Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Newson

Engstler Karsten wrote:


Hello,

can please someone give me a hint on this:

I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:

Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)

  Pin 1: Ground
  Pin 2: Ground
  Pin 3: Red
  Pin 4: Green
  Pin 5: Blue
  Pin 6: Unused
  Pin 7: Composite Sync
  Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
  Pin 9: Vertical Sync

How do I connect the QL ?
it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.


When I've connected RGB monitors to my QL, I used RGB, GND  Comp Sync and 
they seemed to work fine.  So try:


   NameQL   Monitor
GND 2  1 or 2 (or possibly both - try to see which works!?)
SYNC4  7
GREEN   6  4
RED 7  3
BLUE8  5

Anyone want to offer any warning, or do you think it's ok to give this a go?

Robert

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2005-08-30 Thread Robert Newson

Please ignorejust changing my email address - checking done it right.

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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Al Feng
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:17:16 +0100 Robert Newson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Engstler Karsten wrote:
 
  Hello,
  
  can please someone give me a hint on this:
  
  I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:
  
  Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)
  
Pin 1: Ground
Pin 2: Ground
Pin 3: Red
Pin 4: Green
Pin 5: Blue
Pin 6: Unused
Pin 7: Composite Sync
Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
Pin 9: Vertical Sync
  
  How do I connect the QL ?
  it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.
 
 When I've connected RGB monitors to my QL, I used RGB, GND  Comp 
 Sync and 
 they seemed to work fine.  So try:
 
 NameQL   Monitor
  GND 2  1 or 2 (or possibly both - try to see which 
 works!?)
  SYNC4  7
  GREEN   6  4
  RED 7  3
  BLUE8  5
 
 Anyone want to offer any warning, or do you think it's ok to give 
 this a go?
 
 Robert

I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but to use
a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to be
inverted.  

Someone else can/will tell you how to do this -- I can tell you that it
involves a single chip + some rudimentary wiring/soldering -- the
schematic was floating around North America about 10+ years ago.

Sorry to be so non-specific.
 
 
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RE: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread davet

The monitor probably the old pre digital video output with 9pin Dtype plug.

There is the lm1881 sync separator, cheap and easy, need an inverter IC when it 
is known which, equipment  signals, are pos or neg going.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=2565doy=31m8QV=Y

Alternately it should be poss' to subtract the H from the comp with a CMOS 
4011, and use the other NANDs as inverters as needed.
http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ee100/docs/Chapter10.pdf

Both options need power picked up from one end or other.
You cant do much harm juggling the inversion after the QLis protected by the 
first Nanding.

Have fun, did it myself too many years ago for a quirky monitor.





 Message Received: Aug 28 2005, 11:15 PM
 From: Engstler Karsten 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: 
 Subject: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor
 
 Hello,
 
 can please someone give me a hint on this:
 
 I have an 1084s RGB Monitor with:
 
 Pin-Outs (1084S DB9)
 
 Pin 1: Ground
 Pin 2: Ground
 Pin 3: Red
 Pin 4: Green
 Pin 5: Blue
 Pin 6: Unused
 Pin 7: Composite Sync
 Pin 8: Horizontal Sync
 Pin 9: Vertical Sync
 
 How do I connect the QL ?
 it looks like HSYNC is missing on the QL site.
 
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Re: [ql-users] Help on RGB Monitor

2005-08-30 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Al Feng wrote:
 I'm not sure about the specific monitor you are referring to, but to use
 a standard RGB Monitor with the QL, one of the signals has to be
 inverted.

No, I'm pretty sure that was a hack to get CGA monitors working.

I think I had the monitor Karsten was referring to (it was definitely
some Commodore), but I'm not sure I have the cable anymore. But I just
took apart an RGB cable of another monitor, and there the only
connected pins are actually R, G, B, H-Sync and ground. H-Sync is
connected to the QL's Video-Sync (Pin 4). V-Sync is not connected,
even though both the QL and the monitor feature that pin. Probably
because those monitors were fixed frequency anyway (just a guess,
while I can usually vouch for everything I say about software, the
same is not necessarily true for hardware ;-)

Marcel

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