Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-30 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Dear Mr Services,
Tony
The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I 
asked him if I could have a Branch Manager.
Did he Twig what you were on about?
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-30 Thread John Gilpin

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 Dear Mr Services,
 
 Tony
 
  The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I
  asked him if I could have a Branch Manager.
 Did he Twig what you were on about?

JG

Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the
first case??

John Gilpin.


 Dilwyn Jones



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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-30 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Sun, 30 Jan 2005 at 17:21:06, John Gilpin wrote:
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From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers


 Dear Mr Services,
 
 Tony
 
  The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I
  asked him if I could have a Branch Manager.
 Did he Twig what you were on about?

JG

Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the
first case??
 Come on lads, Roy has the copyright on puns (8-)#

Tony
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-30 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Gilpin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
- Original Message -
From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

Dear Mr Services,

Tony

 The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I
 asked him if I could have a Branch Manager.
Did he Twig what you were on about?
JG
Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the
first case??
Oak A, I think it's time to leaf it out now, buddy.
Don't tangle with the pun meister!
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-30 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Roy wood wrote:
Perhaps that was the root of the problem you went to the bank for in the
first case??
 Oak A, I think it's time to leaf it out now, buddy.
 Don't tangle with the pun meister!

Roy Wood, putting the pun in PUNishment since 19xx ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-28 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
The best one I suppose, was a letter starting
Dear Mr Services,
Tony
The counter clerk at the bank kept calling me 'Mr. Branch' so I asked 
him if I could have a Branch Manager.
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Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-27 Thread David Tubbs
At 19:59 26/01/2005 -0500, you wrote:
BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P
Ffibys Doughcause *
If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to 
apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it.

DT
* Bread because
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-27 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 18:56:59, David Tubbs wrote:
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At 19:59 26/01/2005 -0500, you wrote:

BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P


Ffibys Doughcause *

If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to
apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it.
I don't think he is being rude at all.

He is imply responding to us not understanding Greek and mosspilling his
name.  I know he understands English better than we understand Greek.

I thought it was funny BTW.

I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name.

The best one I suppose, was a letter starting

Dear Mr Services,

Tony

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-27 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:16:45 +,() Dear Mr. Services :-)  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

If you do not comprehend what is written in English there is no need to
apply your own special misinterpretation an be so damned rude about it.
I don't think he is being rude at all.
I assume that he's referring to my statement: Actually your statement  
doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via  
DUP/DDOWN ie you...  althought that is a little hard to understand since  
he's quoting my BTW:  line at the end.
In any case I still do not understand where I was rude... but if I were I  
apologise anyway :-)

He is imply responding to us not understanding Greek and mosspilling his
name.  I know he understands English better than we understand Greek.
Sometimes ;-) hehe
Regardless... if it were for what you mention (ie the Ffibys spelling)  
then I retract my apology ;-)
To all who remember I adopted Dilwyn's tranliteration both as a joke and  
as a statement. I could always of course (to anyone that does not like  
Welsh) respond simply in Greek heehee

I thought it was funny BTW.
I think it is too... and informative :-P
I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name.
The best one I suppose, was a letter starting
Dear Mr Services,
Now THAT is funny :-) (Look also at amended head of email;-) )

Tony
Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-27 Thread Bill Waugh
snip
I think it is too... and informative :-P
I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name.
The best one I suppose, was a letter starting
Dear Mr Services,

Now THAT is funny :-) 
even funnier if they had presumed a few Christian names - Motorway, 
Emergency, Special or perhaps Shed Erecting (;-)

All the best - Bill


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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS

2005-01-27 Thread Jeremy Taffel
Derek Stewart wrote:
Hi,
The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic 
was the
fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb 
Miracle
Hard Drive for a long time.  Maybe the command to make hard 
directories was
incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally 
work on
floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card 
appeared,
that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks.
My trump card user manual which came with my gold card (see previous 
posting) gives a TKII update record up to  V 2.13. It also has a disk 
(firmware) update record which goes to V1.21 (included RAM disk v1.03 AT 
v1.17). The manual cover the use of RAM disks and in the keyword list it 
includes DUP DDOWN, but not MK_DIR, so it seems fairly conclusive to me 
that the version of the Trump Card covered did not include either the 
keyword, or the level 2 drivers. I agree that both were available on the 
GC though.

Jeremy

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS

2005-01-27 Thread Derek Stewart
I think it was a development of the Miracle hard disk. 

Derek
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From: Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Derek Stewart wrote:
Hi,
The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic 
was the
fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb 
Miracle
Hard Drive for a long time.  Maybe the command to make hard 
directories was
incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally 
work on
floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card 
appeared,
that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks.
My trump card user manual which came with my gold card (see previous 
posting) gives a TKII update record up to  V 2.13. It also has a disk 
(firmware) update record which goes to V1.21 (included RAM disk v1.03 AT 
v1.17). The manual cover the use of RAM disks and in the keyword list it 
includes DUP DDOWN, but not MK_DIR, so it seems fairly conclusive to me 
that the version of the Trump Card covered did not include either the 
keyword, or the level 2 drivers. I agree that both were available on the 
GC though.

Jeremy

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-27 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 21:47:30, Bill Waugh wrote:
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snip

 I think it is too... and informative :-P

 I won't bore you with all the various misspellings of my name.

 The best one I suppose, was a letter starting

 Dear Mr Services,
   Now THAT is funny :-)

even funnier if they had presumed a few Christian names - Motorway,
Emergency, Special or perhaps Shed Erecting (;-)
I have one more now - seven in total.

I am even thinking of extending my office (shed) to make a print room.

Tony
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[ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-26 Thread Rich Mellor
Just had a look at this om Qemulator which does support level 2 drivers.
The Toolkit 2 file supplied on the emulators CD has to be loaded in with  
LRESPR - it is probably the last version which QJump released in this form  
as it lacks the TK2_EXT command.
No idea where the version number is stored in this file to check on the  
version.

However, it does not support Level 2 drivers - DIR does not show which  
files are directories, nor does it contain the MAKE_DIR command (for  
example), although it does contain the DDOWN and DUP which were always  
specified in the Toolkit 2 documentation.

MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first  
appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card.  I therefore  
doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right  
code.

I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but  
again this cannot understand level 2 directories

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-26 Thread David Tubbs
At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote:
MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first
appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card.  I therefore
doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right
code.
I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but
again this cannot understand level 2 directories
--
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It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples.
DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed 
for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command.

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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers

2005-01-26 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:36 +,() David Tubbs  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:

At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote:
MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first
appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card.  I  
therefore
doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right
code.

I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but
again this cannot understand level 2 directories
--
Rich Mellor
It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples.
DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed  
for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command.
DUP and DDOWN is to navigate directories not MDVs ie if the MDV device has  
subdirectories it can navigate them as well. Actually your statement  
doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via  
DUP/DDOWN ie you are on MDV1 and DUP will take you to MDV2 (which is not  
what happens anyway).
MAKE_DIR applies to whichever device has Level 2 drivers. Floppies do for  
example and the RomDISQ does as TT's RAM disk... (so it is not only HDDs  
as you wrongly assume)

BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P
Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Level 2 Drivers and BBS

2005-01-26 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi,
The MAKE_DIR command first appeared for the Miracle Hard drive, whic was the
fisrt stable hard drive system for the QL, as I ran a BBS on a 40Mb Miracle
Hard Drive for a long time.  Maybe the command to make hard directories was
incorporated in the Trump card Toolkit 2 rom, but it did notreally work on
floppy drives... well the one I had. It was not till the Gold Card appeared,
that I had a hard directory system on floppy disks.
This seems a long time ago, running a BBS on on 768K Trump card with 40Mb
hard drive, Qconnect, Amstrad SM2400 modem and Qbox BBS software.  Apart
from the over run problems in the Qconnect, it all seemd to work... then
Pbox, Qubide, Hermes and USR Courier modem made the system so much faster.
I still ike the idea of a BBS system, but I think maybe an Internet BBS
would be a good idea. Do you think it would be worth the effort translating
the BBS system to an Internet web site.
Derek
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??? Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:00:36 +,?(?) David Tubbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ??/wrote:
At 16:48 26/01/2005 +, you wrote:
MAKE_DIR was introduced not in a Toolkit 2 version (IIRC), but first
appeared in the plug in replacement chip for the Trump Card.  I
therefore
doubt that there is a Toolkit 2 image anywhere which contains the right
code.
I do have a copy of v2.12 ROM file which can be used with emulators, but
again this cannot understand level 2 directories
--
Rich Mellor
It occurs to me you are looking for oranges in a bag of apples.
DUP +DDOWN (TKII) were for navigating mdv's, I imagine MAK_DIR is needed
for HDD's, certainly as a parallel to the DOS command.
DUP and DDOWN is to navigate directories not MDVs ie if the MDV device has
subdirectories it can navigate them as well. Actually your statement
doesn't even make sense (as it would if you were to change drives via
DUP/DDOWN ie you are on MDV1 and DUP will take you to MDV2 (which is not
what happens anyway).
MAKE_DIR applies to whichever device has Level 2 drivers. Floppies do for
example and the RomDISQ does as TT's RAM disk... (so it is not only HDDs
as you wrongly assume)
BTW after a small illness I am back (and back from Greece as well) :-P
Ffibys
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