Re: [ql-users] About Lynx
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 11:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the program I have used: 110 LRESPR win1_sigext30_rext 115 LRESPR env_bin 120 SETENV TERM=qdos 130 SETENV TERMINFO=win1_Qdos_terminfo 140 SETENV LYNX_CFG=win1_Qdos_lynx_cfg 150 SETENV LYNX_CON=512x256a0x0_6_0_4 160 SETENV LYNX_FONT=win1_Qdos_pcql.font 170 EX lynx and I attach an image of the result.I do not know what it means, and cannot seem to go further. What fun anyway! Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Geneva, Switzerland e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 41227581410 All these and others you can find in my upcoming series in QLT about Internet connectivity and the QL. Among other things: *How to setup graphics viewers *How to setup email from within lynx *QL FTP *QL email I am also in the process of compiling ftp and lynx for use with soQL-PPP. I have run into problems and Jon Dent was kind enough to send me the sources and libraries of soQL to be able to do a proper job. Note for Q40 owners: soQL-PPP cannot currently dial via its terminal :-( -However you can still go online with even a regular QL (with memory expansion) if you have PC-Conqueror! (All that in the articles ;-) I am also looking at Linux/Q40 and Q60 and how to setup either a PPP or Ethernet connection (if you have ADSL or a LAN) Regarding lynx: DON'T try to pay your bills online with it :-) (It doesn't currently support ssl / https - for that you will have to wait for retawq and links) Last but not least, if anyone is itching to get a taste of the programs discussed, I have put together qxl.win files for use with uQLx, QPC2 v.3.30 and Q-emuLator (Expanded Mode). I can make these available ahead of time if anyone is anxious. The QXL.WIN files include: Working edition of lynx with (bearable) colour setup, ftp, email, HTML documentation, all extensions, a full installation of The Shell and its utilities as well as a 10 Megabyte compressed DOS hdd image for use with PC-Conqueror with Nettamer and bobcat (a chopped down edition of lynx) preinstalled as well as PPP dialers and the such (Included of course is DR-DOS 7.03) All of the above have been tested with: uQLx (FreeBSD, MacOS X, Linux/Q40 Linux, all except the win32 version) Q-emuLator QPC2 v3.30 As for the PC Conqueror setups, they have been tried on: *Vanilla QL with TrumpCard, QubIDE HDD and superHermes *Vanilla QL with Gold Card, QubIDE HDD and superHermes *SuperGold Card with Aurora, QubIDE HDD, RomDisq and superHermes *Q40 *Q60 As far as the articles are concerned, they are huge and unfortunately Jochen didn't have enough space for them in the current QLT :-( Cheers, Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fred Toussi
Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:35:55 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: This is what Fred Toussi (Text87) is doing nowadays: http://hsqldb.sourceforge.net/ his email is there on the developer's page. Nice that 'sql' has a 'ql' in it (8-)# Of course SQL is pronounced SeQueL :-) I gather Jochen is supporting this project in some way. Of course, he's making QD a front end to it :-P Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Adrian Ives' software
For fans of Adrian Ives' software (the two I know is myself and Tim Swenson ;-) ), I found his new web addy on the net after a lot (and I mean it) of searching :-) URL:http://www.adrianives.com/ql/qlsoft.html is the way to go for a Complete Shell and its utilities Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ProForma Filter
Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:07:04 +0100,() Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I was reading the archives and noticed that Rich Mellor was after a copy of my BlackHole device driver - the one which 'does nothing' as someone succinctly put it - and I was wondering if he (Rich) had managed to get hold of a copy of the source. One thing I can say about BlackHole is that it is extremely useful for debugging or for silencing output especially with c68 compiled programs (the ones with standard output ;-) ) Actually it is my belief that it should be part of the OS (as a nul device like most OSes have) On that note, could I use it in freeQDOS? (Please?) Ffibys... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Re:Black Hole (was ProForma Filter)
Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:50:22 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I was reading the archives and noticed that Rich Mellor was after a copy of my BlackHole device driver - the one which 'does nothing' as someone succinctly put it - and I was wondering if he (Rich) had managed to get hold of a copy of the source. Cheers, Norm. No I didn't actually ask for a copy of this device driver - or at least never persued it. Wasn't the source published in a certain magazine?? lol -- Rich Mellor Indeed, it's also available on a certain website of a certain editor of the said certain magazine if anyone wants to see the source of Norman's first ever device driver! Source and binary in blackhle.zip on that page. www.dilwyn.uk6.net/utils/index.html Or on disk GE61 of PD library... Or in the Zips directories on Emulators CD... In other words, Rich and Ffibys probably already have it (along with a whole host of other softwares they never knew they already had) ;-) Yes... kinda like lynx and soQL and ql-ftp etc. etc. I for one got re-hooked on The Shell... although I cannot find the source for that ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Testing testing 123 - am I working again ?
Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:21:35 +0100,() Norman Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Norman Dunbar wrote: Greetings Earthlings. I'm testing to see if I can once again receive mailings from this list. I've been off list for over a year and I'm trying again. Here's hoping Cheers, Norman. Yippee It finally works ! (I suppose it's considered 'strange' to reply to one's self ?) :o) No stranger than to write assembly tutorials ;-) hehehe Welcome back Norman Ffibys (Long story... ask Dilwyn) :-) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] network installation of QPC2
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 13:13:17 +,() [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: The one thing that I can tell you is that at least my QPC will not share a QXL.WIN file with another QPC (or uQLx - Q-emuLator for that matter). Although QPC will start normally, the second another application tries to use the QXL.WIN file, the first QPC will not have access to the QXL.WIN file until the sharing application ceases to operate. In short that means that you cannot have one shared qxl.win across the network. However, you could have one QPC copy running on the server (with sernet-udp) set as server and then client QPCs accessing that locally :-) I mean the networking facility of SMSQ/e was designed for just that. Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] network installation of QPC2
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:49:40 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: The one thing that I can tell you is that at least my QPC will not share a QXL.WIN file with another QPC (or uQLx - Q-emuLator for that matter). Although QPC will start normally, the second another application tries to use the QXL.WIN file, the first QPC will not have access to the QXL.WIN file until the sharing application ceases to operate. Do a WIN_REMV x, x being the drive number, on the PC that hosts the .WIN file (it is automatically done if QPC detects that the .WIN is on a remote server). Hmmm I did not know that WIN_REMV applied to that situation as well (Is it in the QPC manual?) In short that means that you cannot have one shared qxl.win across the network. Wrong. They can't access it at the same time (i.e. after OPEN#3,win1_boot WIN1 is blocked for the other machine until you do a CLOSE#3), but apart from that they can share it just fine. Hmm then as I recently discovered this only applies if you share the same qxl.win file between QPC and a non QPC emulator... In any case though, I thought that Dilwyn wanted to run QPC directly from the server (but locally) and all of the copies running would access the one QXL.WIN file. How would that work? Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: R: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:58:32 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 at 14:46:07, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Davide Santachiara wrote: Sorry if I am a bit late but I went a few days in Barcelona and now I am back with some three hundred message to read... Ah, I already wondered what took you so long :-) The speed increase on my Intel Centrino 1,6 Mhz notebook is impressive. Here are the figures: Now imagine how fast it'd be in a 1,6 GigaHz notebook instead of just 1,6 Mhz ;-) I have a faster 4MHz Amstrad 1640 (8-)# 1640 was 8 MHz IIRC ;-) (And it had a weird PSU too... try to turn it on and off really fast ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: R: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:35:54 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 at 10:09:25, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:58:32 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 at 14:46:07, Marcel Kilgus wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Davide Santachiara wrote: Sorry if I am a bit late but I went a few days in Barcelona and now I am back with some three hundred message to read... Ah, I already wondered what took you so long :-) The speed increase on my Intel Centrino 1,6 Mhz notebook is impressive. Here are the figures: Now imagine how fast it'd be in a 1,6 GigaHz notebook instead of just 1,6 Mhz ;-) I have a faster 4MHz Amstrad 1640 (8-)# 1640 was 8 MHz IIRC ;-) Wow - -that- fast (8-)# (And it had a weird PSU too... The PSU was built into the monitor PCB. try to turn it on and off really fast ;-) I know. Also in order to install a third-party HDD (usually a Seagate ST-251-0) you had to literally use a can opener (for the shielding inside) and chop a couple of millimetres from the faceplate. The hardest thing to do though was to install a 8087 and/or replace the EGA ROM (to put Greek characters then... no ega2.cpi back then). It was very misunderstood as a machine (everybody was making fun of it as it looked fake -compared to the metal behemoths of the time-) but it really showed the shape of things to come in PC technology. As computers stood, it (like all PCs of the time) was a piece of s however as PCs go, it was rather well made and very compatible. (Plus because it was so difficult to upgrade made me a lot of Drachmae ;-) ) This 1640 had probably been subject to -exactly- that treatment. The on-board chip based 'soft' fuse trips. Normally these would reset by themselves after a while unless the user repeatedly gave it the on/off treatment... I found it at a council tip in 1993 (along with keyboard, mouse and manual) with a post-it note saying 'not working'. I reset the soft fuse, and it has been working fine ever since. They are pretty good machines indeed Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Me it would dead in the tracks but SOME laplink cables are actually extension cables which means that they are pin-to-pin D-25 female to female so others it may not ;-) Extension cables are male - female. ... and (with all respect ( (8-)# ) your previous sentence was not English. Tony And that is indeed a correct statement :-) Everything clears up once you put some commas and punctuation symbols (and then use the whole thing in context)... Me, it would (dead in the tracks), but SOME laplink cables are actually extension cables, which means that they are pini-to-pin D-25 female to female, so others (and that would be users) it may not ;-) (Meaning stop them from using these cables) In any case, I have seen many weird things happening such as 5 1/4 disks stuffed in 3 1/2 drives, keyboards plugged in tape recorders' sockets etc... When I used to run the computer shop in Greece we would get really weird requests for cables among other things... so nothing really surprises me. Many people would try to extend, an already extended cable; hence the weird genders etc... Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: AW: [ql-users] Visit to Switzerland
Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:38:19 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 at 14:36:13, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip Geoff can bite back in subtle and not-so-subtle ways, I don't know how good Tony is at biting back! I never bite. I would disagree ;-) That poor girl at that SubWay sandwich shop, could swear you did :-) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: AW: [ql-users] Visit to Switzerland
Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:11:17 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 at 10:53:37, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:38:19 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip I never bite. I would disagree ;-) That poor girl at that SubWay sandwich shop, could swear you did :-) That was good natured banter. We both enjoyed it. You were behind me - you didn't see my smile. I was biting the subway, not her. It is dangerous -you- talking about biting. You are much better at it than me (8-)# Not any more ;-) (I am only biting air nowadays 20kilos less ) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Bounced mails for Phoebus
Wed, 9 Feb 2005 21:21:33 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus, I've been trying to send you an email to the ql DOT css AT dokos-gr DOT net address. It keeps getting bounced back with the messages 'email size too big' and 'we don't accept mails with executables attached'. One of the emails had a 66KB zip file attached (no executable in it), the others had nothing attached and were sent as plain text but still failed to get through. Am I blacklisted for trying to send the ZIP file (it was a TTF font I wanted to ask you to convert to PFB for me so I could convert to PFF like you did some time ago)? Or can you suggest a way I can get around this to send it to you? No you shouldn't be blacklisted... Send as uncompressed however if you still cannot send the zip files through. In any case use the phoebus AT dokos DASH gr DOT net address as it is without a spam blocker on it. Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:52:52 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: As a consequence asking for a LapLink cable you end up with a parallel cable which of course not only cannot work with the serial ports but can potentially damage your QL. But a moments real thought about this would lead to conclude that you cannot connect a parallel 'D' cable to a serial one because the parallel cables are male to male and the serial ones are female to female. -- Roy Wood I'm sure it wouldn't stop Phoebus trying ;-) Me it would dead in the tracks but SOME laplink cables are actually extension cables which means that they are pin-to-pin D-25 female to female so others it may not ;-) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
That is the 'laplink' wiring I was referring to. One can ignore the DTR/DSR cabling as that does not exist on the QL/Aurora. I should not have used the word 'laplink'. It is just that I have a branded laplink cable with 9D and 25D and the correct crossover wiring. I had no idea that there were laplink cable variants. The original LapLink software supported two port variants: Parallel and Serial. It also has two cable variants: The first is a 25D-25D which is a PARALLEL and the second one (what Tony has) is a null modem Serial which came in 25D-25D (and later on as 9D-25D as well as 9D-9D.) In the PC world however the world 'LapLink' routinely is identified with the Parallel Version (Also usable with the DOS licensed version of LapLink available from MS-DOS v.4.00 on to v.6.23) - BUT NOT PC-DOS. As a consequence asking for a LapLink cable you end up with a parallel cable which of course not only cannot work with the serial ports but can potentially damage your QL. Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Fri, 4 Feb 2005 09:32:40 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 at 08:44:08, Derek Stewart wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hi, I never had any problems with the Auora serial ports, the description of the connections is detailed in the manual clearly. Srnet worked fine with a standard null modem lead available from any good electronic store. So there is no need to build a special sernet cable. Of course a standard cable will not work without the adapter to 9D. This is where I think Nasta said he got it wrong and one cannot use ribbon with std IDC connectors each end. One has to solder to a 9D socket. Of course in doing this, it would be -easy- to wire ser1 as a crossover (like the QL) The way the Aurora's serial ports are (at least mine) you need a std 10 pin IDC connector at the one end and a standard DB-9 male press-down connector (for example the one that you use for Ser 4 on the sH) on the other end. It works like a charm :-) Maybe they were more than one versions of Aurora? Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:36:03 +,() [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Unfortunatley not in mine. You can run a SBASIC job across a network by: EX n1_*ram1_myjob_bas Oh, does this also work across a normal network? I thought this was peculiar to Sernet (hence s1_win1) The description is also given in the QPC2 manual. I forgot to say that it seems to be only SBASIC programs that can be run on the remote machine in this way. The n1 is an exact quote from the manual(s). In fact I have set up my SERNET so that the network letter is n. This is so that I can use my pogram NET_PEEK to access the remote computer. NET_PEEK needs the letter n. The manual indicates that this facility is confined to MIDINET and SERNET. George What machines do you connect with Sernet? I can get it to work between two PCs have never been able to get that same version working between PC and Aurora. It must be down to either serial port or cabling issues as I know that the version of Sernet I use works great between QPC2 on 2 PCs. When I last tried it on Aurora, it was with SMSQE, so the issue of SRX and STX serial ports should not be an issue. The MinisQL-Aurora was fitted with 9-pin D serial port connectors which in theory conform to equivalent 9-pin PC serial port connections unless anyone can advise me differently. Sernet has worked between everything I have. My Aurora however couldn't cope with speeds greater than 9600 and unfortunately superHermes' SER3 is not supported by Sernet (at least I've tried but no cigar :-( ) My take is that you probably tried at max speed (19200) on SER1 2 and it won't connect for the love of God there ;-) (even with sH) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:20:32 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Without opening up the MinisQL, I can't remember if the IDC headers on the Aurora board are one way, or if the cable can be placed on the wrong way round, so screwing up the wiring. Yes they can and often are. Not necessarily. Depends on the version of the Aurora that you have. All proper Auroras have directional IDC headers, however most Qubbesoft ones as documented by Nasta many times were without the IDC jacket ergo the positioning problems Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Thu, 3 Feb 2005 23:40:52 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Thu, 3 Feb 2005 20:20:32 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Without opening up the MinisQL, I can't remember if the IDC headers on the Aurora board are one way, or if the cable can be placed on the wrong way round, so screwing up the wiring. Yes they can and often are. Not necessarily. Depends on the version of the Aurora that you have. All proper Auroras have directional IDC headers, however most Qubbesoft ones as documented by Nasta many times were without the IDC jacket ergo the positioning problems Almost all the Auroras out there were made by Qubbesoft. I have a few here made by Nasta that have the correct IDC sockets but all the others did not have this. A lot of people got this wrong. Just to add to the problems they are not the usual, straight through, wiring so you cannot use one of the cables from a PC. What do you mean. There's nothing easier than making a serial port for the Aurora. It uses the standard PC wiring. See also the Aurora manual. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SERNET
Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:07:07 +0100,() wolfgang mhlegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Wolfgang Lenerz schrieb: On 2 Feb 2005 at 9:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The description of how to use Sernet to start a job on a remote machine is given in the Q60 manual (but not in my Q40 manual). Unfortunatley not in mine. You can run a SBASIC job across a network by: EX n1_*ram1_myjob_bas Oh, does this also work across a normal network? I thought this was peculiar to Sernet (hence s1_win1) Wolfgang plze specify 'normal' wolfgang Normal as in Standard QL coaxial network (used by QLs, QXL, Aurora, Thor - and Spectrums IIRC) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] smsq gold
Otherwise, you might need the guide on setting up the Aurora hardware for high colours which Phoebus put together. No I am not certain. All I am certain of is that it's SMSQ_GOLD v3.06. It probably ain't the colours version as DISP_COLOUR 2 does nothing it seems. Does DISP_COLOUR 3 work OK ? DISP_COLOUR 3 works only on 16bit colour... Aurora DOESN'T have 16bit colour :-) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:28:06 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: What does UDP stand for - obviously a Protocol ? 1) Short for User Datagram Protocol. AKA unreliable datagram protocol. Unlike TCP packets UDP data is not guaranteed to arrive at the other end, the higher up protocol must therefore cater for data loss and data re-sending (which SERNet does). Though data loss in a LAN should be near nil anyway. TCP is a connection based protocol. The two partners first establish a connection and when a station sends data it can be sure that it will arrive intact and in the right order at the other end. Exactly whereas UDP is a connectionless protocol. Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:51:30 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Roy wood wrote: Not sure I understand the point here. If you have two machines running QPC2 and connected by ethernet why not just map the drives so they have a letter and then use that letter as one of the QXL.WIN files ? I have done it like this for ages. I believe Marcel has even made it possible for two machines to access the same file although I have not tried it. No, it can't. UDPNet, on the other hand, could do this. Plus, it is a native solution and is basically cross-plattform. If Q40 had IP support, it could be used to sync QPC and Q40. OTOH the more I know about the SERNet/UDPNet code, the less I like it. It probably should be rewritten from scratch (and use TCP instead of UDP). But this is not exactly a minor task. Which is possible already if you run uQLx on the Q40 Linux, then connect via network to a QPC :-) qlwIP will support UDP so the same will be obtainable natively as well AFAIK Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Email in SBASIC
Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:48:30 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Jon, should this work equally on soql, QPC2 v3.30 and uQLx TCP/IP? Dilwyn Jones That will work on QPC 3.30, QemuLator 2.3.2 and 2.3.3 and uQLx but NOT on soql as there's no tcp device. However this is really a simplified version of the qlpop3 application which is written in C. So for all purposes that already works under soQL. (Somewhat ;-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:16:45 +,() Dear Mr. Services :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it. I don't think he is being rude at all. I assume that he's referring to my statement: Actually your statement doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via DUP/DDOWN ie you... althought that is a little hard to understand since he's quoting my BTW: line at the end. In any case I still do not understand where I was rude... but if I were I apologise anyway :-) He is imply responding to us not understanding Greek and mosspilling his name. I know he understands English better than we understand Greek. Sometimes ;-) hehe Regardless... if it were for what you mention (ie the Ffibys spelling) then I retract my apology ;-) To all who remember I adopted Dilwyn's tranliteration both as a joke and as a statement. I could always of course (to anyone that does not like Welsh) respond simply in Greek heehee I thought it was funny BTW. I think it is too... and informative :-P I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name. The best one I suppose, was a letter starting Dear Mr Services, Now THAT is funny :-) (Look also at amended head of email;-) ) Tony Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers
Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:36 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote: MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card. I therefore doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right code. I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but again this cannot understand level 2 directories -- Rich Mellor It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples. DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command. DUP and DDOWN is to navigate directories not MDVs ie if the MDV device has subdirectories it can navigate them as well. Actually your statement doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via DUP/DDOWN ie you are on MDV1 and DUP will take you to MDV2 (which is not what happens anyway). MAKE_DIR applies to whichever device has Level 2 drivers. Floppies do for example and the RomDISQ does as TT's RAM disk... (so it is not only HDDs as you wrongly assume) BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:08:50 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: You are right ... I concede :-) ... game point to Phoebus :-) When I checked myself after sending the email I realised that my memory had transposed some of the combinations :-( :-) I assume that the original QL colour system was 8-bit, yet didn't actually make use of it as such. As it had a 4 Colour Mode ( Mode 4 ) and an 8 Colour Mode ( Mode 8 ). No the original QL colour system had a maximum of 3 bits (2^3) that gives 8 colours The Thor on the other hand had an additional colour mode 12 of 4 bits (2^4) that gave 16 colours on 256 x 256 4 colours can be done with the lower half of the 8 bit - lower nibble - as : - Black 0 0001 - White 1 0010 - Colour 12 0011 - Colour 23 Indeed but that is not the case with the QL. The actual mode 4 is 2 bit which gives you 4 combinations. The bits that generate the colour are G(reen) and R(ed) - No bits on means black. All bits on is White and Red bit or Green bit on respectively give Red or Green. This may be covered in the Jan Jones book, or elsewhere, as to how it was actually assigned on the QL to accommodate the Mode 4 and Mode 8. It is in the QL Manual actually as well as in the Andrew Dickens' book, Colin Opie's as well as on the Q40/Q60 Hardware Technical Reference. The organisation of the pixels is quite odd but very efficient for the capabilities of the hardware. An 8 bit gives a maximum of 256 which was implemented in the early IBM PC's way back when ( ? ). I believe you confuse the VGA and MCGA with the earliest cards, CGA, MDA, Hercules and EGA. The original PC with Color Graphics Adapter could generate 16 colours in Text mode, 2 in High Res (640 x 200), and 4 in Medium resolution (320 x 200) as well as the seldomly used low resolution 160 x 200 (16 colours but only on TV/Video). CGA had however a palette of 16 colours that could be used to select colours in all modes but High-res that was only black and white. Which originally had 8 shades of grey. Not true either. MDA was black and white strictly. Some Hercules cards had shades of grey but it wasn't until some versions of EGA that 8 shades of grey could be produced. Although I believe that some of the other early computers around at the time of the QL - 1980's - did also achieve 256 colours or something approaching it. 256 colours wasn't impossible in the 80's. The memory needed for it was extremely expensive. Proof of that of course is the Amiga that could display up to 4096 colours simultaneously in HAM modes. How True Colour came to be 24 bit rather than the full 32 bit is another story ... that you may know about. It's 3x8 bit components = 24 :-) R (8 bit), G (8 bit), B (8 bit) = 24 bit :-) 32 bit is exactly the same although it implements one extra octet with Alpha channel (transparency) - or extra intensity in some weird cases) It is not actually weird as the basic colours are three so the logical definition would go from 24 bit to 48 bit (3 colours each of 16 bit) -or- to 96 bit (3 components of 32 bits). These are usually implemented in scanners (See their colour resolution to be convinced) That's it... off to Greece now ;-) See you all in 13 days Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:41:07 -0500,() Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: The original PC with Color Graphics Adapter could generate 16 colours in Text mode, 2 in High Res (640 x 200), and 4 in Medium resolution (320 x 200) as well as the seldomly used low resolution 160 x 200 (16 colours but only on TV/Video). CGA had however a palette of 16 colours that could be used to select colours in all modes but High-res that was only black and white. Of a remote association to the above (And to the topic as Amstrad bought Sinclair so there's the connection) the Amstrad CPC had the same chip used in the CGA and its modes were fairly similar, however there was a bigger palette of 27 colours there ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:06:58 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:30:54 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:09:23 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clip Yes, but it doesn't upset my QPC2 but it does Malcolm's weird. Don;t think having an outline outside the new screen limits causes a problem - more if an open window falls outside the limits. Anyway, I also suggested that eh now try OUTLN #0,512,256,0,0 before the DISP_COLOUR command, so we shall see if this makes any difference. Regrettably not much. The screen is better 'centred' with the 4 'echoes', yet it is still the same. That is there isn't the one window in the new colour mode. Interestingly QWord Demo achieves something very similar what I am aiming to do from the boot file. When I launch QWord Demo from a PC Windows desktop of 256 colours at 800x600. It sets a High Colour mode which looks like 640x480 from the legacy QL screen that first appears. I then play the game in the Colour Mode. When I quit it drops back to the mode and PC screen desktop that I started with. All quite painless. Hold on, you mean that you run your Windows at 256 colours? Or that the colours of your desktop are limited to 256 (can be done although it is a little akward). If you do the first, no wonder you are having problems. Your PC resolution (colour) should ALWAYS be greater than the QPC resolution if running in Windowed mode. I am surprised that QPC display is not totally blank! DirectX should normally take care of the mapping of a 256 capable graphics mode to what QPC requires but the results in colour would probably be hideous! Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e
Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:03:10 +,() Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I have been looking at putting SMSQ/E in rom. Up to v2.98p the code is romable, but after that I can get the rommed version of SMSQ/E 3.07 to load. 2y99 is rommable as well (that's what I have as a startup) The rom initialisation code looks OK, but maybe something else is affecting the rom loading routine. The major changes after 2.98p were removal of MOVEP commands and slave blocks. Which I think look correct as well. Not only these, other stuff were changed as well, however I too can confirm that versions above 3.00 (inclusive) are not rommable. It is a puzzle, which I have spent many nights programming eproms and trying to get SMSQ/E 3.07 to boot without success. The problem is in the code not the eprom burning ;-) Wolfgang is working on this Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e
Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:44:26 +,() Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Hi Rich, I have 2 Q60s that will start up with SMSQ/E configured for 1024x512 mode. Derek 2.98p configured would start on 1024 x 512... however on my Q40 2y99, 3.00 and up to 3.07 (BUT NOT 3.07) would not start if configured to 1024 x 512. It seems that this problem is now fixed. Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Malcolm wrote: Indeed. I don't disagree. I was just following the Windows convention which has High Colour as 256 colours ( i.e. 8 bit ) and True Colour as 16-bit. Actually no. Windows uses 256 colours (8bit), High Colour (16bit) (That used to be 15 bit as well in the Tseng Labs days with their quirky 15bit colour and True Colour (24bit) or 32 bit). 32 bit is sometimes also referred to as Real Colour Today (Windows XP) you also see Low (8bit), Medium (16bit) and High (32bit) -always depending on your card but that refers to the colour resolution not the amount of colours. Thus QPC2 uses that terminology in its configuration window. Actually QPC uses 3 settings: 1. QL colours 2. 256 colours 3. High Colour :-) Plus I knew when I used 'High Colour' that you would come back on it :-) I would, wouldn't I? Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:05:21 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP The reason why I stress it that we had a customer trying to tell me about high-colour while he meant 256 colours on the Aurora... very difficult to understand if the correct terminology is not used Maybe his 'firmware' is faulty That's what I thought *snickers* Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Q40 60 Screen Resolutions
Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -,() jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted the display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256 1024x512. Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the screen resolution? If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions? That's what I thought but then I contacted Peter who clarified it for me. There are a total of 4 resolutions on both Q40 and Q60. These are: 256 x 256 8 colours (Mode 8) 512 x 256 4 colours (Mode 4) 512 x 256 65535 colours (Mode 33 Low) 1024 x 512 65535 colours (Mode 33 High) The hardware is perfectly capable of displaying other resolutions, however there's no space left to implement them on the logic chips. Peter had produced another version which replaced the Mode 8 with a high res Mode 4 screen but this never circulated. But in reality, yes, the hardware is reprogrammable to show different resolutions... however the way it is, you will lose one to gain another Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Eprom Programmer
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:49:16 +0100,() Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Hi all, It seems that recent versions of SMSQ/E for the Q60 may have problems when blown into an Eprom and used from there. True indeed that is the case from 3.00 onwards Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:32:20 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I had a browse through my QL Product Information file this morning (while listening to the cricket from sunny South Africa) and reminded myself that, although both the Rebel and the Falkenberg interfaces were designed for use with the old ST506-style hard disks, the Rebel board incorporated the drive controller electronics whereas the Falkenberg board was basically a QL-to-ISA adaptor into which one plugged an 8-bit ISA disk controller card... Thanks for that. I had forgotten the extra board. Who made the Rebel drive. I never found any mention of it in QL World when I was looking. Rebel Electronics Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:27:45 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: of these offshore Channel Islands back to the mainland, Now that is funny ;-) Channel Islands are offshore but the British Isles are MainLand :-) hehehe Ffibys Seriously now it has to do with their Tax shelter status ;-) All to bring businesses in ;-) Cyprus was doing something similar but AFAIK cannot anymore -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2
Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: 200 REMark Set a High Color mode : Mode 16 is 256 Colour 210 DISP_COLOUR 2,640,480 Exactly.. .ergo NOT a high colour mode... Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] OT: Calling Jim Hunkins
Jim can you investigate this? --Attachment begins-- Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host220.ipowerweb.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 209.237.15.61 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] unknown user account Giving up on 209.237.15.61. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 14409 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2004 02:18:55 - Received: from unknown (HELO athlon) (70.17.165.176) by host220.ipowerweb.com with SMTP; 31 Dec 2004 02:18:55 - To: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Website Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:22:12 -0500 From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: dokos-gr Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Opera M2/7.54u1 (Win32, build 3918) --Attachment Ends-- -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Calling Jim Hunkins
Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:25:57 -0600 (CST),() Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, James Hunkins wrote: By the way, in case you are curious, on my website, the email addresses are shown in graphics format and the links are done through encrypted java code. Just to let you know how serious I am about trying to block my business addresses from spam robots. The archiving of this list on www.mail-archive.org seems to be the biggest originator of spam for me. I only use this email for this list, and it gets by far the most spam in variety and quantity. My bad... of course what was I thinking? In any case, no harm done since the address is dead... in any case, the mail-archive.org has given me no spam with this email address since I started using it (about a year ago more or less).. Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:50:25 +,() Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Tony Firshman wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:17:41, Bill Waugh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful traders in the past, Indeed it has. I suppose Medic was the most high profile. He (Skoglund?) spent a time in prison for his sins. There was even a very dodgy user group ( and I don't mean IQLUG). I think there were five real rogues to my knowledge, with three in the UK. That is the main advantage of the small market now - it can never attract that sort of person (8-)# fortunately I was never involved with any of that type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of upgrades, though I also want QDT and word) ... mind you it has been 7 years since you tested me out (8-)# Tony That would be SH you fitted at a workshop ( cant recall where ) All the best - Bill Which proves what a good product sH is (And I mean it :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Calling Jim Hunkins
Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:49:13 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: It is easy to forget, but of course we should obfuscate email addresses always. I regularly search for my literal address via google and contact people quoting my address. Clearly a bit late then, but I have managed to reduce literal quoting to almost zero now. I am always *very* careful but I've had one of *those* moments... guess my firmware had bugs ;-) hehehehe All seriousness aside... I've had spam on my phoebus email address which was listed on mail-archive before they stopped listing addresses... it was listed elsewhere too, however the problem started when we had that huge rush of spam while the list was still at nvg.ntnu.no. The weird thing is that I had the phoebus email deactivated for about a year and although now reactivated, it still receives the occasional spam (I'd thought they'd given up by now) :-) Amazingly it now only comes up with -my- site, but I can't find a literal mention anywhere (grep in my local system) - weird. Tony -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you still have to pay for QWord though) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Calling Jim Hunkins
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:58:00 -0500,() el Estupido [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: All seriousness aside... I Of course I meant all sillyness aside... slip of the mind... the moments continue Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QWord payment
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 23:07:04 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you still have to pay for QWord though) OK what is a Dreambox? This the free satellite thing? Nope not at least the way it was intended. Dreambox is a German Satellite Receiver that runs Linux and allows most subscription card types including Irtedo 2. However a bunch of nice guys have upgraded it in such a way that not only it becomes a nice Media Hub for the whole house, it plays games, records, runs Samba (to spite Tony ;-) ) and cracks 99% of the satellite signal codes to boot :-) The funny thing is that it will look online find the crack code and download it automagically... I hear that in many places that practice is legal for over the air signals (including satellite). Of course it is illegal for cable :-) If Bill's Sky box is over a year old he can keep it and still watch the free to air and free to view satellite channels (just hang on to your viewing card) Hehe crack the code... crack the code (IF it's legal ;-) hehehehe) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:40:52 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I imagine this is due to hardware since, for the Q60 at any rate, the master chip has an entry for display which can only take 4 different values. I suppose it is the same for the Q40. I think he is referring to the same four modes you quoted to me. Jochen said that Peter told him that the hardware would only support these four modes. I don't know why that should be. QLAY only permits windows QL file mapping with separate headers (like QemuLator but not automatically) What does this mean ? That means that you can basically do the same with what QPC's DOSx_ device does only that it is used as a WIN drive. Moreover that means that because DOS drives lose the QDOS headers, some extra information has to be added (either as extra file information on QemuLator or as a separate file on QLay/QL2K/Qlay2) So imagine a directory on the PC side named: c:\QL If you map that directory to the QL emulator (any of the aforementioned ones) as Win1_ , doing a dir win1_ while in the emulator you get a directory of all the files on c:\QL. Moreover you can execute them too (unlike QPC's DOSx_ device that only permits extensions to be loaded) uQLx, permits mapping of directories in the native filesystem to a WINx, mapping of QXL.win files to a win device as well as (if run under UN*X) mapping of raw devices (ie a Q40 partition such as /dev/hda1 if that's your SMSQ/e partition) to a Win device (so you can access both physical and logical drives) QemuLator permits mapping to both directories and QXL.WIN files (the latter only on the Expanded QL registration Finally QDOS Classic when run on an Amiga -or UAE so long as the Kickstart rom is NOT the QDOS Classic rom but a real Amiga ROM ie like running on a real Amiga- permits the attachment of REAL QubIDE drives. On the PC that has the sideeffect that you can run UAE with QDOS Classic and PHYSICALLY attach your QL hard drive on it. All of the above permit no format of the hard drive (except QDOS Classic that has the complete QubIDE rom on it) For formatting one should use wxqt2 + qxltools. I am afraid it will have to be a little more basic than this. We are trying to write something for beginners so it will have to be something easy to understand. This is the trouble. Many of our manuals are written like this and so people do not read them. What do you mean by mapping ? See above what I mean by mapping... as to the how this varies by emulator: on uQLx you either have the uqlx.rc file or use a GUI that does that for you on QLAY/QLAYW you do that by editing the qlay.rc file (as above) on QL2K/QLAY2 you do it by either editing the qlay.rc file -or- by using the MDV/WIN configuration option on the gui on Q-emuLator you click on one of the microdrive slot items and select the appropriate option Note here that Q-emuLator maps all three devices (FLP,MDV, WIN) regardless of actual type of device... so if you attach a QXL.WIN file to Slot 1 you can access it with either dir mdv1_, dir win1_ or dir flp1_ :-) How do you do it? Etc. I am trying to produce clear instructions on how to do things. Can't get any clearer than that :-P Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPac2 Colourways vs System Pallete
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:53:20 -,() hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Re Dilwyn's: ..Surprising that 'Allo 'Allo doesn't cause offence in Europe,. == Wasn't 'Allo 'Allo the one with the usual line: I will say it only once! What did she say? I said I will say it only once! (Or am I confused here?) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Resolutions
Sun, 02 Jan 2005 19:36:55 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Blimey Phoebus - From now on I shall be known as Ffibys - the artist formerly known as Phoebus ;-) this is not exactly very well put - not a guide for beginners and just the sort of thing to put people off trying these emulators. A beginner wants to know how set up a hard disk within an emaulator, cop a QL disk onto that hard drive and use it to run programs from. Pah! :-) Roy asked ;-) not the beginner. It is obvious that he will put it in a more comprehensible form ;-) I'd imagine Roy would understand what I mean :-) 1) You say you have the uqlx.rc file a) Where would a user find this b) Which line in it would the user have to amend and what would they put to map win1_ to D:\QL (or whatever it is)? 2) Where is the MDV/WIN configuration on the gui (what is a gui - beginners who have limited experience of Windows and MACs will not even know this term). Is the gui the main emulator menu which surrounds the QL screen? 3) On Q-Emulator - you need to tell people what the microdrive slot items are - maybe some diagrams are needed (I know that are the little white boxes which appear under the QL screen on Q-Emulator - but it is not actually obvious that is what these are, and even that there 8 slots available if you maximise the window. That actually is described in detail in the very good QemuLator manual (soon to be available in PDF as well) ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 03 Jan 2005 08:10:38 +0100,() Jrme Grimbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: If you really want to achieve the same look, you have a long way to go for the model. Not really ;-) There are easier ways as I demonstated to Marcel. My complete QL Manual stylesheet clone (and almost perfect- it would be perfect but unfortunately the original QL manual doesn't list the type used for everything so I did approximate... it's a good thing I have a 25000+ library of fonts btw) was actually done in under 10 minutes (Ventura and a subset of SGML is perfect for that). The stopping part: Lyx does not know of user-defined character formatting, at best you can have a Noun style, a emphasied style and the normal style. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. Making a database out of it might be simpler, but the inserted tables of the text might need to be reconsidered. Not a problem either. Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Firmware. Was:QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 09:45:29 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: ... ah and that reminds me of one major 'firmware' deficiency. The PC I/O cards send an IRQ pulse only. The on-board firmware as supplied had no way of registering these. Which on-board firmware? You mean the ROMs of the Q40? or the software on the cards? ...because they have none Peter said he could trap these, but there was no room in the firmware to add the code. Oh you mean trap it in hardware (in the Lattice chips) right? That may be right. AFAIK the Lattice chips are filled up to the neck The parallel printer therefore had to be run by software timing (TT code) only and therefore slowed down. We had to remove the relevant IRQ jumper from the I/O boards. IIRC Peter's driver (QDOS Classic but also usable under SMSQ/e) doesn't use polling anymore -but I would have to look at the code of course - I will get back to you on that :-) I don't know, but I suspect running more than one I/O card, for extra serial ports, was a similar issue. That used to be the problem with some cards. I am running 4 serials without a problem. Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 13:28:37 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I solved the installation difficulty by starting QPC2 v.3.23 without running my normal boot sequence at all. Just went straight to the Demo disk. Ran the installation from there, used the 'Easy' option to write to the boot file present ( after taking the precaution of saving a backup copy of the boot, just in case ). You actually didn't have to do this as it saves a backup copy of your bootfile big snip Personally I would like someone to add on a 3D sculptured look to the QDT windows - which are essentially flat at present. Then the 'eye candy' appeal will be even greater. For that you probably have to change the system palette a bit. Marcel has a nice set of two (or more now?) basic files that will do that for you The latest IMac interface makes yet another step forward with its use of transparency and translucency. You mean of course Aqua and OSX :-) Which you Jim will know all about :-) Wait until he shows you that mucho cool task switcher that Apple has (simple wow... I was so jealous I nearly drilled his head ;-) hehe Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:07:12 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Oh please go ahead... comment (You owe me that much after the drill thing ;-) heeheeehee) Referring to the caption compo in QL Today? We never did get any serious entries for that, sadly. Reason being of course that it was a silly picture to begin with ;-) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] You can never have it all...
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:19:06 +0100,() Michael Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Hello! First off I would like to wish you all a happy and healthy 2005. Inspired by the discussion on a good superbasic book on this mailing list I managed to get a second hand copy of Jan Jones QL SuperBASIC - the definitive handbook. In my opinion this book was written in a fairly technical style, it is an excellent and comprehensive resource for reference purposes, but definitely not a good starting point for newcomers. However it is not only technical stuff. By reading across the book I ran into an excellent example of the world famous British humor which I would like to share with you: (Chapter 14: The QL Sound) The QL has an astonishingly varied repertoire of sounds and a powerful speaker through which to play them. That sounds like usual Sinclair hooey to me :-) I guess at the time (around 1985) Jan had somewhen already seen/heared a C=64 in action? Because her statement sounds almost as ridiculous as the following (imaginary) statement: The Commodore 64 has an extremely powerful and versatile Basic interpreter that allows effective control of all its resources. That's not far from the truth. It is known that Commodore's Basic is a piece of crap BUT you can actually access all the C64's resources from it (POKE, POKE, POKE :-)) I think that mentioning it as an extremely powerful etc... BASIC Jan Jones was probably avoiding a suit for defamation by Commodore Inc :-) Pah politics! Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] not QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 15:49:23 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Can you do me a bit of a favor? Change the subject line if you want to keep talking about this other stuff? Trying to monitor for any QDT specific stuff but instead end up reading all about something else. Thanks! jim Of course you are right :-) Ffibys After our chat about the Welsh meaning and spelling of your name are you now resorting to the Welsh spelling when doing abit of finger wagging here;-) Nah... I just use for everything... a touch of Welsh is always cool I guess ;-) (At least to my Greek eyes) Ffibys -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] not QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:55:03 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Nah... I just use for everything... a touch of Welsh is always cool I guess ;-) (At least to my Greek eyes) Only the Greek could find the Welsh cool ! (no I have offended two races and it is only January 1st) I guess its the English in you :-P hehehe (Paid back in full :-) Happy new year) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:15:40 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Yes, but I won't be going quite that far with QDT. After all I am one person plus the help of a few on a fairly old OS while Apple has the latest hardware and tons of programmers :) But still -even-older software... since OS X is based on BSD (the only true Unix out there except that bastardisation from SCO) which was old even when the ZX80 was brand new Wait until he shows you that mucho cool task switcher that Apple has (simple wow... I was so jealous I nearly drilled his head ;-) hehe Actually, you did start the drill if I recall. Luckily there was nothing to leak out. Started but never started (kinda like the Clintonesque never inhaled) thing ;-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] not QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 12:26:30 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: So much for using my mail filters to sort anything with QDT in the topic :) Heey I did change it to Firmware ... of course I left the was: on it :-) ***ooopsss Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:38:16 -0500,() Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Started but never started (kinda like the Clintonesque never inhaled) thing ;-) Of course that didn't come out right even for my Greeklish :-) I meant started but never touched :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 01:44:07 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. That would be me :-) I was based to a great extent on that document (well a previous version of it to be exact) but had added variations for every platform version of SMSQ/e. I stopped it when SMSQ/e was on V.3.00 because of lack of time and relevant documentation. I can complete it if you want (and produce a separate version for QPC/Q40 etc..) Actually I'd be very interested in that. Can you send an example? Marcel Sure... two pages in PDF format as well as source (Ventura-ised text) on the way Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:29:42 -0800,() Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Another option in the SuperBasic book issue, is to write one from scratch. Wasn't there a series of articles in QL Today on beginning SuperBasic? If so, we could use that as a start (if the author is willing) and go from there. Heck, a number of people could be volunteer to write chapters and then have somebody work as editor to link it all together. Just an idea. Tim Swenson Tim, sorry to mail this here... but did you get my email? If you did, did you try and answer? My server has a spamfilter and you need to reply to the first email that the filter will send you to register yourself with the server. (Of course sometime this email gets picked up by other spamfilters!) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 19:26:57 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP If you do not use PE applications at all (speaking of my experience) the system is just fine. Problems start once you use some PE applications which don't fare too well with either extensions or the memory scheme (I would assume as I haven't been able to point my finger on it yet) I replied to some of this in the other mail but what do you mean about 'extensions' which extensions do you refer to. Yes but I just finished running an exhaustive memory test and no memory errors were found. So memory problems are out of the question. Regardless of that I removed ALL extensions that I am running and only left QMenu and QPAC2. Sysmon continues reporting fragmentation snip I seem to recall that the Q40 had limit to the size of the partitions available for SMSQ but that may have been fixed. As David McCann pointed out the limit was 256mb but I suspect this has now been addressed. Yes Nonetheless you are, of course, running this on an ISA slot controller which possibly has firmware which is not designed to handle large drives. Doubt this would fragment memory though. That is silly. You cannot use PC (x86 code) firmware on a Q40! Nonetheless all but one of my ISA controllers are dual channel ones and are supported by SMSQ/e as well as QDOS Classic and Q40 Linux. Many people use them (among others Fabrizio which bought it on his own) The last version of SMSQ/E which was 'approved' for the Q40 / Q60 by its builders was, I believe, patched to remove problems with the caches. Again, I am out of the loop with this now and the Q40 is rarely switched on so I am not sure but I ran it all day today on v 3.07 and saw no fragmentation on my sysmon. Maybe my Sysmon or QPAC2 version is what's causing the problems. I don't know if it has changed since last year. SNIP My other piece of redundant hardware is my MinisQL since that is really pretty slow in comparison to the other stuff but I thought I would drag it out and install QDT on it as a test. It installed perfectly and adapted itself to the smaller screen with no problems (thought you would like to know that Jim). Well I wouldn't call my Aurora setup redundant (or slow) for that matter myself but that's strictly a personal opinion. (However if it is redundant I'll be glad to relieve you of it ;-) -for free of course- :-P ) Would this be to go with the Aurora and SGC that you asked me to hold onto for you which you then did not reply to my email about asking if you wanted it? But I did reply to your email! Twice actually! However the above reference was a joke (unless you want indeed to give it for free :-P It is only redundant in the sense of not being used in everyday situations. Marcel found it very useful in the development of the colour Aurora Drivers and I find it useful for odd tasks like disk copying and testing software (and SMSQ/E) Mind you, if anyone wants a full MinisQL I can oblige. OF course once you have the colour drivers installed to play QWord you cannot use the Minerva can you? Once you have SMSQ/e you cannot use Minerva (except for the I2C part) but that doesn't stop you from NOT loading SMSQ/e (where QWord plays quite nicely and floppy speed is faster than with SMSQ/e) BTW the Aurora Colour driver is just a module grafted onto exactly the same core of SMSQ/E as is used in all the other versions (so Marcel recently informed me when we were discussing how to detect the different versions for the SGC - Hi and Lo Colour.). So, if the O/S is at fault so it should fragment on all systems. Not exactly. Not all SMSQ/e's are the same and AFAIK they don't all have EXACTLY the same code. What would happen then if you tried to use Cache modes commands on QPC or Gold Card? Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:46:26 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Yes but I just finished running an exhaustive memory test and no memory errors were found. So memory problems are out of the question. No I meant the problem was with the way the memory was used on the system not with the system itself. Regardless of that I removed ALL extensions that I am running and only left QMenu and QPAC2. Sysmon continues reporting fragmentation As Rich Mellor so rightly asks, What version of Sysmon is it. This has been updated. That is silly. You cannot use PC (x86 code) firmware on a Q40! Wrong. The firmware is what is on the chip that does the controlling. That firmware is, these days, often flash memory so it can be updated to support new media (as happens often in CD Writers etc.) The hardware and O/S has to interface with the onboard firmware in order to control the device. I thought you went to college to learn this stuff!! (He he) I am sorry but you are wrong. By Firmware we mean software (specific to a CPU unless someone has created JAVA bytecode firmware that I don't know about) that is put on a hardware add on for ANY number of reasons. There are kinds of firmware of course and some are completely foreign to the platform (good example is the old Turtle beach firmware that was in two parts. One was the PC code that was used as a loader for the 68000 that was on board that had a different firmware altogether (that was being downloaded) and which happened to be 68K code. What is on the CHIP COULD be firmware if the Chip was an SCC (Single Chip Computer... like the superHermes or the 8049) however that is not the case with the controller chips unless they are caching controllers which do not function on the Q40 anyway. What you probably mean is either Logic Code (as in hardware coding such as the Mach chips on the Aurora or Lattice Chips on the Qx0s) or Microcode (which isn't the case here anyway) By and large though firmware is specific to the hardware platform for which the add on is destined to. That is why modern PCI cards for example do not have anything like that but softload it onto the card so that cards can function in different systems (ie Macs and PCs) Nonetheless all but one of my ISA controllers are dual channel ones and are supported by SMSQ/e as well as QDOS Classic and Q40 Linux. Many people use them (among others Fabrizio which bought it on his own) Probably not the likely cause of the memory problem as I said. SNIP Once you have SMSQ/e you cannot use Minerva (except for the I2C part) but that doesn't stop you from NOT loading SMSQ/e (where QWord plays quite nicely and floppy speed is faster than with SMSQ/e) See my reply to Rich Mellor Actually I2C works fine (I have it here and use it as well..) the MKii part works great. They do have different modules added in to support the various hardware differences but the core code is, I have been informed, always the same. I do not think anyone has changed the Cache modes which were written by TT at Peter's behest. I think they were changed right after SMSQ/e's license was changed but I am not sure. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: AVG7
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:17:13 -,() John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Hi John, David Tubbs wrote: There's no way that AVG dumps anything into Documents and Settings... That's all I need is a flat contradiction ! Thanks so much. Has it occurred to you that the tone of the response might be influenced by the tone of the original message? Actually I didn't try for a special tone :-) However if my tone was kinda harsh I apologise :-) I have installed AVG 7 actually in more than a dozen machines and I haven't had any probs with it. That was the reason for being rather emphatic... AAAnnnyywwway since this IS off topic lets leave it at that :-) Check Grisoft forum for more prob's If the issue has been raised in the (PC software) supplier's forum, why complain here? True too although I also looked at Grisoft's website but I found no forum per se anyway... just a FAQ. From what I've read he probably had a failed installation which could lead in temporary files being left over in his Documents And Settings (but still not under the main directory) Happy New Year and... QL Forever! And to all a good night :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:40:00 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP For the most part minus some problems with older very early Qx0 machines, Qx0s are quite unproblematic and their hardware is quite well documented. So if the hardware is working properly (as it is) why should a hardware designer fix a problem that it is in software? For example it wasn't the hardware's problem that the Q60's couldn't work with SMSQ/e... it was the software that had the MOVEP instructions built in. Wrong again I am afraid. There were many problems with the hardware itself some of which were, I believe, corrected in 'stealth mode'.. Hence the 'Q40 is no longer' supported tag. Tony Firshman identified a number of problems which Peter would not acknowledge and the serial ports were a source of several problems for TT. Software was just a fraction of it. Well I do not think that this is the reason why Q40 is not longer produced. It has firstly been superceded by the Q40i which is a lot better (and this is available as a special order actually IIRC), but because it makes no sense for both to be produced where the speed vs. price difference is negligible. In other words why sell it now when you can buy a Q60 at a very similar price? Yes, but Roy, you can play QWord under Minerva - you do not need smsq/e at all :-) Why bother to use Minerva these days ? Minerva has rather nice features and the best part it works even without any expansion. Moreover it has very good documentation and it is GPLd :-) But lets not get into the same argument again :-) Let's just say I like it and I assume many others (plus it works great with uQLx and Q-emuLator and you can play all Damon Chaplin games on it -to boot ;-) which is invaluable from which everway you look at it :-P In that case get the writing right and don't just lump it all in one sentence. I am sorry but probably my English failed me again :-( I tend to write many times the way I think... and I think in Greek :-) I2C is not a part of Minerva but the Minerva board (the MKII one) to use I2C you need to load the extensions which are nice enough to work as a module under SMSQ/e too. And you need I2C for? Hmm let me see :-) Let my daughter play with Legos, do some crazy DIY stuff that I like, control plant watering systems turn lights on and off when I am gone and read the crazy Pennsylvania temperatures... (some of the things you can do... it's a hobby after all... other people drink!) Hmmm how to you actually see the version of Sysmon? Is it in the configuration options? yep I will look although mine is in German last time I looked... what is the most current version anyway? Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Firmware. Was: QDT Demo
Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:48:33 +,() Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Wrong. The firmware is what is on the chip that does the controlling. That firmware is, these days, often flash memory so it can be updated to support new media (as happens often in CD Writers etc.) The hardware and O/S has to interface with the onboard firmware in order to control the device. I thought you went to college to learn this stuff!! (He he) And of course here you contradict your own definition. Indeed what I say is just that (ie there is some sort of rom that holds software of some kind for a host cpu), not that the chips themselves (or the Q40 controller which was what started this thread) has software embedded. Single Chip Computer devices (which are of course ICs themselves)do have memory and a CPU and as such potentially they can hold firmware, however just a non-intelligent (ie no CPU) controller IC doesn't. I hope this clears it up the subject Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Internal QL expansion to 512K
Hi, I know that I have asked something similar before but here it goes again :-) What is the way of internal upgrade of a Samsung QL (the standard D serial connector one... I mention this for the board Issue only) from 128K to 512K? Wasn't it only replacement of the 4164 chips with 41256 ones or something more elaborate? Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:49:01 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Malcolm, one last thing, where did you get the more recent InfoZip copy? v5.40 is the latest Unzip - have a look at: http://thgodef.nerim.net/smsq/#ARCH You will also need to include the signal extensions with that in the installer (same as I use for QWord installer) and zip the files with the latest version of zip (v2.2 - also from same source). Which signal extensions are you referring to? Infozip in the past has always been independent of extensions that I am aware of. jim Actually yes AND no... Infounzip needs the signal extensions but will function properly (well sort of) without them :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:19:15 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Actually yes AND no... Infounzip needs the signal extensions but will function properly (well sort of) without them :-) Phoebus Phoebus, Just what is this (well sort of) behavior you are describing? Your installer is C based right? Well with the signal extensions you can verify that the commands that you fed unzip were executed properly and that the return code was 0. Otherwise you have no means to know (other than visually confirming it) that the installation/unzipping process was completed the way it was supposed to the copy of unzip that I included with the demo, I get some warning about non-qdos extensions or something but that is just a warning and hopefully will be ignored by everyone. Non QDOS extensions? Were files zipped at the QL level or at the DOS level (I mean outside QPC that I know you use) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:51:32 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 at 22:21:00, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip The other problem I have come across is that once past this hurdle, people trying to install on a system with a SuperHermes system think that they can put the boot disk in FLP1_ and forget that they need to load the keyboard drivers first... (then complain the installer will not respond to any keys). Tony - if people upgraded to a full SuperHermes instead of SuperHermes lite, is it possible to load the keyboard drivers automatically, or is the only way of doing this by adding them as a module to smsq/e (which people also forget to do when they upgrade to the latest smsq/e). Surely this could be loaded via the boot program after smsq/e is loaded. Well Rich is right... even the most experienced tend at times to forget that they have a superHermes (it works THAT well :-) Is there any reason why the smsq/e for Gold Card / SGC could not include the SuperHermes module by default. The current config option (about the ABC keyboard) could be amended to say Type of keyboard attached : ABC / SuperHermes / Unknown and then if the user configures Superhermes, run the IPCEXTs initialisation code for the smsq/e configured country (knew that post configuration routine pointer would come in handy some day). I have no problem with superHermes drivers being included as standard with such auto-installers or smsq/e. After all the hardware has not been cloned (as far as I know). If anyone does clone the hardware, then good luck to them (8-)# . I would be -very- interested to see how large it might be. As a Keyboard 90 maybe? :-D I tend to load the sH drivers everywhere as I never know when I am going to need them. Luckily they are a great piece of software and as such they never interfere with anything! I load the English sH drivers in RomDisq boot program for that very reason. I personally use the ROM1 approach although I recommend to people to download that little basic program from your website that can make a module out of them (and of every rommable code they have) and Stick it (sic) at my SMSQ/e. That grows the executable but makes for an incredibly efficient boot file (ie 10 IPCMOUSE) :-) I am pretty sure the drivers will load OK on -any- system without problem. No problems.. even on Qx0's they don't crash! No-one has complained with RomDisq. In fact I found one purchaser without sH who added this to his own boot program. I thought it was needed. Drivers are http://firshman.co.uk/fsh.htm One problem though is, of course, that there are different language drivers. You call THAT a problem? I wish SMSQ/e had half the keyboard drivers the sH solution has... btw have I sent you my greek sH driver? Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:19:06 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:36:51 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn where's my copy of QL Today - trouble is that people want a helping hand, but no longer turn to the user group for help and just moan rather than shouting for help. Unlike the world of Windows, Unix and Mac users, all the QL traders are always willing to lend a helping hand and there are several sample boot programs. My guess is (without having read the article) that QDT would have been a better solution for this user - go on Jim, persuade them to budle it with Q40/Q60. Well I am not so sure that QDT would be right if it weren't preinstalled. Moreover, I have found SMSQ/e 3.07 to be extremely unstable on the Q40 and Q60 and QDT doesn't work that well with older versions of (stabler) SMSQ/e. QDT is a very complex piece of software engineering (kudos to Jim of course) and as such is sometimes more difficult to tune than X-Windows. For a novice I am not so sure that it would be suitable at least not right away... maybe something like Launchpad... Of course I am probably talking out of my a## here as I have NOT YET (hehehe) received QLT (as a matter of fact not even the previous issue :-( *sniff*) So I may have not understood correctly Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:34:44 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: What, you talk out of your a## - no comment :) Oh please go ahead... comment (You owe me that much after the drill thing ;-) heeheeehee) Actually thanks for the Kudos but you have actually missed the point of the 'complex piece of software engineering'. The intent of QDT is to make things as simple and intuitive as possible. The installer is (hopefully) a case of this. With the easy install, the software scans and builds everything for you (assuming you have standard setups such as a single boot file, etc). Nope my point was that because SMSQ/e versions have changed so rapidly and stability esp. for Qx0 platforms (which is the case with David McCann from what I read here) is still shaky - the last rock-solid SMSQ/e version for Qx0 (both Q40 and Q60) that I have was 3.00 after that many things based on the PE (with the notable exception of QD which regardless of the state of the OS cannot be killed! proves how stable and how evolved QD is) crash and disappear without notice. This of course happens less with C68 compiled applications (such as QDT) but nonetheless it happens. I am still trying to figure out why QDT (At least the beta version I have) hangs the machine as what I thought it was (see private message that I sent a couple of days ago) wasn't the case. Things are drag and drop, context sensitive menu driven, etc., etc. I would say that at least half of the engineering has gone into the interface and usability itself. But you will see as soon as you get your hands on it (at least I hope so) :) Oh I will get it :-) You know that already don't you? I don't know about the stability of SMSQ/E on Q40 or Q60 but QDT has been installed on these systems with no problems. And on others with problems ;-) It depends on many reasons I gather and I am still investigating :-) FFibys (:-)) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:43:17 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip Trouble is that when you tell people to run an installer from the boot on the supplied disk, they put the disk into the disk drive and reset the system !! They forget about the need for a SuperHermes driver - we could supply it with the installer disk, but the problem is that what happens if the user uses a different keyboard interface?? Well AFAIK except the ABC all other keyboards in wide use with Auroras have no drivers so just loading the sH driver (a mere 5 K or so) wouldn't be a problem Maybe it should be added to smsq/e as of normal - not sure how we can put it with an auto-installer in case the user jas another keyboard interface - or is there a simple test we could put in the boot program to check if superhermes is present, in which case, load the ipcexts. No idea if it would be a problem if they use ABC Keyboard or Keyboard 90 and we just installed the ipcexts anyway... I tend to load the sH drivers everywhere as I never know when I am going to need them. Luckily they are a great piece of software and as such they never interfere with anything! See above? I've never tried it with Keyboard 90 (I've only seen one in my lifetime) and I have only seen the ABC one in ads... however if it doesn't crash with QPC, QXL, QemuLator (which is very quirky re: the keyboard), uQLx, Q40, Q60 or a standard (non sH equipped that is) QL why would it crash with a Keyboard 90 or ABC (then of course you never know) snip Yes, ok for those with a romdisq, but not every user has one... Exactly the reason why they should buy one :-) (Tony I want the cheque mailed tomorrow ;-) hehe) Would not be a problem if the necessary module was linked into the main smsq/e initialisation code at configuration time. The keyboard driver of sH doesn't interfere with the keyboard translation of SMSQ/e as I have seen More of a problem if we had to include ipcexts in the boot file for the installer and also on non smssq/e systems of course Not really as it really doesn't interfere with anything at least to my (so far) knowledge as I said. As a matter of fact all TF products that I have are the only hardware products for standard QLs that work no matter what. The sH works (although Tony said it wouldn't) minus a couple of legs (GND ones too!), the software never misses a beat (or a keystroke), the romdisq has performed flawlessly even having connected it upside down two or three times (okay more than that) which is a BIG NO NO and consider this... all my TF stuff have travelled the atlantic and have been in several places transported in not that ideal of conditions... let me put it another way. If Tony had seen what I have done to them, he would refuse to sell anything to me ever again ;-) Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:43:17 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip Trouble is that when you tell people to run an installer from the boot on the supplied disk, they put the disk into the disk drive and reset the system !! They forget about the need for a SuperHermes driver - we could supply it with the installer disk, but the problem is that what happens if the user uses a different keyboard interface?? Well AFAIK except the ABC all other keyboards in wide use with Auroras have no drivers so just loading the sH driver (a mere 5 K or so) wouldn't be a problem Maybe it should be added to smsq/e as of normal - not sure how we can put it with an auto-installer in case the user jas another keyboard interface - or is there a simple test we could put in the boot program to check if superhermes is present, in which case, load the ipcexts. No idea if it would be a problem if they use ABC Keyboard or Keyboard 90 and we just installed the ipcexts anyway... I tend to load the sH drivers everywhere as I never know when I am going to need them. Luckily they are a great piece of software and as such they never interfere with anything! See above? I've never tried it with Keyboard 90 (I've only seen one in my lifetime) and I have only seen the ABC one in ads... however if it doesn't crash with QPC, QXL, QemuLator (which is very quirky re: the keyboard), uQLx, Q40, Q60 or a standard (non sH equipped that is) QL why would it crash with a Keyboard 90 or ABC (then of course you never know) snip Yes, ok for those with a romdisq, but not every user has one... Exactly the reason why they should buy one :-) (Tony I want the cheque mailed tomorrow ;-) hehe) Would not be a problem if the necessary module was linked into the main smsq/e initialisation code at configuration time. The keyboard driver of sH doesn't interfere with the keyboard translation of SMSQ/e as I have seen More of a problem if we had to include ipcexts in the boot file for the installer and also on non smssq/e systems of course Not really as it really doesn't interfere with anything at least to my (so far) knowledge as I said. As a matter of fact all TF products that I have are the only hardware products for standard QLs that work no matter what. The sH works (although Tony said it wouldn't) minus a couple of legs (GND ones too!), the software never misses a beat (or a keystroke), the romdisq has performed flawlessly even having connected it upside down two or three times (okay more than that) which is a BIG NO NO and consider this... all my TF stuff have travelled the atlantic and have been in several places transported in not that ideal of conditions... let me put it another way. If Tony had seen what I have done to them, he would refuse to sell anything to me ever again ;-) Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:30:39 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I will, I will... is it too late to add Freetype II on it? :-D hee-hee hee (BIG Hint) You know, if everyone wants to pitch in and pay me my normal wage for the hours that I am putting into this (I have spent the last 30 days pretty much full time on this), I will be happy to entertain even more grander things than I already am :) BTW: I just thought that Malcolm's problem may be that he's not running on High-colour Just out of curiosity, will QDT work on the Aurora with SMSQ/e (with colour drivers) and what SMSQ/e does it need anyway (BTW: You didn't correct the little slip-off in your webpage that I wrote you about... QDT cannot possibly require SMSQ/e v.3.23 (you probably mean QPCII v.3.23) as such version doesn't exist yet :-) QDT requires high color - period. It is not tested, designed, or anything else to use without. That would definitely explain his blank screens. The documentation should be fairly clear. I don't recall what i said in QL Today but think that this was included. Define High colo(u)r :-) You mean that it won't work on SMSQ/e for the Aurora/SGC with 256 colo(u)rs? Many people confuse High-Colo(u)r with the minimum 256 colo(u)rs that SMSQ/e supports. Unless you have specifically tuned QDT for 16 bit cols I see no reason why it wouldn't work with SMSQ/e's Mode 16. BTW: What is the minimum spatial resolution that QDT requires? On the Aurora in 256 col. mode (Mode 16) max. spatial resolution is 512 x 480 Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:32:11 +0100,() Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Nope, his website has moved here: URL:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/ This does not necessarily mean that he has not left the scene, because the website is so old that it doesn't even recognize browsers different from Netscape 3.0 of higher ;-)) Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Maybe so, but Thierry's website entry addresses have remained the same since 1996 (which is not bad) Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Lynx282
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:09:26 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Can't get Lynx to work on recent QPC2's. Any suggestions? Here's the boot program I'm using. It's Tim Swenson's cut down Lynx installation, asd I couldn't get the JRH full version to unzip without filling up my QXL.WIN and peppering the root directory with god knows how many files. The cut down installation is not working right :-) You HAVE to use the latest Lynx. Regardless if you *really* don't want to wait for my upcoming article I will make a small distribution zip and upload it somewhere No sign of Lynx starting with this program. Even a manual EX lynx fails with no error report. Not even a brief flashing console to suggest premature end. Nothing in JOBS list. Tried in QL mode as well as several other hires and colour modes. I'm sure this used to work fine on QPC2 when I tried it many moons ago. You need to EX Lynx;'switches' to make it work anything missing that anyone knows of? I guess you need the distro :-) I will build a zip and upload it shortly Phoebus P.S. It also works on QemuLator :-) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:10:30 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) As per Greek convention our middle initial stands for our father's first name. In this case it is Phoebus Romylus Dokos (or to be more precise, Phoebus Dokos, son of Romylus :-) Phoebe, That is a female version of my name ;-) Last time I checked I was male (of course the hair... well until recently could throw some off track but me and Roy know better don't we Roy?) :-) Same problem, for some reason some seem to prefer the female version of my name too. Transpose i and y, swap i to e, you name it, even when my name is correct further up in the emails. So I deliberately mis-spell their names in replies and I get an angry email back! That's a good idea... I will start using that too (see below) I then tell them that if they are an English speaker, try to mis-spell it, if it looks wrong it's probably right! Welsh spellings always seem to 'look' wrong to English because of reversed stresses and so on (emphasis usually on opposite syllable of 2 syllable words, hence why we often mispronounce English words and sound like English gone wrong when there's no strong Welsh accent!) snip Use the Welsh version, Ffibys for variety. Or even just ask people to call you Dokos as you seem to be the only one on this list, just as I think I'm the only Jones (for once). Now that's an idea :-) I will then start to use that ;-) Using English, is the correct pronunciation Fee-bus ? Yes exactly :-) If your case is like mine, once people know the correct pronunciation they seem to have less difficulty with sppelignz. -or they could just open a Dictionary ;-) - Ffibys :-) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 18:11:10 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Imagine you been called Divad (or Vlade Divac for that matter ;-) -or other obvious anagrams ;-) Hey, Phoebus, David is rather close to Dafad or Davad in Welsh, which means sheep... Or one could play a little anagram with last names (heehee) ;-) We'd better take care of the spelling of his name in future, Ffibys! Nah! I think I beat that subject to a pulp! This is so often the case. Either the ISP won't allow access to 'kill' the site or the owner has not kept a record of the password after account expiry. Which isn't the case... I have the password but cannot get on. I will try to contact them today to see if they can kill it somehow. Sometimes the ISP will delete it if you thank them for giving you free publicity after you stop paying for the account, a bit of irony or sarcasm often works - try sorting out a cocked-up order from firms like EBuyer any other way! Now I know the '50megs' is a 'dead' account even though it's still there, I've removed it from my QLNet page. Will upload later tonight at cheap call rates, assuming Tesco.net is not having one of its all too often off days. I had sent you an email a long time ago when that happened (remember we moved everything to my dokos-gr.net site until the then host killed that in a fit of rage (I'd imagine ;-) Ffibys ;-) (Hey I like that) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 20:44:07 -,() Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus R. Dokos wrote: (BTW-what does the R stand for?) As per Greek convention our middle initial stands for our father's first name. In this case it is Phoebus Romylus Dokos (or to be more precise, Phoebus Dokos, son of Romylus :-) Hmmm. So my equivalent would be Dilwyn ap Ifor Jones (or ab Ifor as dad's name starts with a vowel) BTW, Ffibys, I didn't tell you that Bys means finger and Ffi isn't really a Welsh word but is sometimes used in parts of Wales for the English word Fee. So wave your bys and get a ffi -or as any Greek with his sense of humour intact would translate it, it could mean... give me money or I'll give you the finger ;-) hee-hee I've changed some of your website links, including removing the 50megs link. I didn't remove it originally as it still seemed to exist after a while, so I assumed you must have changed your mind. Can you check that I've got them right, as you only seem to have place holder pages there at the moment. And what's the situation with the software download database pages now - should I add a link to that? The link should go on. I have little things to clean up and proper graphics to add... finally the code works properly (it worked enough for me to get a graduating A -although I scraped the Summa Cum Laude due to a really obnoxious prof and I ended up with a Magna Cum Laude...pah!- In any case I am putting links that work in the database and plan to add a feature that would email the author if their email exists in the database (although such information won't be available to the user- if their link to their software is dead). Unfortunately, the record size is rather long and the only semi-properly organised list available is Thierry's, and that still has to be filtered and modified (ie French descriptions removed) etc. etc. I will be sending emails in a few days to software authors for permission to include themselves in the database (so you can search by Author, email the Author (via sendmail) etc.). Unfortunately, due to my provider not using InnoDB as the mySQL engine of choice, several things are missing that could add to the experience such as stored procedures, triggers and referential integrity between tables, however most of this is done using php code (which adds to the overhead of course but it's not important). My major obstacle was to be downwards compatible enough to be able to access the database using lynx so that users of uQLx, QemuLator, qlwIP, QPC2 v.3.30+ and even soQL-PPP can use it(although the latter should enter directly the IP address as I think -cause I haven't tried it yet- browsing works via lynx if IP addresses are used) Ffibys :-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:06:15 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: At 05:16 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Marcel Nice one, danke ! Noch eine Dilwyn URL ! That is partly true. That old URL is something I was working on (and it includes a Dilwyn Jones' mirror -so that is partly true-) however it was abandoned after they told us that we had to pay (and reduced the available space from 50 megs to -I-don't-remember-what-exactly-but-it-was-unsuitable. I thought that the account was closed... apparently not! That's actually good news because I have stuff uploaded there -ie a Phil Borman's Website mirror, a DiRen/QL Fraternity mirror etc that I thought were lost forever (Not very good at keeping backups are we now?) :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:56:10 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. Marcel That would be me :-) I was based to a great extent on that document (well a previous version of it to be exact) but had added variations for every platform version of SMSQ/e. I stopped it when SMSQ/e was on V.3.00 because of lack of time and relevant documentation. I can complete it if you want (and produce a separate version for QPC/Q40 etc..) This is done easily as it is properly (ie based on SGML that Ventura publisher uses... ie it has conditional codes, auto generation of index, auto sequencing etc) Moreover (and what is best) it is virtually indistinguishable from the original QL manual and it can directly replace the keywords section in one because it: a. LOOKS the same (same typefaces and sizes are used where I could find them) and b. is the same exact size! (Margins, Paper and all) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:13:33 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: At 16:56 27/12/2004 +0100, you wrote: David Tubbs wrote: http://dilwynjones.topcities.com/qldocs/qpckeywords.zip Nice one, danke ! You're welcome. By the way, is anybody who knows how to do text processing right up to the task of re-formatting that document? And with right I mean properly defined paragraph and character styles instead of manual formatting, no formatting by multiple spaces, empty lines and manual page breaks and also things like that the index should be auto-generated and not manually maintained. I was thinking on slightly different lines, either an html or spreadsheet. Facility to search and sort, easy cut+paste, rather than a pretty printable picture. For that you need Q-Index and Q-Help from Rich Mellor that has all that and then some. Phoebe, That is a female version of my name ;-) Last time I checked I was male (of course the hair... well until recently could throw some off track but me and Roy know better don't we Roy?) :-) My name has been btw abused so much that I seriously think of reverting back to the Greek-English transliterated spelling. That way I won't be Pheobus, Phoebe, Fevus or whatnot ;-) nothing seemed to work at 50meg, got the link from something like quantum ring, reached from Kit Lester via Dilwyn Tesco. Indeed it doesn't. The problem being that they started deleting stuff, disabling the links etc (until you'd pay I gather... at the time they send me an email and told me to pay or the website would get deleted) There seem so many duff links in this field - has T Godfroy left the scene ? Nope, his website has moved here: URL:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip Gothcher, hook line and sinker ! My you do go on about it ! You would do if your name was beaten down to a pulp over the years... Of course the Pheobus spelling has evolved to a Sturat and Ql-Toady but the rest are rather annoying ;-) Imagine you been called Divad (or Vlade Divac for that matter ;-) -or other obvious anagrams ;-) I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum links might be eliminated That would be good if I could actually access that damn account.. it turns out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I can do about it. I bear no responsibility of course of other QL websites :-) Nope, his website has moved here: URL:http://thgodef.nerim.net/qdos/ Tell the rest too ! Most of them already know :-) It is after all in Dilwyn's site :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Q-Word Demo
If anyone is currently trying to download Q-Word Demo from Rich's website the links will be quasi-broken until 18:00 EST (23:00 GMT) as I am uploading updated setup versions! Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:53:31 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip I tried from there several times recently, tho' now updated ! Not so in Duisburg. Well Jochen is busy as it is... be glad he does have a website :-). Given the shows, the schedule, the magazine etc it's a miracle he has time to breathe! If anything it is the website maintainers' (the OTHER websites) responsibility when you keep a community link to let people know that their links need to be updated. Any trader will update promptly if he already knows there's been a change :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Why does have to be printed ? Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ? Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR results for assembling into an HTML document ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ...because it is still copyrighted and without expressed permission by Jan Jones it would be illegal! Phoebus P.S. Fair use, dictates that you can do it for yourself, quote it or use it for educational purpose (within an academic setting) but publicising it is a big NO NO. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:29:42 -,() hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Re Tim's: One stumbling block for me was how to do the graphic drawings in Word. So, the project just came to a halt. . If the problem is simply one of WORD expertise - I've looked at Jan J and believe I could produce the necessary in that department. Be glad to help if I can. Best wishes to all, John in Wales I would have done the same but unfortunately as it seems Quanta is not interested... Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:47:14 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I wonder what game you have got planned next ... ? Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now on the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be possible in most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were already capable) Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:46:32 +0100,() wolfgang mhlegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos schrieb: Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now on the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be possible in most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were already capable) ... and with a multiplayer over lan option :-) Let's not push it... although with the current QPC that *would* be an option and not that difficult to implement :-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 12:28:31 -,() john mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: I notice that Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Friday 17 Dec 2004 20:48:19 -0500, suggested that consideration be given to a further reprint of QL SuperBASIC by Jan Jones - Sounds a good idea in principle, and I am quite willing to cause it to be investigated; but until the likely order of cost can be determined no commitment to do so can be given. There's nothing easier than that : go to CafPress: url:http://.cafepress.com/ The prices are fixed and they do even a single copy print (That's the beauty of on-demand printing in the information age) Touching briefly on how it might be reproduced - yes it could be OCR'd etc., but it is likely to be cheaper to photo-scan, and then print it using lithography For a solution as the one I proposed, the book HAS to be in electronic form. They use digital lithography (ie digital offset printers) that generate their plates via the electrophotographic method (Imagine it as an extremely expensive laser printer in principle) However, the copyright of this book rests in QUANTA, who acquired it from Jan Jones for the benefit of Quanta members. I thought that Jan Jones retained the copyright? You surely mean printing rights. Because if Quanta indeed has the copyright there's no reason why an on-demand printing scheme cannot be done. Plus it does have the benefits that once it is put out-there real financial benefit befalls CafPress, not Quanta. And as such all the problems outlined below... disappear :-) (Plus CafPress is a US company which means that the UK tax authority won't even touch it with a stick ;-) Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is to say it trades solely for the benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its earnings from sales to them. The positive answer for those who are not at present QUANTA members is to join QUANTA and pay an annual subscription of 14 which includes a free bi-monthly magazine, and the right to buy goods such as Jan's book. At the same time you are strengthening the only voice that is competent to speak for users as a whole of the QL and its derivatives May I wish all ql-users a Joyful Christmas and a Happy New Year Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] PE bug?
Hi all, is it just me or the Menu windows of the PE (not the regular windows) have a corner of darker shadow on the lower right side? If I am not seeing things that is probably because the bottom part of the shadow extends more to the right than it should (and I am saying the bottom part as it is a matter of perspective ;-) could be the top part as well ;-) Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] PE bug?
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:59:07 +0100,() Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Phoebus Dokos wrote: is it just me or the Menu windows of the PE (not the regular windows) have a corner of darker shadow on the lower right side? Yes, that can happen. Phew I thought I was blind (which is not far from the truth anyway ;-)) for a sec Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:46:19 +,() John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: John You are wrong. Quanta does not own the copyright to the Jan Jones book and never has. The agreement was that Quanta had permission to print additional copies in return for a royalty based on the number printed and not on the number sold. That's what I figured (the copyright matter) however all this doesn't change the fact that the basis of reprinting on a one-off basis from a on-demand printer is not feasible. What's even better, (and that applies not only to Jan Jones' book but in general) by using such a schem Quanta doesn't: a. Have to lose any money! b. Have to MAKE any money! (So you keep your not-for-profit status) Since as revealed Mrs. Jones doesn't want her contacts divulged, Quanta could act as an intermediary. As a matter of fact if Mrs Jones would (under the persuasive efforts (?) of Quanta was to consider a solution like that, she would get directly all royalties for each book sold and at no cost to her (time or money-wise). As I said, I am willing to convert the book to electronic form (without any alterations to the content) and provide it to Quanta which then would intermediate :-) As I said again, I can see no reason why someone wouldn't want to make money :-) I do not wish to discourage the committee from doing a further reprint but as sales would be limited you ought to show a far better understanding of what you are proposing. That's not true, because it would require NO financial COMMITMENT whatsoever from Quanta! If it is of any help, the last reprint Quanta did of the Jan Jones was photo copied and ring bound for less than 7.00, with little or no profit to Quanta as a later committee reduced the selling price. So what's the difference if for the same price you get a bound book at far better quality... and at NO COST? A far better approach would be for Quanta to reprint copies of Rich Mellors manual which includes far more and is readily available as I believe Rich, or the printer, still has the files. Rich's book is still being converted (will be done in the next few days) to a far more flexible format than Text87... BTW: Not to speak for Rich, but he could go to an outlet like Cafepress directly and bypass QUANTA altogether. IMHO since Rich Mellor is still actively involved, Quanta shouldn't be involved unless asked by Rich; however it should be involved in making obsolete material available to Qlers instead. (Just my 2 cents) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:13:31 -0500,() Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: That's what I figured (the copyright matter) however all this doesn't change the fact that the basis of reprinting on a one-off basis from a on-demand printer is not feasible. Of course here I meant : FEASIBLE ;-) (My bad) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:59 +,() John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is to say it trades solely for the benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its earnings from sales to them. Are Quanta actually allowed to sell to non-members in that case? Assuming sales to non-members are allowed, tax would presumably have to be paid. And you'd have to keep records. It wouldn't matter. A solution such as the one I propose would have someone else making the actual sale :-) snip Quanta is registered as a 'Friendly Society' and as such is exempt from VAT and Corporation Tax provided all trade is internal. Should Quanta be found to be trading with the general public then corporation tax becomes due on ALL profit. That is why no charges are made for entry to workshops. Keeping tax records is already done and an Inland Revenue return is made every year. All this is understood and has been exhausted as a subject. I agree the British Revenue code is foreign to me but how different can that be from not-for-profits everywhere (or societies or clubs or whatever they may be) If the Jan Jones book were sold through a third party, then the third party would have to hold the agreement, not Quanta. The current agreement is with Quanta for books printed and sold by Quanta. You could say, that the agreement was made with Quanta on the understanding that Quanta sold to it's members, avoiding that, whichever way you choose, would in my understanding be inadmissible. That I understand, but given that Quanta has the only means of communication with Mrs. Jones, it would be Quanta's job to pose the question... as we mere mortals cannot. There's no agreement per se with entities such as Cafepress, other than they provide the service and get a cut of the profits. Ie if Quanta would convince Mrs. Jones to agree to such an arrangement, Mrs. Jones would get all the profits, not Quanta. I understand that Quanta has survived following the rules to a T (not my cup of tea but nonetheless respectable) and potential complications out of a direct involvement of Quanta in such a setup would be problematic, however SURELY Quanta could accomodate the users by intermediating between some entity (or at least convincing Mrs Jones to go at it alone.. which as I said is not such big a hassle -ie the procedure is pretty straightforward-). Now of course QUANTA can chose not to do any of the above (which I suspect will be the end result anyway) but I don't see any gain in that for the QL community (Quanta members and not) at large by such inaction. If it were up to me, I would bend the rules a bit (as noone would be actually breaking a law there's no harm in that! - but that's just my opinion -) I am sorry if I am a wet blanket but I have felt for a long time that there is a serious lack in the perception of what Quanta is and what Quanta is not. Dilwyn made the point that Quanta membership was based on a subscription to the magazine. Nothing could be further from the truth. The subscription is for membership to Quanta, period. Having paid, YOU are Quanta. This does confer certain rights, such as a magazine and attendance at AGM's It also involves accepting some responsibilities, and this is where the members tend to be lacking. If members fail to support Quanta it starts to fall, then it is blamed, but who should you blame? Quanta is YOU. It is not just a committee. If you feel the committee is at fault, then that too is your fault, it is your committee. I am very sorry for all of that but Quanta itself is not without fault. A little while ago I mentioned in this list that I repeatedly contacted Quanta when I re-attached my self to the QL community back in 1997 to become a member, but nobody bothered to answer my letters (which I know where received because I tracked them through the Greek Post Office -as I was in Greece at the time-). In any case, if you don't want a new member ONCE, I'd rather not be your member 1000 times! It's simple as that. I am sure I am not the only case and definitely not the last. But I will NEVER apply for membership again with Quanta even if QUANTA pays me... not after that treatement regardless of reason. Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:31 +,() Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: snip Yet being a member of Quanta isn't that bad :-) ... a small subscription a year helps to oils the wheels a bit. Oh I understand, but the problem is that all I can see is a bit of... ermmm... kind of e... squabbling :-) I always suspicious of someone who says ... never ... :-) I am a man of conviction what can I say :-P (Now of course I am not going to mention what kind of conviction it is... suspended, on parole etc ;-) hehehe I hope that you will never refuse to buy me a beer if we ever meet up in person ... :-) ! I would NEVER refuse a beer to anyone ;-) (okay maybe Dubya ;-) We need to just lighten up a bit and all enjoy what we do have. Yes, absolutely... that's why I am going to play a nice game of QWord :-P (PLLGG) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited
Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:23:02 EST,() [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: In a message dated 21/12/04 13:21:16 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Apart from the fact that the command does not exist, therefore a compiled program will complain when not run on smsq/e. A program compiled by Turbo need not complain if a particular keyword is absent. The trick is to use TURBO_V which allows the keyword to be replaced by an acceptable one used as a substitute. You can also test whether the keyword is present or not without causing problems in the compiled program. Yes, Rich already does that in two or three cases... He only mentioned that to explain that a potential simple-looking solution as the one I proposed need not be necessarily simple (because the mechanics of redefinition of a working replacement for any missing command may not be simple if they are supposed to work). However in the case I am proposing, a single call of A (or more) dummy keyword would signify that the program has failed ergo the drivers do not exists period! (In which case it is a simple command ;-) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ZX fun
Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:19:29 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 at 13:37:34, John Taylor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Merry Christmas to all. have fun and try this. http://www2.b3ta.com/heyhey16k/ Yes - I found that quite a few years back. It is worth repeating though as it is so good. Tony It is indeed! Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] ZX fun
Wed, 22 Dec 2004 21:04:32 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 at 15:04:21, Phoebus Dokos wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:19:29 +,() Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 at 13:37:34, John Taylor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Merry Christmas to all. have fun and try this. http://www2.b3ta.com/heyhey16k/ Yes - I found that quite a few years back. It is worth repeating though as it is so good. Tony It is indeed! ... and I have only just noticed the misprint- 'Acorn Electorn' Tony There are a couple more in there ;-) However I really don't care after experiencing the terror of the R: Tape Loading Error :-P Phoebus -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
