Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi Rich,

I have 2 Q60s that will start up with SMSQ/E configured for 1024x512 mode. 

Derek


On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:44:18 -
Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have now spoken with two people who say that they have configured SMSQ/e  
 for the Q40/Q60 to start in 1024x512 resolution with high colour drivers,  
 but it does not start up in that mode.  They have to issue a
 
 DISP_COLOUR 3,1024,512
 
 to do this after starting up.  Seems as though this is broken.
 
 Also (I have not checked this myself) but someone with SMSQ/e v3.03 for  
 the Gold Card (high colour version) has said that their boot program which  
 just has LRESPR win1_smsq_gold now cycles - in the past it would not try  
 to re-load smsq/e on top of itself.
 
 Something else to look at
 
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 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ
 
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Derek Stewart
I have been looking at putting SMSQ/E in rom. Up to v2.98p the code is romable, 
but after that I can get the rommed version of SMSQ/E 3.07 to load. 

The rom initialisation code looks OK, but maybe something else is affecting the 
rom loading routine. 

The major changes after 2.98p were removal of MOVEP commands and slave blocks. 
Which I think look correct as well. 

It is a puzzle, which I have spent many nights programming eproms and trying to 
get SMSQ/E 3.07 to boot without success. 

Derek
 

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:33:15 -
Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:49 +0100, Jérôme Grimbert  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Rich Mellor wrote:
  I have now spoken with two people who say that they have configured  
  SMSQ/e  for the Q40/Q60 to start in 1024x512 resolution with high  
  colour drivers,  but it does not start up in that mode.  They have to  
  issue a
 
 
  I'm using a Q40, previously with 3.01, now with 3.07 (no intermediate  
  version), homebuilt (using Qmac). (Rom still in 2.98)
  I have no trouble starting in 1024x512, once the file has been  
  configurated with menuconfig.
 
 well that's one out of 3 I guess - presume you also get the high colour  
 mode (DISP_TYPE=33).
 
  Nevertheless, I did tried to put the 3.01 on Eprom, but they never boot  
  the Q40. So, there is probably an issue and something broken somewhere.
  (And yes, I know how to program correctly the eprom, I had no trouble  
  getting, modifiying and updating the 2.98 image... )
  I have not yet tested 3.07 on eprom, but given that patch trace, I have  
  barely any hope.
 
 Yes, this is something else that apparently needs to be fixed.  Any  
 volunteers ??
 
   Also (I have not checked this myself) but someone with SMSQ/e v3.03  
  for  the Gold Card (high colour version) has said that their boot  
  program which  just has LRESPR win1_smsq_gold now cycles - in the past  
  it would not try  to re-load smsq/e on top of itself.
 
  Well, my Q40 boot file starts with something along
  100 IF VER$(1)==2.98 THEN LRESPR ...
 
  So at the second boot, there is no lrespr to do.
 
 I know that work around, but it should not ne necessary  Certainly  
 standard Gold Card smsq/e just ignores the LRESPR and goes to the next  
 line - but the high colour v3.03 doesn't.
 
 -- 
 Rich Mellor
 RWAP Services
 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ
 
 http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/
 
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:03:10 +,() Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
/wrote:

I have been looking at putting SMSQ/E in rom. Up to v2.98p the code is  
romable, but after that I can get the rommed version of SMSQ/E 3.07 to  
load.
2y99 is rommable as well (that's what I have as a startup)
The rom initialisation code looks OK, but maybe something else is  
affecting the rom loading routine.

The major changes after 2.98p were removal of MOVEP commands and slave  
blocks. Which I think look correct as well.
Not only these, other stuff were changed as well, however I too can  
confirm that versions above 3.00 (inclusive) are not rommable.
It is a puzzle, which I have spent many nights programming eproms and  
trying to get SMSQ/E 3.07 to boot without success.
The problem is in the code not the eprom burning ;-) Wolfgang is working  
on this

Phoebus
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Phoebus Dokos
 Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:44:26 +,() Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
/wrote:

Hi Rich,
I have 2 Q60s that will start up with SMSQ/E configured for 1024x512  
mode.

Derek
2.98p configured would start on 1024 x 512... however on my Q40 2y99, 3.00  
and up to 3.07 (BUT NOT 3.07) would not start if configured to 1024 x 512.  
It seems that this problem is now fixed.

Ffibys
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Jrme Grimbert
Derek Stewart wrote:
I have been looking at putting SMSQ/E in rom. Up to v2.98p the code is romable, but after that I can get the rommed version of SMSQ/E 3.07 to load. 

The rom initialisation code looks OK, but maybe something else is affecting the rom loading routine. 

The major changes after 2.98p were removal of MOVEP commands and slave blocks. Which I think look correct as well. 

It is a puzzle, which I have spent many nights programming eproms and trying to get SMSQ/E 3.07 to boot without success. 
My current guess (no verification done) is, as we do not have the source 
of 2.98, that some smart hardware initialisation might be missing.
When booting on 2.98 then lrespr 3.07, the hardware keep its set up, so 
that work.
When booting on 3.07 directly from eprom, the hardware is not set up, 
hence the failure.
Now, the only trouble is to fine that initialisation... it's only a 256K 
dessassembly of 2.98 to perform and compare with 3.07, but it's beyond 
my ability. (the hardware set up might just be a register setting, or a 
side effect instruction (like clearing/setting a flag when performing a 
SUBQ...)

I would be very glad if you can find out and solve that issue!
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Re: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2005-01-04 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 5 Jan 2005 at 8:08, Jérôme Grimbert wrote:

 I would be very glad if you can find out and solve that issue!


As soon as I find a suitable Eprom programmer I'll get to it
(what do YOU use?)


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RE: [ql-users] Problems with SMSQ/e

2004-12-23 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Rich Mellor wrote:
well that's one out of 3 I guess - presume you also get the high colour  
mode (DISP_TYPE=33).

2 out of 4 now as I have no problem with it either  am still only on 3.03 
on the Q60. Yes Disp_type returns 33, just checked.
Also it might be a legacy in the other twos boot from earlier versions of
smsq/e - I had the disp_size command in my boot to be used only
if I booted with 2.98 which was in the rom  not configurable  2.99
which was LRESPRed

Duncan Neithercut


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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:31:49 +0100, Jrme Grimbert  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rich Mellor wrote:
 I have now spoken with two people who say that they have configured  
 SMSQ/e  for the Q40/Q60 to start in 1024x512 resolution with high  
 colour drivers,  but it does not start up in that mode.  They have to  
 issue a


 I'm using a Q40, previously with 3.01, now with 3.07 (no intermediate  
 version), homebuilt (using Qmac). (Rom still in 2.98)
 I have no trouble starting in 1024x512, once the file has been  
 configurated with menuconfig.

well that's one out of 3 I guess - presume you also get the high colour  
mode (DISP_TYPE=33).

 Nevertheless, I did tried to put the 3.01 on Eprom, but they never boot  
 the Q40. So, there is probably an issue and something broken somewhere.
 (And yes, I know how to program correctly the eprom, I had no trouble  
 getting, modifiying and updating the 2.98 image... )
 I have not yet tested 3.07 on eprom, but given that patch trace, I have  
 barely any hope.

Yes, this is something else that apparently needs to be fixed.  Any  
volunteers ??

  Also (I have not checked this myself) but someone with SMSQ/e v3.03  
 for  the Gold Card (high colour version) has said that their boot  
 program which  just has LRESPR win1_smsq_gold now cycles - in the past  
 it would not try  to re-load smsq/e on top of itself.

 Well, my Q40 boot file starts with something along
 100 IF VER$(1)==2.98 THEN LRESPR ...

 So at the second boot, there is no lrespr to do.

I know that work around, but it should not ne necessary  Certainly  
standard Gold Card smsq/e just ignores the LRESPR and goes to the next  
line - but the high colour v3.03 doesn't.

-- 
Rich Mellor
RWAP Services
26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ

http://www.rwapservices.co.uk/

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