the QDOS and QPTR Manuals  
were written, so all of this information desparately needs to be be  
brought up to date (even if only by means of a supplement or pages on a  
central website).

Looking ahead slightly, what I may do is to purt such material relating  
to SMSQ/E and GD2 specifically onto a separate page on my website and if  
Wolfgang or Marcel (or anyone else for that matter) want to add any or  
all of it to dedicated websites or general documentation they can then  
feel free to grab whatever material they require from my website and put  
it into whatever formats suits their needs.
Yes - it might be an idea to put all the information on the QL  
documentation website - however, really it would be better to all appear  
on the official smsq/e website.  The problem is that at the moment, all of  
the information needed is spread across numerous websites, the smsq/e  
sources and copies of QL Today - there is no central source.

Besides that, to say to programmers that "the information appears in the  
sources" is not exactly helpful - I wonder how many programs would be  
written for Unix if the only source of documentation was to read through  
the thousands of lines of code.

There does not even appear to be an index to the smsq/e sources - for  
example, if I wanted to know how the trap for mt.dmode worked, I wouldn't  
even know where to begin to look in the sources.  Presumably all of the  
TRAP calls are collated, but where? The other solution would be to trace  
through the code as it is executed, but then we hit the big problem that  
QMON (both the original version and Lau's version) seems to always crash  
when tracing code in supervisor mode under smsq/e.  Does anyone know why  
(or better still a fix??)

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Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:47:14 +, Malcolm Cadman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

<>
Yes, absolutely... that's why I am going to play a nice game of QWord  
:-P  (PLLGG)
Great !  That is all settled then :-)
I wonder what game you have got planned next ... ?
It all depends on the encouragement (feedback and sales) we get for QWord  
:-)

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Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-24 Thread wolfgang mühlegger
Phoebus Dokos schrieb:
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now 
on  the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be 
possible in  most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were 
already capable)
... and with a multiplayer over lan option :-)
wolfgang
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Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-24 Thread Phoebus Dokos
ÎÎÎ Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:47:14 +,Î(Î) Malcolm Cadman  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ÎÎÏÎÏÎ/wrote:

I wonder what game you have got planned next ... ?
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now on  
the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be possible in  
most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were already capable)

Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Phoebus Dokos 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
 Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:31 +,() Malcolm Cadman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /wrote:

Yet being a member of Quanta isn't that bad :-) ... a small 
subscription a year helps to oils the wheels a bit.
Oh I understand, but the problem is that all I can see is a bit of... 
ermmm... kind of e... squabbling :-)

I always suspicious of someone who says ... never ... :-)
I am a man of conviction what can I say :-P (Now of course I am not 
going  to mention what kind of conviction it is... suspended, on parole 
etc ;-)  hehehe
I hope that you will never refuse to buy me a beer if we ever meet up 
in person ... :-) !

I would NEVER refuse a beer to anyone ;-) (okay maybe Dubya ;-)
We need to just lighten up a bit and all enjoy what we do have.
Yes, absolutely... that's why I am going to play a nice game of QWord 
:-P  (PLLGG)
Great !  That is all settled then :-)
I wonder what game you have got planned next ... ?
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Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-24 Thread John Taylor
Tim
Why it says Copyright 1989 Quanta I don't know, in fact all the 
reprints were dated 1989 as no one amended it.
The fact remains, copyright is with Jan Jones.  If Quanta had bought 
the copyright there would have been no need to make repeated payments  
to Jan Jones.
In any case I feel this argument is pointless as there are second hand 
copies available.  Rich has got three and doubtless there are many more 
that could be made available.
Quanta has one copy left and, if I remember rightly, has not sold one 
in the last five years.  How many requests have we had?

John Taylor

On Friday, December 24, 2004, at 05:55 AM, Timothy Swenson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 +, John Taylor 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John
You are wrong.
Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has.
Again, I refer my copy of the Quanta reprint sitting in my hot little 
hands, and it clearly states:

"Copyright 1989 Quanta"
This is from the "Quanta Reprint Limited Edition" of July 1989.  If 
Quanta does not own the copyright, then why did Quanta state that it 
does, in the book.

Tim Swenson
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Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-24 Thread Dave P


On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Timothy Swenson wrote:

> "Copyright 1989 Quanta"
>
> This is from the "Quanta Reprint Limited Edition" of July 1989.  If Quanta
> does not own the copyright, then why did Quanta state that it does, in the
> book.

It's a copyright on a different thing to Jan Jones' copyright. She has a
copyright of the contents. Quanta has a copyright on that specific edition
(the cover, those changes which make it a quanta publication instead of a
McGraw-Hill publication, etc.

Jan Jones doesn't need to include a copyright symbol to enjoy her
copyrights. In fact, it is right that the publisher protect her copyright,
which is probably why they are listed as the copyright holder for that
edition of the publication.

Although quanta is forbidden by contract to reveal Ms. Jones' contact
details, this doesn't stop a bright person locating and contacting her. I
am sure she would be receptive to anything that would bring her any
additional income. She probably had that clause to avoid nerdy stalkers
and a lifetime of giving free tech-support.

However, at the end of the day, it is a book of facts, and those facts are
not copyrightable, so anyone can write about those facts.

Dave


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