Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Wed, 20 Apr 2005 02:22:36 +0100 Jeremy Taffel wrote: Thoughts? Flames? I really cannot imagine that a price of 45 pounds is unaffordable. One visit to a restaurant with your family is likely to be more expensive. Buying a PC might be the major obstacle, but as you already run Linux, you have a PC anyway, don't you? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 02:22:36 +0100 Jeremy Taffel wrote: Thoughts? Flames? I really cannot imagine that a price of 45 pounds is unaffordable. One visit to a restaurant with your family is likely to be more expensive. Exactly. And what Jeremy suggested has ALREADY happened some time ago, and we were hoping to get some new/old QLers interested. At the beginning QPC2 cost DM 199,- (slightly over EUR 100) ... so where are we now? Software prices go down, less sales to a smaller audience, travelling prices on the other side permanently go up ... We could bring the price down to a quarter, or eight, bundle everything we have, and stop development, free updates, any kind of support, visiting QL shows, just sell it out ... would you like THAT? I think we had that too, reminds me of the last activity of DP. In my opinion it is not a good idea to look for maybe a few potential new customers which may be out there somewhere and forget about the impact to anybody else. Jochen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
About USB keys with emulators: Well, the Spectrum one we are doing has taken Dixons by storm, they are very excited about it. I know the Emulator DVDs and CDs are popular too in mainstream stops. So let you do a QL one with the Spectrum emulator.. Arnould ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Roy wood writes: I have no problem reading mine from QPC2. I do have a w problem with it being called WIN6. I must confess that that had not occurred to me before. I just made it up as WIN6_ and did not really pay much attention to it being named that. I have corrected this now and future users will see it called 'QDT' courtesy of your QWIRC utility. Ah thanks. That mollifies my ruffled sensibilities ;) The question really was why did users of other systems have a problem reading it as reported? Works fine on QPC2. I also have no problem reading the QDT CD's QXL.WIN file with wxqt2 rev 1.4 (whew! that last half sentence was a mouthful!). Sorry you were feeling unwell on Sunday. It didnt appear to affect your performance as an attentive and entertaining host! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 at 12:01:43, P Witte wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sorry you were feeling unwell on Sunday. It didnt appear to affect your performance as an attentive and entertaining host! It did - there was a complete lack of puns on both social evenings (8-)# He even apologised for it at a pub! They were much missed. I am sure he will make up for it on the Spanish trip. I gather Jochen also caught the bug. I must say I feel a mite sniffy and achy today, but I seem to have fought it off. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Q40 for sale, reasonable price
Hi all, Have a reduntant Q40, not used since have a Q60, price 100. buyer to collect from Hastings. John . ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:08:37 -0400, Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 02:22:36 +0100 Jeremy Taffel wrote: Thoughts? Flames? I really cannot imagine that a price of 45 pounds is unaffordable. One visit to a restaurant with your family is likely to be more expensive. Bad example if you live in the US ;-) hehe (You can feed 4 for about $20... mind you not a fancy restaurant but a lot of food nonetheless... how do you think I got to be SO Huge? :-P) Seriously though, about US$100 is not much to ask for a complete package. Buying a PC might be the major obstacle, but as you already run Linux, you have a PC anyway, don't you? Yes but why shell another $100 for Windoze? It makes more sense to run QPC2 under WineX (as it requires DirectX or maybe compile it with SDL or something ;-) so that compatibility is ensured maybe even under FreeBSD/Linux?) Regardless, the fact of the matter is that QPC2 is a great piece of software :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Am Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:20 -0400 hat Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: Yes but why shell another $100 for Windoze? Who pays for Windoze? ;-) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:40 -0400, Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:20 -0400 hat Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: Yes but why shell another $100 for Windoze? Who pays for Windoze? ;-) Good people who also pay for QL software ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Am Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:45:33 -0400 hat Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:53:40 -0400, Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:41:20 -0400 hat Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: Yes but why shell another $100 for Windoze? Who pays for Windoze? ;-) Good people who also pay for QL software ;-) And people who pay for QL software but not for Windoze, aren't good people? Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
snip Who pays for Windoze? ;-) Good people who also pay for QL software ;-) And people who pay for QL software but not for Windoze, aren't good people? Of course they are :-) (As long as they only use a QL and FreeBSD or Linux ;-) (tsk tsk tsk) (Since Windoze is the root of all evils ;-) Hehe Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Where is that on your website ? I would like to try it and to mention it in the next start here which deals with this kind of thing. Next cover disk material maybe? QXL.WIN utilities etc. On the My Freeware page, in the Software section of the Tesco.net site. This is really getting out of hand, trying to keep three sites (Tesco, TopCities and Freeola) up to date. I'll have to get round to putting the whole lot on one site soon. http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/software/freeware/freeware.html Thanks I will look at it and add it to the next article. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote: I really cannot imagine that a price of 45 pounds is unaffordable. You are trying to make me sound like Scrooge. £45 is not unaffordable, but I wasn't talking about £45,The Euro price on Marcel's website equates to £68, and who mentioned affordabilty? I was taking about justifiability. £68 is more than I am prepared to pay for a purely selfish purchase that no other member of the family gets any benefit from, and something that is not really needed. As I said, I am only a casual user. If I needed it I could, of course afford it, but I don't. Any purchase would be purely out of curiosity, and once that had been satisfied I don't know whether I'd continue using it. I should have realised that Marcel (another email) has indeed reduced the price, and that it used to cost twice the current amount, but I'm still surprised that he doesn't try to squeeze out the last bit of revenue by offering to sell old versions at even more heavily discounted rates. If you look at software prices and the psychology behind purchases, it doesn't matter what the product is, most people wouldn't think twice about paying £20 or £30 for a piece of software, but would if it costs £60 or £70. Witness, as an example, all the people willing to take the risk with dodgy oem copies of windows XP on ebay.co.uk, rather than paying the price for kosher copy. So, all I was saying is that I think that there could be a market beyond the one that seemingly (according to other emails) has reached saturation, and foolishly set myself up as a skinflint by offering myself as someone who fell into that market. Jeremy Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I'm still surprised that he doesn't try to squeeze out the last bit of revenue by offering to sell old versions at even more heavily discounted rates. The simple answer, I think, is that the advances made in recent versions of SMSQ/E and QPC2 make the older versions irrelevant. If you look at software prices and the psychology behind purchases, it doesn't matter what the product is, most people wouldn't think twice about paying £20 or £30 for a piece of software, but would if it costs £60 or £70. Witness, as an example, all the people willing to take the risk with dodgy oem copies of windows XP on ebay.co.uk, rather than paying the price for kosher copy. But that is another world. One where it does not matter to people if the software costs something, or took a lot of work or, in fact belonged to someone in the first place. If they can steal it they will. That is not how we operate in the QL community. We pay for our software because we respect the amount of work that goes into producing it and, by giving that money we encourage the authors to produce more, to develop and to innovate. None of us have to do this - we all make a loss out of it but we do it because we want to and because we are appreciated. When that stops you will be left in a barren world of thieves and vagabonds. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
