Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software

2005-05-19 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 19 May 2005 23:13:11 +0100, Stuart Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi, All.
Thanks for the nice welcome message, also thanks to all who contributed  
with the interesting chatter.  I agree about the relative value of the  
DP suite - it was hard to justify the cost then, and harder now, as I  
said I'm after them for nostalgic reasons.  Sadly, the PC/Offife suite  
is so good these days it's hard to find a real need for a QL - hoping  
that won't annoy the hell out of those who cling to the machine as if it  
was new today.  I loved my QL, but the world moved on.

Dilwyn, notwithstanding the above, I'd be very grateful if you could ask  
Jochen to put an ad in QL Today.  Jochen will remember me well from many  
years ago, having sent him an Atari ST three times to get an emulator  
fitted and then (no fault of his) being repaired many times.

Rich Mellor has kindly sold (for 15) 6 out of the 10 disks (all he  
has).  So I will still be after the remaining disks.  The price seems  
very reasonable, and should act as a guide of the sort of sum I wish to  
pay.  Sorry if anyone wants to make a fortune!
If anyone has a full set, then perhaps they could let Stuart know what was  
on
disks 5, 6, 7 and 10 - I let him have some original disks as well, but do  
not know if these were the missing programs.



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Re: [ql-users] Undelete

2005-05-19 Thread Rich Mellor
There used to be a public domain utility, but think it would not work on a  
hard disk and most definitely not if you have saved to the disk since...

On Thu, 19 May 2005 23:15:25 +0100, Stuart Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi, again!
Should have used this mail list ages ago!
Does anyone know if there is a working undelete utility for:
(a) files held on floppy disks, i.e. flp1_
(b) files held within win_ devices (you know, the virtual disks, used by  
QPC2).

Part of the reason why I am after the DP collection is that I  
accidentally deleted a lot of the files within a win_ drive by picking  
the wrong tree and having thrown away the original floppies!

Hoping someone knows what I mean and can help!
Regards,
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Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....

2005-04-19 Thread Rich Mellor
Me neither - I will also have to change QWords !!
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 16:12:16 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], P Witte  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
I have no problem reading mine from QPC2.
I do have a w problem with it being called WIN6.
I must confess that that had not occurred to me before. I just made it  
up as WIN6_ and did not really pay much attention to it being named  
that. I have corrected this now and future users will see it called  
'QDT' courtesy of your QWIRC utility.

The question really was why did users of other systems have a problem  
reading it as reported? Works fine on QPC2.

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Re: [ql-users] louder

2005-03-20 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 05:25:51 -0500, Phoebus R. Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

cut
BTW: Rich I've replied to both your messages... are you getting my  
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[ql-users] QL-PC Fileserver

2005-03-17 Thread Rich Mellor
Does anyone have a copy of QL-PC Fileserver for sale??
I have a customer who wants to network a PC and original QL in order to  
transfer files.

Here we go again - cables he needs, software etc.  Surely we should offer  
a pack ??
IIRC sernet does not work on a standard QL - what other options are there  
if no-one has QL-PC Fileserver??

Now I seem to recall this was asked by me ages ago - but did we ever come  
up with a solution?

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Re: Re: [ql-users] GCC on QDOS

2005-03-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:43:35 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albin was toying with the idea of producing a version of SQL to run with
archive.
Would that be of interest?
Most definitely would be of interest - would mean that we could offer a  
much more secure form of database to the wider community I should imagine  
- ie. the database stored within a QL emulator, which could be addressed  
from a PC or unix using SQL !!

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[ql-users] Printers for the QL

2005-03-03 Thread Rich Mellor
Just a thought
There is a pallet of 28 Epson 850 printers on ebay - located in the  
Portsmouth area.  Trouble is auction ends in a few minutes - m,ight do a  
deal off ebay.

It might be an idea to buy these and test them for resale to those who are  
stuck with the original QL etc - the 850 has proved a good little printer  
for me in the past.

ANyone in Portsmouth willing to collect, stock them and test them if I buy  
them either on own or on behalf of Quanta?

Have a look:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=14303item=6747905362rd=1
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Re: [ql-users] CTRL ALT left/right

2005-03-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:39:08 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Yes, I was  referring tot he real ALT key.. On British keyboards at  
least CTRL and ALT are both on the left of the space bar. The one on the  
right of the space bar is ALT GR which can be configured in QPC2 to work  
like either CTRL or ALT.

It's rather strange because both PCs have the same QPC2 v3.30 and both  
run Windows XP (though I don't know if they are equal in terms of  
Windows updates and release versions of Windows and so on).

Really, really strange why two otherwise similar PCs cause a different  
QPC2 problem :-(
Just a thought Dilwyn - is the one that is not working set up to use a  
British keyboard layout ??

Numerous PCs I look at have it set to English US layout which stops the  
 sign working in notepad !!

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Re: [ql-users] Re:Black Hole (was ProForma Filter)

2005-02-15 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:50:22 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I was reading the archives and noticed that Rich Mellor was after a
copy  of my BlackHole device driver - the one which 'does nothing'
as someone  succinctly put it - and I was wondering if he (Rich)
had managed to get  hold of a copy of the source.
Cheers,
Norm.

No I didn't actually ask for a copy of this device driver - or at
least  never persued it.
Wasn't the source published in a certain magazine?? lol
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Indeed, it's also available on a certain website of a certain editor
of the said certain magazine if anyone wants to see the source of
Norman's first ever device driver! Source and binary in blackhle.zip
on that page.
www.dilwyn.uk6.net/utils/index.html
Or on disk GE61 of PD library...
Or in the Zips directories on Emulators CD...
In other words, Rich and Ffibys probably already have it (along with a  
whole host of other softwares they never knew they already had)   ;-)
Very True Dilwyn - we all forget our heads every now and then, or even  
what is on our own websites !!

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[ql-users] Calling Darren Branagh

2005-02-08 Thread Rich Mellor
Anyone know where Darren is at the moment - I need some info from him for
a customer
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:18:25 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
Dilwyn seems to have got this running - seems to be the best bet (lets
give Marcel a rest)
That's music in my ears. But anyway, as more people will probably have
problem settings this up, get http://www.kilgus.net/soft/lynx.zip
and start QPC with the lynx.win file as WIN1_. It will directly boot
and run LYNX. With this minimal system anybody should be able to see
how to set up ones own.
I'm afraid that's all the support I can give on this issue.
Thanks Marcel - the only thing is that the Help function does not work -  
some files missing??


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Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:33:07 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
Thanks Marcel - the only thing is that the Help function does not work -
some files missing??
Yes, the help files...
Well yes I guessed that - we need to include them in the package, or are  
these one of the sets of files which falls foul of the long filename  
problem??  DILWYN help !!


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Re: [ql-users] Old games

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:20:55 +0100, Pl Monstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Dilwyn Jones wrote:
I used to play a game called Cavern (I think) on my QL back in the
'80. Is this game available somewhere, and is it possible to play it
on one of the emulators for the PC?
Any other old games available?
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There's quite a lot of games on my website
www.dilwyn.uk6.net/games/index.html
Cavern is there. Not sure if this is the same game as you mention (I
think there was a commercial game called Cavern and a PD game called
Cavern and I can't remember which was which.
Thanks! The Cavern game on your site is the correct one! I downloaded  
QemuLator and JM ROMs, but I get an error in line 300 in the cavern_bas:  
r=ALCHP(72000): error in expression. As I remember the ALCHP command  
reserves some memory, about 72Kb in this line. It seems to not find the  
command at all. I thought ALCHP was a standard command in the old QDOS.  
Am I wrong?
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Yes you need a TK2.ROM to link in with Qemulator - that contains ALCHP
Dilwyn - is there a link to this on your website yet?
Otherwise just use RESPR instead of ALCHP.
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:17:05 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

cut
what you need is ask marcel for the udprext.zip
plus
2 computers connected with ethernet, running QPC2
(at the moment it only works with 2)
Not sure I understand the point here.  If you have two machines running  
QPC2 and connected by ethernet why not just map the drives so they have  
a letter and then use that letter as one of the QXL.WIN files ? I have  
done it like this for ages. I believe Marcel has even made it possible  
for two machines to access the same file although I have not tried it.
Maybe if you want to write a game that can be run on the two QPC2's and  
would play against each other - like DiRen did with their ship game -  
can't remember the name and never got to play it alas...

Hmm - maybe Robin should re-release that game, so we can start playing it  
against each other over the internet !!

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Re: [ql-users] Old games

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:06:35 -0800, Daniele Terdina  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Probably the best emulator to use to play these sort of games is  
Qemulator
- certainly seems to be more able to cope (unless they use copy  
protection
of course).
In fact, Q-emuLator can run most copy-protected QL games (for example,  
the
unpatched Psion Chess 1.0). But you need to own the original microdrive,
have a QL capable of reading it, and a way of moving files between the  
QL to
the PC (this usually means a QL with a floppy disk interface). Q-emuLator
includes a utility to copy the copy-protected files from microdrive to
another location while preserving the copy protection information.

That is interesting but how do you get the copy protection from the  
microdrive onto the QL floppy disk?  It is normally a hidden sector on the  
microdrive, or specific number in the microdrive header

Would be interesting to know if we could get QL Pawn onto Qemulator - but  
that loads specific sectors from the microdrive cartridge (not files per  
se).


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Re: [ql-users] Old games

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:33:20 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Use RESPR instead of ALCHP for now, until I know if it's OK to send you  
a TK2. I think QemuLator and QPC2 can load a Toolkit 2 ROM image,  
although I can't remember the commands needed from memory.

Silly QPC2 does not need Toolkit II as it is part of smsq/e
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Re: [ql-users] smsq gold

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:13:27 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I seem to have got myself into a bit of a muddle. First, I manage to  
destroy a QL+RomDisq with a corrupt copy of smsq_gold 3.06 (revived with  
romd214_exe) and now I can't get 256 colour mode to work on the Aurora.
 Is the same smsq-gold v3.06 used for 256 colour on Aurora or is there a  
separate version for Aurora? DISP_TYPE will change resolution on the  
Aurora/SGC (a MinisQL) but DISP_COLOUR 2 is ignored and configuring it  
to start in 256 colour mode seems to make it lock up at a black screen.
 If a separate version is needed, fine, just thought that as both  
machines had Gold Card and SuperGold Card I thought I'd try the Gold  
Card version which seems to run as long as the Aurora stays in QL colour  
modes.
 Not having the best of days today, the PC is behaving and the QLs  
ain't. Somewhat unuusal in this household.

Now now - SMSQ_Gold colour version is the right one for Aurora - but are  
you sure you have the colour version of SMSQ/e Dilwyn - here we go back to  
the moans that there is no way of telling one from the other...

Otherwise, you might need the guide on setting up the Aurora hardware for  
high colours which Phoebus put together.

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Re: [ql-users] smsq gold

2005-01-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:15:15 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

cut
No I am not certain. All I am certain of is that it's SMSQ_GOLD v3.06.  
It probably ain't the colours version as DISP_COLOUR 2 does nothing it  
seems.

I don't use the QL and MiniSQL Aurora that much, so have probably not  
installed the right versions.

Only way of telling for sure is the file length - maybe Roy can remind us  
all of the file length for the two versions...

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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:01:19 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Rich
I have QLynx in WIN1_ but executing it does not get me anywhere. I have  
UQLX-010601.tbz
in DOS1_ but it will not transfer to WIN1_
Can you guide me?
Thanks,
Unfortunately no - I have not tried QPC v3.30 as yet
Dilwyn seems to have got this running - seems to be the best bet (lets  
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
All this was discussed in December by Dilwyn et al - have a look at:
http://lists.q-v-d.com/private.cgi/ql-users-q-v-d.com/2004-December/003656.html
Did you download the cut down version of Lynx from Dilwyn's website or are  
you trying to use the original??

Rich
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:35:57 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Wolfgang
Thanks for the Lynx boot program which I managed to copy and run. But the
ex_lynx line makes a window for a second then closes. I am not wise  
enough
on how to do better.

Thanks anyway,
Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Geneva, Switzerland
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tel. 41227581410
-- Message original --
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 10:58:17 +0100
From: Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:01:19 +0100 hat [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
geschrieben:

I have QLynx in WIN1_ but executing it does not get me anywhere.
Hi Ian,
I got some files of a friend of mine and a Lynx_boot, where there are
the
following lines:
110 LRESPR win1_sigext30_rext
120 SETENV TERM=qdos
130 SETENV TERMINFO=win1_Qdos_terminfo
140 SETENV LYNX_CFG=win1_Qdos_lynx_cfg
150 SETENV LYNX_CON=512x256a0x0_6_0_4
160 SETENV LYNX_FONT=win1_Qdos_pcql.font
after running this (the paths must be adjusted, probably), the simple
command
ex win1_lynx;http://www.your homesite.html
in #0 will start Lynx straightaway.
At least here it does ;))
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Re: [ql-users] The Sinclair QL in 2005

2005-01-29 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:56:25 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

QDT is now ready to be shipped !
Well, considering we are still in January, 2005 has already been full of  
exciting news for QL owners.

- QPC new version - faster and supporting internet access
- SBASIC / SuperBASIC Reference Manual available again
- QDT released
- QWord released (ok just before Christmas)
- PFF Filter released
I know of a couple more projects nearing release which are just as  
exciting...

This could be one of the most productive years for the QL in a long time -  
let us hope we keep up the momentum and encourage some users back into the  
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Re: [ql-users] SMSQE 3.09

2005-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:48:43 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
SMSQE 3.09 is now on its way to the resellers.
You may get it from them any time soon now.
The sources will be put up at the website as soon as possible.
have fun all!
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Re: [ql-users] Old games

2005-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:58:46 +0100, Pl Monstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I used to play a game called Cavern (I think) on my QL back in the '80.  
Is this game available somewhere, and is it possible to play it on one  
of the emulators for the PC?

Any other old games available?
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Quite a few old games are available from my website :
http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/games.html
and
http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk/updates.html
Probably the best emulator to use to play these sort of games is Qemulator  
- certainly seems to be more able to cope (unless they use copy protection  
of course).  However, not that many have been put into the public domain -  
have a look on Dilwyn's site for downloads:

http://www.dilwyn.uk6.net/index.html
As for running them on a Minerva ROM Tony, did you ever try them with  
Minerva in dual screen mode - most games will work in that mode rather  
than single screen mode on Minerva, for some reason

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Re: [ql-users] PCP (was: Proforma Filter)

2005-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:26:27 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,
Even though the subject seems not be of any interest to anyone any more,  
I've
put up a new version of the PCP (former proforma filter) on my website.

this sould be fully functional, except for
 -  the Epson ESP P2 filter may have some errors - please try it and  
tell me.
 - the Repeat option is not implemented (does anybody really want it?).

Well it is still of interest to me - should be of interest to anyone with  
a QL really.

I guess the main problem is that no-one has yet tested this system with a  
modern Epson to see if Prowess actually prints anything and therefore gets  
around the original problem.

Hmm - wonder if I should buy a cheap Epson to just test the code !!
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 v3.30

2005-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:26:56 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

After months of development and beta testing I'm proud to announce
that QPC2 version 3.30 officially went live. As usual the update is
free for all users of QPC2 version 3. Get it from
http://www.kilgus.net/qpc/
Main changes are a much faster emulation core and uQLx compatible
TCP/IP functionality. Furthermore there are some bug fixes and smaller
enhancements. It comes complete with SMSQ/E v3.09.
Thanks Marcel - guess the biggest comment which is missing from this  
announcement is the fact that the full IP support means that QPC2 can at  
last access the internet directly - just a shame Lynx is the only internet  
browser we have.

Q40 / Q60 should not be far behind (but under QDOS Classic)
I think that Qemulator already supports IP access, and can run Lynx - any  
others?
uQLx (I have no experience of this).

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[ql-users] SBASIC / SuperBASIC Reference Manual - Available in PDF Format

2005-01-28 Thread Rich Mellor
ANNOUNCEMENT

At long last and thanks to a special filter developed by Marcel, I have  
been able to convert the whole of the SBASIC/SuperBASIC Reference Manual  
to Adobe Acrobat format.

This means that it is now available to buy on CD at a cost of 20.
The support programs and files will still be provided on floppy disk  
together with the CD.

If anyone has a paper copy and would like to get the CD copy instead, then  
there could be a market for second hand copies of the original printed  
version, amongst those who do not have a PC to read the CD-ROM.

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Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:44:27 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Dilwyn Jones writes:
 Tony Tebby wrote:
 Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet.

 Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look
 then?


 No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are
 starting  to get contributions from beyond the grave...

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Tony
not to discuss the future disposal of his property but rather to rejoice  
in
the good things we have had.


All this still does not answer the original question - Tony, we would love  
to be able to sell your dynamic ram disk driver for use on QDOS Classic  
and emulators if you want to keep it commercial and not public domain that  
is.

It is not currently available, except as part of QPAC 2.
Could you contact me privately to discuss releasing just the ram disk  
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[ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-26 Thread Rich Mellor
Just had a look at this om Qemulator which does support level 2 drivers.
The Toolkit 2 file supplied on the emulators CD has to be loaded in with  
LRESPR - it is probably the last version which QJump released in this form  
as it lacks the TK2_EXT command.
No idea where the version number is stored in this file to check on the  
version.

However, it does not support Level 2 drivers - DIR does not show which  
files are directories, nor does it contain the MAKE_DIR command (for  
example), although it does contain the DDOWN and DUP which were always  
specified in the Toolkit 2 documentation.

MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first  
appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card.  I therefore  
doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right  
code.

I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but  
again this cannot understand level 2 directories

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

2005-01-25 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:10:17 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source  
code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended  
colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public  
Domain.

I left the QL back in 1994 I think. It's a shame I have no backups of  
the old stuff, because I still have an Atari TT with the SMSQE-card,  
but no software. The TT was given away in 95 I think, but I was offered  
it back last year. I have not even turned in on yet.

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I have tried Marcel's version on my QPC2 and it works fine here except for  
an error when I try to do a directory on my WIN1_ with the full tree when  
I get a string not numeric.  Hmmm shame the sources are not available.

My guess Marcel is that you have another toolkit loaded which redefines  
SORT.

Maybe you should try loading the extensions_cde AFTER you have loaded all  
your boot files.
The various keywords used by the program are quite clear towards the end,  
so that might help you spot a conflict on your system.

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

2005-01-25 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:42:54 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
My guess Marcel is that you have another toolkit loaded which
redefines SORT.
Of course I did try it with a clean system, too.
Maybe you should try loading the extensions_cde AFTER you have
loaded all your boot files.
I even did it with no boot file at all.
How weird - hope you remembered to use the latest menu_rext :-)
Wonder if it might be a change to the latest QPC2 - if you want to send me  
the latest QPC2 beta, I will have a look on my system :-)

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[ql-users] Chas Dillon

2005-01-25 Thread Rich Mellor
Does anyone have a current email address for Chas Dillon by any chance??
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Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-25 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:26:15 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tony Tebby wrote:
Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet.
Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look
then?
No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are starting  
to get contributions from beyond the grave...

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

2005-01-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:33:04 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Pl Monstad wrote:
I must say I'm impressed!
Thanks. Fortunately you did use EasyMenu, which made things fairly
easy.
I have not seen DM5 for 8-10 years now, and it looks much better
than I can remember. I don't think I have a working version around.
Is it possible to mail me DM5? I'd like to try it in the QPC demo.
I'll send you a version of my WMAN demo disc (that I've been working
on for years but never find the time to finish) with it included, so
it's ready to run. It comes with 2 different colour schemes, too.
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
Wonder if that is more to do with the version of the runtimes being  
used Would be helpful to know which error is reported...

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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

2005-01-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:54:49 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
BTW, I do always get a QLib error when starting DM5, but it seems like
it can be ignored.
Wonder if that is more to do with the version of the runtimes being
used Would be helpful to know which error is reported...
Q_ERR_ON
illegal parameter
Now that is a nasty one - unless, it relates to a keyword which is  
missing.  After all, Q_ERR_ON only expects one type of parameter - a list  
(?) of procedures and functions which should be monitored for error  
returns.  Now, all the keywords for QLib appear towards the end IIRC, so  
might be worth casting an eye over the list - if you want to email me a  
copy of DM5 (send it to the AOL address) I will have a look and see if I  
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Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5

2005-01-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:04:15 +0100, Pl Monstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Dear friends,
I found this mail list and I guess there are still some QL users out  
there. I wrote the program Disk Mate many years ago. Are there still  
anyone using Disk Mate?

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It is indeed very nice to hear from any of the QL software writers who  
have been out of the scene for a while.

There have been quite a lot of developments to the original QL over the  
years, so you might have a lot of background reading to catch up if you  
are interested.

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Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-22 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:52:22 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Sat, 22 Jan 2005 at 18:52:28, Roy wood wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Hall  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
Rubbish :-)
All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII...
But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the  
level two drivers and the normal ones then? This was a long time ago  
but I thought that the differences were mainly the sub-directories
I think you misunderstand him.
The -command- is there, but is the actual code to create the directories  
actually part of the TK2 ROM section of the O/S.

It might well be, but what you did doesn't -prove- it.
It might rely on specific hardware/firmware.
That actually is an issue. It seems very possible that the TK2 code in  
an interface is hardware specific.

I hope TT looks in during this thread (or Nasta) (8-)#
Tony

Just to add a further spanner to the works - weren't the level 2 drivers  
originally supplied as a replacement chip for the Trump Card - IIRC that  
was there first appearance - and they were by Jurgen Flakenberg, not TT  
(or have I got this mixed up with something else).

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Re: [ql-users] A bit of a drag

2005-01-21 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:49:14 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears under SMSQE v3.07 and probably under v3.04 too
Official versions or self-compiled?
A screenshot of the phonemena might help to understand what George is  
referring to...

I think it is self-compiled by George.
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Re: [ql-users] Pointer Environment and TK II

2005-01-20 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:47:22 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission  
to release the three Pointer Environment extensions HOT_REXT, PTR_GEN  
and WMAN as freeware. They will now be freely distributable. Copyright  
will remain with Tony Tebby  I have some documentation with explanation  
the Keywords etc. which should be bundled with them. I will zip the  
whole thing and make it available to Dilwyn for inclusion on his  
website..

We have also got Tony's agreement to do the same for Toolkit II. At the  
moment I do not have a copy of this which can be LRESPR'd or a text file
to accompany it but I hope to have both soon.
OK

This means that these files can now be included with emulators free of
charge
It should be noted that the Menu Extensions remain commercial as they
are still being supported and developed by Jochen Merz Software. Anyone
wishing to distribute these with their software should contact him for a
licence
I hope you will all agree this is good news.
Excellent news - now all we need is for Tony to decide what to do with his  
RAM disk driver - especially as his version is the only one which is not a  
fixed RAM disk.

Even if this were only available commercially, that would do.
Think originally QJump sold it packaged with a print spooler...
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[ql-users] Quanta 2005

2005-01-16 Thread Rich Mellor
Just a quick comment - one of the reasons that the Quanta committee seemed  
to want the QL 2005 meeting down south was because they thought that  
Manchester was not capable of holding such a prestigious event.

Well its now apparently good enough for the Labour Party Conference as  
they are moving there...
So why not the QL??

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Re: [ql-users] QLib maintained

2005-01-14 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:49:48 +, Jeremy Taffel  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Roy wood wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Adrian Soundy
8 Newcroft Close
HILLINGDON
Middx
UB8 3RJ
.. but I expect he has moved.
BTW you said precisely the same thing (incl forgetting Adrian's name)
here on March 18th last (8-)#
Correct. I did write but got no reply. I will try again. Ian doubted  
the sources still existed when we last spoke.
There are 89 Soundys in the 2003 electoral register, but no Adrian.   
There are even some in Hillingdon  (relatives perhaps) but not Newcroft  
Close.  Lots of Andrew Soundys. Are you sure his first name is Adrian,  
because if so, it looks like he no longer lives in the UK

Tut tut...
Just looked up Adrian Soundy on google - you get :
On  Thu, 18 Mar 2004 at 22:45:55, Roy wood wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Qliberator was another story but Ian Stewart, who was my only contact, had  
only a small part in writing it. The other author, whose name escapes me,
Adrian Soundy
had long since disappeared and the sources were not available. I have now  
no contact for Ian so when the last few copies I have are exhausted I  
cannot sell it. I have not sold a copy for some time so I am not too  
worried but I would have liked to get it updated.

Bithing else promising though
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Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard

2005-01-14 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:22:31 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have managed to configure smsqe.bin by using Cueshell so I can choose  
the
language. I have also tried out Code du Pays in the Configuration window
of QPC starting window. But I have not solved my problem.
Ian,
I presume that you reset QPC2 after altering the configuration of  
smsqe.bin and the smsqe.bin you configured was on the PC not within the QL  
hard disk :-)

Otherwise, can you please recap.  I presume you are using a French  
keyboard and your Windows is set up for French. So you now need QPC2 to be  
set up for a french keyboard??

If you have an English keyboard but are using a French setup of Windows,  
this might explain some of the problem.


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Re: [ql-users] I'm home, dear.

2005-01-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:14:30 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It will be set up as a thing (since I don't think we have found any  
other
satisfactory solution for compiled Basic).
For each job, the thing should contain:
the complete filename
the dir whence it came from (home dir)
the current dir which will initially be the home dir

facilities should exist to
set the complete filename. This will also set the home dir and current
dir.
get the filename, home dir and current dir.
set the current dir (either directly or by ddup, ddown?)
get the length of the file/dir names (this would only be of interest
 if *somebody* actually gets around to implementing some form of
long file names).
set a default filename for a job with a certain name

Wolfgang - my interest has started to be inspired :-)
This scheme sounds a very good idea.
We need to agree which commands will set up the current filename.
Suggest: EX,EXEC,EW,EXEC_W,LOAD,LRUN,HOT_LOAD,HOT_RES,HOT_RES1
Turbo: EXECUTE,EXECUTE_A,EXECUTE_W
I do think however, that the easiest way for programs to access these  
would be through:

a) new commands to set and read the values
b) a new device(s) to read the home and current directory, so that you can  
use OPEN home_config
   suggest these are
	home_
	my_

I think that the device is necessary to ensure that these new facilities  
could be used within existing programs if you want.

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Re: [ql-users] QPC Keyboard

2005-01-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:15:40 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terrific. What ignorance on my part. I tried as you said but that does  
nothing.
Maybe because of Windows XP?
Nope works here - you might not be holding down the shift key long enough.
You might need to left click the QPC2 icon first and then hold down shift  
key whilst you double click the icon.
Otherwise, Windows might try to do the double click on more than one icon.

Otherwise, you can use MenuConfig on the smsq.e bin file.
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Re: [ql-users] BMP files etc

2005-01-13 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:18:49 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Dilwyn, with all the stuff that you are providing on your www site  
maybe
you should also consider an FTP repository. In that way all the files
available are readily accessible for download.

FTP came before HTTP and was designed for file access.  Although the
latter seems now to be more popular as users are more used to accessing
from a web site.

I've never set up an FTP site and would need help and advice to get it  
going, but it's something I'd consider. I've been very lucky with the  
Freeola UK6 site, it's reliable, has masses of free space and the only  
real restriction they place on you is that everything must be  
visible, i.e. pages anyone can read or files anyone can download, you  
mustn't use it as a private file store. I guess they make their money  
from users dialling up.

Can you point me a source of information on getting and setting up an  
FTP site?
At present I haven't set up one either. Probably when Phoebus gets back  
on the list he will have the know how and information.

I have two net accounts, one with Demon and one with AOL.
The Demon account has everything, I just haven't investigated it for FTP.
The AOL account gives an easy to use access to storing files via FTP as  
a part of the package.

Perhaps Rich will know more about this too, as he may have a fuller AOL  
account than mine.
I don't think that AOL provides a free FTP upload and download area for  
non-members.
I don't use their service anymore except for internet access and some  
email - their servers (in common with most free space providers) were too  
unreliable and too slow.

I have plenty of space for FTP files on my servers but the problem is how  
do you provide a simple way of navigating to the right file and finding it?

You would have to look at the help file for your webspace provider in  
order to find out how to enable anonymous FTP - I can do this on my  
rwapservices.co.uk server through the control panel for the website.   
Anyone can then connect to my server using a username of  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and their email address as the password.

It is not difficult to do on a paid web server.
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Re: [ql-users] I'm home, dear.

2005-01-12 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 07:03:39 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11 Jan 2005 at 22:19, Rich Mellor wrote:
(...)
1) Older programs which would expect (a6,a5) to point to the command
string at the top of the data area.  If we were to adopt this scheme,  
then
a lot of existing programs would immediately not be able to get at any
parameters passed to them.  We do not have the software authors or  
sources
to enable us to amend existing programs or re-write them.  I guess we
could overcome this by amending the setup job code to have (A5,A0) (?)
point to the location of the home directory
No. Let a6,a5 point to where it usually points, i.e. the command string.  
Finding
the home dir after the command string (for a prog aware of this) is  
trivial.
I agree that (a6,a5) MUST point to the command string - otherwise existing  
programs may have a problem on the new system as they will expect the  
command string to be here not a little bit further down the stack.

Only problem here is that if an existing program is called with the home  
dir on the stack - the program will not tidy up the stack correctly since  
it does not know to remove the extra bytes (I think though could be  
wrong here)

However, how would a program aware that the home dir might be higher up  
the stack cope with this - for example, some programs MAY require an empty  
string to be passed as the command string.  Guess if there is a special  
identifier word before the home dir string, this would overcome this  
problem.


2) The bigger problem and one which is harder to address...
How do you decide what is the home directory of a file called
win1_basic_exts_turbo_config_exe
Simple. Open_dir win1_basic_exts_turbo_config_exe.
Get the name of the resulting file. This will be the directory name (!).
OK - thanks to everyone I had forgotten about FNAME$
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Re: [ql-users] I'm home, dear.

2005-01-11 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:00:37 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Or a completely different proposal:
Lets take the standard job as the starting point. Dealing with  
QLiberated or
Turboed jobs need some special treatment.

When a job is first started it has a code area and a data area. If there  
are
open channels or a command line the Basic keywords EX (and family) adds  
the
space this data requires to the dataspace and stacks that data on top of  
the
data area. It would not be difficult to stack the home directory on top  
of
that again thus:

Home directory
Command string
Channel ID
Channel ID

number of channel IDs
Data area
At present (a6,a5) point to the top of the data area. This could now be  
the
pointer to the directory string (alternative registers could be used
instead, if better).
I prefer this type of approach as it would ensure that the home directory  
(or whatever) would be removed together with the job.

However, I perceive several problems with this approach:
1) Older programs which would expect (a6,a5) to point to the command  
string at the top of the data area.  If we were to adopt this scheme, then  
a lot of existing programs would immediately not be able to get at any  
parameters passed to them.  We do not have the software authors or sources  
to enable us to amend existing programs or re-write them.  I guess we  
could overcome this by amending the setup job code to have (A5,A0) (?)  
point to the location of the home directory

2) The bigger problem and one which is harder to address...
How do you decide what is the home directory of a file called  
win1_basic_exts_turbo_config_exe

I guess the code which sets up the job would have to look at each of the  
levels before the underscore to see if they were set up as a directory (ie  
file type 255).
In other words, it would need to check whether the following were  
directory files and select the home directory as the first one it found  
with file type 255
win1_basic_exts_turbo_config_
win1_basic_exts_turbo_
win1_basic_exts_
win1_basic_
win1_

Since the data area is private to each instance of a job, the Home  
Directory
[HD] could easily be dynamic, ie a Current Directory [CD] instead/as  
well.

Id propose the following format for the HD/DC area:
(magic  word)
full file name lengthword
directory length  word
string bytes   bytes
padding to 42 bytesbytes
There would have to be some way to flag that the HD/CD was present: eg an
additional magic word at the top of the structure, or some other method.
Yes, I can understand the need for this - it all depends on what points to  
the HD/CD

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Re: [ql-users] display or convert non _scr formats to _scr

2005-01-10 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:12:25 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I quick request for help here.  I am looking for a way to either convert  
non-ql formats such as JPG or BMP to _SCR or to display them full screen  
so that I can do a capture into the _SCR format.

Any quick suggestions, other than from GIF (color count is too limited)?
Thanks,
jim

Yes use Phoebus Graphics Convertor (a Windows program) - now if only  
Pheobus was not on holiday.

Don't think he will mind if I send you a copy privately Jim :-)

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Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-10 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:24:19 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cut
Next step is to assemble a Tim-Swenson style ready to go package,
which I know will not meet with JRH's approval - I seem to remember a
snooty email from JRH when Tim originally put it together. His package
includes sources and all sorts of bits and pieces you don't need as a
plain browser user.

Lynx is GPL license and you should include the source.
Perhaps the answer is to unzip on a linux box, change the directory  
names to
shorter ones and zip it up again.
The answer is to create two zip files, one with the runtime version and  
one with the sources etc - we know the second one will not unzip on the QL  
properly.  Then zip these two zip files together - so there is ONE  
download.

The user can unzip on the PC and then access the runtime zip from within  
QPC2.

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Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:18:40 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I honestly don't believe this is useable on QPC2.
It starts off overwriting its own files as you unzip them because the  
path names are stored too long. Classic example of an author supplying a  
problem for you to use. All well and good if you are prepared to  
manually rename the directories, which I am not prepared to do. Seems  
the minimum files you need aren't affected, so can be gathered into one  
directory to run it.
Hmm - I will have a look at this this afternoon - though I cannot try it  
as I do not have a beta QPC2..

I've put the files into a directory, pointed PROG_USE and DATA_USE at  
them, set environment variables as per the examples of Duncan Neithercut  
and so  on (the JRH text files are totally unixy and meaningless so I  
refuse to read them as even readme_qdos means little.
This is the problem with all the programs ported from Unix - no-one  
bothers to look at the documentation and see if it would make any sense to  
QL users.  Guess that's why Linux is free but you pay so much to purchase  
a copy and get support...

the line:
157 SETENV www_home=http\homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html
is interesting - you're not telling me Lynx expects a web addres in this  
format rather than
http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html

which is the standard convention
I connected to my ISP from Windows, then ran the boot program for Lynx  
and all that happens is a brief flash of a Lynx screen and nothing,  
disappears without error or anything.
Dilwyn - if you get it figured out, then maybe you will be kind enough to  
sort the files out into a distribution - I think Lynx is under the open  
source, so we could actually provide this version on disk together with  
charges for support  - how much 50 ??!!

Just what is happening? What's being done wrong here? Using Lynx 282,  
latest on JRH's website. The lynx_cfg and lynxrc files are meaningless  
garbage to me, so I haven't touched those. Running in 640x480 QL colours  
mode 4 with the QPC2 v3.30 beta 3 hotfix.
Hmm seeing as Dilwyn has mentioned running Lynx from within QPC2 - does  
Marcel want to actually let us poor mortals who do not have the beta  
version what v3.30 is going to contain - I guess the ability to access the  
internet :-)

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Re: [ql-users] Lynx 282

2005-01-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:34:13 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

This is the problem with all the programs ported from Unix - no-one
bothers to look at the documentation and see if it would make any
sense to  QL users.  Guess that's why Linux is free but you pay so
much to purchase  a copy and get support...
Linux ports to QL systems will be a waste of time until either we all
learn Linux or authors learn to make documentation make sense.
the line:
157 SETENV
www_home=http\homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html
is interesting - you're not telling me Lynx expects a web addres in
this  format rather than
http://homepages.tesco.net/dilwyn.jones/index.html
which is the standard convention
Well, that's the correct way to set up the home page according to
Lynx!!! Local files (i.e. files on your computer) are worse, to set
the above for a local file such as WIN1_TEST_FILE_HTML you'd need to
unix-ify it a bit:
/WIN1/test/file.html
Not very QDOS-friendly!
No its not - but then it is free so the author is not going to offer  
support

That's why we should offer it on a disk or whatever and charge for the  
support side - that seems to be the accepted norm for this sort of  
software.

The actual page displayed is passed as a parameter to the EX command.
And the web address is as you'd expect it to be. I have yet to get the
help files working, as it gives a badly formed address error. So once
I'm in Lynx all I can do is up or down a page, follow a link or quit.
The reason is simple. Path lengths. Use the defaults of program in  
win1_Lynx_ or win1_Lynx282_ and the help file path names are too long,  
the range from 37 to 45 characters in length. So you need to accept  
renames and overwriting and loss of a few files when unzipping inthe  
first place, then do some manual renaming and editing of the help files  
before you can access help files. A bit pathetic really.
Even if you use just win1_ as the extract path you get lots of filename  
length problems

The best idea would be to split the distribution into a runtime version  
which can be unzipped on a QL and the sources and other stuff that is not  
necessary, but could be read on a PC or Unix box.  Not looked at the  
licence, but it should allow this, so long as the sources are still seen  
to be distributed with the program.

cut
Exactly. Time Swenson's distro of Lynx ALMOST works. The boot I sent
to the list works if you put in Marcel's correction and sort out the
configuration files to get help etc working. At the moment, attempts
to access help give me a 'Badly Formed Address' error due to the path  
name lengths described above. Presumably, as JRH is a uQLx user, uQLx  
allows longer filenames than QDOS or SMSQ/E does?
Should be able to work out how to get the help into a format which can fit  
within a QL directory structure.

I will look at this...
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Re: [ql-users] Subject ? ? ? ?

2005-01-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:08:00 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

I believe in this case, it would be the thing at the bottom of the ?
lol Jim I think he means wot's the point ohf having a subject line - the  
body of the emails soon goes away from it...

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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-05 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:30:54 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:09:23 -, John Hall  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
Yes, that is the logic of it.
It clears the existing screen first - which is 800x600.
Then reduces the windows to a next to nothing size - which meant to
prevent a crash.
Then sets a 'High Colour' mode ( relatively speaking as it only has
256 colours ).
Then makes the windows back to the new screen size, which is
deliberately different in resolution to test the effect of the
change.
You miss my point - when the resolution is changed to 640x480, the
outline for #0 is 800x600a0x0, and we all know what happens to a job
whose outline falls outside the (new) screen limits...
Yes, but it doesn't upset my QPC2 but it does Malcolm's weird.  Don;t  
think having an outline outside the new screen limits causes a problem  
- more if an open window falls outside the limits.

Anyway, I also suggested that eh now try OUTLN #0,512,256,0,0 before  
the  DISP_COLOUR command, so we shall see if this makes any difference.
Regrettably not much. The screen is better 'centred' with the 4  
'echoes', yet it is still the same.  That is there isn't the one window  
in the new colour mode.

Interestingly QWord Demo achieves something very similar what I am  
aiming to do from the boot file.

When I launch QWord Demo from a PC Windows desktop of 256 colours at  
800x600.  It sets a High Colour mode which looks like 640x480 from the  
legacy QL screen that first appears. I then play the game in the Colour  
Mode.  When I quit it drops back to the mode and PC screen desktop that  
I started with.  All quite painless.

Malcolm, I think the best solution would be for you to zip your copy of  
QPC2 and qxl.win file and send it to me privately (can you upload it to  
some webspace as this is quicker for me to download and I am only on  
dialup)...
I can then see if your setup gives the same results on my PC, or your  
qxl.win file gives the same results on my copy of QPC2.

At least this might enable us to track down the problem a little easier...
Anyone else on broadband willing to offer to do this first though??
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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-05 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:41:07 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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That's it...
off to Greece now ;-) See you all in 13 days

What, without finishing that little project for me? Boo hoo
Have a good time Phoebus - you will be sorely missed
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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:39:20 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Yes, that is the logic of it.
 It clears the existing screen first - which is 800x600.
Then reduces the windows to a next to nothing size - which meant to  
prevent a crash.
Then sets a 'High Colour' mode ( relatively speaking as it only has 256  
colours ).
Then makes the windows back to the new screen size, which is  
deliberately different in resolution to test the effect of the change.
Might just be worth trying an OUTLN #0,512,256,0,0 after the CLS and just  
before the DISP_COLOUR command

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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:29:49 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone test this code for a boot file to switch colour mode from
QPC2 ?
QPC2 is started in QL Colours 800x600 full screen window.
The boot file listing is to change it over to High Colour, to then run  
a programme in that mode.

On my system it messes up the screen ... :-( ... so be warned before  
you   try it out.

I tried it on my system - 800x600 in both windows mode and full screen  
mode.

No problems I get the completely black screen I expect and can type  
normally.

Suggest you try it in Windows Mode as well
I glad the code is working for you, and for your assistance in  
establishing it.

Is there anything else that you set on your system that I could have  
omitted ?

No... I wonder if it is linked to your graphics drivers, for example I  
might have a later version of DirectX (I have v9.0c).  Suggest you run  
Windows Update and check for optional downloads as well.

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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:48:42 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:29:49 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +, Malcolm Cadman  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone test this code for a boot file to switch colour mode from
QPC2 ?
QPC2 is started in QL Colours 800x600 full screen window.
The boot file listing is to change it over to High Colour, to then  
run   a programme in that mode.

On my system it messes up the screen ... :-( ... so be warned  
before   you   try it out.

I tried it on my system - 800x600 in both windows mode and full  
screen   mode.

No problems I get the completely black screen I expect and can type  
normally.

Suggest you try it in Windows Mode as well
I glad the code is working for you, and for your assistance in  
establishing it.

Is there anything else that you set on your system that I could have  
omitted ?

No... I wonder if it is linked to your graphics drivers, for example I  
might have a later version of DirectX (I have v9.0c).  Suggest you run  
Windows Update and check for optional downloads as well.
That could be a thought ...
If I remember when I installed DirectX it was at v8 ?
Do you have a 'direct' address where it is available from on the M$ site  
?

Nope sorry - Windows Update will pick it up though
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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:09:23 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
Yes, that is the logic of it.
It clears the existing screen first - which is 800x600.
Then reduces the windows to a next to nothing size - which meant to
prevent a crash.
Then sets a 'High Colour' mode ( relatively speaking as it only has
256 colours ).
Then makes the windows back to the new screen size, which is
deliberately different in resolution to test the effect of the
change.
You miss my point - when the resolution is changed to 640x480, the
outline for #0 is 800x600a0x0, and we all know what happens to a job
whose outline falls outside the (new) screen limits...
Yes, but it doesn't upset my QPC2 but it does Malcolm's weird.  Don;t  
think having an outline outside the new screen limits causes a problem -  
more if an open window falls outside the limits.

Anyway, I also suggested that eh now try OUTLN #0,512,256,0,0 before the  
DISP_COLOUR command, so we shall see if this makes any difference.

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Re: [ql-users] Q40 60 Screen Resolutions

2005-01-04 Thread Rich Mellor
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:46:40 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I believe Phoebus said that it was not the video chip which restricted  
the
display on the Q40 and Q60 to 512x256  1024x512.
Does this mean it is possible to get other resolutions by changing the
operating system or is it one of the custom chips that restricts the  
screen
resolution?
If so can the custom chip be reprogrammed to handle more resolutions?


You would be better asking this question on the ql-developers list since  
Peter Graf subscribes to that list, but not this one unfortunately...

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Re: [ql-users] OUTLN on QPC2 smsq/e

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 07:45:42 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 2 Jan 2005 at 22:59, Rich Mellor wrote:

However, OUTLN #0,0,0,0,0 crashes SuperBASIC - a quick look at the
channels in QPAC2 shows that it still exists, but SuperBASIC cannot get
past this point.
Oh, what a naughty thing to do. :-)
Of coutse, Sbasic hasn't crashed, but
if you set the outline to a size of 0,0, of course you won't have a  
cursor anymore, nor
anywhere to type in the new outline sinze you made the window too small..

However, try the following:
outln#0,0,0,0,0
pause 50
outln#0,100,100,100,100
and run it. After a second, you will have the new window#0
Aha - so it does - I realised that I needed to reset the outline size...
However, this was Malcolm Cadman's boot program - and it never appeared to  
get pase the OUTLN #0,0,0,0,0 command.

Worked out what the problem was - he was trying to use WINDOW on #0,  
before resetting the OUTLN to the new size - as a result, an error was  
being generated, but because #0 was 0x0 pixels, you could not see that or  
get a cursor !

Thanks Wolfgang - I should have tried this...
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Re: [ql-users] Pay Pal

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:41:01 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 23:35:32, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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If foreign users want to order stuff from the UK, I would gladly take
payments via PayPal and pass on the payment to the actualt trader (less
the PayPal fee - about 6%).  I have done this before for some of my
customers.
Wow, that is pretty high.
Hmm my figure is wrong
Actually depends on size of transaction overall as there is a flat fee as  
well as percentage:
 - fee is actually 20p + 3.4%

There is also a withdrawl charge unless you withdraw more than 50 from  
your PayPal account.

The percentage per transaction is less if you qualify for a merchant  
account, but I doubt somehow whether any of the QL traders would qualify -  
you have to receive an average of $3000 pm !!


I think the fee on an IMO (international money order) or banker's draft
is less.
All depends - these are generally just a fixed amount no matter how much  
you are sending.

Also when I was using Barclay's Merchant Services for credit cards, they
were 4% and that was higher than normal.  They charged a lot less if one
used electronic transfer, but then demanded a minimum of 15 per month
to rent a machine (or 400 to buy, plus undisclosed service fees every
few years).
... and this was 4% on the VAT too.
Guess in view of this, PayPal's charges do not seem too bad - at least you  
only pay per transaction and so if you don't sell anything, you do not  
have to pay any fees.  Only problem is that each customer has to have a  
unique valid email address for PayPal, so you can't use it for telephone  
purchases.

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:26:29 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Sun, 2 Jan 2005 at 23:18:10, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, Franois Van Emelen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

gwicks wrote:
snip
It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another,
especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic.
You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to
traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros
disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer
not to transfer money abroad.
Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to
receive  it (UK banks charge around 25 to accept a foreign payment !!)
... not if it is drawn on a UK branch of a foreign bank.
Oh yes, there is that option, provided of course that it is also drawn in  
Pounds Sterling - though no idea how much a foreign bank would charge  
their customer for this service - bet it is not just the exchange rate !!

That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about
and  no extra charges really.
I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company.
There would be real hassles if problems arose.
But Tony, we are not talking about foreign based companies - we are  
talking about QL traders accepting payments - all the QL traders have been  
around more than long enough to be trustworthy by now, surely..

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:05:10 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 10:57:24, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])

That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about
and  no extra charges really.
I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company.
There would be real hassles if problems arose.
But Tony, we are not talking about foreign based companies - we are
talking about QL traders accepting payments - all the QL traders have
been  around more than long enough to be trustworthy by now,
surely..
The foreign company I am talking about is paypal itself.
Oh right I see what you mean - they are a US company and I have never had  
any problems myself, having used them for over 3 years.
Any credit card payment processor can cause you problems with chargebacks  
etc - they tend to refund the customer money first.

However, if you want to accept credit card payments and do not want to  
fork out the setting up fees and monthly fees for a merchant account (or  
cannot justify them), then I see no real alternative.  If anyone knows of  
one, then I'd be interested

I am talking about chargebacks etc to customers, not trouble with
traders.
Paypal is -very- bad when things go worng.
There is no UK law to help me here.
In any case, 6% is far too much.
As I said in reply to the other message - 6% was a bit of an exaggeration.
Just build this into your pricing.
In all my overseas trading I have had no trouble getting customers to
use IMOs or bankers drafts, or even cash.
The trouble is that if you are selling via a website in the main, it is  
much easier for customers to click on a link and enter their credit card  
details for payment. If you insist on them sending IMOs or bankers drafts,  
they have to take account of the extra fees and it is then a question of  
whether they can bother going to the bank to sort it out - you normally  
lose a sale this way.

The other problem is the customer finding a bank in their country which  
has a UK branch - if they are not a customer of that bank, then they have  
to pay even more on the main.

How many customers are going to pay 5 - 10 (or more) fee just to order  
something for 7.50 (which is one of my main orders - Spectrum keyboard  
membranes).

Cash is not really an option - too risky to send in the post and after  
all, it is illegal to send cash in the UK postal system.

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:17:41 +, Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel   
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter   
lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival  
through  e-bay, and paid through Paypal  after the box-office had sold  
them, but  before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay rules  
she had to  pay immediately.  She waited until the tickets had been  
distributed  (which was much later this year than previously)  but  
when hers were not  sent on to her she tried to contact the parties  
concerned. The person  selling had, by then, disappeared. Both E-bay  
and Paypal refused to get  involved because it was too long after the  
transaction. The matter was  referred to the police, who seem to have  
done SFA about it, even though  the seller could be traced via his  
ISP.
  Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however  
you  pay them.  You need to know that they are reliable really !!
Agreed, and you can't always trust feedback either, I recently bought an  
item from Ebay that was totally wrong for the purpose described, the  
seller has sold a lot of stuff on Ebay ( well over a thousand items )  
but got this one wrong, it can happen but two emails to him got no  
response so I went through Paypal claims procedure, it was easy and I  
got compensated to the full amount, it did cost me postage to return the  
item however.
Yes, I had a similar experience, but was refunded my payment without  
problems.

  perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful  
traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of that  
type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders and have  
found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need a lot of  
upgrades, though I also want QDT and word)

QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what is  
stopping you


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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:06:19 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +,() Malcolm Cadman  
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200 REMark Set a High Color mode : Mode 16 is 256 Colour
210 DISP_COLOUR 2,640,480
Exactly.. .ergo NOT a high colour mode...
Semantics again - what we need to know is why this boot program does not  
work on Malcolm's system.

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Re: [ql-users] Colour Mode from QPC2

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:40:52 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi,
Can anyone test this code for a boot file to switch colour mode from
QPC2 ?
QPC2 is started in QL Colours 800x600 full screen window.
The boot file listing is to change it over to High Colour, to then run a  
programme in that mode.

On my system it messes up the screen ... :-( ... so be warned before you  
try it out.

I tried it on my system - 800x600 in both windows mode and full screen  
mode.

No problems I get the completely black screen I expect and can type  
normally.

Suggest you try it in Windows Mode as well

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:26:08 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 17:21:42, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On 3 Jan 2005 at 9:26, Tony Firshman wrote:
I simply don't like dealing with a foreign based company.
There would be real hassles if problems arose.
Fortunately, we continentals don't think the same way, who would you  
sell to?
I am talking about paypal and not customers or foreign stores.
I did look at their conditions and was totally put off.  I had basically
to sign away too many of my statutory rights and accept their own.
Somehow I doubt that you could sign away your statutory rights - after  
all, they hold the position of power over the consumer...

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:14:10 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On  Mon, 3 Jan 2005 at 13:37:05, Rich Mellor wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:02:23 +, Jeremy Taffel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A word of caution here for people paying through Paypal.. My daughter
lost 500 last year. She bought tickets for the Reading Festival
through   e-bay, and paid through Paypal  after the box-office had
sold them, but   before they had printed or distributed them. By e-bay
rules she had to   pay immediately.  She waited until the tickets had
been distributed   (which was much later this year than previously)
but when hers were not   sent on to her she tried to contact the
parties concerned. The person   selling had, by then, disappeared.
Both E-bay and Paypal refused to get   involved because it was too
long after the transaction. The matter was   referred to the police,
who seem to have done SFA about it, even though   the seller could
be traced via his ISP.
Same problem as dealing with any trader over the internet - however you
pay them.  You need to know that they are reliable really !!
You can't blame PayPal or eBay - your daughter should have paid via
escrow  knowing that the tickets were not yet printed.  If the seller
does not  offer that option, then don't deal with them - under escrow
the money is  held until you confirm that the goods have been received.
You have to be -very- careful of online escrow.  There are many cases of
dummy escrow sites which are -very- convincing.
Have a read of this:
http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/
A brilliant piece of anti-scammer work.
I had lost my link, but I remembered they has misspelt Edgware Road as
'Edgeware, so google found it!

That is a very good story - there have always been people trying to scam  
traders ever since people started selling things...

If the seller has disappeared, not much that PayPal or eBay can do -
they  only provide the platform for paying and receiving money /
selling and  buying goods.
Your daughter should have gone to her credit card company - they will
refund any payment over 50 if it turns out to be to a fraudulent
trader  or the trader gets put into liquidation.
I am pretty sure that this applies -only- to transactions over 100, and
they will refund the total amount.  However a recent case suggests this
will only work for a UK transaction, not overseas.
Hmm possibly - always worth asking them though
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[ql-users] Royalty Payments for Development Tools

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
Something I have been discussing with some of the other traders has raised  
a little issue.

What development tools on the QL require a royalty to be paid to the  
original developer, for every copy of a program, which uses those tools,  
that is sold?

I think that there are royalties on the following:
Pointer Environment (WMAN and PTR_GEN, if included with the program) 1 to  
Tony Tebby
Extended Environment(WMAN, PTR_GEN and HOT_REXT if included with the  
program) ?? to Tony Tebby
QMenu Extensions 1 to Jochen Merz

I am not certain about:
EasyPTR
- I recall that there was a royalty payable to Albin for each program sold  
which used this tool for its menus.
However, Roy Wood is not certain.  Does anyone know - have sent an email  
to Albin, but no reply yet (if it is still valid).

Any others??
It would be nice if TT agreed to remove the royalty on the Pointer  
Environment (and Extended Environment), due to the fact that most users  
now have these.  However, that is up to Tony (and yes, I admit, I must owe  
him some royalties as I thought these were royalty free, drat - where did  
I get that from?)

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:40:41 +, Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
snip
  perhaps we should remember the QL world has seen a few doubtful   
traders in the past, fortunately I was never involved with any of  
that  type, in fact I think I have dealt with all the present traders  
and have  found them all to be top notch. ( he he can you tell I need  
a lot of  upgrades, though I also want QDT and word)
   QWord and the upgrades from me are already available Bill, so what  
is  stopping you
SWMBO,two classic motor cycles, four delightful grandchildren, two not  
so delightful grandchildrens parents, four sets of obligatory tacky  
Christmas lights now to take down, a cat, a dog, a loft full of stuff  
that's mine that I cant remember gathering and now want to get rid of, a  
sky dish that's not aligned correctly, making a decision whether to  
re-align the dish or cancel Sky, wasting to much time buying bits of old  
classic bike on Ebay, trying to play Badminton with a 61 year old leg  
that has both a gammy knee and a pulled calf muscle (the knee has been  
in the care of the NHS for two years now ), building yet anther shed to  
hold stuff ( some of it Ql related ) oh and a full time job that keeps  
me out of mischief for an average 50 plus hours a week - I've yet to  
obtain the partridge in a pear tree but I'm sure it's not far off.
Roll on retirement and the bliss of not being able to afford half of  
this.
With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel it  
and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining


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Re: Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:59:15 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Mon, 03 Jan 2005 22:49:46 -,() Rich Mellor  
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With all that lot Bill, you probably don't have time for Sky !! Cancel  
it and get QWord instead - its much more entertaining
or get both QWord and a Dreambox and watch Sky for free ;-) (Sorry you  
still have to pay for QWord though)

OK what is a Dreambox?  This the free satellite thing?
If Bill's Sky box is over a year old he can keep it and still watch the  
free to air and free to view satellite channels (just hang on to your  
viewing card)

We have freeview for digital tv through your aerial - only about 40 for a  
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Re: [ql-users] Royalty Payments for Development Tools

2005-01-03 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 23:07:34 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Pointer Environment (WMAN and PTR_GEN, if included with the program) 1  
to  Tony Tebby
Extended Environment(WMAN, PTR_GEN and HOT_REXT if included with the  
program) ?? to Tony Tebby
IIRC same for both combinations.
QMenu Extensions 1 to Jochen Merz
Well, in DJC days it used to be DM3,-- which at the time was close to  
1, not sure if he specifies a Euro royalty of if 1 would be close  
enough for him.

EasyPTR
- I recall that there was a royalty payable to Albin for each program  
sold  which used this tool for its menus.
However, Roy Wood is not certain.  Does anyone know - have sent an  
email  to Albin, but no reply yet (if it is still valid).
No, at one point Albin stopped asking for royalties. The Copyright page  
states a licence fee of DM3,-- per program for commercial programs.  
There is no longer any royalty payable.
My manual says nothing - it is (c) 1991-1996 so maybe he had got rid of  
the royalties by then.

The only email address I have for Albin bounces

Any others??
It would be nice if TT agreed to remove the royalty on the Pointer  
Environment (and Extended Environment), due to the fact that most  
users  now have these.  However, that is up to Tony (and yes, I admit,  
I must owe  him some royalties as I thought these were royalty free,  
drat - where did  I get that from?)
Well, that's TT's decision of course.
Probably from Albin's decision to no longer ask for the royalties for  
Easyptr. Unfortunately, I can't remember where that was announced -  
maybe it was about the time he stopped actively developing it.


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Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
cut
If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it,  
together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions).
Happy New Year to all of you.
Why wait??  I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have to  
rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)?
They might have sold out you never know !!

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Re: [ql-users] QL books

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 12:27:26 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On this thread I've been surprised not to see a mention of what I shall  
now
mention!  ;-) Viz
Viz? That's not a QL book !*x@
Illustrating Super Basic on the Sinclair QL Donald Alcock, Cambridge
University Press, 1985, 182pp
ISBN 0-521-31517-4
I was well into programming when I got the book - but I see (now) from  
my
many annotations in it that it proved a very useful source.  Yes! - for  
all
ye olde buffs, it's the one that's handwritten but nevertheless very  
clear
with sketches of little 'bugs' crawling here and there.
Jan Jones's book is more of a reference guide than a learn to program  
book. I wouldn't really suggest it to those wishing to learn SuperBASIC  
int he first place (the QL manual is better for that!) but as a  
reference guide it's great.

There are plenty of learn SuperBASIC books around second hand - Rich  
Mellor often does a miraculous job of finding them for people who ask. I  
do have a couple of QL books here I don't want:

QL SuperBASIC The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones (original McGraw-Hill  
edition, not Quanta edition, good condition but has a bit of my  
scribblings in it)
But Dilwyn, that's a collector's piece by now !!
An Introduction to Programming the Sinclair QL by R.A. and J.W.Penfold
The Sinclair QL Companion by Boris Allan (first ever book on the QL IIRC  
)
Advanced programming with the sinclair QL by Martin Gandoff
Quantum Theory - Simon Rockman
Good Programming With QL SuperBASIC - Roy Atherton

1 pound each + postage to anyone who wants them (or if easier than  
obtaining Pounds to pay me, just send me a few CD-Rs worth about 1  
pound+postage after I've sent them to you when you can see the value of  
postage. I go through a lot of CDRs making backups here, so they're a  
tradeable currency to me!

There's also a few Spectrum books (haven't looked at titles) which  
anyone can have at cost of postage. Or if any traders want them to sell  
on, just ask me and I'll send them to you for cost of postage, or bring  
them to next Quanta workshop I attend.

Dilwyn - you know I'll take them off your hands gladly...
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Re: [ql-users] QL books

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:45:40 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

There are plenty of learn SuperBASIC books around second hand - Rich   
Mellor often does a miraculous job of finding them for people who ask.  
I  do have a couple of QL books here I don't want:

QL SuperBASIC The Definitive Handbook by Jan Jones (original  
McGraw-Hill  edition, not Quanta edition, good condition but has a bit  
of my  scribblings in it)
But Dilwyn, that's a collector's piece by now !!
Try getting my wife to see it that way :-(
Space requirements dictate. When my son sleeps with us his room is  
populated by QL books, QL Worlds, Quanta newsletters, old software,  
floppy disks.with a little bit of space for him to sleep  
somewhere in the middle. Seriously. It's time to make space now that my  
step-daughter from Chris's marriage is living with us on a  
semi-permanent basis.


An Introduction to Programming the Sinclair QL by R.A. and J.W.Penfold
The Sinclair QL Companion by Boris Allan (first ever book on the QL  
IIRC  )
Advanced programming with the sinclair QL by Martin Gandoff
Quantum Theory - Simon Rockman
Good Programming With QL SuperBASIC - Roy Atherton

1 pound each + postage to anyone who wants them (or if easier than  
obtaining Pounds to pay me, just send me a few CD-Rs worth about 1  
pound+postage after I've sent them to you when you can see the value  
of  postage. I go through a lot of CDRs making backups here, so  
they're a  tradeable currency to me!

There's also a few Spectrum books (haven't looked at titles) which  
anyone can have at cost of postage. Or if any traders want them to  
sell  on, just ask me and I'll send them to you for cost of postage,  
or bring  them to next Quanta workshop I attend.

Dilwyn - you know I'll take them off your hands gladly...
OK, will pop all the QL books in a parcel to you this week, if you're  
taking the lot forget the pound a piece, just send me face value of  
postage plus a token amount to satisfy my wife I haven't just given  
them, away after you get them.

I'll be glad to see them find a worthy new home. I keep meaning to do  
this, as it's a new year I'm going to be firm and sort it all out for  
once in my life.
Well, trouble is that they do tend to follow you around.
Please let others get in first though - ie. given them a couple of days to  
respond to your original offer :-)

If your health allows you to come to a workshop this year, I might  
prepare half a ton of gear for you to have. Seriously, though, as the  
route from here to most QL shows includes the M6 it might be possible  
for me to either drop stuff off at your current Shelfield address if I  
can find it (I hate driving in Walsall/Birmingham areas), or even give  
you a lift to the workshop (same proviso!)
Now there's an offer  My health should permit me to drive more this  
year and maybe attend a show, but with them all now being on the south  
coast this year (why oh why oh why), think that would be too far for me  
even with a lift.

We can always meet up at a services somewhere !!
My QoLlector's urge has gone recently (although QLing urge just as  
strong as ever) - only collections I still want to keep are QL Worlds,  
IQLRs and Quantas.

Right, let's go collect some stuff for Mr Mellor...I only hope you  
realise what's coming :o)

Not interested in magazines - best place for them is the recycling bin  
since no-one ever asks for them.

Books are different though no more of the Sinclair Series black books -  
I have piles of those.

Right - best make some more room in the garage then !
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Re: [ql-users] Launchpad-was Q60 Blues

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:08:31 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Malcolm Cadman wrote:
At present I have configured Launchpad to be extremely useful on my
QPC2 system.
Could you please tell me how to find the be extremely useful
configuration option in Launchpad (and, indeed, in all my other
software)? :-)
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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:13:53 -, gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another,  
especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic.
 The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June.
 If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account.  
This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure  
Rich and I could reach some agreement over this.

That sounds good Geoff and is ok with me :-)
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[ql-users] OUTLN on QPC2 smsq/e

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
Sometime ago, we were discussing the problem of changing the screen  
resolution and that crashing SuperBASIC.

One of the ways aroud this was to set all 3 basic windows to size 0x0  
before doing the DISP_SIZE (or DISP_COLOUR) command and resetting them  
afterwards to fit within the new resolution (God help you if you do this  
and then get an error when you set them to the new resolution though).

This does work subject to the limitation of making sure you don't get an  
error.

However, OUTLN #0,0,0,0,0 crashes SuperBASIC - a quick look at the  
channels in QPAC2 shows that it still exists, but SuperBASIC cannot get  
past this point.

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Re: [ql-users] QWord payment

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:18:31 +0100, Franois Van Emelen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


gwicks wrote:
snip
It is not always easy to transfer funds from one country to another,  
especially if you don't have the right bit of plastic.
You're quite right. I have had some unpleasant surprises (not due to  
traders or suppliers) from my own bank. The equivalent of 15 euros  
disappeared in thin air and as the enquiry isn't closed yet, I prefer  
not to transfer money abroad.
Trouble is that banks charge money to transfer money abroad and to receive  
it (UK banks charge around 25 to accept a foreign payment !!)

That is why PayPal is so good - only your credit card to think about and  
no extra charges really.

The traders are also unlikely to be in Eindhoven before 18th June.
 If it helps, I can accept payment via my Dutch Postbank Giro account.  
This may be a way of avoiding high currency transfer charges. I'm sure  
Rich and I could reach some agreement over this.
 Best wishes,
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Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo

2005-01-02 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 00:32:51 +0100, Franois Van Emelen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
snip
Why wait??  I shall not be able to attend Eidnhoven and so will have  
to  rely on someone else to take stock (Geoff)?
Please see my reply to Geoff.
They might have sold out you never know !!
You are pulling my leg here (correct English? :)
If so, it would be great for you, Geoff and Dokos.
Why not ask other traders to add QWORD in their catalog: Roy and Jochen  
are usually attending Eindhoven.
Ex-traders could do the same. There are cdroms out there (Dilwyn's,..) I  
have never seen at a QL meeting and so never had the opportunity to buy  
them.
The problem is that QL software is supplied on a very tight budget -  
doesn't really leave any room to let others take a share of sale proceeds,  
especially after taking account of the cost of getting the disks and  
manuals etc to the trader in the first place.  Also, having stocks with  
other traders also causes problems when you update the software (or need  
to keep a list of your customers since traders don't always get these  
details).

Because the QL market is so small, and so few people actually attend shows  
/ buy stuff at the shows, it makes the postage to the trader a very high  
proportion of the actual profit on any sales (I sent some stuff to teh  
Norwich show for sale - the profit from the two items that were actually  
sold did not cover the postage, so I won't be doing that again - leave it  
for people to order over the internet, or if they aren't willing to find a  
way of ordering from abroad, let them lose out).

Coupled with the problems of getting payment from fellow traders, it  
really is not worthwhile any more.

If foreign users want to order stuff from the UK, I would gladly take  
payments via PayPal and pass on the payment to the actualt trader (less  
the PayPal fee - about 6%).  I have done this before for some of my  
customers.

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Re: [ql-users] SMSQ/e v3.07 on the Q40/Q60, was QDT Demo

2005-01-01 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 11:14:53 +, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Roy, please do not start this up all over again -
I was not trying to start anything up just correcting your statement. I  
will shut up about it now.
Good - time to move forward :-)
Yes, Wolfgang has a Q60, but it is not up to Wolfgang to identify why  
software is incompatible and most certainly he cannot always verify  
reported problems with smsq/e on a Q40, Q40i, Q60, Gold Card and Super  
Gold Card - especially when very little detail is provided of the  
system  make up, the version of smsq/e being used (and whether it is an  
official  release or self-compiled) and also what versions of the  
programs are being  used that show a problem.  All that plus the  
problem of having access to  all the various hardware makes it  
extremely difficult for operating system  designers to identify  
potential problems without the actual hardware specs  and co-operation  
of someone with in-depth knowledge of the hardware.
Well that is the reason I still have a Q40 and Aurora system running. If  
people report problems exist we can effectively test them to see if we  
can

a reproduce the problem
b find the cause
c fix it
For my part I can really only do the first one since I am no programmer  
and, now that SMSQ/E is no longer the province of one person, we do have  
to rely on the beneficence of  others in providing their time checking  
and re-writing code but this has worked, on the whole, much better since  
the licence was adopted than it did when it was all down to TT who,  
quite often, had severe time restraints.  Now we can have a few people  
looking at things and they get found and sorted quicker.
Yes but unfortunately, as the amount of hardware options increase, the  
traders and those who support the o/s struggle to keep up with it - this  
is why its so important to keep the hardware designers on board too :-)


Put all this to one side it is now 2005, quite a few years since you  
Roy and Tony F produced the Q40s.  SMSQ/e has also now continued to be  
developed quite successfully under the new licence for a couple of  
years () and those who produce the hardware should not be involved in  
arguments  over the terms under which an operating system is released.
I agree with that so, why is it we still get the ''v2.98 was the last  
real SMSQ/E for the Q40/60' comments as last week ? This is unhelpful to  
the users and not true as many people with these systems and later  
versions of  SMSQ/E will testify. You have to remember this is a public  
forum and anything here will affect people's decisions on whether or not  
to adopt hardware or software.

Definitely - for myself, I have not come across any real problems or  
issues with hardware or the operating system throughout the QL's long  
history - the main problems appear to be in the software itself (which  
does not always get updated to take account of changes in hardware and  
o/s).  Any bugs I find I generally report as soon as I can and they  
normally get fixed in the next release.

My main moans about smsq/e in December all really boil down to the poor  
documentation which exists for smsq/e for programmers to use and did not  
really affect the users.  I know that Dilwyn is starting to collate this  
all together for me to cast my eye over and hopefully merge into a new  
programmers documentation which would resolve much of this.

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Woe betide that Nasta produces a Coldfire which has even more  
incompatability issues, if people are not willing to work together to  
try and resolve them.
Nasta and Marcel (who has done a lot of work on SMSQ/E and probably  
understands it better than anyone) are already discussing this. As  
always it will be device drivers that cause the problems not the O/S
That is good news indeed - however, incompatabilities in smsq/e can be  
resolved - it is the software incompatabilities which may colour people's  
views of Coldfire  Trouble is that when users buy a new piece of  
hardware and suddenly an old program no longer works, they are too quick  
to blame the operating system or the hardware, rather than thinking that  
maybe the software they have (which may not have been updated for 15-20  
years) might actually need amending.

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Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues

2005-01-01 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:57:22 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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With Launchpad, 9 out of 10 problems are installation directory. Since  
QDOS or SMSQ don't tell programs which directory they were executed from  
(if you EXEC win1_programs_MYPROGRAM_exe the poor program doesn't know  
it came from win1_programs_ so can't find its own files unless it's  
configured with the name win1_programs_). In other words, all you have  
to do is configure Launchpad to tell it where it's been installed (i.e.  
where the LAUNCHPAD_dat and LAUNCHPAD_pwl files are) and 90% of problems  
are gone just like that. Sadly, even using Config is beyond some people  
without precise step by step instructions, never mind MenuConfig and  
level 2 configs etc etc.
Yes this is a problem - our QWord installer sets up the config block  
automatically however :-)


In DJC days people used to just ring me in the middle of the night for  
help rather than read instructions so I no longer have a number people  
can call me on. It was one of the reasons why DJC was shut down as I was  
going through a bad patch after the death of a child in 1994. So of  
course what was then happening was people sending the disk back (often  
keeping the printed instructions) with an angry letter demanding a  
refund as it doesn't work, even though reading the 2 page instruction  
slip would have got them going. If a disk reads OK, the version of the  
program has no known bugs preventing it from installing and starting I  
send an equally snooty letter back without a refund asking for a written  
assurance they haven't kept a copy, especially if the manual wasn't  
returned with the disk (the usual real reason was that the Jiffy bag had  
been thrown away by then and they had no large enough envelope to send  
the manual back, but how was I to know that?)
Oh Dilwyn - you should have asked my advice - I was even a solicitor in  
them days !!
At the end of the day, the program would not have breached the Sale of  
Goods Act, as it was fit for its purpose, just provided the user actually  
read the manual !!


Back in DJC days again, I was threatened with being sued for that  
tactic, over a 10 program refund. I paid up the 10 refund to avoid  
costs, scandal, fuss, wasted time and so on after being told that even  
if I was technically right they'd still make it such a long drawn out  
painful time wasting experience for me for the sake of 10 pounds. A few  
months later at a workshop I spotted the silly pillock concerned running  
the same program he'd been given a refund for. At Freddy's suggestion  
IIRC I quietly took a picture of him at his computer running the program  
- the late Joe Haftke saw what I was up to (we used to share tables at  
workshops and I used to take a camera to get pictures for show reports  
in IQLR at the time) and thankfully kept quiet about it.Then when I'd  
developed the film I sent the customer a copy with a brief note saying  
my turn to sue I think since you obviously kept and used a copy despite  
the refund. I kept quiet about it at the time to avoid too much  
trouble, although a then committee member did find out about it somehow  
and challenged me later as to what the hell was going on. Needless to  
say I have never heard from the customer since and haven't seen him at  
workshops in recent years either.
Can't say I've ever really had a problem customer in my years of trading -  
damn now they will all start getting in touch with me! Quick touch  
wood  Damn Roy you're too far away

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Re: [ql-users] infozip

2005-01-01 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:05:02 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Does anyone know why unzip is looking for the signal extensions and   
what they add?  It would be nice to have a copy available or a  
command  line option that would totally avoid this minor  
inconvenience,  especially in this case or for new users.  People  
tend to panic over  notes like this ;)
Some versions of Unzip issue an error message but proceed to work  
perfectly well for common tasks without Signal Extensions present.

I had a correspondence with Jonathan Hudson about this some time ago. He  
said there are situations where it tries to use SigExt but the message  
could be safely ignored. If so, it shouldn't have been issued to worry  
users needlessly was my argument.
Yes I agree, but then Linux programmers expect their users to be fellow  
linux programmers, so never think about user friendliness in my experience.

IIRC it was v5.32 or the version before that (or a small cluster of  
versions around that version number). Later and earlier versions did not  
issue the message.
Nope - current version v5.40 still issues this warning.
Nobody has come forward offering to compile and test v5.50 yet I see
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Re: [ql-users] QPC2 CD player

2005-01-01 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 17:07:20 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Rather than pester a very busy Marcel with a trivial problem, does  
anyone know if the QPC2 CD Player could either play 2 separate CDs from  
2 separate drives at the same time, or a CD and and image on hard disk  
somewhere?
Dilwyn - I have 2 CD drives - just can't find Marcel's CD Player...
I think though that the CD commands in QPC2 can only access the first CD  
drive it comes to - not even an image on the hard disk.

 A lad at work is looking at setting up a mobile disco based on a PC  
(play one CD while getting the other ready cued or even 'mixing' two  
tracks, he even wants to record voice links on one CD and play the music  
with voice-overs). It's just a thought in case I can impress him with a  
simple SBASIC program in the new year!
 I don't have 2 drives on my PC to try this out, and don't know how to  
create an image on hard disk unless it's as simple as copying all .cda  
audio files to a folder on hard disk.
 Given my background in broadcasting some years ago, it's a little  
project which got my interest even if I don't want to get too involved!!!
 He's using MP3 tracks and two copies of windows explorer or windows  
media player to cue and play the tracks, don't know how he mixes things  
so that only the correct audio comes from the correct drive while he  
cues the other tracks (assuming of course he bothers to listen to cue  
them, or prehear or PFL or whatever headphone cueing was called).
 New year madness...don't worry, ignore me, I'll (probably) go away.


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Re: [ql-users] You can never have it all...

2005-01-01 Thread Rich Mellor
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:50:05 -, hitchies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re:
Inspired by the discussion on a good superbasic book on this mailing  
list
I managed to get a second hand copy of Jan Jones QL SuperBASIC - the
definitive handbook.

In my opinion this book was written in a fairly technical style, it is an
excellent and comprehensive resource for reference purposes, but  
definitely
not a good starting point for newcomers.
=

On this thread I've been surprised not to see a mention of what I shall  
now
mention!  ;-) Viz

Illustrating Super Basic on the Sinclair QL Donald Alcock, Cambridge
University Press, 1985, 182pp
ISBN 0-521-31517-4
I was well into programming when I got the book - but I see (now) from my
many annotations in it that it proved a very useful source.  Yes! - for  
all
ye olde buffs, it's the one that's handwritten but nevertheless very  
clear
with sketches of little 'bugs' crawling here and there.

Regards to all,
John in Wales

Damn - I've got one of those here as well !!
Wonder if I've got nearly every QL book that was ever printed in my second  
hand list - especially when I look at the list of books John Gilpin is  
holding at the Northern Quanta depot.

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Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo

2004-12-31 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 11:09:51 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

So assuming we are already up in 1024 x 512 and we issue a WMON 50,50  
(as per M.K. usual standard which I have adopted as itleaves sufficient  
space for the button frame - thanks Marcel) and then issue either a  
DISP_SIZE 512,256 (which should switch to512x256 Hi-colour) or  
DISP_COLOUR 0,512 (Which should switch to Mode 4 512 x 256) the OS dies  
- And when I mean dies... diescompletely -Only a hardware reset will  
bring it back.
However if you keep your job 0 within the confines of the 512x256 (upper  
half corner of the screen) then switching is no problem.
 You will kill a couple of PE jobs here and there but that's to be  
expected.
Is this not the same problem as I highlighted on this very some time ago -  
the problem is that the SuperBasic windows exceed the visible screen area  
and so smsq/e tried to kill the job (it kills all jobs which would have  
any part of their windows outside the reduced screen area).

I can see why this happens (although it should NOT affect job 0 - which  
should surely force #0,#1 and #2 into the standard WMON setup (in 512x256)  
- possibly just stop the current job from running and close any windows  
which would fall outside 512x256.

Without background screen writing, it is impossible to let other jobs run.
However, my suggestion was that jobs should not be killed when the screen  
resolution is altered - only when they are brought to the top of the pile  
(so that they would be able to write to the windows which are outside of  
the screen area).  In this way, if the user switched from 1024x512 to  
512x256 to run a small program, they could carry on using the high  
resolution program, provided that they changed the screen mode back before  
PICKing the job.

Another option could be for the task scheduler to increase the screen size  
if a task cannot fit within the confines of the current screen - though I  
do not think that this would look very neat.

Any other suggestions on the best way of handling these ??
I thought someone had offered to look at background screen drawing - did  
they ever do anything other than offer their services??

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Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo

2004-12-31 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:43:42 +, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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I don't think it is anything to do with your software.
After looking at it again today the problem for me is that my version of  
the 'Wman' is v1.53, which has been superceded for the High Color  
screens.
Hang on Malcolm - what system are you running this on...??  Smsq/e has  
wman and ptr_gen incorporated - you should not be loading them separately.

QDT only runs under smsq/e if I am correct - therefore you should not be  
worrying about the version of wman as much as the version of smsq/e

As your software is quite rightly exploiting the latest graphic  
abilities, this is where I have been caught out.

It took me some time to realise it ! . as I wasn't looking for that  
as the cause, and there were no error messages being shown.

Your Installer is well implemented.  I am just saying make it as  
foolproof as possible ... especially as it can be quite a lengthy  
process.
I am sure he would appreciate comments on how to make it more foolproof -  
I am waiting to see this program with baited breath now...


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Re: [ql-users] infozip

2004-12-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:49:01 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Malcolm, one last thing, where did you get the more recent InfoZip  
copy?
v5.40 is the latest Unzip - have a look at:
http://thgodef.nerim.net/smsq/#ARCH
You will also need to include the signal extensions with that in the  
installer (same as I use for QWord installer) and zip the files with  
the latest version of zip (v2.2 - also from same source).
Which signal extensions are you referring to?  Infozip in the past has  
always been independent of extensions that I am aware of.

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I know - what a pain - unzip does not seem to actually use the signal  
extensions (sigext30_bin), but always complains if they are not loaded.

This has caused us a headache with the QWord installer - you cannot  
include them in the compiled program, as they are a device driver.  They  
must be loaded in the boot (and not from an SBASIC either).

Will send a copy of them to you privately - they are not easy to find on  
the internet at the drop of a hat.

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Re: [ql-users] infozip

2004-12-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:13:54 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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Does anyone know why unzip is looking for the signal extensions and what  
they add?  It would be nice to have a copy available or a command line  
option that would totally avoid this minor inconvenience, especially in  
this case or for new users.  People tend to panic over notes like this ;)

They form an interface for the Unix shell (and QL shell).  I think that  
Roy is correct in that they may be used by ACP.

I load them in the installer boot file - not a problem then.
You would have to recompile Infounzip and Infozip from the sources -  
unfortunately, the sources are now at v5.50 which has never been tested on  
the QL so far as I know

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Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues

2004-12-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:36:51 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damn where's my copy of QL Today - trouble is that people want a helping
hand, but no longer turn to the user group for help and just moan rather
than shouting for help.
Unlike the world of Windows, Unix and Mac users, all the QL traders are
always willing to lend a helping hand and there are several sample boot
programs.
My guess is (without having read the article) that QDT would have been a
better solution for this user - go on Jim, persuade them to budle it with
Q40/Q60.
I have just read David McCann's Article.
It seems a pity that a person who invested in a new QL should so be
disappointed.
I hope we have not lost another QLer.
I think we tend to under estimate the difficulty of getting the QL to  
work
properly.

Also one reason that the Windows is so popular is that it all tends to  
run
straight from the box. It is not until you start to get problems that you
begin to get an inkling of how bad it might be.

Also one of the things that puts people of Linux that it is seldom a  
case of
instal and run.
You find you have to set users, sort out your modem, sort out your  
printer,
and the programs are all that bit different to the ones you have used on  
a
Windows machine.
You are either a geek and persevere or you go back to relatively tried  
and
tested Windows.
At least the chap in the local shop understands these Windows machines!

Macs are another machine which I believe is set up to go from the word  
go as
long as you buy Apple hardware.

So do you think it would be a good idea to see if we can make the QL and  
its
software so it apparently just runs?
Do you think we should try and create a set of simple instructions which  
if
followed to the letter will solve David McCann's problems?
If we succeed perhaps Dilwyn would be good enough to forward to David
McCann.

Unfortunately I cannot help but I know George Gwilt has some problems  
with
his Q40  Q60 and I am sure George and I will be only too pleased to try
them out.

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Re: [ql-users] infozip

2004-12-30 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:12:42 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:59:06 -,() Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:13:54 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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Does anyone know why unzip is looking for the signal extensions and  
what they add?  It would be nice to have a copy available or a command  
line option that would totally avoid this minor inconvenience,  
especially in this case or for new users.  People tend to panic over  
notes like this ;)

They form an interface for the Unix shell (and QL shell).  I think that  
Roy is correct in that they may be used by ACP.

I load them in the installer boot file - not a problem then.
You would have to recompile Infounzip and Infozip from the sources -  
unfortunately, the sources are now at v5.50 which has never been tested  
on the QL so far as I know

AFAIK, it was either Peter or Thierry that compiled the whole InfoUnzip  
distro with qdos-gcc... that should add another 20-30% speed over the  
standard since its maths routines are a lot faster.
And which version of InfoUnzip would that be??  Probably not v5.40 or  
later...  This is the problem - as with Proforma - if you want to use the  
qdos-gcc compiled version, you have to use an earlier version of the main  
program, because it only ever seems to be done once and never updated.

Maybe you could persuade someone to take on the job of Info Zip and Unzip  
support and compile the latest version with qdos-gcc.  Trouble is - plenty  
of people willing to work for nothing, but they will not provide the  
support when their version no longer works..

Of course IIRC Dave Walker was working on the new edition of C68 last  
time I exchanged emails with him that had the same libc_a as qdos-gcc  
which should make c68 code at least as fast as qdos-gcc and with the  
inclusion of gwass as the assembler a lot faster (of course that code  
won't probably run on standard QLs or QPC)
And how long ago was this - when will a new version of C58 be released and  
supported?  I don't think any of the official distributions have been  
changed in over 2+ years.

Everyone talks about why software and smsq/e should be released under a  
GPL licence or similar, but no-one sticks around long enough to support  
their release leaving it up to someone else to work out how to recompile  
newer versions and look at the changes in the sources on the Unix versions  
of the program to see whether they can be incorporated or not on a QL  
version.

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Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 02:59:09 +, David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

At 20:33 26/12/2004 -0500, you wrote:
 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:18:19 +,() David Tubbs
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Why does have to be printed ?
Why wait for Quanta to get butts off chair ?
Just photos, individuals could OCR as needed, perhaps feed back OCR
results for assembling into an HTML document
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...because it is still copyrighted and without expressed permission by  
Jan
Jones it would be illegal!

Phoebus
P.S. Fair use, dictates that you can do it for yourself, quote it or use
it for educational purpose (within an academic setting) but publicising  
it
is a big NO NO.
My own copy has been lost in removings, I have been looking for  
something that would just list basic keywords with syntax. Allwats meant  
to do it for myself in a form that one could cutpaste from.

Even visited major resource site http://www.ql.50megs.com/
- no luck yet !
I thought that site no longer existed - wasn't it one of Dilwyn's??   
Certainly it is a painful site with a pop up on every link !

Anyway, Marcel's suggested link is good - there is also the Q-Index and  
Q-Help programs which I sell :-)  They give you basic syntax about each  
command.

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Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:55:43 +, David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum  
links might be eliminated

The problem is deleting or updating old links - there are still plenty of  
sites which point at my old website - I try to inform them and get them  
updated, but in many cases, it is impossible.

Many of the updates can only be done by Thierry - and he does not have a  
lot of time to spend on websites.

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Re: [ql-users] good superbasic book?

2004-12-27 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:15:23 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

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I handed you the route as an implicit suggestion that it and the bum  
links might be eliminated
That would be good if I could actually access that damn account.. it  
turns out that I cannot :-( So there's nothing I can do about it. I bear  
no responsibility of course of other QL websites :-)

Well can you not tell them to delete the site - maybe we should all  
bombard them with requests to remove it !!

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-24 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:56:57 -, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Once it's settled and everyone stops arguing about it, I'll see about  
adding it to display_cde.
No comment on the code so I guess it will have to wait until the new year.
Seems straightforward enough, the only real difference is that your code  
assumes #0 if no channel is specified, display_cde insists on a channel  
parameter IIRC.

Given that there is some uncertaintly about some of the code used, what  
I might do is add it as an extra function rather than replace the  
existing one for now. The code is similar enough that once we're all  
happy it works as it should, it should be simple enough to integrate  
into display_cde.
Yes it should :-)
Rich - you asked about articles about this type of subject matter being  
made available, if you can come up with a list of what should be  
generally available or which you'd like to try to consolidate as general  
documentation material, I'll see what I have on disk here from past  
Toadies and send them to you once I've asked Marcel, Jochen, Wolfgang  
and anyone else whose articles fall into your list. Indeed, if you chaps  
are listening, would it be OK for Rich to have the material to see what  
he can come up with in terms of collating material with a view to public  
availability. Or, if you prefer, I could send what material I have to  
Rich once he tells me what he wants and he can ask you on a case by case  
basis.
I want any articules on programming in the new colour drivers or latest  
versions of smsq/e.
Lots of new commands have been added to smsq/e and the pointer environment  
since I last updated the SBASIC Reference Manual, and there are plenty of  
new traps and extended definition blocks since the QDOS and QPTR Manuals  
were written, so all of this information desparately needs to be be  
brought up to date (even if only by means of a supplement or pages on a  
central website).

Looking ahead slightly, what I may do is to purt such material relating  
to SMSQ/E and GD2 specifically onto a separate page on my website and if  
Wolfgang or Marcel (or anyone else for that matter) want to add any or  
all of it to dedicated websites or general documentation they can then  
feel free to grab whatever material they require from my website and put  
it into whatever formats suits their needs.
Yes - it might be an idea to put all the information on the QL  
documentation website - however, really it would be better to all appear  
on the official smsq/e website.  The problem is that at the moment, all of  
the information needed is spread across numerous websites, the smsq/e  
sources and copies of QL Today - there is no central source.

Besides that, to say to programmers that the information appears in the  
sources is not exactly helpful - I wonder how many programs would be  
written for Unix if the only source of documentation was to read through  
the thousands of lines of code.

There does not even appear to be an index to the smsq/e sources - for  
example, if I wanted to know how the trap for mt.dmode worked, I wouldn't  
even know where to begin to look in the sources.  Presumably all of the  
TRAP calls are collated, but where? The other solution would be to trace  
through the code as it is executed, but then we hit the big problem that  
QMON (both the original version and Lau's version) seems to always crash  
when tracing code in supervisor mode under smsq/e.  Does anyone know why  
(or better still a fix??)

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Re: [ql-users] Happy Holidays

2004-12-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 11:49:59 +0100, Sinclair QL ES  
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... and a prosperous new year for all the international QL community !!!
Javier Guerra
from Badajoz, Spain
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Same goes for me - lets hope everyone has a really good Christmas, and  
comes back rfreshed in the new year, ready to take the QL forward that  
little bit further...

With the release of QDT and internet ability for Q40/Q60 (and QPC2 I  
believe), 2005 should be a good ywar

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Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book

2004-12-23 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:59 +, John Taylor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is  
to say it trades solely for the
benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its  
earnings from sales to them.
Are Quanta actually allowed to sell to non-members in that case?  
Assuming sales to non-members are allowed, tax would presumably have  
to be paid. And you'd have to keep records.

It wouldn't matter. A solution such as the one I propose would have  
someone else making the actual sale :-)

snip
Quanta is registered as a 'Friendly Society' and as such is exempt from  
VAT and Corporation Tax provided all trade is internal.
Should Quanta be found to be trading with the general public then  
corporation tax becomes due on ALL profit.
That is why no charges are made for entry to workshops.  Keeping tax  
records is already done and an Inland Revenue return is made every year.
In that case, it is a good job that I remain a Quanta member whilst I  
continue to purchase second hand items from Quanta for sale to both  
members and non members alike :-)

If the Jan Jones book were sold through a third party, then the third  
party would have to hold the agreement, not Quanta.
The current agreement is with Quanta for books printed and sold by  
Quanta.
You could say, that the agreement was made with Quanta on the  
understanding that Quanta sold to it's members, avoiding that, whichever  
way you choose, would in my understanding be inadmissible.
I do not understand this argument - in principle, using an online  
publisher to print copies on demand, would only be the same as Quanta  
using a publisher to produce say 100 copies of the book.  If Quanta had to  
limit sales to members only, then so be it (presumably as a member, I  
could purchase copies for resale, as I do with the second hand items).

Otherwise, if Quanta are not willing to do this themselves, then perhaps  
they would write to Jan Jones and explain the situation and ask her to  
contact myself directly, in which case I would offer the book for sale and  
have it printed on an on demand basis.

The other option would be for the book to be distributed by Quanta as a  
PDF file only - this would incur no printing costs whatsoever (other than  
the cost and time of providing a link to a downloadable version to buyers).

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This may sound unpalatable, but it needed saying.  The secretary has  
asked for nominations for the three officers and up to six other  
committee members.
Is anybody doing anything?
No idea - If health permitted, I would join the committee, but then 90% of  
all committee meetings and workshops are now held south of London which is  
too far for me to travel at the moment.  Seems as though I will miss the  
21st anniversary meeting as well for the same reason...

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[ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-22 Thread Rich Mellor
Thanks to Marcel's comments, I have amended the RW_GD2 function to work on  
Minerva, standard smsq/e for Gold Card (v3.07 tested) and high colour  
smsq/e (v3.03 for Gold Card and latest QPC2 version tested).

The code appears below for comment or criticism.  Hopefully I have  
interpreted this all correctly.  The only real change from Dilwyn's  
Display_cde is earmaked NEW CODE.  Though Dilwyn, you need to check the  
parameters passed to  IOP.SLNK in your display_cde version as I have not  
looked myself.

Basically, the routine needs the pointer interface - it will then look for  
the identifier PTR2 at offset $128 within the pointer device linkeage  
block.  If this is not present, then it is an old version of the Pointer  
Interface, which definitely means that GD2 drivers are not present.

If the GD2 drivers are present, then the program looks at the five bytes  
at offset $141 within the pointer device linkeage block (which is what I  
believe Marcel was referring to when he used the term CON driver linkeage  
block).
These bytes are described in the smsq/e sources (keys_con) helpfully as  
modes relating to resolutions.  No idea what this means, but my guess is  
that the five bytes represent the modes which DISP_COLOUR x tries to set  
up.

On current QPC2 systems, the 5 bytes are:
$00
$00
$10
$20
$00
DISP_COLOUR 0, DISP_COLOUR 1 and DISP_COLOUR 5 all set the MODE to mode 0  
(standard QL mode 4).  I guess DISP_COLOUR 1 is set aside for 16 colour  
mode (which has never been implemented) and DISP_COLOUR 5 for natural  
colour mode??
DISP_COLOUR 2 gives us mode $10 (256 colour mode 16)
DISP_COLOUR 3 gives us mode $20 (65536 colour mode 32)

These values are all set to zero in the standard smsq/e though I have no  
idea if this is true for all versions of smsq/e - Marcel??

At least, this appears to provide a good test for whether the current  
system supports high colour mode...

If I am barking up completely the wrong tree, I am sure someone will shout.
RW_GD2
* Routine to check for availability of GD2 colour drivers
  moveq #0,d0Presume default is #0
  cmpa.la3,a5
  beq.s no_GD2CH No parameter
  lea.l 1*8(a3),a0
  cmpa.la0,a5One parameters?
  bne   bad_param
  btst  #7,1(a3,a6.l)First one preceded by hash?
  beq   bad_param
  movea.w   $0112,a2 SB.GTINT - Fetch the integer  
params
  jsr   (a2)
  bne   bad_exit
  moveq #0,d0
  move.w0(a6,a1.l),d0Get BASIC channel number
no_GD2CH
  bsr   GetChannelID Convert channel number to channel  
ID
  tst.l d0
  bne   what_chan

* First of all check for pointer interface
  moveq #$70,d0  IOP.PINF
  moveq #-1,d3
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0   Is the pointer interface present?
  bne   no_ptr   Return -19 (no pointer interface)
  moveq #$6F,d0  IOP.SLNK to get pointer device  
definition block
  moveq #0,d1Position in linkage to set
  moveq #0,d2Number of bytes to set (0)
  moveq #-1,d3   Timeout
  suba.la1,a1Pointer to data to set
  trap  #3
  tst.l d0
  bne   no_ptr

* NEW CODE ADDED **
  move.l$128(a1),d1  Grab pt_ident
  moveq #0,d5
  cmpi.l#'PTR2',d1   Check for GD2 drivers
  bne   no_GD2
  move.b$143(a1),d1  Look at the modes for each  
DISP_COLOUR
  cmpi.b#$10,d1  Does DISP_COLOUR 2 set Mode 16?
  beq.s GD2_FoundYes, so high colour drivers  
available
  move.b$144(a1),d1
  cmpi.b#$20,d1  Does DISP_COLOUR 3 set Mode 32?
  beq.s GD2_FoundYes, so high colour drivers  
available
  cmpi.b#$21,d1  Does DISP_COLOUR 3 set Mode 33?
  beq.s GD2_FoundYes, so high colour drivers  
available
  bra.s no_GD2   Nothing set up to handle  
non-standard QL modes
* END OF NEW CODE **

GD2_Found
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  moveq #1,d1
  move.w#0,(a4)  Store GD2 drivers present flag
  bra   float_ret
no_GD2
  lea.l Hardware_Flag,a4
  move.w#1,(a4)
  lea.l PointerDef_addr,a4
  move.la1,(a4) Store pointer definition block  
address
  moveq #0,d1
  bra   float_ret

no_ptr
  moveq #-19,d1
  bra   float_ret

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-21 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 03:05:17 +0100, Marcel Kilgus  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rich Mellor wrote:
Must be a breakdown somewhere then because I have v3.07 of the
non-colour SMSQ/e for Gold Card
We will work on that.
Good :-)
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No, it should absolutely not return an error. A colour driver is
present. Only a 4 colour driver, but a colour driver nonetheless!
OK fair enough - but why does it return an error on the PE - must be
missing something here.
Just because both drivers only provide 4 colours does not mean they
have the same interface. The SMSQ/E driver is a GD2 4-colour driver,
the PE for QDOS bases on the QDOS CON driver, which is not GD2.
OK, so any machine code program which utilises the new system calls has to  
check for an error return and if present use the old IOW.SINK command to  
set the ink colour - presumably this will require a different value in D1  
to that passed to the GD2 4 colour driver (or will it??).  I guess the GD2  
4 colour palette matches the colours in the GD2 256 colour palette (unless  
redefined of course) .

What happens if a BASIC program uses WM_INK command - on high colour  
smsq/e it will use the 256 colour standard palette, on standard smsq/e it  
will use the 4 colour palette (presumably giving the same colour) and on  
the latest PTR_GEN/WMAN what happens ?

So in this case, it is completely impossible for software to tell if the
version of SMSQ/e in use provides the high colour drivers or not.
That's basically what I was saying all along, yes. We could only
provide a new call that returns it.
The only option that is currently there is to read directly from the
CON driver linkage (byte $142, I think, should be non-zero if
Aurora-256 driver is present). Again, there is currently NO other way.
So where is this documented so I can check?
As pointed out earlier - there appears to be no valid way of reading the  
current INK, PAPER and STRIP colours set by the GD2 calls.  The standard  
ones are stored in the CON driver linkage at offsets $44 - $47.  Surely a  
program might want to check what these values are?!  These appear to be  
set to zero after using WM.INK for example !?

However, it should not crash the system as I get with PRINT RW_GD2
(using my routine - it prints 1 and then crashes).
No it shouldn't. But it could also be your code, how can I know? The
snipped posted is not enough to see that (mainly the definition of
Hardware_Flag is missing, as is float_ret).
I will email the extension direct.  However, the command does not crash  
high colour smsq/e or QDOS/Minerva, so why should it crash standard smsq/e?

I must have missed something there cos I do not recall it saying that
WMAN's traps for the new ink and paper commands would return not
implemented,
What does WMAN have to do with it now? WMAN does not even have one
single trap!
OK my mistake - PTR_GEN adds the traps, WMAN the keywords does it not?
You have the benefit of the source codes - I don't
but smsq/e wouldn't even though they are not implemented if there is
no colour driver. Surely the PE should also provide the same result,
as it should presumably use the 4 colour driver as SMSQ/e??
The 4 colour driver is NOT part of the PE. It is part of the OS. The
SMSQ/E 4 colour driver can do the INK call, therefore no not
implemented error, the QDOS/Minerva 4 colour driver cannot do the
call, therefore a not implemented error.
OK fair enough so machine code programs will need to check for this not  
implemented error as said - again there is no documentation to let  
programmers know this !

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Re: [ql-users] Detecting GD2 - revisited

2004-12-21 Thread Rich Mellor
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 07:02:51 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:38:22 -,() Rich Mellor  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:27:30 -0500, Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Theoretically that should return 0 on non-colour SMSQ/e
It returns 5 on non-colour smsq/e v3.07 !?!?
Hmmm 5 is what it used to return on the beta SMSQ/e 2y99 with colour  
drivers... Marcel?
DISP_TYPE returns 5 on both standard smsq/e and colour driver smsq/e when  
not in 256 colour mode, so this is no help at all in finding out whether  
the colour drivers are present.

Plus of course both your suggestions have two problems - (1) Everyone  
keeps telling me the program should not alter the display colour depth  
or resolution (2) the commands do not exist on non-smsq/e systems (not  
even sure if they have been in all versions of smsq/e)

That's not a problem because:
1. The resolution is being altered legally (which I assume was  
everyone's problme :)

Yes but it does screw up other programs - such as those which have any  
part of their windows outside of 512x480 or those in a different  
resolution - have you SEEN what happens to QPaC2 when you change colour  
depth?  Normally you end up with completely black buttons.

Plus not everyone wants a program to change colour depth.
and
2. It really doesn't matter on non SMSQ/e because you do not have colour  
drivers anyway... If it doesn't run then you don't have colour drivers  
period! (So problem solved!)
Apart from the fact that the command does not exist, therefore a compiled  
program will complain when not run on smsq/e.

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[ql-users] SMSQ/e v3.07 on the Super Gold Card

2004-12-21 Thread Rich Mellor
Just been doing a few more tests on this.
I too get a system crash if I configure smsq/e v3.07 to start in 256  
colour mode - the screen just goes blank when you LRESPR smsq_gold.  Not  
much help there - does not even try to link in Qubide or SGC banners

So, I thought I would try and see why my RW_GD2 code crashes the system.
Re-configured smsq/e to start in QL colour depth and reset the system.
My boot loads fine.
I then LRESPR'd my screen_cde (Marcel I have sent you a copy earlier  
today).
I set a breakpoint using QMON just before where it calls WM.INK.

Now do a PRINT RW_GD2
The breakpoint is reached and I can see the values of the registers.
However, no QMON prompt is displayed and the system just hangs - even the  
smsq/e reset key combination does not work.  I have to reset the hardware.

I wonder whether smsq/e is stuck in supervisor mode at this point (cannot  
remember whether anything in the registers would tell us) since QMON does  
not seem able to trace supervisor mode on ANY version of smsq/e - always  
crashes the system.

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